A tip for those who are watching this for the first time. As of the most recent update Unreal Engine now supports redshift materials. Winbush did a great tutorial about it.
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Love your videos my man. Thank you for taking the time to give back to the community. Just really getting into Cinema4D and your videos are really help with me getting a lay of the land. Keep it up.
@@JonathanWinbush Hey! Thanks for the quick response. I just emailed you because I didn't want to derail your comment section. Haha. I have experience working with AfterEffects and I would say that is the extent of my 3D experience. I managed a team of graphic artist and 3D animators for several years but never got my hands dirty. Always fascinated by the amazing work they created. Now I left my company to strike out on my own and chase my dreams and I want 3D to very much be a part of it.
@@medrelins No worries man ask away. C4D is great though I'm going to be looking more into Blender as I keep seeing how powerful it is and can't beat for free either
Check my channel I do a ton of these videos but I mainly texture in Unreal so I dont really bother with doing the textures in C4D it just always seems to come out cleaner that way 🤙🏿
@@JonathanWinbush Ok! Thanks man! I work with ArchVIZ, mainly Corona Renderer! I know Unreal does not support Corona Materials but it does suport native materials...My question is whether Unreal will respect Cinema 4D's native textures and uvs positioning. In this case I intend to make images in Corona and videos in Unreal. It would be kind of weird in the video if the placement of textures were different from the imagens. I have this doubt. But anyway...tnx man!
much appreciation man, really learned it and if you can also do another video on the shaders and how to get shaders from substance or other renders to this and how to export his scene as a mp4 that would be great
Anyone having crashing issues: You need R25.120 installed on your machine, it doesn't matter if you use other versions but that is the one with the relevant cineware resource code for this to work. You also want to download the unreal plugin (from the same R25 page on the Maxon site) and that goes in your shared Unreal app folder (instructions in the zip). Then make sure you enable the Cineware plugin in Unreal and you should be good to go! Not sure why Jonathan doesn't mention these last steps (perhaps they aren't needed or weren't available at that time..) but this is how I got mine up and running. Hope this helps!
Because at the time of this tutorial 24 was the latest version available but yea when I was at Siggraph maxin did mention this as well. Rely on datasmith less these days as it's hit n miss I more use fbx instead.
@@JonathanWinbush Ah yah, makes sense :) I do hope my tone didn't come across wrong there by the way - I meant it rather 'there must be a reason it isn't mentioned here', certainly not as any sort of criticism! These awesome tutorials are guiding me through my first Unreal project and I'd be lost without, so thank you man!
@@rewwhiskas4234 nah it's all good man sometimes its tough because RU-vid doesnt always display the date so its hard to tell how old content is but yea I'm working on a new course I'm releasing here on RU-vid soon with updated workflows so should help a lot of people out 🤙🏿
@@JonathanWinbush Cool cool, i realize you have to swap out the redshift materials for standard. Thanks for the tutorial! opened up a new world of rendering!
please show how to install the Datasmith/Cineware update for UE 5.1, i followed the documentation steps but don't work :( . Thanks, your channel is the best to learn this things 🙌🙌
Hi Winbush, I have one question about quality of materials in Unreal Engine. I imported a FBX model of car in Blender, converted it to FBX and then imported that FBX into Unreal Engine 5. I also installed "Automotive Materials" free plugin for Unreal Engine 5 to assist my 'RE-Texturing' process inside Unreal Engine. However, I feel that I am not getting same quality results of my car textures as it was in Blender. To what extent my observation about this drop in texture quality is correct? Is there any way through which we could achieve almost the same quality of texture inside Unreal Engine as we do in Blender or Cinema 4d?
Winbush this one is awesome as always. I just want to know what the difference between the Unreal Engine and Unity? Can you achieve similar results with Unity?
@@JonathanWinbush Thanks Winbush. Much appreciated. Could you please give me link to some starting tutorial for my UE journey? I just watched your "The C4D To Unreal Workflow" tutorial where you did cloth simulation and was able to get even better renders than Redshift out of UE5 in just 60 secs. Frankly speaking this single factor is the biggest reason as to why I should also get into this C4D to UE5 workflow.
@Smiqlearns yup I have my free course here that can help ya get started ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-EnOMkwVYtVU.htmlsi=jN8iCe72aVNeIVVR
I did find though with two sided materials i could not activate that feature unless i clicked the check box, closed the material and then i was able to check two-sided.
Ok it's great, but How do I export from Unreal to Cinema 4D? You can select objects you want to export in unreal editor then click file and choose "export selected" and it will export FBX from Unreal. But the problem starts when you want to import this FBX back to Cinema. No matter what option you select with Up-Axis your object from unreal will be upside down , or mirrorerd or rotated to sideway. How to correctly export from Unreal to Cinema FBX ?
Just the standard materials as of now. I know Octane had an plugin for Unreal but you had to export out an ORBX file to bring into UE but I never had any luck getting it to work correctly
@@JonathanWinbush I see, thanks man for your reply. Hmmm.. maybe there is a conversion script? Or plugin that converts from Octane to Standard C4D? I could only find tuts the other way around.
@@bernhard.design I'm not sure I haven't touched Octane since v3 I had moved over to Redshift before going Unreal full time but that being said I can ask some octane buddies they may know
I'm finding this datasmith plugin to be useful for simple stuff, but it doesn't do so well on complex scenes. I work in medical animation and my scenes have lots of complex setups and hierarchies in the object manager. Most of the time it hangs up on import into unreal.
Epic Games updates Unreal at a really fast pace and Maxon doesn't update as fast so there's going to be hiccups between the 2 companies as they update their software's are different paces
Do you have any advice for making the viewport/camera function more like C4D? Maybe there's a plugin? Right now I'm suffering because the way you move around in UE is so different and so irritating (imo) coming from C4D. Particularly the way cameras rotate around their own axis rather than a point of interest. It's very slow and painful for me. I'm hoping there are options I haven't discovered, or maybe I just have to suck it up and get used to it.
Yea I understand when I first started it was kind of jarring for me as well but honestly now I preferer the way UE navigates it feels more natural to me but what I can do let me put together a tutorial together real fast that might help ya out some. It wont navigate 100% like C4D but I have some options that help.
What u mean with native materials? Standard doesnt work. All white and black in UE5. U mean physical? Would be great if there were some texture maps in your tutorial u tooked the most easiest scene ;)
@@JonathanWinbush I found out that every Material Instance has a parent called C4D.Master and wow its just wired node connected. So do I have to fix every single Material or can I select all and change the parent (for example the Megascans used parent) in once? and even then do I have to connect all the texture maps new?
If I continue editing the C4D project (that I've already placed in UE), would the updated version apply in UE? Or would I need to reload the project into UE every time?
I have a c4d project file that needs to be converted into UE5. The issue is all of the original materials are Redshift materials. I was wondering if there was anyway of quickly converting these materials to native c4d materials other than recreating all the materials?
@@JonathanWinbush Thanks for the reply, I ended up just creating new materials. One other thing I am having an issue with is that my animations are not transferring over correctly. I'm not quite sure why. The extent of the animation is an object spinning around, disappearing, and another object scaling up and rotating. But their starting positions in UE5 are in too low and their rotations are off and their movement doesn't even seem in sync with my c4d file. Any ideas?
Dear Mr Winbush ;) I´ve rigged a car in c4d r24 with the new car rig and exported as cinewave to import in ue4/5 crash over crash :/ could you please give a quicktip how to import and rig a car from c4d to unreal? that would be great. cheers!!
@@JonathanWinbush Help! I noticed in your video that when you go to import a c4d scene, .c4d files are one of the options to load. But even though I enabled the .c4d importer plugin, when I go to import a file through the datasmith plugin, it only shows .udatasmith as an option. Do I need to do anything else to get .c4d importer working so I see .c4d files? Thanks!
Hi! HELP! how do I render a camera exportioned from c4d?? I choose its animation in Movie render Queue, but the frame is rendered from a different position?????????????????????????????????????????
@Spenser Dickerson that's not true at all most of the car commercials you see on TV are done in Unreal Engine. There's is plenty of examples of it being on par with offline renders.
@Spenser Dickerson I'd check out The Mill they use it a lot in production as well as Zoic among studios I can think of off the top of my head www.themill.com/newsfeed/the-mills-filfury-directs-a-film-of-epic-proportions-for-unreal/ cgsociety.org/news/article/3105/epic-games-the-mill-and-chevrolet-unveil-real-time-film We are still in a transition stage I'm not saying drop all of your render engines and jump to UE but I know a lot of work I do for film and television we are using Unreal more and more. Ever since Ray tracing I'd put UE on par with any of the engines out there
@Spenser Dickerson Yup at the end of the day it's just another tool we have at our use. It doesn't have great modeling tools because it's mainly used as the endpoint of production so say in most instances you have modelers working in Maya, Zbrush, or Houdini and they pass their assets to the UE artist to bring it all together. Since I'm a C4D artist I stick with what I know so thats why I show how we can integrate C4D scenes into Unreal but honestly as you said each project has its own approach it needs to it so I mainly do my world building in UE then like any animations I'll bring over from C4D. In your short you want to make theres a variety of ways to approach it UE does have its own varoni fracture system and dynamics and can also do particle simulations. Most people would do the work in houdini then bring it to UE since their integration is a lot better but C4D is working on a better integration system I know.
@Spenser Dickerson ya plus everything is evolving so rapidly who know what will be out in 5 years we could be looking at a completely new software that came out of nowhere. That omniverse thing Nvidia has been developing is really interesting looking
I've noticed this still has SIGNIFICANT trouble with Alpha textures, as they do not render correctly in Unreal Engine and that while all the textures come over, not all of the materials get created. Any guidance on how to fix?
Hi Jonathan, I bought a vehicle models pack from CGTrader and the only thing I noticed that it was available in fbx, obj and unreal engine format. Problem is that all the 4 models contained in that pack are in "disassembled form". So do you have any idea how to import them in blender or c4d?
@@ashley4372 i have a map unrolling, i'll be applying a texture onto it which is the map art. I can't get the camera to work the same way. In C4D I used a rig made with nulls that then follow a target null, not sure if theres a way of setting up a similar rig in UE5
for complex camera rigs like that you want to try and bake all the frames on your camera which can be hit n miss. You can do the same thing in UE5 with its own camera I actually have a whole chapter on this coming next week in my free course in chapter 3
@WINBUSH thank you for your tutorials! When choosing the "film" template - under the "Unreal Project Browser" - a simple blank project seems to be huge in file size due to the file "Main_BuiltData.uasset" it creates inside the Content folder. It doesn't seem to be the case if you select the "Games" template. Any idea why?
Great Tutorials! Im having a critical issue in 5.3 where the datasmith/ cineware import crashes every time on import. Ive tried to trouble shoot, but its unclear what is not working. Any ideas?
Oooo yea so I'm not on a Mac at all but have heard people on Mac having issues running Unreal sometimes. Hopefully it get ironed out in unreal 5.4 which should be dropping in a few weeks here
Hi, Winbush! I can't find anywhere information on whether it is possible to update the animation when transferring from C4D to UE from datasmith. Here's a simple example. We have an animation made in C4d (keys + effectors), let's call it project_v001. We transfer everything to UE, adjust materials, light. Then the client asks to edit the animation, we go to C4d, make and save the project_v002. Is there any way to simply update the animation in the already configured UE project? Or do I have to import project_v002 into UE again, re-adjust materials, lights, etc.
The tutorial in that link should help but beware seems like Datasmith between C4D and Epic lately has been kind of broken so it's hit n miss sometimes these days. I'm building more of my project in Unreal and sending FBX from C4D I only use datasmith on rare occasions now.
So i did the classic and changed the UI to the default UE4... now i csnt get back to UE5 to match this video... trying to import c4d content into UE5??
Hey Winbush I have consistently had Unreal crash when I try to import a c4d file using Datasmith no matter what the size of the project file. What can you suggest? I can’t find much documentation.
Hey Winbush! Everytime I try importing my C4D file (or any for that matter) Unreal Engine 5 just crashes. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? I've seen many similar complaints from people too. Hope you can help! Thanks
Hey Winbush, I've got a project with some animation on c4d that i want to export to unreal engine. The project hast 126.000 Frames, and when saving it for cineware with animation cache it just hangs forever.... The project is huge on polycount and has too many frames i guess. Do you think this can be done or should i just directly animate on unreal? Thanks!
Not really you have to export from cinema as an orbx file which works but not great. Plus using Octane in Unreal kind of defeats the point since it turns it into an offline renderer and isn't real time.
@@JonathanWinbush Ugh, that’s too bad. I had tried it with Unity when it came out and had trouble, and now you’ve reminded me that it also needed an Orbx file. It was also sluggish. Maybe they’ll integrate better down the road, perhaps via Datasmith (crossed fingers).
@@YoshioArts yea I'm not to sure about Otoy I know they mentioned something about Brigade working with Unreal Engine but its been silent on what it would do. If anything since Maxon got the Megagrant last year I could see them making Redshift working with UE via Datasmith
Being a 3d Max user I feel I’ve been educated in the ways of Cinema 4d! Been working with a lot of Cinema4d Datasmith files. The guys supplying them have been blown away with what I’ve produced in UE5. My only issue is that even basic materials with diffuse material and opacity don’t seem to transfer over. Any idea what common issues might cause it? As always appreciate your wisdom 😁
That's weird those textures should go over you just have to make sure they are standard materials and not physical or 3rd party. Their documentation is dated but this should give a good run down of what comes over and what doesnt in terms on of materials docs.unrealengine.com/4.27/en-US/WorkingWithContent/Importing/Datasmith/SoftwareInteropGuides/Cinema4D/
@@jamesgoodman2931 100% This video might be helpful I show how to make neon signs using photoshop and c4d to bring into UE so seeing my alpha structure here may help ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wku7PJPCssI.html
@@JonathanWinbush I watched two versions of your tutorial video. I tried copying the Unreal 4 version of the video, not this one, but the file was not loaded the same way. If you don't mind, can I capture my problem by email?
hi, would it be possible to make an environment in unreal using megascans and the sort, then export to c4d to add and animate a character maybe interacting with the environment (picking up an object or something) and the bring it back into unreal and render? Would position data line up or would I have to re do the animation in unreal?
Why not build the scene in C4D then bring it all over to UE at once instead of going back n forth? Taking stuff out of UE doesn't work as well most of the time least not with C4D
@@JonathanWinbush the reason I want to build the scene in ue is due to megascans being free for it. I read that you could export parts of a sequence and change animations so I though this might be a good way to animate in a software im a little more comfortable with
@@JonathanWinbush if I select everything in the scene and use the fbx export in sequencer and add new models and animations using c4d would they show up in unreal or do I need to import models separately and add animations to them
