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There are unfortunately many cults today masquerading as churches. It can be difficult to be able to discern the difference, especially if you have grown up in it or if you are in a vulnerable situation in life (ex. death in the family, traumatic experience, etc.). If you find a lot of similarities between your church and the signs in this video, consider reaching out to local law enforcement if you feel unsafe leaving. As always, comment below if you have any further questions.

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@ianfg8082
@ianfg8082 3 года назад
12. They make unreasonable demands on your time. 13. Isolate you from your family.
@w.h.1208
@w.h.1208 3 года назад
They tried that and I said F-U!!! (By action withholding choice words)
@rayramirez5799
@rayramirez5799 2 года назад
The one I went to wanted to have you assist every day of the week. This is a strong controlling technique because listening so much to a doctrine will make you brainwashed and accept this as your new reality. Then if you don't go as much as recommended they start to make commands from the pulpit about people not giving the first place to God and people worshiping their family or the tv. Everything is a guild trip and manipulative.
@unapologeticella4540
@unapologeticella4540 Год назад
I needed this I'm at a women's refuge in Florida and the time demands are insain
@diegovilla3879
@diegovilla3879 11 месяцев назад
In a way they did tell me what if it’s my mom’s birthday or something like that and there was church who will I pick and stuff like that im still going to church but then again I feel like I can convince them that they’re family is important a lot
@mamabaraka2023
@mamabaraka2023 10 месяцев назад
Waoo learning alot from you little little girl
@AntiMasonic93
@AntiMasonic93 3 года назад
One time I questioned a church leader about certain things he was doing in the church. I swear this guy got so mad. He wanted to fight me. I didn't know religious leaders could get so angry.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
that's awful. It is concerning how many church leaders that use religion to mask their violence
@Venus.Y
@Venus.Y 2 года назад
They aren't religious just using religion for their benefit
@marysutton434
@marysutton434 2 года назад
@@Venus.Y right.
@kasparovthegodofwar
@kasparovthegodofwar 2 года назад
That's calLed intimidation A method to punish you for questioning his authority And it works
@chellerobinson5906
@chellerobinson5906 Год назад
SMH
@mammabear4334
@mammabear4334 3 года назад
The false doctrine of tithing is a big one, many are now waking up to this deception. Thanks for the video, God Bless 💕
@newtoatheism5968
@newtoatheism5968 3 года назад
Some churches even own houses and schools that waves major red flags to me
@kaytiedidd1780
@kaytiedidd1780 3 года назад
Pastors use Luke to enforce guilt for not tithing. Jesus was telling the Pharisees that since they still lived by the law, THEY SHOULD tithe! It was a part of the law. But, as He reminded them, part of the law that carried over to Christ was, honoring mother and father, which they did NOT do. Notice His comparison of these 2. Which 2 'laws' were carried forward under Grace? Some good Bible study here. Watch out for the "Nickle and Nose Counters."
@w.h.1208
@w.h.1208 3 года назад
I just left a church that was full of contempt prior to investigation on many outside issues that are in professional hands.
@rhodiusscrolls3080
@rhodiusscrolls3080 4 месяца назад
If it takes you back to.the Old Testament and makes God respecter of race and persons dont stay with it. Beware overpersonification that sexualises God and makes Him.into an exalted Being you can intimate and imitate They leave out the mediation and reality of Jesus life and resurrection with all this...over concerned with what they only make of Jesus Cross
@user-wj3jg9sz2u
@user-wj3jg9sz2u 3 месяца назад
@@kaytiedidd1780 televangelist robert morris of gateway church in southlake, texas does that when it comes to tithing by using guilt and condemnation tellin they are robbing god
@user-qk8bn6zz3t
@user-qk8bn6zz3t 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for this, your points are both insightful & clear. I’ve been a pastor in Australia for over 15 years and regularly listen to content like this as a way to protect my own leadership and church from these destructive habits.
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 5 месяцев назад
And most of their points are fundamentally wrong that dress code was just stupid. The most famous damaging cults don't have a dress code the Manson family didn't have a dress code.
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 5 месяцев назад
She's just making up these characteristics of a quote that don't actually have anything to do with what a cult is. Christianity is unquestionably occult whether you like it or not
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 месяца назад
If you look up images of most cults, they dress very similarly to the point of having a dress code. The manson family included.
@11304800
@11304800 2 месяца назад
Man as a Pastor you can't pray .
@darkeen42
@darkeen42 2 месяца назад
@@BeyondBeliefChannel actually no that's not generally true about colts and no the Manson family didn't have a uniform or anything
@deborahscholefield
@deborahscholefield Год назад
I left an apostolic cult, I was in it for 26 years everything you said 100% what I experienced. Scary and the shun you but in the same breath make you feel guilt. Only one I did not experience was sex one.
@harrywright799
@harrywright799 Год назад
Joined one church and weird things started happening. A guy started appearing everywhere I went - which eventually turned to threats from him. Hints were made towards me during sermons to donate large sums of money. I got kicked out of course with no information. Once I had spent half a year settling in I was being forced to dramatically change my behaviours. Never be afraid to just move on. There's the sunk time cost but a real church will accept you with open arms.
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
which tells me you are an independent thinker. good for you!!
@estherfu6288
@estherfu6288 9 месяцев назад
💯 someone who understands what a real church looks like
@Fashn4LaDieS
@Fashn4LaDieS 7 месяцев назад
Sounds like Jehova's Witness. They follow their members, spying on them, to make sure they don't attend any other church, for any reason, & they go after you for donations, & disfellowship/ex-communicate, with no notice, either. Every 10 years, 10k of them leave that "church."
@ibelieve98
@ibelieve98 Месяц назад
Was it a Pentecostal church by chance
@matta.5363
@matta.5363 Год назад
Olivia, thank you, thankyou for this video! Very clear presentation of how the cults operate. I'm 68, and I remember when the cults first came on the scene back in the 60's and 70's. Now, it seems that so many cults, especially the heretical, legalist-fundamentalist ones, have gone mainstream and are spreading like fungus across America. One of my sons has fallen in with a small fundamentalist group that is run by an ex-con in the Greenville area of South Carolina. The leader is using most of the tactics you cover in this video. My son's mother and I are very sad that he has broken off all communication with us and his siblings. He now believes us to be evil, and even barred us from attending his recent wedding by hiring an off-duty cop who told us we had to leave. Olivia, please, please do a video exclusively on the threat of the fundamentalist cults. This is very important because they have learned how to present themselves as a Biblical-based church, which THEY ARE DEFINATLY NOT!
@jerrystahl8618
@jerrystahl8618 5 месяцев назад
Greenville Ohio...church of god restoration.. Apostate cult straight from he'll.. .
@joenelson5819
@joenelson5819 2 года назад
I was raised in the Mormon cult. Jesus saved me🙏❤️
@Jesusisimaginary
@Jesusisimaginary Год назад
That's like not believing in Superman but believing in Spiderman
@noahmorgan535
@noahmorgan535 Год назад
Do you have a particular denomination
@Nick-su5li
@Nick-su5li 10 месяцев назад
Thank God! God bless you!
@RealLadyG
@RealLadyG 9 месяцев назад
@joenelson Liar, Liar, Liar and don’t get it out of order. Thou shall not bear false witness. What is your reward for the lies you tell? This video just highlights some examples of a real cult, which none it matches what we believe which is in The Church of Jesus Christ and we follow him as Christians.
@InResponseOutreach
@InResponseOutreach 9 месяцев назад
Now you're in a Christian one Jesus was a person who lived a long time ago he was a teacher and he can't save you he asked us to not worship him but God alone but I'm glad you're on the right path and hope you continue to qestion things
@AmitGupta-il6lb
@AmitGupta-il6lb 5 месяцев назад
I joined a Pentecostal church a few months back. The church members consistently forced me to abandon my close family and friends as according to them, Christians need to shut relationships with non Christians. There was a constant pressure on me to do what they wanted and they kept pressing me to attend church services regularly even though they knew that i was so busy with work. I left the church and blocked them all.
@1MNUTZ
@1MNUTZ 5 месяцев назад
They did that to me too
@AmitGupta-il6lb
@AmitGupta-il6lb 3 месяца назад
@@1MNUTZ that's really sad. I actually found one nice Pentecostal church with no extreme beliefs. They're nice and tolerant towards others. I Think I'll go to that church instead.
@1MNUTZ
@1MNUTZ 3 месяца назад
@@AmitGupta-il6lb i would be careful pentecostals all have extreme beliefs often times they love bomb you to get you in the door and join the cult. Of course I dont know of any pentecostals that dont demand separation from the world. The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
@1MNUTZ
@1MNUTZ 3 месяца назад
@@AmitGupta-il6lb The church I went to claimed they could heal me with laying of the hands speaking in tongues whispering and blowing wind in my ear putting oil on my head. Anytime I questioned them or why nothing was happening and I was getting worst they would say "the enemy was using me" "the enemy doesn't want you to get the holy spirit" get up on the pulpit and scream out to Jesus then go jump up and down and run in circles. The longer I stayed the more brainwashed and insane I got.
@willz6997
@willz6997 Месяц назад
Christian’s shunning away from non Christians is so blatantly unbiblical. Was it not Jesus who dined with tax collectors and prostitutes lol
@jewel643
@jewel643 3 года назад
Also, if the pastor or a small group of close leaders are the only ones who can hear from God that can be a sign. There was a “pastor” at a church we attended who would manipulate the people into believing him (over other people in the church) by saying God told him face to face. Or that Enoch told him “face to face”.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
that's awful :( we have to be vigilant for people like this
@dejacreacts4964
@dejacreacts4964 3 года назад
A self proclaimed apostle name David E Taylor tells his followers he’s seen Jesus face to face
@jewel643
@jewel643 3 года назад
@@dejacreacts4964 One day he will be before the Lord, face to face. I pray that he repents before that day. In the meantime, those of us who see it need to address it, to warn others. 👍🏼🙏🏻
@Venus.Y
@Venus.Y 2 года назад
Oh new creation does that
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev
@ShailendraSINGH-jk2ev 5 месяцев назад
U FAKE GOD@@jewel643
@nancia24
@nancia24 Год назад
I left the church of Jeovah Witness 18 years old the year 2023 January 7 officially an Exjw and I'm relief I did but sometimes it's hard 😊🥺💕🙏🏽
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
my grandaughter was in 10th grade and she met a jw in school. he was a really nice guy...(NOT) and swept her off her feet. when she told me about him and he wanted to take her to church i sat her down got on the internet and educated her on how cults lure you in. she kept telling me that she liked him but she wasn't interested in religion. i knew who they were back when they rode bicycles up to your house with their white shirts, black ties and pants and tried to hand you their newsletter 'the watchtower'. they would knock on the door and they would ask...'are you a christian'? my mother had already trained us on how to answer that question... 'NO, we are Atheist'! ... . they couldn't get back on their bikes fast enough. it would scare them off, every time! my grandaughter went to their saturday service with him but she told him she liked him but she didn't want to go to any church. they had a relationship for over a year and she kept putting him off until he confronted her and told her she would have to be a member of his church if they were going to be together. that conversation 'nipped it in the bud'. she told him she was not going to be pressured into something she didn't believe in... thank gosh, that happened. to help her get through it i would take her to volunteer at the local food bank and homeless shelter, the community garden and she found her purpose by helping others. you don't have to go to a church to do good. i believe jesus wants us all to be independent thinkers and show love & charity to others. churches are supposed to GUIDE you...not brainwash or control you. now we watch documentary's together about religious cults, political dictators like hitler & mussolini, kim jung un and many other fascists dictators. that is much more fascinating & educational than giving your life over to a con artist and being owned & manipulated...by a grifter...
@pollyandrade2125
@pollyandrade2125 Год назад
You're very easy to listen to. You explain things well. Thank you🥰
@bonniejohnson760
@bonniejohnson760 3 года назад
You are spot on with tell tail signs of cults. Thank u for educating us on cults and cult behaviors.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
it's my pleasure! :)
@YingYing-pj2pe
@YingYing-pj2pe Год назад
God Bless you, thanks
@decathlonevent
@decathlonevent Год назад
@@BeyondBeliefChannel Hi Olivia (?) My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far. What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament. Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders. Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day. If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism" Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh. @BeyondBeliefChannel Hi Olivia (?) My personal advice for anyone: leave Christianity altogether. You won't have to decipher whether there is differences between Church + cults. Different if one examines the above out of interest, which is different by far. What many believers in Jesus don't realise is that Christianity is a cult, and a counterfeit to the new testament, as predicted by the writers of the letters contained in the new testament. Christianity is a cult ranging from Rome to Canterbury, to Protestantism, to even a small house group with a leader or leaders. Whenever there is a pastor or priest over the congregation, it has usurped the high priesthood of Jesus Christ, also his pastorship ( Psalm 23). To say Christianity is not a cult because it does not have characteristics of a cult is misleading, as the passage in Corinthians " God is not the author of confusion" is signifying that Christianity is indeed confusion, and that Yahweh is not involved, saying that Matthew 7: 22- 23 fits Christianity for what it is, in that Yahweh will still do miracles and mighty works through this entity, but will condemn it on judgment day. If one, who allows discernment from the Holy Spirit, while employing principles of exegesis + hermeneutics, to the new testament, you'll find the new testament has no compatibility to Christianity, nor "Messianic Judaism" Christianity is now, what Yahweh condemned in the old testament syncretism of paganism ( sun worship,etc) to the faith of Yahweh.
@decathlonevent
@decathlonevent Год назад
@@BeyondBeliefChannel Hi, Sorry, I must of duplicated my message. Apologise.
@chiquitac.4222
@chiquitac.4222 Год назад
Thank you for sharing this video message. This was a shared video by another for me to watch. Enjoy your day and weekend.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel Год назад
that's really cool that people are sharing my videos with each other I'm glad they have been useful
@Resoundinglyavergage
@Resoundinglyavergage 6 месяцев назад
This was brilliantly said, thank you for sharing your understandings.
@mrskhan597
@mrskhan597 Год назад
This was amazing. This will help many. God bless you
@sunbaby090
@sunbaby090 3 года назад
thank you, i’m attending a church game night with a friend that i’ve kinda worried about his new change to non denomination so now i can actually know what to look for instead of panicking
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
happy to help
@EJMJensen
@EJMJensen 7 месяцев назад
Olivia, This is a really great presentation by a wise layperson. My niece is being sucked into a personality cult right now. So Thanks for posting!
@marvelprince9893
@marvelprince9893 9 месяцев назад
The Jehovah witness religion definitely fits most if not all aspects of a cult.
@Elisa-fi5dm
@Elisa-fi5dm 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for bringing clearity to what i went through ❤
@newtoatheism5968
@newtoatheism5968 3 года назад
Some churches may hope for the best for people who leave but they still talk about them
@jodeedugger9807
@jodeedugger9807 Год назад
I love your knowledge and your beautiful accent ❤️
@drazicmilosovic1065
@drazicmilosovic1065 2 года назад
You speak very well. No doubt you’re a very busy person, but I hope you find opportunities to upload more often. Im a veteran, and I hope your husband in the USMC is safe and well. I overcame cult membership in “The Potter’s House”. God bless you. Edit: I see you’re pro Kitty. Now I’m definitely subbed to your channel. Trust established!
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
thank you! I am working on a video now and plan to start uploading again! and thank you for your service.
@elizavetadolgova
@elizavetadolgova Год назад
Brave! I am listening to your video again, and feel like I have number 12 to add from my personal experience: church members don't come to your home and don't knock on your door when they don't even know who you are. I don't like when strangers ask me about Jesus in the elevator/on the street or knock on the door of my home to give me an invitation for their events/concerts.
@georgenayagam2520
@georgenayagam2520 3 года назад
That's an eye opener.. thank you
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
happy to help God bless
@KS-lu8nm
@KS-lu8nm 4 дня назад
Awesome Teaching!!
@dgh5223
@dgh5223 2 года назад
Pastors want people to think it’s God’s church but the pastor and his wife has control over everything. Long time members has no say so in anything. My pastor and wife this way. During his preaching, he talks about him and his family. Just last Wednesday, pastor told congregation how they need to give more money because the church account isn’t to the level he wants it to be. He also said we’re going to hell if we don’t tithe. 😱 🔥🔥
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
dg...RUN, don't walk, away! sounds like it's like a PTL type church...
@GraceNathanael-xo2bh
@GraceNathanael-xo2bh 7 месяцев назад
Manipulation and control is a major sign!!!
@CalledUntoHoliness
@CalledUntoHoliness 9 месяцев назад
God has gifted you with great discernment. To Christ be the glory. Another point is that cults obessess about them being the truth or having the truth.
@alisha4012
@alisha4012 3 года назад
I'm actually very happy because my church is genuine
@lnaimagirlbtw5399
@lnaimagirlbtw5399 8 месяцев назад
can you give me some details? Do they make you give money? or how are they?
@sydneyholland5238
@sydneyholland5238 2 года назад
Im so glad you said that about the military. Ive been saying the for forever. My brother is a former marine too and it just gives off cult vibes big time! Thank you. God bless
@jackcarraway4707
@jackcarraway4707 2 года назад
Except the military pays you and you are free to walk away hassle free once your contract is up.
@sydneyholland5238
@sydneyholland5238 2 года назад
@@jackcarraway4707 true but at what cost? the brainwashing stays
@birddog8868
@birddog8868 2 года назад
Great video! Thank you.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
Glad you liked it!
@legendaryangel1991
@legendaryangel1991 2 года назад
I was at a church on a Sunday, the pastor from the pulpit called out someone sitting in the church pew the pastor said he was robbing God the pastor told him to leave the church cause he didn’t bring the tithes he was literally thrown out, the pastor would say that if you don’t bring your tithes you’re cursed if you don’t bring your first salary of the year as a first fruit offering you’re cursed I ran out immediately and never returned. Thousands of dollars disappear from church funds but no one dares to question the pastor! Run from these places!!
@Fashn4LaDieS
@Fashn4LaDieS 7 месяцев назад
Geeeze!
@davidhellwege9773
@davidhellwege9773 Год назад
Thank you for your intelligent observations. You are fortunate to have realized them so early in your life. From my own life experience, your words have resonance with me. I grew up in a very conservative church, and I would add two signs in addition. The first is an obsession with bigotry. That is demeaning other people and even their religion in order to validate our own beliefs. Christians recognize that no one is perfect, not even ourselves. We become willing to extend to others the grace that we have received, and find beauty in the people that God has created, even when they are different. The second is an obsession with our own emotions. That is, a focus only on the heart as the evidence of our salvation. It is possible to confuse our own emotions, especially guilt, with the Holy Spirit. Emotional experience can make us believe things that are not true. Our emotions can mislead, unless they are connected to our minds as well. The Bible calls us to love God with all of our heart, with all of our mind and with all of our soul, and our neighbor as ourselves. The Gospel is incomplete when any one of those things is missing in our lives. The Bible often talks about the evil that comes only from the heart. Whenever a religion leaves out the importance of our minds to God, then we should search for the exit
@barbarabrandon6602
@barbarabrandon6602 3 года назад
I was told that the Apostolic doctrine is the only true one and other doctrines are bad.. and when I got abused by a deacon at the church, it was swept under the rug and I was told to just stay away from him.. I'm now led to believe that it is not a church, it is a cult.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
That's awful that happened to you :( I'm so sorry
@caittrent1933
@caittrent1933 2 года назад
it is definitely a cult
@jeffreys.harris3433
@jeffreys.harris3433 Год назад
I'm Apostolic and I'm sorry you had to go through this abuse, perhaps call law enforcement and report it.. and if they the leadership swept it under the rug they will not get away with it,, But don't throw the Bible truth away acts 2:38 Hope you find another place of worship 🙏
@theteenagereformer899
@theteenagereformer899 2 года назад
The prophetic church I attended once had almost all these signs
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy
@Charlesputnam-bn9zy 3 года назад
A Church that goes overtly cultic is not as dangerous (for we know where it stands) as a Church that still claims to be Biblical but which tolerates subtle cultic tendencies with weird reinterpretations of the Scriptures. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Thank you for this exposition, Christ Walk.
@Jesusismyshepherd1207
@Jesusismyshepherd1207 2 месяца назад
Thank you for information. My family attending a apostolic pentecostal church. They believe that their pastor is the only true pastor and true prophet that God appointed in these last days. They also says, God is real in them unlike other churches and whoever stops their work will get sick (that I felt releasing curses in others who are against them). My family tries to convince me to attend their church and the first time I diagnosed cancer, my father question my faith (because I was attending a church that I know that it will help me to grow with Jesus that would not pressure me). My father said that I will not get healed if I don't regularly attend their church but I refuse to service in them and believe that God will still heal me. By God's grace, I praise Him for my weakness.
@colbindavis283
@colbindavis283 2 года назад
You made me feel alone..... but opened my eyes to important information
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
I'm so sorry you feel alone you most certainly are not many people have walked a similar path
@jessicaj2017
@jessicaj2017 Год назад
This is the best video!
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel Год назад
thank you!
@wy3662
@wy3662 Год назад
Thank you for this insightful video I attended a church which seemed very welcoming, especially for first timers However when I went on their Facebook I realised that it may be a cult from the comments left So I did more research and was shocked at the information I read. I went to a bible study and I knew that it was a red flag when one of the members asked me what my plans were that night and I said I was going to hang out with my friend and she responded that I need to stop hanging out with non Christians. The Bible study was like half an hour but literally the most uncomfortable session that I’ve ever had, they basically just gave me a verse and told me to read that aloud and immediately after finishing they were like what are your thoughts? I don’t really know how to describe what I felt, but for me it was like a teacher questioning their student - especially since I’m a new Christian. I told my friend about this and she advised me to talk to our campus ministry which I did And thankfully he knew the church and immediately confirmed that it was a cult. I just feel very fortunate that I decided to read the Facebook reviews, or otherwise I would not have known the truth It was like God sending a signal to me, I just cannot believe how close I was joining a cult This is such a long paragraph but a word of warning for university students- The members from the cult church lurk around the campus and they would approach you, asking if you’re interested in Christianity If you reply yes or don’t seem to mind, then they would try to invite you to a gathering at their place. From what I read, they start off with “love bombing”, showering you with tons of compliments inviting you to all sorts of gatherings, making you feel that you are included and have many friends However, they reveal their true colors slowly, especially when you get baptised at their church which they do very quickly
@LilyTahiti888
@LilyTahiti888 Год назад
I had quite a similar experience myself!! As a newcomer, they showered me with love bombing, gifts and kindness. Unfortunately for them I was raised already in church so know a bit about protocols and how they operate.. I went in with a open mind and was overwhelmed quite suddenly. I went to look up this place online through Facebook and found a group of ex members who escaped from this group. I took it with a grain of salt at first until I saw and heard for myself that they were indeed a cult. I walked away and was harrassed for awhile by them, saying me and my children are influenced by the devil and I will go to hell. I'm just happy to know that it isn't true at all, they just couldn't brainwash me nor did they take on account that I was already aware of their agenda nor that I had a religious upbringing. They usually target ones who were not brought up with faith and are vulnerable. I was at a vulnerable point in my life when they came in and took advantage of that but my faith never wavered and God will was for me to leave. I'm thankful that I did 100 percent.
@matta.5363
@matta.5363 Год назад
So thankful that our Heavenly Father protected you! Stay close to the Lord. He will guide you to a church that is truly following Scripture.
@wy3662
@wy3662 Год назад
@@LilyTahiti888 I’m so sorry that you had to go through that, and also thankful that God gave you the strength and confidence to not believe what they said I pray that you’ll continue to grow on your Christian path 🙏
@wy3662
@wy3662 Год назад
@@matta.5363 truly grateful that He stopped me from being involved with the cult I was already with a church, but I stopped attending because of how busy I was- which I later realised that were excuses. I went through something that was really stressful but I believe that God put it there for a reason, for me to have faith that He will take care of me no matter how rough things can get. Cause after that I decided to spend more time with the Lord and now I’ve been going to church, reading the Bible along with other fellowships with Christians and my heart has never felt that full with joy 💛 Thank you for your kind words, I will continue to walk with the Lord, and I also pray that the Lord will continue to bring you strength and comfort God bless you!
@jamesbrantley9468
@jamesbrantley9468 2 года назад
I was in all of those signs I got oust because I got saved and full of the Holy Spirit and God's grace and they seen it
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
glad you were able to get out
@CristanioPeweyyy
@CristanioPeweyyy 2 года назад
Let me guess they said it wasn't the Holy Spirit? To try use your faith against you lmao.
@heymcdonald593
@heymcdonald593 2 года назад
My daughter married into a cult. No one believes us, she cut us off completely. She was smart and outgoing now she looks dead inside, she does not look like herself. Sometimes she looks drugged. NO ONE would help us. It is a long story but we missed the red flags. I cry everyday.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
I am so sorry to hear that. My thoughts and prayers are with you both
@CristanioPeweyyy
@CristanioPeweyyy 2 года назад
Beat the cult out of her. That's your daughter lol.
@thobekilesiziba2779
@thobekilesiziba2779 2 года назад
Don't stop praying. May God strengthen you. He's able to do the impossible. Continue declaring her deliverance Isa 61
@Scarred4life420
@Scarred4life420 5 месяцев назад
You people talking about prayer sound like you are the ones in a cult.
@gaildevoe-wessman9569
@gaildevoe-wessman9569 3 года назад
I am glad you are doing this video, many years ago I belonged to a cult International Church of Christ they did many of the things you said, I did get out.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 года назад
Im not familiar with this group I'll have to look them up. Glad you got out
@baileestratton6993
@baileestratton6993 2 года назад
Me too I grew up in ICOC I left about 4 years ago
@CristanioPeweyyy
@CristanioPeweyyy 2 года назад
Lol, I'm leaving Christ Embassy after 4 weeks or so.
@asthma23dudet05
@asthma23dudet05 2 года назад
Is ICC the international version of the Mormon church?
@cedricbauman9537
@cedricbauman9537 2 года назад
@@asthma23dudet05 it's not mormon
@Apostoicmommy
@Apostoicmommy Год назад
Been in for 34 years and my husband and i and my children are still in trying to get out but it's so hard I keep thinking of them saying we will go to hell. I'm just scared 😱
@MrSinningstar
@MrSinningstar Год назад
they will say that to keep you in. don't listen to them! it's not true! look to the Bible and Bible only for truth!
@Uniq_Jer31vs33_GodHearsAndSees
Satan works through the lies they tell you. You will NOT go to Hell if you leave. You can have a relationship with the Lord Jesus still and read the Bible for yourself and ask the Holy Spirit to give you understanding. Trust Jesus to make a way and prepare to leave. May God open the door and may you be set free in the name of Jesus!
@deborahscholefield
@deborahscholefield Год назад
This happen to me if I left I was going to hell. I just got to the point where I’d rather be happy now and deal with hell later. I lost funds of 26 years completely shut the door on me. I left in 2021 and I will never go back to it again and let alone any church I’m pretty much done. Pls just leave.
@gabefields8012
@gabefields8012 5 месяцев назад
Go to Jesus and the word for your guidance, that's what I did when I left. If they are telling you membership in their fellowship is the only way to be saved they lie. Faith in Jesus Christ saves not what church you go to.please get out. When I left I did not agree to go talk to them and cut all ties. I sent letters saying goodbye after I left and called and told the pastor I was done. Those that know God and are Spirit led are His, not led by man.
@joshsmith2071
@joshsmith2071 Месяц назад
Very much needs to be said. I have experienced alot of this in real life. Its healthy to question things and think for yourself.
@PINOY489
@PINOY489 9 месяцев назад
nice one...thanks GB sis
@GlaMama1
@GlaMama1 4 месяца назад
My in-laws are the pastor and leaders of a Pentacostal church. All these things are all true and more. I'm so grateful Jesus removed us from the cult and planted us in a bible teaching church! Jesus had good plans for me and used this cult to draw me closer to His truth in Love. Thank you Jesus for your word.
@Thedoseisthepoison
@Thedoseisthepoison 4 месяца назад
My experience of being in a cult-like Pentecostal church has left me so traumatised I can’t engage in prayer, read the bible or go to church, because it just triggers so much. I wish I could have got closer to God as you did, instead of getting further away
@kwameoluwanyame7650
@kwameoluwanyame7650 2 года назад
Great video! Interesting aspect about the dress code. How may I contact you? I want to speak to you concerning a project about cultural sensitivity in the church.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
Feel free to email me it should be on my profile
@newtoatheism5968
@newtoatheism5968 3 года назад
In my church we’ve had many pastors supposedly leave
@MrsBridgette2012
@MrsBridgette2012 12 дней назад
I attended a Baptist church as an adolescent and I was told that the Bible was the only book I needed for answers to my questions about religion. The pastor was God ordained and their sermons were inspired by the Holy Spirit which is God. If I wanted to read something else besides the Bible I was to pick a book from the church library. I shouldn’t attend a church from another denomination with friends that might invite me, instead I should invite my friends to my church and lead them to Christ. If I questioned the Bible or a sermon I would be warned,”Beware questioning the word of God”. God will punish doubters and nonbelievers for all eternity. And we were shown films about what hell will be like if we don’t live a godly life. This films were about fires, screaming and suffering from sinners in that place god has prepared. Yep, nightmares for me till I quit attending their movie nights.
@mwineafrod
@mwineafrod 2 года назад
DON'T JUST LEAVE, RUNNNN!
@katietamborski1
@katietamborski1 6 месяцев назад
My sister is in a religious cult .. please pray for her.
@jeffreyzeiss1326
@jeffreyzeiss1326 Год назад
Thank you very much for this very insightful video. While I am not saying the church I currently attend is a cult I do see major changes going on but I'm uncomfortable with. Also some of the guest speakers and studies we've done are questionable. When I bring this information forward I am just dismissed. They always seem to find a way to justify it. Hey have done a study with Andy Stanley which I opposed and they've just had revival with YWAM neither of which I participated in however I was made to feel like I should have participated and gotten what I could have out of it whether it was legit or not. Any feedback from anyone would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
jeff...you already know! just by questioning those changes. if you feel in your gut that something is off, do some research about cults & different religions. i wish someone would start some group meetings that gather people together and share their particular experience with others. educating yourself will help tremendously. have you ever heard of the UNITARIAN Universalist church. its actually NOT fundamental. it's more like an educational experience about other religions. look it up. they are mainstream and not pushy...
@dopequeen7
@dopequeen7 2 года назад
I went to one not evening thinking “cult” and the first time was great and the next time starting getting weird. I started noticing how mean the pastor was. All the men dressed the same, they shamed Catholics, they were wearing evil eye bracelets and they are extremely clingy. It’s disgusting
@Darth_Vader258
@Darth_Vader258 2 года назад
As a cradle Catholic in the Philippines most of the Parish Priests I know are GOOD and Kindhearted.
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
that's good to hear...and rare...lol
@hereisayana8207
@hereisayana8207 3 месяца назад
Catholics aren't really Christian
@Thunder_Roy
@Thunder_Roy 2 года назад
You hitting these points
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
thank you!
@ddray1992
@ddray1992 3 года назад
Kids stuck under parental rule be like: my parents think I'm in a cult. But they be in a cult tho for real tho.
@Jess-kn8vl
@Jess-kn8vl 3 года назад
Or they think you are being brainwashed for seeing the truth!
@lindamariamargareta6262
@lindamariamargareta6262 3 года назад
Thank you!
@cheriecarpenter3529
@cheriecarpenter3529 9 месяцев назад
I'm so upset over what my church did to me, and I don't know how to get over it!! 💔💔😢
@skobodabaws8946
@skobodabaws8946 9 месяцев назад
tell us more
@mwendyt
@mwendyt 2 месяца назад
You need to forgive them and pray for them,we are all sinners saved by grace God will-lead you to where u need to be to receive healing and the truth❤Pray to him he loves you and wants to restore you ,what the enemy meant for evil God can turn into good that one day you will have a testimony to be able to minister-to others ❤
@josephgualda6177
@josephgualda6177 2 года назад
Praise GOD for you and thank you for the reminders. GOD bless you more and family!😊🌷❤️☝️ + They are Leaders (modern day Pharisees)who Misrepresenting our LORD Jesus Christ to the world by their teaching, conduct and lives. They served and used the name of our LORD in ther ministry but they’re cursed and unrecognized in the day of Judgment by the LORD. ... “Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.” ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭7:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬ “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.” ‭‭Acts‬ ‭20:28‬ ‭KJV‬‬
@Estee.Ar.6869
@Estee.Ar.6869 9 месяцев назад
Sounds like Jehovah's Witnesses! Thank you Beyond Belief.
@manlymemez
@manlymemez Год назад
great video
@lesliedavis4366
@lesliedavis4366 2 года назад
Elevation….. Steven Furtick is pastor worship for sure. All the one liners
@evelyndampor7177
@evelyndampor7177 3 года назад
I came from a G12 church I've experienced some of the mentioned and I left now I found a new church where I could call family but I've known they will adopt G12 too it's really bothering me.
@lindamariamargareta6262
@lindamariamargareta6262 3 года назад
What's wrong about G12 and what is the church called?
@roberthuffine4068
@roberthuffine4068 Год назад
The majority of these are warnings against Narcissistic Behaviors from both individuals and the groupthink of the Mob.
@ll5633
@ll5633 2 года назад
Actually I experienced everything mentioned above in my current "church". I am ready to leave
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
Sorry to hear that I hope you are able to find peace
@dopeboyb-dub8565
@dopeboyb-dub8565 2 года назад
Very insightful!
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
thank you!
@leejiangable
@leejiangable 2 года назад
Very helpful, i was in Shinchonji Cult for 6 months back in 2016, most of your saying are just perfect match with that cult. I would have leave a lot sonner if I saw your video then.
@mtbiker4life918
@mtbiker4life918 23 дня назад
Church should be a place where you go and be sociable to others. I look at is as a free place to go lean the art of conversation. I stay away from the gossip, or the extra programs they have like bible study. I also volunteer at a bike/ski shop because I love the sport and meet people that way aswell. I work self employed so meeting people is a challenge so I have to push myself to get out there. Churches prey on the venerable and have you confess your sins so you can be addicted to the validation. BE CAREFUL. Use church very lightly, and know that what they believe is there business. I take it very tonge and cheek.
@jessicagerou4132
@jessicagerou4132 Год назад
Ty sis!
@catoliconacido5103
@catoliconacido5103 2 года назад
Great job
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
thank you!
@gretakaveny4407
@gretakaveny4407 Год назад
I think I would walk out if they told someone to leave
@user-ot8mi6qh9d
@user-ot8mi6qh9d Месяц назад
I was attending a Korean church. We wore special slippers, taught mistrust, and were constantly pressuring me to speak in their unique type of tongues. The pastor also shamed me several times during services.
@Sotol811
@Sotol811 2 года назад
12. They are called the ICOC.
@dboy2762
@dboy2762 Год назад
I’m pretty sure I attend a cult, one example was I went to a Bible study and I told one of the leader that the way the pastor was using tongues was not doctrinal and was in fact blasphemous because they believe anyone can speak in tongues you just have to get in the spirit and start chanting random fake words and when I told them this they were so furious and I pointed back to scripture to back my claim. I still attend this “church because I want to call them out and expose their lies
@mikayln
@mikayln 10 месяцев назад
Yes!
@garywallis1040
@garywallis1040 2 года назад
This young lady has certainly done her homework. I was in a presuming cult for over 30 years .There is a lot of cultish practices in churches.
@garywallis1040
@garywallis1040 2 года назад
The UK is rapidly becoming more like the states in its culture In many ways.Not good for our Christian faith which should bo displaying the culture of the kingdom of God.We need to get back to acts of the apostles.
@meforsure5221
@meforsure5221 Год назад
This girl is wrong in many ways she used no biblical doctrine to support her views of what she was saying. And the whole hair thing she said it's a biblical teaching that man should have moderate length hair and women should have longer hair because it's there covering and glory.
@bennybaird6441
@bennybaird6441 2 месяца назад
What about victory outreach international. I saw guys taking their life just after eventually getting allowed to leave the men's home?
@catpocalypsenow8090
@catpocalypsenow8090 5 месяцев назад
1. They are named Bethel Church in Redding, CA
@newtoatheism5968
@newtoatheism5968 3 года назад
Open shaming is a big one in my SDA community but still love them just pointing out things one of my uncles was actually told to leave at least that was what I heard pluss we had a different pastor but I’m sure there will be many situations like that
@pamelav.5699
@pamelav.5699 3 года назад
Hi, may I ask other stuff your experiencing with SDA? I’m aware of problems also, that’s been said. I’m just trying to resolve some important issues. What state are you from? If you don’t mind me asking.
@user-eg2jy2yt2f
@user-eg2jy2yt2f 2 года назад
Not all SDA tho. My SDA members doesn't do that.
@shantylovers3607
@shantylovers3607 2 года назад
If someone in church has a issue with another member matthews 18 teaches to go to them and work it out, if it don’t work then go get another member to help, if that doesn’t work then take it to the church, if they still refuse to work it then treat them as an unbeliever. You cannot hate ur brother and think you love God, if your not willing to forgive ur brother or sister or work it out then they lack love for God. We don’t jus expose ppl like that unless the person has been in constant sin then the church kicks them out and let’s the members know.
@jamiehairston8654
@jamiehairston8654 Год назад
I was raised SDA..think it borders on a cult
@CalledUntoHoliness
@CalledUntoHoliness 9 месяцев назад
SDA is a big cult.
@alexc08
@alexc08 2 года назад
H about singling out new visitors and asking invasive questions?
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
Could be, but could also just be poor social skills.
@mitchevans4597
@mitchevans4597 9 месяцев назад
I have never seen so many responses so ignorant about what a true church is. It is disappointing there is such biblical illiteracy and lack of knowledge of the Christian faith. The church is not about the pastor, nor is about the people; it is about the good news of Christ. That’s it. Nothing more, nothing less. It doesn’t even have to be a building. Worship is about God. Everything we do as the church is about God. Leave the opinions outside. As long as we concentrate on God in Christ not the pastor, not the people but God, the church cannot become a cult. Remember, Christ is the center and head of the Church!
@simplysarahhere
@simplysarahhere Год назад
I've been to several churches. The one my father grew up in and made me grow up is is definitely culty. They don't want you to wear makeup, jewelry, pants, or nail polish. Dresses or skirts must be worn passed the knees, no cutting your hair. Hair must be worn long and up. No music or TV or electronics. No tattoos or piercings. I have broken every rule. The one I went to with my mother was culty because they gossip and discuss everything you do to everyone. You are practically shunned once you do something they don't like. I was told I was wrong for being friends with gay people and I'd go to hell for being their friend as well as telling them to live their truth. I have seen and heard them talk politics in the church and saying something as disgusting as "Obama is the black devil!" "Trump was sent from God to be our savior!" As well as other things. I've recently come to the conclusion that religion itself is a cult. Most religions say the man is in charge and the woman must do what he says and cook and clean and take care of the children. Women are always told what to do,how to dress, how to act, ect ect. Religions often say other religions aren't valid. Most people are prejudice to people of color, lgbtqia people, and anything that isn't their norms. Yep, religion is a cult.
@BroBruhBruv
@BroBruhBruv Год назад
Sounds like you were explaining the Apostolic church I grew up in. I just finished this video and I’m 11 for 11 lol. I left 12 years ago when I was 18 and it still affects my daily life. I hope this video helps someone! It definitely confirmed what I knew, it’s good to hear it come from someone else though!
@josephmokoena226
@josephmokoena226 Год назад
It is the same like the one I was in. We were not allowed to visit other churches, not allowed to listen to other pastors, not allowed to discuss about football clubs even asking if you don't understand, they said you mustn't want knowledge of some unusual things.
@matta.5363
@matta.5363 Год назад
Sarah, please remember that there are many Bible based churches that don't do the thing you were subjected to. Just because a group pretends to be Christian, doesn't mean they are following the Bible. Scripture tells us that Satan disguises himself as an "angel of light" ( 2 Corinthians 11:14).
@donnadayle3762
@donnadayle3762 Год назад
i agree with 'every thing' you are saying. i hope your story reaches many people. jesus isn't a bigot or a racist. true christians don't hate people...or judge them...
@Fashn4LaDieS
@Fashn4LaDieS 7 месяцев назад
The difference between a cult, & a religion, is whether they stalk you, if you want to leave, like Scientologists do. Anything that promotes socialism/communism, is a cult, & is of the devil, because it destroys your constitutional freedom, to make your own choices, including whether to, or how you worship. Trump was sent to save our constitution, so the gospel can be freely taught, until Christ returns, & to make Jerusalem the capitol of Israel.
@GraceNathanael-xo2bh
@GraceNathanael-xo2bh 7 месяцев назад
Welldone
@shantylovers3607
@shantylovers3607 2 года назад
What would have been best is to also provide scriptures to back up things. It’s always more effective when the scripture itself speaks and cuts the heart of people.
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
The Bible does not really discuss the framework of cults that I have seen
@jimmyjamb4911
@jimmyjamb4911 6 месяцев назад
I have a similar spirit, in the church I go to. Some months ago I found myself in Romans 14 and currently, I find myself in Colossians 2. I feel that if a Christian doesn’t follow Paul’s advice here, in these two books, then they have a big problem and could very easily get tangled up in the, (ways of the world).
@emsdiy6857
@emsdiy6857 2 года назад
Thank you for the video we really need to make more videos without saying the Pacific Cults name because some will not watch shows if their cult is being portrayed negatively I very much appreciate the video thank you
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
thank you I agree! it is important to teach people to look for signs and think critically themselves instead of telling them what to think about each individual group. And you are absolutely right people who are in a cult will already get defensive and be closed off to criticism if their group is name dropped.
@emsdiy6857
@emsdiy6857 2 года назад
@@BeyondBeliefChannel I'm just curious do you have any thoughts on the Hebrew Roots movement I know there's a huge Spectrum in that category of torah-observant do you have any thoughts on it are of you even heard about it I have a brother-in-law Who's involved
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
@@emsdiy6857 I have heard of it in passing and do not know enough about it to have formed a strong opinion. My impression of it (which is again just passing observations have not researched it) is that it seems kind of like Christians appropriating Jewish culture
@emsdiy6857
@emsdiy6857 2 года назад
@@BeyondBeliefChannel okay well thank you for just giving me your opinion of what you do know yeah they want to observe Torah and swim will be real extreme and some will even go to tonight Paul and after they've done that they usually deny Jesus well thank you
@Am-vo5cu
@Am-vo5cu 2 года назад
Good signs
@deborahscholefield
@deborahscholefield Год назад
It was extremely hard to leave this church… but I left thank goodness
@abuladula
@abuladula Год назад
Can't believe this video is actually useful for a lot of people, that it actually had to be a made... It begs the question is what's happening to these people that they can't differentiate these tell tell signs for themselves? Why do they give authority to pastor Tom, Dick and Harry? Very intriguing how we people can loose or intellect and trust the nature of Man.
@wy3662
@wy3662 Год назад
Since they have like the verses and seem to be sticking to the Bible, for a new Christian that have never read it before they wouldn’t know that it was just taken out of context. That was at least what happened to me They can disguise themselves very well, even better than a lot of you can think
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel Год назад
human beings are easily manipulated it is how we are wired unfortunately. Being social animals has downfalls and this is a significant one
@IFHA23
@IFHA23 2 года назад
I'm from a cult and it's sooo crazy.
@Shanaevaz
@Shanaevaz 2 года назад
Yep no lies told
@jamavestergaard6745
@jamavestergaard6745 2 года назад
What about churches that contact you on why you aren't there.I attended 1 time and then the pastor is messaging me to see what's going on or a pastor attacked from the pulpit and said he wanted to see our checkbooks to see how we were spending our money or God will take away your job if you aren't tithing and giveus a lesser paying job
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 2 года назад
All of those are definitely red flags. Some of those could be cult related but honestly it may just be an abusive guy with control issues
@skobodabaws8946
@skobodabaws8946 9 месяцев назад
that was nonsense 😳toxic
@Fashn4LaDieS
@Fashn4LaDieS 7 месяцев назад
That is really way too controlling. Thank God we don't have a paid clergy, that uses tithing to pay off the preacher. We build Temples & Chapels with it, & every 6 months the new Temples are announced where they're being built. Then when they're complete, we get to go see them.
@pamstocker4911
@pamstocker4911 2 года назад
They may have there own translation of the Bible
@RYAN20246
@RYAN20246 9 месяцев назад
Is she talking about the Baptist Church?
@batistableeds4gold
@batistableeds4gold 7 месяцев назад
@BEYOND BELIEF Is The Church of Almighty God/Eastern Lightning religion a cult?
@BeyondBeliefChannel
@BeyondBeliefChannel 3 месяца назад
I've never heard of them! I'll have to read up on them
@Ron-sv4uj
@Ron-sv4uj 8 месяцев назад
Do you believ in the power of the Holy Spirit in the Body of Christ today?
@Pipesyah89
@Pipesyah89 3 года назад
Exactly right
@ManofValor
@ManofValor Год назад
The spiritual of pride and Jezebel is strong in a cult.