Controversial Debate: Church and Gay Musicians

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Should the church accept or reject gay musicians? This video reveals a Thought-provoking stance on this issue.
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@DESIGNS-vo1mt 4 месяца назад

As a church musician of 15 years I can say I absolutely would not be in a church band with musician who prides himself in being gay and has no desire change. I also wouldnt be in a church band, knowing most of the married guys are sleeping with other women. Also i wouldnt be a musician at a church where the pastor is lives a lifestyle I dont agree with. Im not perfect, but I do hold myself to a standard.

@slimdude2011 4 месяца назад

Every sin is in the church not just homosexuality, that most leaders don't address nor speak about on the pulpit because they may be doing it themselves behind closed doors. It's always homosexuality that's being condemned in the church, and many ministers are living secret, double lifestyles, and are engaging in homosexuality as well. So, it's not just the homosexual musicians and the choir director. It's the pastors too.

@d4rrylexmachina 4 месяца назад

its one thing for there to be secret sin, that on one knows about - God can and will deal with that. Remember the OT priests entering the HoH on a rope or the H/Spirit killing Ananias. But when we know, and excuse it (every body's doing it) we become responsible and partakers of that sin as well. When Peter realised the Saphhira was lying, it was he Peter that prounounced judgement/death upon her. It is a fearful thing to fall into the hand of God @@slimdude2011

@csharrisii325 4 месяца назад

Xactly my friend....

@GoldenGraham25 4 месяца назад

@@slimdude2011: While this is true, it still doesn’t dismiss the open sins that are permitted within a church. You will never find a perfect human but YOU will find churches that still strive to live holy from the head down to the lay members. I speak from experience.

@thomasyoung5680 4 месяца назад

Much respect these are biblical standard

@reginawoods8920 4 месяца назад

Neither is correct. All should be addressed in a congregation. There are still biblical standards. If a pastor is proven to be doing illicit things, he should be removed. The same holds true for musicians and any other leadership position who are involved in illicit activities. It does not matter if it's gambling, drunkeness, homosexuality, or sleeping with half the church. They fall under the same umbrella of sin. A little leaven leavens the whole lump....

@elijahgaskin5760 4 месяца назад

Amen!

@donherron4615 4 месяца назад

SORRY I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOUR ANSWER. BECAUSE TWO WRONGS DON"T MAKE A RIGHT. BE IT PASTOR, MUSICIANS OR MEMBERS. IT IS WRONG TO OPENLY CELEBRATE SIN...PERIOD. OTHER SEXUAL SINS OFTEN FEEL SHAME WHEN DISCOVERED, BUT NOT SO WITH GAYS. THEY LOVE TO OPENLY DISPLAY THEIR SINFUL BEHAVIOR... BUT IF ALLOWED TO LEAD THEN GAY LEADERS NEED TO KEEP THEIR SEXUALITY PRIVATE AND NOT OPENLY OBVIOUS... I CAN TELL THAT YOU ARE A GOD FEARING MAN. PLEASE RETHINK YOUR FINAL ANSWER! AMEN!!!

@JulianFernandez 4 месяца назад

"gambling, drunkeness, homosexuality" Poor you. Youre sooo lost. Have NOT a single clue what GOD is about. Dumb people.

@michaelblake7077 4 месяца назад

In life we have Laws,in games there are rules,in scriptures we have righteousness in Christ no sin should be allowed WWJD

@melliemel32 4 месяца назад

AAAAAAAAMEN!!!!!!!

@kevinalston5492 4 месяца назад

Bottom line is if a person who is in authority is openly doing their sin they should sit down and pray to God for what their doing and not do anything in church - bible speaks for itself

@kirkshirley256 4 месяца назад

God word NEVER changes it is the same yesterday today & for ever more, we all go to church 5o change not to change the word of God.

@ImEmough 3 месяца назад

A simple google search will adjust your statement. 🤦🏾‍♂️

@tblk1860 4 месяца назад

I’m out! There is no place for any sexual immorality! fornication, infidelity, and definitely not homosexuality which the Bible calls abominable! There are certainly people in the music department that struggle with their sexuality but to allow open homosexuality is an emphatic NO!

@phinestro 6 дней назад

Should also go with the musician who isn’t non affirmative who does have marital relations without being married too. And that’s more often then the folks who have same gender attraction.

@jalennelson6008 4 месяца назад

Great video. The Bible says He's coming back for a Church without spot or wrinkle. The aim should be to surrender and serve. God calls believer to be set apart and to be a light. We all struggle but that's not a license to live wrong

@charlesurdy-barnes413 4 месяца назад

Terrence your channel is already the most valuable resource for me as a musician/performer

@MrWood-qd6kr 4 месяца назад

But not as a follower of Christ?

@willsims5477 4 месяца назад

This has been going on for years!

@HisGaze 4 месяца назад

This channel is valuable to us. Please, continue posting, Brother. Shalom.

@dalemcgregor3925 4 месяца назад

Churches aren't resorts for the Holy....they are hospitals for sinners.

@DrewMelnyk1988 4 месяца назад

A lot of them are morgues

@saturdayschild8535 4 месяца назад

The sinners should not be in leadership positions if they are actively, repetitively, and intentionally sinning. The Word is clear on this.

@user-xp9ry8yh9z 3 месяца назад

I disagree with this. The fellowship of believers is for the edification and encouragement of people who share the same beliefs. When we go out and live our lives in the world, we take the spirit with us to hopefully be a light and bring others into the fellowship. I am not saying that sinners can't come to church, but they shouldn't be comfortable remaining in their sinful state week after week, year after year. At some point, they should want to change. If I visited a fellowship of Satanists, I would be uncomfortable. I don't share their beliefs so after a time, I am either going to change and accept the beliefs or move on. They aren't going to allow me to become a music leader knowing that I don't uphold their values.

@dalemcgregor3925 3 месяца назад

"When the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, "Why does your teacher eat with tax collectors and `sinners'?" On hearing this, Jesus said, "It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. But go and learn what this means: `I desire mercy, not sacrifice." Plain talk for plain folk.

@tblk1860 3 месяца назад

You can come in as a sinner but you should not STAY that way! “Go and sin no more” as Jesus said! A hospital HEALS the sick (sin sick)

@choicegospelnetwork 4 месяца назад

Greetings my beloved brother. Can I know what camera you're using please?

@nubreaks2 3 месяца назад

I remember my pastor putting a minister of music on blast from the pulpit for getting an unmarried choir member pregnant. He informed us that he fired the guy because "that type of behavior is not tolerated from church leaders in [that] church." Some churches have standards and good leadership.

@solideomusical 2 месяца назад

In fairness, did he also put the unmarried choir member 'on blast'?

@choicegospelnetwork 4 месяца назад

Greetings my beloved brother; just found your channel and subscribed,Great content. What camera are you using..clean video

@markita.hardenhome 4 месяца назад

Any person living OPENLY in sin should BE REMOVED from their position until that sin is corrected...... PERIOD! From the Pastor..... down to the lay person. We can't address what we don't know. But when it's discovered..... it needs to be dealt with swiftly. The church does NOT belong to us. It's Christ's! We represent Jesus and HIS kingdom. We will give an account to whoever we cause to stumble because of our behavior.

@analikab5631 4 месяца назад

GOD does deal with it. That's why a lot of them leave this world publicly humiliated.

@TheSubwaysurfer 4 месяца назад

I’m sorry you’re doing all this Expose stuff and I can’t help but wonder who you are fornicating with. And of course that’s none of my business and I’m not asking for names, but I find that people who like to tell all of this stuff themselves in a certain elevated position or doing the same things on the low. If you’re not doing it, I’m sorry that it seems like I’m accusing you I’m out of line but if you’re single man and not married, I gotta ask you are yo Some of it or are you pursuing that it seems to me is the only alternative for single man of God and I can tell you from personal experience. It’s one of the hardest and most fulfilling things you can do

@TheSubwaysurfer 4 месяца назад

I said in a previous post that I thankfully had the opportunity to have a pastor who owns this TRUTH. This Pastor was adamant about the worship being wholly and demanded holiness from anyone who ministered. If you weren’t living, holy, you are promptly and unceremoniously removed from your position. I saw this happen to prominent people in the church, and this pastor will never know how much that impressed me.

@CCD_106 4 месяца назад

BEST COMMENT!

@rrickarr 3 месяца назад

Yet so many of you are supporting Trump!!!!! Not gay but he has many sins including covorting with a porn star.

@dayletawesomemusic 4 месяца назад

Great content brother....keep it up

@TheSubwaysurfer 4 месяца назад

I think God that I had a Pastor, who now went to be with the Lord, who felt that the church was a place for broken people. And her door was open 24 seven for Prayer for support, moral and financial and for instruction. She was a nurturer, but more than that she was a WORSHIP ER. That’s how she categorized herself. She felt no worship was secret and that nothing should taint soil or make a mockery of that because the worship belong to God, it was something that was forHIM and to offer him something and worship in music that was tainted and compromising was a kin to offering strange fire to the Lord, which he did not accept. To her credit, I saw her sit down a lot of people until they got their lives together. In areas that they were adamant about living in. If you were having a legitimate struggle, she would excuse you from doing the worship temple rarely and check on you at work with you to get that thing settled. I taken a long time to say this because it’s so important to me is so crucial to the body. This is what should be done and I’m glad that was under ministry wear a pastor took this seriously

@MrWood-qd6kr 4 месяца назад

You do know that the Bible says that women are not Pastors right?

@tblk1860 3 месяца назад

Her door? Hum says a lot

@VileanThomas-hh5ku 2 месяца назад

NOT MALE OR FEMALE BUT ALL ONE IN YESHUA (Christ Jesus).AMEN❤❤ ❤😂

@gerroldmayfield3346 4 месяца назад

Gay musicians in church is not new. I'm 65 years old and it's pretty much been the norm for as long as I can remember.

@johnnyhall1627 4 месяца назад

I'm 46 I agree

@EudoraPrice 4 месяца назад

Some of the Greatest Gospel Songs were written by Gay Artists..I found this out after I grew up though..The Songs are still Beautiful .....Only God can change People ..

@flowmaka 4 месяца назад

Great video! I knew pastors that would sit you down if you were out of order in any capacity. If we are to make disciples then we need to teach. If we truly love like Christ, we don’t leave people where they are but show them the more excellent way. It’s not about who is doing the same thing or seemingly getting away with a sin or sins. It’s about what is the way that Christ would have us be or what would he want us to teach to his disciples. Peace and blessings!

@roderickwilliams3988 4 месяца назад

Thanks!

@tcole1261 3 месяца назад

It doesn't matter how good of a musician, preacher, etc they are, the Bible is clear on whats sin.

@bill2066 3 месяца назад

Makes me wonder about Fisher a little bit.

@dannykent6190 Месяц назад

99% of people I know are either living in sexual sin, or were until they happened to sign up for the loophole of marriage. That's not an excuse. I'm not saying it's great... but it's odd that homosexuality is the only sexual sin that anyone seems to worry about.

@bill2066 Месяц назад

@@dannykent6190 I dont. To me, its all one big Alpha bet Soup

@dannykent6190 Месяц назад

@@bill2066 if that's true, that is fantastic for you. But the fact that you mentioned the alphabet makes me think you're only looking at LGBTQ+, etc etc... that is a limited population. If you start factoring in casual heterosexual relationships, anything beyond the ordinary even within marriage (oral, etc), masturbation... the number of people who could honestly be up on that stage would dwindle to almost nothing.

@bill2066 Месяц назад

@@dannykent6190 Whoa there Cowboy! I Completely agree with you! I sense you are lookin for someone to Lock Horns with . I hope not. ..im on your side.

@lukekent9687 4 месяца назад

Zig ziglar once told a story about a man who told him 'i don't go to church because its full of hypocrites: To which zig ziglar replied 'that's ok ..we have room for one more!'

@machotkeyz8086 4 месяца назад

If you’re giving advice to musicians in general then we understand your answer should be what works from your experience. But If you’re advice is for church musicians your answer should really be from the Bible . Not what u think.

@TerenceFisher1 4 месяца назад

Hmmm, ok... So what scripture or scriptures would you recommend that I go to in the bible that directly or indirectly talks about whether we should allow gay musicians to play or lead in churches??? I'll wait...

@isaaccarter8487 4 месяца назад

I hope this helps. It helped me. I think it all starts with being able to recognize "sin" and "living in sin". Two totally different things. If you wake up today and get in your car and somebody cut you off while you're driving and you give them the finger or cuss at them, you have sinned and need to repent and get that right with God. You didn't wake up that morning planning on doing that. When you are living in homosexuality you are waking up every day and that is a part of your lifestyle. Nobody is perfect and we sin whether consciously or subconsciously every day but there is a difference between sinning and living in sin. Again, I hope this helps. For we are all sinners Saved By God's grace. God bless 🙌🏽

@TerenceFisher1 4 месяца назад

@@isaaccarter8487 I appreciate you trying to explain this concept. However, it's something I have heard before and it makes no sense. It doesn't describe any fundamental difference between sin and living in sin. Here's why... In your example, the person who cusses the person out who cuts them off in traffic has committed a sin.. Ok, but then the next day he cusses someone out at his job, and the day after that he cusses out is wife. Let's say he has this pattern for cussing people out an entire year. This means that this person is living in sin, right? Now, you have to apply this to all other things that are considered sins too. You lie all the time, you hold envy and jealousy all the time, you lust after every woman that you think is attractive all the time, etc. You are living in sin. And these are things people do every day! So you would have to say that both the gay person and the person who cusses people out in your example are living in sin. So if we are going to say that gay people are living in sin and hold them accountable, then it needs to be the exact same thing with people who commit other sins repeativinely. Gay musicians can't play in churches, then neither can people who cuss others out all the time

@machotkeyz8086 4 месяца назад

@@TerenceFisher1 1 Cor 9 is one to look at. I know it doesn’t directly say whether they should or shouldn’t be musicians but it does talk about every one of those sins you mentioned (inc the corrupt pastor you mentioned). If the whole department/s have to be stripped down then so be it. What we can’t do is say because other people are allowed to get away with their sin, then others should too. That’s very dangerous!

@isaaccarter8487 4 месяца назад

@@TerenceFisher1 Blessings brother. Your premise is absolutely correct. All people living in sin continually and recklessly with no regard should not be serving in ministry. No matter what the sin is

@jpboss8872 3 месяца назад

That Peter Poppoff story pisses me off! Because why is BET still allowing his commercials!! To the black community at that! It just makes me so angry!!😠 😠

@spirittells 3 месяца назад

Because BET was bought & sold to the white and Jewish community who knows not our culture and ways, and defiles us, by letting sin run rampant.

@CedricDvine 2 месяца назад

You're giving an answer of the public preference not God's. It shouldn't matter what many churches allow, We, as followers of Christ, should not give into ANY ways of the world as hard as it may personally be to have our own sins. Psalms 73! Don't get caught up in what someone else is seeming to get away with. Stand strong and don't slip. If you do then remember to run back and pray for strength and forgiveness and don't return.

@Newfoundspirit2-9 4 месяца назад

Yeaa speak the truth fam

@brucegolston6507 4 месяца назад

The only "sin" the church cares about these days is failure to tithe.

@Ms.Reality-uf1du 4 месяца назад

They only care about the tithe- getting that paper.

@Comma_jamaal 3 месяца назад

Truer words have never been spoken. As long as they make or get money, then they don’t care

@annarobinson4478 3 месяца назад

Wow! That’s so accurate!

@benaiahwright937 3 месяца назад

And that's not even a sin

@MrMANOFGOD11 3 месяца назад

BINGO ! WOW 👏 👌 DEAD ACCURATE

@patriciathompson1742 4 месяца назад

Gays have always been in the church this is nothing new. Frankly they make the best choir directors. I love them . Any church that says they don't belong in my opinion is wrong. They do their job and they are serious about . Just because they are Gay, does not mean they want your son or grandson

@CoversBySal 3 месяца назад

I love your TRUTH. Thank you brother.

@ht0wn1122 4 месяца назад

Sin is sin, regardless of a person's position in the church or lack thereof. God doesn't show favoritism towards anyone, and the church should follow suit. It's easy to point fingers and assign blame, but we should lovingly correct each other according to God's word (Matthew 18:15-17). The actions of one bad person shouldn't be allowed to destroy the good that's being done for God's kingdom. We should all strive to uphold God's standards, as outlined in the Bible, and deal with sinful behavior according to those guidelines. Let's not shrink away from our responsibility to do what God has called us to do regarding rebuking someone for sinful behavior.

@donnie1513 2 месяца назад

Thanks for bringing the point out about (selectively wrong) when there's other things going on in the church too. Let's be real 💯

@alphonsoheath3234 4 месяца назад

Hello Terence! I enjoy your commentaries. I understand your position of being fair, and allowing gay’s to play in the church band. However, the church is supposed to represent God, so it would seem that any person intentionally living a life that conflicts with his concepts, and precepts should not be allowed to serve in the band, or any church auxiliary.

@raymondcollins4665 4 месяца назад

It’s something I’ve experienced myself. Sin is Sin and the consequences gonna be determined by GOD! Love the post bruh!!!

@charlesurdy-barnes413 4 месяца назад

Terrence is always on point! And ,what class he has. What church person will ever admit their own faults, but use it to show the hypocrisy. It takes a lot to say, I was wrong. I have observed all this foolish hypocrisy for all my church life. Yep! You may gt a new musician, but no one is kicking their golden mouth preacher out even if they know he's sleeping with a fourth of the congregation and half the town. That is a practical reason that the titles Reverend and Father never made sense, because in essence you are saying something about these men that is not warranted. Jesus said not to call people these titles for a reason. He said what he said and meant what he said. P.S. I guess no one wants to talk about kicking out the heterosexual musician either. Well then, we are the maestros. :)

@hollingsworthjuan 4 месяца назад

You are telling the truth

@harleycharley8323 4 месяца назад

This is resource for many more people than church musicians! Good stuff for all believers

@EvelynFox-jk4gv 22 дня назад

I’m not a musician. However, I love and appreciate truth. God has called His people to be holy and acceptable!!! It is egregious and sad that we have gotten to this place. Wealth and selfishness has overcome a great number of the churches to the point where it is nearly impossible to find a good one with a good pastor. Don’t get me wrong, I am not perfect by any stretch of the imagination and it is Holiness or Nothing for me. I thank you for creating a channel that creates a space to discuss these topics. Be blessed man of God and the people of God🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽.

@YannickTMusic 4 месяца назад

Not the messy prophecy. I am so sorry you experienced that.

@93greenstrat 4 месяца назад

Wait; what!?!? You mean to tell me that the miracle water is a scam????! Aww man 😂😂😂😂😂😂.

@csharrisii325 4 месяца назад

It Must be real..... look how many people money disappeared.... like a mira- sorry, HaterAid for breakfast.

@ghostbear200123 4 месяца назад

I remember the prayer cloth, salt, and coin.😹😹😹😹😹😹😹

@billlummus6810 4 месяца назад

Prophetic Words about personnel relationships!!!! Yikes!!!

@arethamorgan6613 4 месяца назад

Had one pastor put it this way. He said, he had no problems with gay folk coming to church. They were welcome to attend the services. In order to get the word. But.....they would not be on the pulpit. That goes for the choir or playing any instruments. I respected this man, so much for taking a stance. Every other sin, has to be addressed. Except the sin of homosexuality? How is it, that this sin is EXEMPT?

@Bro-iq5po 4 месяца назад

Homosexuality exempt from scrutiny?? You can't possibly be serious?? 😂 In American churches, homosexuality is the * ONLY * sin that the church condemns by name. All other sins are tolerated and swept under the rug, as long as you know how to play church.

@Islandspice21 3 месяца назад

So, did any of the prophecies come true?

@henrycolon2200 4 месяца назад

I completely understand your points, but is very simple the word of God can’t be change or twisted to full field ourselves weakness and desires,non of those called pastors should be doing what they do, and that will include any one that have any position in a church is very simple not only musicians or any other responsibility should be granted as a líder it didn’t matter what position is . We help through and with the word of God not by our feelings very simple. Blessings great video.

@ProcessedDigitally 3 месяца назад

he was sarcastic in saying they should be allowed. the point is if other open sins are allowed to go unchecked then what is the point of singling one out.

@babysheq 7 дней назад

I think that is world wisdom. Just because some church people allow it, doesn’t necessarily mean we should allow it for the musicians, wrong is wrong, not saying some of these pastors should still be preaching either…

@CarbideSix Месяц назад

6:29 You hit the nail right on the head. That’s another issue in some church cultures. Single men, especially new members, sometimes don’t really feel welcomed in the church because the perception is that we are either gay or something else is wrong with us, and the single women are already pre-programmed into hypergamy by the Pastor or peer pressure. Or as you said, these ladies looking to the Pastor to seek their advice and consent for them to date someone else.

@victormangum2458 4 месяца назад

I agree with video very much. I left my church because if something that was said in the pulpit.

@mtguitar5150 4 месяца назад

I'm confidently saying no, however, I do believe that if the church took all the energy it puts into lgbtiqfkw into say solving the massive inner city murder problem, we would all be a lot better off

@earlem9771 4 месяца назад

All sin is a problem

@James-hj2up 4 месяца назад

It’s not the church job to solve murders

@loaces2k6 4 месяца назад

@@James-hj2upit’s not the church job to push fraternities, medicine, blm and political ideologies but they sure do all those things.

@James-hj2up 4 месяца назад

@@loaces2k6 not the true church of Jesus Christ,

@teespirit8465 4 месяца назад

@@James-hj2up100% agreed that’s what I understand thank you Jesus

@jtmusiclessons21 4 месяца назад

so many wrong things with this video🤦🏽‍♂️

@lukecarodrums 4 месяца назад

you missed the point. he’s saying that because we ARW allowing 1,2,3 then let’s just go ahead and allow 4,5, and 6 too. because we aren’t doing anything about it regardless so who are we to “draw the line” when we are already so deep in the mess

@broco6608 2 месяца назад

@@lukecarodrums And, this is wrong just like he is.

@Pridecrucified 3 месяца назад

All sin in it’s entirety should be addressed. There are straight people, in positions within the church that are living in compromise.

@williewilliams8612 3 месяца назад

Two wrongs don't make a right.

@othnielhinckson1058 Месяц назад

The answer is always no! None of this should be allowed. Just because many churches are hypocritical does not mean we lower the absoluteness of the standard for holiness.

@kevinbannister2356 2 месяца назад

God's standards should never be compromised when It comes to being of good standing for church leaders, teachers & musicians. To do so just undermines God's very presents at the church to the point where the Holy Spirit is absent from the church & so it is just operating at a worldly level.

@whittymusic 4 месяца назад

Walking away from this channel...quite shocked

@777Brad 2 месяца назад

What you just said is that if we allow X then we should also allow G? You probably already know that that’s the wrong conclusion to come to.

@malkahbatyisrael290 2 месяца назад

The WHOLE damn church system is out of ORDER! Church, Ichabode is your name.

@bentonmckinney5454 3 месяца назад

Once in a church I grew up in a minister of music that replaced a retired minister of music was let go because the choir didn't like his music choice which were traditional hymns dating back to the reformation and Martin Luther

@elijahgaskin5760 4 месяца назад

You can never condone sin. God has told us how we ought live. You can never condone under ANY CIRCUMSTANCE REGARDLESS OF WHO IS SINNING... That goes for EVERYONE FROM THE PULPIT TO THE DOOR!

@theartistcherrypi6454 4 месяца назад

Amen!

@TheIrieman15 3 месяца назад

Being gay is not how you live it's how your brain is wired, A 5-year-old knows he/she is gay.

@chordcentral3283 2 месяца назад

They used to sit people down and sometimes silence them when I was younger. Not saying I'd want that to happen now, but that does show the difference between the times. Just imagine, about 20 years ago, people lost their minds when Carlton Pearson stated his belief change. Now, this are a lot worse, if you ask me.

@user-gh3nq1uj3u 2 месяца назад

I like how you say church people choose who's going to be right and who's going to be wrong and based all on their preferences. But what I find extremely uncanny is how this type of behaviour obtained throughout the church world. Its like studing a manual.

@CarbideSix Месяц назад

My brother in Christ, I haven’t gone to a single church where they did not have a gay person in the ministry. Everybody knew, but at the same time, they didn’t sell that person out just to appease the world. Will people have their opinions and personal interpretations about the word when it comes to the LGBTQIA+ community, of course they will. But at the same time, we are commanded by Jesus to love our neighbors as we love ourselves. Jesus said that is the most important commandment next to loving the Lord our God with our heart, mind and soul. Which means the “love the sinner, hate the sin” quote erroneous because how can one love when hate exists in their heart?

@thecapeherald 3 месяца назад

As a South African ..this one may be going over my head...BUT, is the option or idea of using the bible as a foundation of ones faith... and not the actions of man...EVER CONSIDERED

@prosperpersonelle 4 месяца назад

The wheat will grow with the tears. We can't do nothing about it

@RevDavidReyes Месяц назад

No. Just because other's do wrong does not mean we do it or accept it. Instead, we are called to expose it (Titus 1:9)

@SouthernBushmeat Месяц назад

In Isaiah 14:12-15, Lucifer says, "I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation on the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High". Some interpret this as Satan wanting to be like God

@barryfree2048 4 месяца назад

1 Thess 5:22 Abstain from all appearances of evil That one hurt I totally disagree

@ghostbear200123 4 месяца назад

Ask Pastor Gino Jennings.

@janblount1742 3 месяца назад

When you are made aware of The Truth and no longer in lack of understanding of what appears to be...expose it or you simply become a part, of the problem ... only Wanting to benefit by growing your channel as the singers and pastors you referenced to grow your numbers as they are doing.God will spue you out of His mouth

@broco6608 2 месяца назад

No one living in unrepentant and habitual sin should be in any position of authority in the church.

@griiseknoen 2 месяца назад

Branding homosexuality as a "sin" is something stone-age tribes used to do. The idea was that if you could keep gay people from having gay sex, then they would probably just be having straight sex like everybody else - meaning that there would be _more children born to the tribe._ And with the threat of war with other tribes constantly looming, strength in *numbers* was more important than anything else. However, in our modern *overpopulated* world, allowing those who are born gay to *live* as gay might actually be what saves us all from a global catastrophe. God created gay people for a reason. Respect it and respect *them.*

@solideomusical 2 месяца назад

Sodomite?

@davidjemison9480 2 месяца назад

Reject. Do not cross over the line no matter what.

@phinestro 6 дней назад

If you look at the little Richard documentary. … they actually elevated the gospel music scene in style. . .

@uzl829 2 месяца назад

“we allow this so lets allow that too” is the wrong approach bro. and i love your videos but we should talk about this personally you and I. your a cool dude and very reasonable im open to talking about this with you directly.

@jayt-mac2074 Месяц назад

Yes! Anyone practicing sin should be sat down, no matter the sin. Any preacher caught up in sexual sins, stealing or worse, is Biblically unqualified to ever be in leadership again. They're disqualified.

@nsilentnite 4 месяца назад

And here we go………..

@TheAcoustic356 Месяц назад

At what point does it stop being church and starts being a social club? I think you could qualify your statement. Not every church has strayed this much...

@lead_guitarist9489 4 месяца назад

Question: What does the bible say about this? Aren't we supposed to bring that person to a third party to admonish them ,and if they do not repent, then the body,and then remove or sit them down? If this is a chronic problem, i can see dismissal . It seems there,s a lot of unforgiveness and not love and compassion seeking reconciliation?

@NuelsangHeavens 3 месяца назад

Absolutely correct,nothing to say

@seanjustinification 2 месяца назад

Brother, I don't know if you were trying to avoid a direct response or edited this video incorrectly. But if you're trying to take a, "what's good for the goose..." position, then you're very wrong. Proverbs 14:12-16 says, "There is a way that seems right unto a man that ultimately leads to destruction". You need to tell the masses that both examples are wrong.

@MargaretFlack 3 месяца назад

This is the realest point of view I've heard on the subject. All of it is wrong period. Sin is sin. BUT if you allow any of it then why are certain things pinpointed?

@lighttajiribey4221 4 месяца назад

On another topic: Apostle Paul declared his nationality in Philippians 3:5-6 and Acts 21:39. Respectfully, Will you all address the topic of Nationality since we are not [NEGRO, BLACK, COLORED, NOR AFRICAN AMERICAN]? Millions of us did not come here on slave ships but we have been here on our land at America since time immemorial. Our land wealth is directly connected to our true identity as Moorish American Nationals. Nationality is for Moorish American Christians too. Nationality is the law and the church will only prosper by obedience to the law for the land. Will the church speak to this topic? Although I am not a member, the topic is important and relevant.

@jeffbaumet794 2 месяца назад

This is where I get off. If you are justifying one wrong activity by pointing to another wrong activity, then you’ve lost me.

@user-wc8vh1ey4g 2 месяца назад

I am so glad God is specific and unvhanging. Many have titles and positions, but what does God define as a Christian. Christians are set apart and follow the teaching, and the life he led. God is never changing. We are. As the days of Noah. I cannot allow anything because God commands, be ye holy, as I am holy. Accept Christ as Lord and Savior. It change of heart and the flesh will follow. If you love me, keep my commandments. Oray for mercy, grace and REPENT. ❤

@1thess523 4 месяца назад

I don't see gospel music as Christ centered, i see is as show at least from all the "gospel" drum videos. In all, those videos they are all focused on the musician instead of worshipping God

@rossdaboss1959 3 месяца назад

Acts 2:38 is still God's plan of salvation. One way for all people. We can't pick and choose which scriptures we like or dislike. Eternity is too long to be wrong.

@slimdude2011 4 месяца назад

Well first of all, pray and let God show you and pick your mate. The bible says - do not put confidence in man. Trust and have faith in the LORD. He knows all, and He know who's right and who's wrong for you because, He knows their heart.

@YannickTMusic 4 месяца назад

7:52 I have seen things like this in music ministry, and then religion which caused me to deconstruct from religion. I don’t hate people in religion, but I hate the double standards, especially how they treat LGBTQ people we are human, and we love God just as much 8:26

@MichaelScotto 4 месяца назад

If someone in your assembly claims to be prophesying anything, run.

@kg1148 4 месяца назад

You're quite right! Sin is Sin in whatever form!!!!

@Saved.by.Jesus. 4 месяца назад

Sin is dangerous. If you sin you will die. God is holy and righteousness. The reason why people sin is because the don’t have a prayer life. And they don’t fear God. The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom. Give no place to the Devil. Thank you Jesus for saving my life.

@user-xp9ry8yh9z 3 месяца назад

If the only musicians you have are practicing a gay lifestyle, then don't have musicians. Just clap and sing. Church isn't required to have instruments or great singers. If the pastor is practicing a life of sin, he should sit down and let God work it out! If the youth leader is practicing a life of sin, don't have a youth program. Tell the person to step down and let God work it out! We accept things because we think that we have to have certain programs or positions in a church. If I don't have money to go on a trip to Europe, then I just won't go on the trip to Europe. I will save up until I have enough. That will require some sacrifice from me to make it happen, but that's how it works.

@petermcguinness5281 4 месяца назад

Sounds like church drama... Not interested...

@vmac38 3 месяца назад

The fact the pastor is providing false prophecy is one of the main reasons for the things that occurred and not put into proper context and handled properly. Attraction is a given. People are going to be attracted to the opposite sex especially, if they are single. I can appreciate the creator of this channel being transparent and exposing himself and others wrong doing to help others understand what false church leadership looks like, the pitfalls of allowing sin to run wild and not putting biblical principles in place to correct the things that were going on.

@Ma1nguy 3 месяца назад

When they're flaming and flamboyant I can't deal with it and I'm a gay masculine acting man who has chosen celibacy because I cannot reconcile sex between men with scripture. On marriage it is One Man and One Woman and nothing in between. If it's wrong when heterosexual men go to strip bars and calling himself a Christian, then it's also wrong for gay men to be hanging around gay bars and doing gay pride day.

@theVampkingkindredk 4 месяца назад

They don't its s abomination to God Lev 18:22 amp these Churches are too soft to say it

@sells3 3 месяца назад

Saw TD Jake’s at a Suns basketball game and he didn’t look like the same man we see on TV. The energy wasn’t like what we see on TV, the vibes was off.

@eliottmorst 12 дней назад

the mentioning of other sins to explain this point is not the best strategy

@TheSubwaysurfer 4 месяца назад

The problem with this whole issue is that people aren’t even believe it the redemptive life transforming power of the gospel anymore. To put it simply the Bible says if any man be in Christ he is a NEW creation The OLD has passed away the new has come. Back in the day, and thank God, even now you find people who were so out in the world that you thought no way he could they come back, and these people end up fired brands for God with the nature and personality completely changed. When you become regenerated, your desires are supposed to change your thought process is supposed to change your behavior is supposed to Change gospel is untrue or someway. The person is not yielding there can’t be any other..answer

@bxrokk 4 месяца назад

Are you saying a homosexual can become a heterosexual through the life transforming power of the gospel? If so, this line of thinking helps facilitate deception that can ruin lives and leave trails of pain (down low men in relationships with women). I know church folks like to perform for each other and "look" holy by any means. But if you're gay, you're gay. There's no praying it away. Suppressing it, ignoring it, and not acting on it does not make a gay person straight. The desire and attraction to the same sex will always be there.

@stevefeatherston4977 4 месяца назад

None of it happens in the churches I am personally familar with …. Any questions about “gay” behavior should be addressed by what is written in the Bible. And that is VERY clear.

@danielderocher4769 2 месяца назад

We are all accountable to the Lord. It doesn’t matter who you are or what your position is. That’s why Moses wasn’t able to go into the promised land. misrepresenting the Lord is not a good thing to be Doing. You will be held to a greater amount, because you are supposed to be a leader, even a musician