Yeah, I mean, not even schools can do this. Believe it or not, a school drama club is not allowed perform for the public a copyrighted play that’s still running on Broadway. Let alone change the lyrics!! 😬
I do know that when a High school performs a Broadway show, they must purchase the rights to use it. Not only the sheet music, but also the script and the sound tracks. Our last High school play paid $600 to be able to perform a Dolly Parton play.
My school’s pat show was Percy Jackson. And yes. All rights were paid by the school. But everyone else had to pay or help to pay for other stuff like the costumes and stuff. It was an overall success, even though I was in it and had a minor role. I am more suited to minor roles.
@ashley1994 how would they not? you can literally research everything off of the internet. not to mention the drama/arts teacher/s should know this or if they don't they should research first before approving the plans of the club. never ever plagiarise another person's work, especially when it involves the academia. if you can't even be bothered to research your "planned" play then don't be in it. rehearsals alone will take a lot of time and dedication.
What's wild to me is that you can arguably use the original version as a good sermon about the perils of pride, envy, and adultery, showing how each character overcame it or fell victim to it, but they just decided stealing it and making their own version was the best choice
Well they did. pride (adding Jesus) Envy (seeing a production they could never make and stealing it) adultery (did you hear that singer ugh it did bad things to my ears)
@@barronvonschneider2834 I mean, half the Christians here think theft isn't wild, since they're so used to it apparently, so I can understand your reaction
I don't think that's what's happening. I think they made a huge mistake with the copyright issue but it's definitely not anything bigger than them changing the lyrics to suit the audience they want to reach. It's only a legal issue. If they buy the song to use then it'll be any other story about how a church changed the lyrics for their target audience which isn't a problem. The only issue is they did this illegally.
@@Royalty_girlie I think they ruined plenty by stealing a play. As a church. Stealing a play. They're ruining religion for others. And they look like frauds. Maybe that was the end goal.
@@StKissa and as a person who does theater i would like to add to your absolutely true comment by saying not only did they steal the play, it was also the fact that rights weren’t bought. theyre taking away compensation from all the people in charge off directing and producing hamilton. if middle schools can buy rights to shows, a church in texas of all places definitely could if they saved up enough money. so clearly this wasn’t all that important to them morally. which (might i add) is ironic, seeing as it’s a *church.*
IKR? The Catholic church in particular has done this for centuries. They inserted Christmas day after Yuletide to make it into Christmas Eve. They tried to get rid of the Celtic Halloween to make it into the eve of All Saints Day. Same story with Easter, the Olympics and many others
@@ianthewarriorgamer8180 no it is disgusting because Lin-Manuel worked on it for so long. literally multiple years and these people just stole it and changed a couple lyrics and did zero work
As a conservative Christian, a Hamilton fan, and someone who did theatre for years, this is the most cringe-worthy, disgusting piece of plagiarism I have ever seen, and the literal worst way to be a witness for Christ. Also their Eliza was insanely pitchy, their choreography looked like my 3-year-old niece's ballet recital, and don't get me started on the costumes. And normally I wouldn't go hard with the criticism, but again, this is a disgusting and illegal sin they've committed so they deserve every bit of it. There is not one bit of this they should be proud of.
I understand why you're angry, but I believe all of the blame should go towards the director instead of the performers. The director made the decision to illegally change the lyrics, while the performers would've just listened to them and followed along despite it being cringe-worthy. It's not the performer's fault they're being led by someone brainless enough to do this.
The fact they low key sucked is a reason to just get over it… If it was broadway actors I definitely get it but it wasn’t… So corny CALM DOWN LITTLE BB!!
@@Momo-po5tn I think it's funny because 90% of the stuff we watch on RU-vid is parody Or somebody just stopping the video every now then to make a comment LOL. Looks like they changed it enough to make it transformative to me I hope I'm not on the jury
@@MeadeSkeltonMusic Lol. Stealing is wrong but whyte xtians seems to think rules and laws don't apply to them. It's going to end badly for you, so keep it up.
As a Christian, I actually find the original much closer to a lesson about God than the reproduction. It teaches very deeply on pride, envy, lust, faith, and many other topics. Sometimes it’s not the words you say, but the words you don’t say.
“Allegedly” girl there’s a whole recorded production Edit: hello! Please stop commenting the legal reasons they have to say “allegedly.” I am fully aware of the situation, but I thought my comment was funny anyways. Thanks!
As someone who is a Christian and a Hamilton fan. I think it's wrong to steal other people work. If they have the talent to change the lyrics. Why didn't they come up with their own play?
I don't see anything wrong with this... it's just some church play, if it were some gæ thing that would be totally fine. they're not gonna call up disney and ask if they can reenact a dumb play
@@uncrustable9923 see the thing is if you want to make a production of somebody’s work (in this case a musical is someone’s legal property) you need to purchase the rights from the creator. Doing this without permission is copyright infringement.
Oh gods please no Cats was my favorite when I was little (I was obsessed with kittens and so when I saw it I was obsessed) The movie killed me. I think that’s enough terror for the Cats fans…
Man, changing lines just completely changes the play itself and makes a mockery of the work that was put in by the creators of the original work. I did theater in high school and college, and we never re-wrote any of the scripts. We also didn't put on any plays that were still on broadway. I think the most modern one we did was probably You're A Good Man Charlie Brown.
So true. They think rules don’t apply to them…don’t pay taxes, don’t follow covid lockdown rules, do whatever they want protected under the term “religion”
What Inside Edition didn't mention was that an anti-LGBTQ+ sermon was added at the end of the church's bootleg Hamilton. That's one of the reasons why it caused controversy.
I was expecting this. don’t you TOUCH Hamilton, a place where they (meaning cast, writers, culture) accept anyone LGBTQ+, any race, probably any religion…. Don’t come to a place of love and spread hate!
@@brendamercado1191 I never said that the church was outright anti-LGBTQ+. It could be. It could also not be. The point is that its "production" of Hamilton had an anti-LGBTQ+ sermon at the end.
It wasn't a sermon, it was an alter call and he called for a long list of different things the Bible that classify as sin. So they could pray. I mean... ot is a church after all. A Bible believing church. If you don't agree with the Bible that's you're choice... but remember, we ALL have reedom of religion. So if I believe the Bible when it says homosexuality is sin then it's okay.
i never realized that a play could have legal rights like a movie or show does - don't know why this never occurred to me. Thought a play was just a play
A play is just another form of entertainment. A "real-time" movie if you will. I can say I have never really thought about it either, but it does make a lot of sense.
Some of them seem like they’re in music theater and this is basically a negative mark on their resume. Being in the production of an illegal and plagiarized play, It’s a huge shame since some of them have a lot of talent. Either it’ll be really tough or basically next to impossible for them to get in any legitimate/boadway production…also ironically the pastor and church production thanked Lin and his team. “We’d like to once again thank the Hamilton team for giving us the license to perform our version of Hamilton” Isn’t that Lying and Stealing?
In the 1960s and 1970s there were church musicals sometimes inspired by “secular “ musicals, but were usually significantly more different from the original inspiration than this one. There was one called “Natural High” which was apparently inspired by “Hair”. There were others that were more original and couldn’t be traced back to another source.
@@daviddillardjohnson1095 that’s a totally different thing he’s not taking credit for the original songs he’s taking credit for his versions of the song that don’t just change a couple lyrics but make it a whole new thing. and people enjoy it and it’s also a little bit funny sometimes there’s a difference between a parody and straight up plagiarism
I remember Lin Manuel had to write Hamilton for SIX YEARS, only for them to take it away in a matter of minutes. I'm all about faith, but I hope that they did it in a correct matter. It is still in Broadway and they hadnt asked permission to anyone from the original production that can rule this as plagiarism, and changing the lyrics to top it is not a great move on their part. But I hope people wouldn't blame the actors/actresses, but only the ones who made this happen
What I find funny is that Hamilton already has Christian references. Hamilton says a part which is “I see the cross at church on the door…..and I pray….. I’ve never really done that before.” LIKE THIS WASNT NECESSARY
Never seem Hamilton so idk if there's more instances than this one, but this is not a good example lol, just referencing praying does not mean that it's a religious show, and definitely would not be good enough for these weirdos
@@sadezem991 They're weirdos because they wanted to switch up the play yeah they shouldn't have and it was wrong but they're trying to put a meaning in it it might not have went the right way but at least they were trying Doesn't mean they're weirdos.
@@AlexisGonzalez-mp3dx no it's actually very weird to steal and alter art that way. it's weird to not know that it's wrong. they clearly have a passion for it and should have just written their own.
No but fr why didnt they Just make jesus Christ superstar that musical was literally approved by the pope; or the "multicolor *i dont remember what* of jhona". Even book of mormons would have made more sense that this
@@AWlpsSHOW36 - they didn’t buy rights because it wouldn’t be given. They changed all the words to have a different meaning. Coke can’t license a drink if it just looks like coke but tastes like orange soda.
This is no different than when schools put on plays, none of those is authorized. Our school did Annie, little mermaid, and a bunch more and never got or needed permission.
I know Miranda is not worried about getting money from the church but mainly because it was just wrong what the church did. It isn’t right plain and simple. Love Hamilton 🎭♥️.
I'm sorry but.... I'm pretty sure God would not want you to steal somebody else's hard work .... Can't believe a church did something so wrong... Can't believe they've never heard of copyright infringement... That's messed up.
Who has copyrighted the rainbow Vincent… That is a natural phenomenon straight people can use it still if they wish no one owns light refractions 💀💀💀. I understand you might be homophobic, but please try to use more than 2 braincells next time Hamilton is copyrighted intellectual property. You cannot plagiarize someone else’s hard work (musical arrangements, songwriting, set and costume design, etc), add the word jesus two times, and think you’re in the clear. That is stealing, stealing is horrible, and as followers of a religion where “thou shalt not steal” is an important commandment everyone involved in that church should be ashamed of themselves.
Why do we as the Body of Christ always feel the need to try to make Jesus cool??? We take “hip” things and add a gospel twist when…He’s cool on his own. Matter of fact, this is the King of all kings. He’s royalty. It always turns out cringe-y. Let’s make our own work!!
There's a phrase in Bible were Jesus Christ said, " GIVE TO CAESAR, WHAT IS DUE TO CAESAR " it means give credit what is rightfully is due to that person! SO THE CHURCH SHOULD HAVE ASKED THE OWNER FOR HIS OR HER AUTHORIZATION FIRST.
Well if you're going to do a production of any show/musical, you not only need to pay for the use of it but you MUST get the permission by either the creator OR the publishing company if you plan on changing and doing any rewrites of the material.
Changes have to be authorized, in writing, by the playwright. The publisher or licensing company will refer any questions on changes to the playwright who may, or may not, allow them.
I’m a Christian and I love that a church wanted to do Hamilton BUT what they did illegally is not okay. I don’t know who’s idea it was but that person should’ve known better! Goodness gracious.
Copyright. Look up the definition to that word. Even praise and worship leaders can sue a church without proper permission and payment for singing their songs. The church I attend pays a yearly fee to be able to sing Contemporary Christian music. They give you an ID number and you show that on the screen in the church and online so people know that you paid for the right to use. Therefore you won't get in legal trouble. I hops this church stops this play and considers the wrong they did.
Copyright is dumb honestly. Is it about worshipping Jesus or making money off your song? Edit: I realize that of course Copyright exists to protect creators from people stealing someone else's work and making money off of it.
@@davidt01 well if your a musician then copyright isn't dumb to you. Spending countless hours, days, weeks, and months creating music or lyrics isn't easy. Especially writing, composing, and creating a Broadway musical. Copyrights is giving respect and deserved ownership over one's work. If you didn't work hard in creating it, then don't steal it. Nikola Tesla dealt with the same issues, other inventors stealing his blue prints and ideas. He would reply with saying, they stole them because they couldn't create anything of their own. It's about integrity. Jesus didn't steal! All he did was give. He had nothing but respect for those he came to serve. So we should follow those same footsteps.
"Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor." Romans 13:7 As someone who loves Jesus AND Hamilton, I think its okay for me to say this was horrible on all levels.
@@takumi2023 it's not a complete story though. This church used this play to condemn homosexuality and the preacher gave a speech after the play saying they were to burn in hell or something. Then saying they weren't homophobic that they live gay people lol so no this wasn't a whole story and only half. Lol
@@bnelso2833 well the historical Hamilton may have, but Jesus isn’t mentioned at all in the musical so I don’t think it’s still appropriate to perform in church
So I’m an atheist Canadian and a Hamilton fan, this makes me absolutely furious that they decided to go out of their way and break their own rule of don’t steal.
WOA! My Theatre arts teacher talked about this, and how he went to see it, and he said how he was watched and followed by some dude, and he got threatened that if he told the authoraties they would find him
I can’t stop laughing! They do know that Hamilton is about the history of Alexander Hamilton not Jesus, right? 😂 and none of them can sing. It’s just too funny! Oh sweet baby Texas.
It feels like this megachurch was trying to pull a Weird Al. You pick a song, change its lyrics, but this one did not get proper authorization. At least Weird Al always gets permission first if he wants to parody a song.
It's theft, plain and simple. The church doesn't have a leg to stand on. If they want to write their own play, then do it, but they can't take a Broadway musical, change a few words, and then produce a play from it. If that was the case, I can open a fast food restaurant by the name of "McDonald's" and sell whatever I want. Does the church think, just because they're a church, doesn't have to buy rights to use materials that even a play being performed at a junior high school must do?
According to the “added lines” I think they were trying to promote the notion that the founding fathers were Christians (Meanwhile, Thomas Jefferson cutting large swaths out of the New Testament to support his theory that Jesus was not divine)
@@SunRise-lr7ch see, they identified as Christians but as a Christian myself (the name is fake lol if that matters), they were not very strong in their faith given that they had little regard for large human groups in their societies, and of course the example of Thomas Jefferson I mentioned.
A lot of them weren’t or were atheist and agnostic. They would be horrified at how much Christianity has permeated into American government if they were alive today (freedom of church and state)
Remember when churches had their own ideas for plays? Man. I didn’t even know people went to church anymore…mine shut down this year after they were caught hustling the teens choir I used to be apart of.
Of course many, many millions go to Church every week in the USA. The scientific accuracy of the Bible ( round Earth and jet streams and man from and soil and much more) is very important as well.
That’s really impressive how good their production looked. I mean for a free event that’s amazing. God bless you guys for volunteering your time to share the love of Jesus and the hope we have in salvation! I hope some attendees got saved (gave their life to Jesus!)
Hamilton isn’t supposed to be about Jesus. They didn’t do some great thing. This is called plagiarism-also known as stealing-and it’s illegal. Nothing about this is “impressive”. They also lied that they *did* have permission from Lin, which was not true. Not sure if you know this but two of the 10 commandments is “Don’t Steal” and “Don’t Lie”.
Regardless of the efforts of the church forgetting about copyright purchases, we shouldn't really undermine their efforts when rehearsing their version of this production. We cant blame everyone who was involved in this (a hundred people or so) when one guy at the very top screwed up. Everyone else spent countless hours for weeks to put this show together and we should show some respect to that
How can you not know you're doing something wrong when you literally change the lyrics. Unless the director lied to them all and told them he'd gotten Miranda's permission.
For it to be considered parody you need to change it up all they did was add some jesus stuff to it and called it a day there is barely anything original, if i take a eminem song and put ham sandwich in the middle of a sentence would it be parody?
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I am Catholic, and during our school plays in Catholic school (we often did Disney movies), you had to get the rights in order for the music and access to the scripts. I’m sure that whoever owned Hamilton would have lent out the rights to the church if they were willing to pay for it.
This is no different than when schools put on plays, none of those is authorized. Our school did Annie, little mermaid, and a bunch more and never got or needed permission.
This is no different than when schools put on plays, none of those is authorized. Our school did Annie, little mermaid, and a bunch more and never got or needed permission.
no literally 😭 i saw a video of hamilton's "death monologue" from this, and when he suddenly replaced "planting seeds in a garden you'll never get to see" it just felt like a straight slap in the face. i was NOT prepared. "jesus christ, you sent for me!" LMFAOOOOO.
They’ve done worse then this for years. The stories is former members and even those still inside it can tell you would fill a 5 hour documentary. Hopefully soon. Hopefully someone will listen.
This is like that once instance where a Christian mother decided to rewrite jk rollings work of Harry Potter books and taking out all the magic keeping names changing the subject of the plots to that of Christianity kept same flow a changed words here and there. Completely ripping off the author's work so the boys could have the proper Christan harry Potter experience. I was flabbergasted.
The curious thing about HP is that, if you go by the holidays the students observe, most of them appear to be CofE. Magic is just something they can do, it's not their religion.
I grew up in a Potter's House church, which is essentially another branch in the same congregation as the Door. And can confirm, they did this type of thing ALL the time, not just with Broadway productions either. They used to put on concerts that would entirely consist of popular songs (i.e. Evanescence's "Bring Me to Life" or Carrie Underwood's "Blown Away") except they would change the lyrics to reflect God's love or some other agenda they were pushing
Ik that churches in the past have done some stuff that's was probably illegal but this is honestly one of the dumbest thing a church could do and think it would be ok by showing it to a public audience