I paused at 4:49 to let you know that George Zimmerman signs autographs of Confederate flags and bags of Skittles. He isn't torn up about his actions at all
I have never met a trainer better than John! He has his soul right with Jesus, has been a tremendous example to me in opening a dialogue to my pastor! Church goers need protected in church. And, he has shown us not only WHEN to shoot, by Why and How to shoot, backed up by our laws! By seeing these videos, I have changed my whole life to one of awareness of my surroundings! My hero.
My friend and I teach concealed weapons classes, and there is usually one [person that brings up citizen's arrest. We advocate against it and tell them that it is better to be a good witness.
You two are arguing about opinions. Unless one of you are on the jury and seen all evidence which I doubt. With that said, I rather be called a coward than get into a situation that I have no business in and it potentially escalating into what did. No thanks.
@@greenlawnfarm5827 The "walking into a house under construction incident? 🙄 If I did that as a young white male, no one would care...I could say I just thought it was cool and wanted to see the progress on the construction.
One of the most intelligent remarks I have heard John make: “Maybe we should have professional jurors.” I’ve seen some pathetic jurors in my day. It’s been so bad that I sometimes internally debate as to whether I should waive a trial by jury if I should ever become a defendant in a self-defense trial. It’s a scary thought not knowing which of our “peers” might someday decide our fate after a justified use of deadly force.
Does the idea of professional jurors open up the jury pool to the risk of stagnation and corruption. I’m not saying it’s necessarily a bad idea, but I think there’s some possible cons.
Papi Maximus I don’t believe the grand jury is made of professional jurors. I could be wrong, but the grand jury as I understand it is called this because it’s composed of 23 citizens instead of 12, all pulled from the public pool as usual.
Papi Maximus A few years ago I served on a federal grand jury for several weeks in DC. With the exception of a few people, my fellow jurors were anything but “professional.” One guy even got removed because he was playing around too much. The “indict a ham sandwich” theory is real because most grand juries sign True Bills based solely on what the AUSAs (I.e., federal prosecutors) tell them. Most of the time jurors don’t get to personally hear witnesses testify; rather, the AUSA will read to the jurors the transcript of the witness’s statement to a prior panel of jurors. The group I was in got bored with this and just dozed off or read magazines while the AUSA was reading and then voted for a True Bill just to move on to the next case. It’s a broken system (in DC, anyway). And with regard to your comment about how attorneys get to “ask questions and excuse jurors,” you tell that to Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn and to his defense attorney Sydney Powell. That didn’t work out so well for Flynn.
John, you're going to have to find a way to purge these racists from your channel. I know you don't tolerate or encourage bigotry. Something about this case brings a lot of certain people's evil to light.
@@ASPextra Bravo for that. You are a champion for justice and many of us are actually learning from your content. The fools and trolls are missing an opportunity to learn.
And all the people who were trespassing at the construction site were wrong for being there. If it was your private property would you want everyone you dont know just strolling through like they belong there? Like if you leave your garage door open then anyone who wants to come see what you have in your garage they should be able to check it out?
@@Dan-cl8gh it's not trespassing because he was never told to stay off the property from the beginning. Also, even if it was illegal, that does not justify vigilante justice. Which is also illegal
@@yo-sefakimbey7009 you don't have to be told to stay off property to know you're trespassing. Fyi, I'm not justifying what those guys did to him. They were definitely in the wrong in how they handled everything.
I’m wondering what the cons of professional jurors would be? I think it’s possible that you open up the jury pool to the risk of stagnant corruption, much like you see in Congress with career politicians.
Actually I kind of get the idea. It seems that "beyond a reasonable doubt" is something a lot of citizens don't understand. Not enough to prove "maybe" someone is guilty. Too many people are getting exonerated when clearly there must have been reasonable doubt in their trial. So you take regular people, teach them the laws so they understand, and that's the jury.
Unless someone’s life is at risk just call the police and let them handle it. It’s just not worth the risk of having something going horribly wrong on both ends and you end up with your life in turmoil or killed over a non life threatening crime.🤷♂️
From other reports, Gregory McMichael, the older of the two in the video, is a retired LEO who dealt with Mr. Arbery many times in a professional capacity. It's a shame that the McMichaels had not stayed home and minded their own business and just reported suspicious activity instead, regardless of any alleged history.
They did and the police asked them to help, btw the neighborhood is their own bussiness as their neighbors asked them to keep a eye out. They did nothing wrong.
@@tzoninghard2425 call a defense team if you can rebutt any Of these facts, 3 HR of probable cause hearing June 6 GBI agent on the stand walks you through the defendants statements, videos and timeline. 11:40 Ahmaud background, his address 12:45 Travis background 13:30 Gregory background 15:20 new construction 17:35 nothing stolen 18:55 multiple neighborhood videos 19:55 timeline 28:45 Roddy blocks Ahmaud 31:00 the shooting video is longer 33:22 Roddy admitted to hitting Ahmaud 36:28 description of confrontation 37:36 Ahmaud decides to engage 39:53 gunshot wounds 45:30 chronology of chase 56:50 defendants statements 1:02:55 Travis used "f-ing n****r" 1:04:40 conspiracy & collusion 1:43:12 racist social media post 1:44:35 break in's 1:55:20 Barnhill's letter & burglary 2:10:00 Travis said he knew Ahmaud wasn't going to surrender from 30-40 yards away 2:11:00 Travis racist social media post 2:17:35 Gregory not aware of Ahmaud in house, burglary reports 2:24:30 citizens arrest 2:30:00 self defense brought up 2:31:00 Travis not clear to him if he got hit before shooting Ahmaud 2:38:50 Agent Dial covers trek thru neighborhood timeline 3:13:08 what Travis was thinking as he fired 3:15:00 when did Ahmaud grab the gun 3:20:55 Ahmaud didn't have a cellphone 3:24:20 aggravated assault basis explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-us9oSAuzHzo.html Roddy's lawyer starts at 38:10 51:38 the Hammer is discussed ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-rLKgUgtzC-U.html Zoom in and watch Travis earn one of the aggravated assault charges as he points the shotgun at Ahmaud and tells him to get on the ground. imgur.com/gallery/ge7BDGh And yeah I said "one of" June 24th A grand jury has indicted all three men accused in the death of Ahmaud Arbery, each with nine counts including murder. The Cobb County District Attorney posted on social media Wednesday the grand jury’s indictment formally charges Travis McMichael, Greg McMichael and William R. Bryan on the following counts: malice murder, felony murder (four counts), aggravated assault (two counts), false imprisonment, and criminal attempt to commit false imprisonment.
@@dereklaur2154 that's irrelevant. They did NOT have the legal justification to accost him with firearms. He was defending himself fighting for his life. These animals who attacked Arbery have already been exposed as racists by there OWN words and actions both BEFORE and AFTER the crime.
@@tzoninghard2425 you're a moron. There was no reasonable ARTICULABLE suspicion that any crime had been committed. Therefore there was no reason for these two idiots to pursue Arbery with the aid of the third stooge, Roddy. They had no legal justification to accost Arbery, but when they did; Arbery who was outnumbered three to one by two ARMED men was fighting for his life. He did nothing wrong and the animals who did this will be convicted. It is quite clear based on the EVIDENCE, that this was a hate crime.
Professional jurists is a horrible idea. The concept of a jury being of "your" peers goes right out the window. They cease being your peer the moment they get "paid" for they decision. Even if they aren't paid in money (who would do that for free for very long anyway) you still aren't achieving the spirit behind our legal system when you have career jurors. Career politicians are bad enough. Who would appoint these "jurists"? The potential for corruption would go through the roof compared to the current system.
We don’t know for a fact if they saw the other people going in and out of the house so that would be irrelevant but what we do know is that Arbery was NOT jogging but walking at the time he approached the house. He looked around then ran into the house. When another neighbor came out and saw him, he took off running (or what some people are calling “jogging”). All of this is on video
Issue causing an offense: maybe for being mouthy (Trayvon Martin) ...the people with the power on these situations often have biases that generally change the tone and behavior when dealing with people of color. Specially related to Trayvon, he had no reason to submit to G.Z. Self appointed authority. Most parent teach their kids not to engage with strangers and also teach their black sons to have dignity and that is what enraged G.Z. A young black kid that “didn’t belong” and didn’t respect his “authority”. These are the types people that want America to be Great Again which seems to be a reminiscent cry for a return to the times of Jim Crow.
A few points of contention here: (1) Arbery did not live in the neighborhood. Some reports have him living anywhere from 3 to 10 miles away. (2) Arbery was not merely "out for a jog". He was actively casing the neighborhood and there is video evidence of him in the house on several occasions. He was criminally trespassing when he stepped foot on the lot. He was feloniously burglarizing when he entered the building. (3) The younger McMicheal had a firearm stolen from his vehicle a few weeks prior. Also a few weeks prior, he observed a person matching Arbery's description coming out of the house in question. McMichael confronted the person and the person made a gesture as though he was reaching for a weapon before he ran off. (4) The older McMichael was a retired law enforcement officer. As a result, he was knowledgeable regarding citizen's arrest laws and what he could and couldn't do in the circumstance. (5) Arbery was a convicted felon who was well known to the police in the area. There is a video out there where Arbery is confronted by the police and becomes combative with the police. (6) You need to read the first DA's report on why they didn't charge the McMichaels. Very comprehensive. And finally, (7) this case got politicized because Arbery is black. If Arbery was white, everyone would have said "Well, the idiot got what he deserved" and that would have been the end of it. Ghetto lottery in play here. The politicians are playing a dangerous game here. Bending the knee to try to appease blacks in the hope that they do not riot, burn and pillage is poor public policy - but that is the sorry state of affairs today. Finally, I agree, most law abiding citizens have too much to lose in these encounters. Better to let the police handle it. But, what happens when time after time after time, you call 911 and the police can't get there in time? Or, when they do get there, they do nothing. When the law allows the criminal to push the law abiding citizen to the edge, this is what you get.
@Briteone6988 Ga Code 16-7-1 "Entering or remaining in an occupied, unoccupied, or vacant dwelling house of another or any other dwelling structure". First degree felony punishable up to 20 years, second degree felony punishable up to 5 years.
Arbery lived in the neighborhood, on the other side of the highway less then 1.2 miles. His house is up for sale on Zillow, go look it up, everything you said was a lie.
@@lkj0822g You are spot on. So far the weakest part of this case is did greg mcmichael have second hand knowledge that Arbery had entered the building with valuables (shit anything can be valuable, like the wiring, not to mention the boxes we see on the floor). Did the neighbor text Greg or did Greg something through a police scanner. if so, he could legally effect a citizens arrest. I think Greg is protecting the neighbor knowing full well it will come out in court bec when GBI agent Dial testified in court he said he had not analyzed greg's phone yet because of his rights or something to the affect. For you clowns that want to argue with a CPA, that's where you made your first mistake. Your 2nd one was not knowing GA law. See this case. DESMOND NAPOLEON DANIEL v. THE STATE where Desmond was convicted by a jury of burglary, upheld by an appeals court and upheld by the GA supreme court and DESMOND took ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOTHING.
Funny, the jury that saw the actual evidence and the best case the prosecutor could put up completely and utterly disagreed with you. If you think you're smarter than them, when you haven't been through the actual evidence, then this is not the channel for you.
Georgia Code section 16-3-21. "A person is justified in threatening or using force against another when and to the extent that he or she reasonably believes that such threat or force is necessary to defend himself or herself or a third person against such other's imminent use of unlawful force; however, except as provided in Code Section 16-3-23 , a person is justified in using force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm only if he or she reasonably believes that such force is necessary to prevent death or great bodily injury to himself or herself or a third person or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony."
This is why to not take the law in your hands! Not to act as judge, jury, and executioner! The father being an ex-cop should've known better!!!!!!!!!!!
nobody acted as judge jury and executioner, they followed him to lead the cops to him while restraining him for the police, perfectly legal in Georgia along with brandishing weapons in public, when Ahmaud attacked Travis and attempted to illegally disarm him of his weapon he became a deadly threat
@@ASPextra lol wuuuut? you willing to bet a gun on that? I'll bet you a dessert eagle Ahmaud was in the wrong and the McMIchaels were 100% in the right, legally and morally
I can understand the frustration and fear of safety when a neighborhood is feeling under siege with many burglaries. It's scary sleeping with your family in the same home that has just been burglarized. It can cause errors in judgement.
I fear Career jurists will lead to corruption, payoffs, and mafia-like activities. Many can be bought for a price - and all they need is one ‘no’ vote.
So people that are subscribers of ACTIVE SELF PROTECTION, believe that a man should have not ACTIVCELY PROTECTED himSELF from an armed aggressor. Thats a special kind of stupid
Point of interest- the same people calling for defunding of the police are the same people admonishing the Citizens Arrest. Can’t have it both ways, folks.
He wasnt unarmed once he charged and grabbed the shotgun while punching Mr. Mcmichael in the face. And he was no longer just trespassing. If anything Ahmaud threw his life away by attacking them instead of just stopping or running more and waiting for the police to show up
Juicy Butthole all this may be true, but no crime that allows a citizens arrest happened and these two idiots didn’t have the authority per GA law to make a citizens arrest because they didn’t witness a crime or have direct knowledge of one. Good day!
@@TheAndysim66 learn to read genius Georgia Code Title 16. Crimes and Offenses § 16-7-21 (a) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally damages any property of another without consent of that other person and the damage thereto is $500.00 or less or knowingly and maliciously interferes with the possession or use of the property of another person without consent of that person. (b) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she knowingly and without authority: (1) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person for an unlawful purpose; (2) Enters upon the land or premises of another person or into any part of any vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving, prior to such entry, notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant that such entry is forbidden; or (3) Remains upon the land or premises of another person or within the vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft of another person after receiving notice from the owner, rightful occupant, or, upon proper identification, an authorized representative of the owner or rightful occupant to depart. (c) For the purposes of subsection (b) of this Code section, permission to enter or invitation to enter given by a minor who is or is not present on or in the property of the minor's parent or guardian is not sufficient to allow lawful entry of another person upon the land, premises, vehicle, railroad car, aircraft, or watercraft owned or rightfully occupied by such minor's parent or guardian if such parent or guardian has previously given notice that such entry is forbidden or notice to depart. (d) A person who commits the offense of criminal trespass shall be guilty of a misdemeanor. (e) A person commits the offense of criminal trespass when he or she intentionally defaces, mutilates, or defiles any grave marker, monument, or memorial to one or more deceased persons who served in the military service of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof, or a monument, plaque, marker, or memorial which is dedicated to, honors, or recounts the military service of any past or present military personnel of this state, the United States of America or any of the states thereof, or the Confederate States of America or any of the states thereof if such grave marker, monument, memorial, plaque, or marker is privately owned or located on land which is privately owned.
These bubba’s were just taking out revenge for Travis’ allegedly stolen pistol. His family members may have even hidden the handgun from him because he was acting nuts. He and dad were jumping to conclusions that resulted in them murdering a man.
They jumped to the right conclusion in my mind as a juror. That is, Arbery committed a felony JUST BY GOING ON A PROPERTY WITH VALUABLES WITHOUT PERMISSION. Before you spend time arguing, read this GA 2017 case. DESMOND NAPOLEON DANIEL v. THE STATE. Jury, Appeals, GA Supreme court all held man committed burglary without taking a damn thing.
@@robjohnson8861 You're missing the fact that only a dwelling can be burglarized. Most experts don't consider a home under construction that has never been lived in a dwelling (although it may be up for debate due to one instance of case law). If the court observes a strict definition for dwelling, this couldn't have been considered a burglary, especially without a theft occurring.
TZoningHard When you’ve been chasing a man around your neighborhood with 2 trucks, and park in front of him with another truck coming up behind him, and you get out with a shotgun, you have caused whatever is to follow.
Sadly,, George Zimmerman was told to retreat by 911, he still approached Trayvon, being a "super cop", and wound up killling the kid, YET, he was given millions in support by some citizens, and he is still taunting the survivors of Trayvon. He did not suffer "after the shooting" at all
"Sorry, brother?" Really. Arbery owed nobody an explanation. Now he has to bow down to a white joe-bag-of-donuts and call the white man brother. Please.
The point was never about what the victim was doing. He didn't steal anything and now he's dead: those are the facts. The point is that these 2 or 3 men decided to take policing in their own hands and killed someone. They could've avoided the situation and now their lives are ruined too.
Did you miss Ahmaud clearly charging him and grabbing the shotgun? And punching him in the face? They never pointed the guns, never even approached him on foot just told him to stop. After Ahmaud charged him and grabbed the shotgun punched him in the face, it shouldnt have gone any other way. Now maybe you want to argue he didnt have the right to stand there with a gun and tell him to stop... that's basically the only arguement left. Given the ongoing trespassing problem it's looking reasonable to me. The homeowner is hiding the facts now because he doesnt want to be targeted, but he put up the security cameras because of stuff going missing, he called the police because of the issue, and he engaged his ex cop neighbour for help watching the property. You can see someone on other security footage calling 911 after Ahmaud walks into the house and Ahmaud running away, listen to the 911 call. Its questionable that Ahmaud was out on a jog as I've heard he lived 12 miles away and you can see him saunter up to and into the house, not 'jogging' before he sees the neighbour on the phone with police. The police had referred the homeowner to the retired cop (Mcmichael) to help with the problem of people trespassing and stealing on the property. He was trying to protect his neighbours property like he would have for his whole career. Did you see the bodycam of police almost tasing Ahmaud? And another time stealing a TV. Guy was belligerent and aggressive both times. It doesnt really count in this case but makes me less surprised he would charge for the gun.
@@ASPextra I did watch the video John. My comment was more directed at Mark Victor than you. I disagree that they were on the wrong side of the law there is a lot of missing info in this video that might have changed that idea. The dad was a retired cop, sheepdog mindset and the police actually referred the home owner to his neighbor Mr. McMichael to help catch who kept going into the property. So his mindset was to help his neighbor, and use citizens arrest. I'm not arguing that he would have been better off leaving property crime to the police or following from a distance and helping the police find him to detain him.
Raven Starver they admitted they were following him on a hunch. A hunch is not grounds for a citizens arrest. These guys are going to jail for a long time
@@TheAndysim66 This isnt an open and shut case. The second prosecutor wrote that they were completely justified (see 'george barnhill letter' pdf on google), the third said it should go to a grand jury to decide charges until he got told to send it to the 4th prosecutor. Which is who you are quoting from the preliminary hearing. They are quoting Mr. McMichael out of context and it doesnt sound like that was his answer to why he chased Mr. Arbery. I would like to see the full transcript as the second and third prosecutor saw when they decided they couldnt press charges.
I really enjoy this channel, but they both really needed to do some research on this case. They missed on basic facts and knowing a little about Georgia law would have helped. I totally agree about not confronting Mr. Arbery. I probably would have followed him until police arrived but I'm also not a former LEO.
@@ASPextra Okay, you might have misspoken, but Mr. Arbery did not live in the neighborhood and lived miles away. There is also a video showing he was walking and not jogging in the neighborhood; although, there are reports that neighbors have seen him running in the past. I’m not sure this point really matters as people are allowed to run/walk-in public spaces. The house under construction had been robbed in the past and a detective suggested that the owner contact Gregory McMichaels since he was a former LEO. Travis McMichaels also had a gun stolen previously from his truck. Gregory said he had seen him in previous surveillance videos and had seen him in person “the other night” and that he had reached into his pants, as if readying to draw a gun. They were on the lookout for criminal activity and Mr. Arbery in particular. I think the question that I would like to have heard the attorney address in this case is whether the three men had the legal right to make a citizens arrest based on Georgia law and these circumstances. They did prevent Mr. Arbery from leaving the neighborhood and he had to change directions several times in an attempt to leave. Georgia law says they can make an arrest if they suspected him of felony burglary and recent case law in Georgia might give them that ability. It appears to me that this case hinges on whether they were allowed to make a citizens arrest or not. The McMichaels reported to the police that they told him to stop and that they wanted to talk to him. After Mr. Arbery ran back down the street, the McMichaels took a different street and circled around while the person filming, Brian Williams, followed behind. They were parked waiting in the street when Mr. Arbery jogged at least 30 yards towards their truck and went around to the right of the truck and came around the front of the truck towards Travis. They wrestled over the shotgun and Mr. Arbery was shot three times. It’s crazy, but it is reported that Gregory was the one who released the video thinking it showed they were attacked and the shooting was justified and that it would reduce racial tensions. It appears releasing the video is why they have all been charged. I think the lesson learned is that you should not try to do a citizen's arrest unless someone’s life is at risk. The McMichaels should have followed him and waited for the police to arrive. I’m assuming Gregory thought he could handle it since he was a trained law enforcement officer. They are now paying the price for their decisions and Mr. Arbery has died as a result. That is not something I would want to live with. I also wish Mr. Arbery had stopped and waited for the police. I think he would have been told to continue on his way since he did not take anything.
@@chrisheitman overall, I think you have a thoughtful post. Keep one other thing in mind though, that may play into Mr. Arbery reacting the way he did to escape. He had been profiled and troubled by the police before. It appears in videos I've seen of his interaction with law enforcement that he wouldn't trust their resolution of this issue, and I can't blame him. If you look a certain way, you get policed differently. That's the unfortunate thing about poor policing, it creates distrust of the law even in someone's time of need. One more thing; felony burglary only comes into play if the structure is considered a "dwelling", which is debatable. If it was suspicion of a misdemeanor like trespassing, they had no legal right to pursue.
@@chrisheitman You're not really contradicting anything that was said in the video, you're just using a different tone. To each their own. You may feel like the McMichaels were at least partially justified. I don't. You may believe they recognized Ahmad in particular from a previous incident. I don't. You may believe this was not racially motivated. Considering the blatantly racist social media posts and texts shown at the grand jury trial, I don't. I think they saw a 'good for nothing black' in the neighborhood, and figured he could only be there to commit a crime. Am I wrong? Very difficult to know. Does my explanation make sense to me? Definitely. Am I ignorant of the facts? No, I saw the grand jury trial just like you did.
In the video, Ahmaud crosses from left to right, goes around the truck and then "attacks" Travis M as he crosses in front of the engine. Was Mr. Arbery aware he had a weapon at this point? Was he able to see Travis holding it as he stood driver side? The audio makes the first shot sound like it happened when Mr. Arbery crossed in front of the engine. I am not aware how the citizen's arrest and unlawful detainment issues will work, but the fact that Mr. Arbery "attacked" when he crossed the engine of the truck concerns me. I feel like if defense can explain lawfully all the other stuff, then they can easily claim self defense. I say "attacked" from a defense perspective, but from Mr. Arbury's perspective he was defending himself against unsolicited attention. These guys hired the best lawyers in GA and probably nationally, so although we can say this was racist, legally speaking I am concerned they will be acquitted. But they should not have been following him at all. Why?
Arbery didn't attack, he responded to the threat of a man trying to confront him with a shotgun in hand, which a reasonable person would perceive as a deadly threat.
trespassing while violating da peepolz property rights is a human right .. we must protek our Kangz joggin innocently on dey wey to space kallege n shet...fo reel.....
Arbery attacked the mcmichaels guy who had the shotgun. Arbery put his hands on the guy's shotgun and tried to take the shotgun. Mcmichaels was a licenced owner, shooting Arbery was in self defence.
The issue is what lead up to it. I think they were very stupid for pursuing the guy especially with their weapons out. While I think the end result is unfortunate for both parties, and it looks like self defense, you have to look at the lead up. That's they are going to have the issue.
@Briteone6988 go watch the video, you clearly see arbery attack mcmichael. He runs round the right side of the truck, then when at the front of the truck he makes a sharp 90 degree turn left and rushes and attacks the mcmichael who is holding the shotgun in the low ready position, he attacks him by repeatedly punching him and trying to grab his weapon. If you for some bizarre reason think the shooting was at 10ft distance then post a link to that video. Also if you even bother go read the medical report which states the first shot went through arberys hand which is consistent with arbery placing his hands on mcmichaels shotgun in an attempt to disarm and presumably kill mcmichael. Lesson learnt for all the dumbos out there, if 2 armed men chase you down and tell you wait and that the cops have been called, the answer is to wait for the cops to arrive. The answer is not to attack one armed man, try disarm him and kill him before the 2nd armed man shoots you.
@Briteone6988 @Briteone6988 He was shot 3 times. Once in the chest, once in the left shoulder area and once in his wrist. It was all at close range after Mr. Arbery took the left turn in front of the truck towards McMichael. You are incorrect that it was "at least 10 feet". I've watched the actual incident as well as the GBI testimony. In Georgia, they were legally allowed to perform a citizens arrest if they suspected him of a felony burglary, which they did. They were also allowed to open carry the shotgun. I wish he had stopped and waited for police to arrive and shown he did not take anything. It's very sad that he lost his life. I believe he would have been let go once the police arrived since he did not take anything. BTW, his criminal history in no way justifies his death in any way.
I don't know why you're discussing this topic when you don't know crucial facts. Secondly, citizens have a right to make a citizens arrest so don't criticize the fact that the three exercised that right!
You discuss this topic before all the facts were in or were ignorant of critical facts so it was very frustrating to have to listen to all the criticism for what the McMichaels did. Secondly, I was equally annoyed that your guest criticized the McMichaels desision to exercise their civil right to conduct a citizen's arrest. If he (or you) don't like the law then lobby to change it but don't scorn those who exercise that right!
This was the first attempt at starting up riots. If it had succeeded you would have never heard of George Floyd. Evidence is pointing to the possibility that he pulled the trigger himself by trying to snatch the gun. This is similar to the Zimmerman/Martin case. The shooter shouldnt have put themselves in that situation, but ultimately the shooting was justified by the actions of the person shot
