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Citizen Soldier 

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From The Film Australia Collection. Made by The Commonwealth Film Unit 1972. Directed by Greg Reading. Examines the role and attitudes to the CMF (Citizen Military Forces), its relations with employers, its activities and the reasons why its officers and men and women continue.

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@mrleechapman7615
@mrleechapman7615 4 года назад
At least we had real firearms back then love the SLR
@davidm3118
@davidm3118 2 года назад
This was fascinating. I joined 2 Div. Intelligence Company at Randwick in 1983. I'd already had military experience in another Commonwealth country overseas, but I was impressed with the professionalism and dedication of all the reservists. We shared our barracks with the Preventative Medicine Company who were also called on for a lot of practical work in outback communities and the near Pacific region. They also had close research ties to UNSW in malaria control. Just up the street from us was 177 Air Despatch Company. Although the units still exist, they have been consolidated in regular army Barracks. Our drill hall on Carrington Rd is now a block of "executive units", same with 117 A/D Coy on Frenchman's Road....
@ianrobinson8974
@ianrobinson8974 2 года назад
06/12/2121 All Australians SHOULD put up their hand to serve in one of the military reserves, Army, Navy, Airforce. It will give them experiences/skills not available else, as well as helping defend Australia, if necessary. My service (74 to about 84) gave me flights, in a hercybird, a caribou and well as a huey; still wonderful memories, also working with the Indigenous peoples of the NT who were ALSO in the ARes..
@sciron60
@sciron60 8 лет назад
Excellent view of what the CMF and later Army Reserve is all about - and still is today. For many, the fact that the training was haphazard was down to budgets and thus restructuring. During the 80s some years we were restricted to 25 days a year and you can't do much with that. But many in my unit went on to full time service, and there were even Reserve unit deployments overseas in the 90s. I'd like to see a version 20 years on in the 90s.
@bigglesflysagain1749
@bigglesflysagain1749 8 лет назад
Sounds like you had a good time, too, Ron ! Bangin' away on the BoFors was as good as sex....of what I had had to then...for me in those years ! Carry On !
@indeed7289
@indeed7289 6 лет назад
i'm in the reserve now the 25 days is now the minimum 150 is the maximum and if you're not employed (and depending on funding and Unit) you can work close to full time within the reserves (like myself) you mostly get detached to the regular battalions these days they can't tell if you're a chock or RAR the training standards are almost the same RAR do some things better we do other things better ive never felt the need to go full time i usually work a month on two weeks off throughout the year and its an open ended contract
@Redgumtv
@Redgumtv 10 лет назад
I was in the Navy Reserve for nine years (in the 60's). Travelled to USA, NZ & PNG, experience I would never had at age 20+. Worked in a bank full time and got accelerated promotion because of my Reserve training and later led me to a successful career in private enterprise (film industry). Socially, I made heaps of friends which I still have today and they're reliable and true. The Reserve taught me to understand relationships and how to work with others outside my normal circle of friends which made me a better person and employer. And when it came to war (Vietnam) I had a better understanding of what was or was not happening and that gave me the opportunity to protect my family. One thing I have kept in the back of my mind for nearly 50 years. It's volunteers, and only volunteers that have kept our country safe, that have fought our wars (justified or otherwise) and given every single Australian the way of life they enjoy today. We should salute our Reserve forces as again (in 2014) they support our military forces in the middle east and Europe. God Bless them all.
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 10 лет назад
Hi Redgum, thanks for letting us know your experience. It sounds exactly like the message these films were trying to get out.
@kevinoneill376
@kevinoneill376 10 лет назад
Well this was a "blast from the past". The unit featured in this film, 1/15 RNSWL was my first unit although I joined some 12 years after this film was made (when I joined the CMF had become the Army Reserve). Great to see footage of the "Parramatta Lancers" from the decade before mine. @ Barry Turnbull - I get exactly what you mean. I still remember names and faces of some of the guys I did my recruit course with at Ingleburn in 1985. I'd like to add a few comments about what Redgumtv said though. Gough Whitlam was not responsible for ending our involvement in Vietnam, he merely took the credit for it. The previous government had made the decision to withdraw Australian forces and it was in place when the change of government occurred. Whitlam was in the right place at the right time to collect all the praise. And as for the Vietnam War being "universally hated by every free thinking Australian", I've known many Vietnam veterans, my father and uncle and nearly every one of my instructors and Officers in the Reserves and their families. Some of them hated it, some of them enjoyed it and some of them were ambivalent. Despite the common belief to the contrary, many "Nashos" actually did want to go to Vietnam and while some regretted it later, others did not. In some cases, the parents of those "Nashos" believed their sons were doing the right thing because they themselves still had memories of Korea and WW2 and sincerely believed the communists were a serious threat.
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 10 лет назад
***** Thanks for sharing!
@ReHerakhte
@ReHerakhte 3 года назад
@Hans Joachim 2 Damn! Well, all things change in time I suppose... not always for the better. I moved to the other side of Australia decades ago and haven't been back to Sydney since. Even the place I did my recruit course has gone (Bardia Barracks at Ingleburn), it's also being engulfed by urban sprawl.
@barryturnbull1955
@barryturnbull1955 10 лет назад
i was one of these guys and it was a great time, gave me the skills to go on and join the regular army, made some great friends and although a while back and many memories are now gone i remember these days with fondness and achievement
@caveman6988
@caveman6988 6 лет назад
Barry Turnbull same here artillery great times
@sinisha61
@sinisha61 10 лет назад
Thanks for uploading ... the SLR firing practice segment was ''shot'' at Anzac Rifle Range in Malabar, Sydney, which was then part of 2nd Military District until 1988.
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 10 лет назад
***** Thanks for the information. Always helpful to identify locations and the like.
@NSWLancer
@NSWLancer 5 лет назад
Many of the faces in this film are sadly no longer with us. Regiment and association still going strong. These same vehicles are maintained by former members, now Regimental Museum volunteers. www.lancers.org.au/
@charliemarkovic4301
@charliemarkovic4301 Год назад
I joined 25RQR in the late 1980 when I was a university student. I went full time in the early 2000s. My most memorable postings have been as cadre staff at reserve units. Best part time of my life.
@bigglesflysagain1749
@bigglesflysagain1749 6 лет назад
I'd count the two years ( '62 -'64 ) I spent in the CMF were some of the best of my youth...layer on a 40mm Bofors out of Haberfield in Sydney....as good as sex !
@philipthomson7460
@philipthomson7460 3 года назад
Join the Infantry in the Regular Army, lads...no sitting around the campfire at night time there! Gotta love the bush hats and the lanyards, too. 😆
@adrianjackson2696
@adrianjackson2696 5 лет назад
Before WW2 it was called The Militia and after WW2 the CMF (C is for Citizens). The regulars were the PMF (P is Permanent) and both groups were in the Australian Military Force (AMF). The Army Reserve came later in the 1980's I think. Military really mean Army but now its sometimes incorrectly refers to the whole ADF by ignorant people including MP's.
@bigglesflysagain1749
@bigglesflysagain1749 7 лет назад
"....havyaseenmebelt?"....."whereyaleftit!".......LUV IT....sooooooo OZ like !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! No punctuation.....words all run together......:):):):)....my Mum is turning in her grave.... :):)
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 7 лет назад
Where proper education hits the solid wall of culture. yalilbewdy
@bazzinbulgaria4826
@bazzinbulgaria4826 5 лет назад
This brought back a lot of good memories. My service was done arse backwards when compared to some of these blokes, but I wouldn't change any of it. I left home and joined the RAAF in '64, served my 6 yrs and elected out for a break...that lasted about 18 months and then joined the Regular Army. I spent my time wearing that lovely yellow lanyard, first at Armoured Centre (Pucka) and later on as a Cav Crew Cdr with B Sqn, 4 Cav Regt. When that time was up, I moved to SA and joined the Army Reserve, again as a CCC with 3/9 SAMR...then I let some silly bugger talk me into becoming an officer.
@_robbo9053
@_robbo9053 2 года назад
“As long as a soldier knows why he’s getting mucked around and the reason for it”. How about no farken reason 😂😂😂
@Redgumtv
@Redgumtv 10 лет назад
It's worth making the point that in 1972 (when this film was made) that Gough Whitlam had just terminated our involvement in the Vietnam war which was universally hated by every free thinking Australian and brought our fighting men home. Those fighting men were blamed for the stupid and idiotic decisions of conservative politicians which took twenty years to overcome. Your film, Citizen Soldier, reflects very clearly this attitude.
@adrianjackson2696
@adrianjackson2696 5 лет назад
The troops in Vietnam were withdrawn by Liberal PM Sir William McMahon a year before Gough Whitlam was elected. When The ALP was elected in later 1972 Whitlam ceased National Service. I was in the Regular Army from early 1972 to early 1995 so I say it all happen. 3 years later the ALP were soundly defeated by Malcolm Frasers Liberal government and he remained in power for about 8 years. The public supported the war initially but later not so much. The protesters were small vocal groups mostly but later they were larger and one in Melbourne near the end had nearly 100,000 in the street.
@kentaylor1413
@kentaylor1413 Год назад
Mr Whitlam supported the Vietnam War during his talk in 1968 at NSW University. It wasn't until he elbowed his way into the Leadership of the Labor Party that he changed his tune. He didn't last long before he was sacked and white anted by his own ministers.
@mickmorrissey16
@mickmorrissey16 4 года назад
"I was in the CMF ; 50% was a waste of time and 50% was bullshit " ha ha ha 😂😂😂😂
@KingsleykSkorzeny
@KingsleykSkorzeny 3 года назад
Bloody oath ,it was the only honest bloke on the television program you just showed, I'm sure those chaps gave it to the Japanese, I wonder what the cartoon is at intermission.
@RedimonRedman
@RedimonRedman 3 года назад
Yep. With the exception of the Ferrets and some of the Service Dress, its pretty much what I joined up to in 1984 with 4/19PWLH. One of the shots of the depots looks like "A" SQN HQ at Sale. Loved the comment by the older civvi gent (probably a veteran) when he talked about "Mental Inbreeding". Classic!
@KingsleykSkorzeny
@KingsleykSkorzeny 3 года назад
I spoke the cut lunch commandos, and now I are one.
@PencilProper
@PencilProper 3 года назад
This is remarkably good production quality for its age.
@normanclapham7255
@normanclapham7255 6 лет назад
Joined 1955, did National service 2nd intake 1956 disc 1983 a wonderful experience, Still with the 41 Bn association supporting their soldiers please visit our website to see what an army reserve Battalion is doing. www41bnassoc.com.au
@caveman6988
@caveman6988 6 лет назад
Army reserve artillery 1985 great times
@richardthomas4471
@richardthomas4471 Год назад
As soon as wifey-po scrambled down the driveway with hubbie’s ‘cut lunch’, even before he said he was in the ‘CMF’, I knew he was a chalko.
@Larrikins54
@Larrikins54 3 года назад
"When a soldier is being mucked around an officer is learning something.................." I don't know who that CO was but that sort of view engineered the first day of the Somme. I joined the CMF in spite of this and remember it being screened. It took me into a 39 year career part / full / part time and I don't for a moment regret it. I made lifelong friends across the country, and along the way good people taught me how to plan, organise, communicate, direct, execute, review......repeat. Skills that have served me well in multiple environments. Having been a soldier I was very conscious NOT to stuff them around.
@georgebronte840
@georgebronte840 2 года назад
I realised I'm in for an interesting ride when I was instructed to seek out Seargent so n'so at the Stork Hotel on Elizabeth St to sign up. I wasn't wrong! They called us "draft dodgers"
@mickmorrissey16
@mickmorrissey16 4 года назад
Have a look at those knob officers with the pipes stuck in the gobs , in units I served, smoking pipes was contrary to SOP's .
@zaraNFC
@zaraNFC Год назад
It would be interesting if somebody could names to the faces. Who is the journalist?
@johnnydiamondsmusic1673
@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 5 лет назад
Just like my days in British TA
@tJ9etBxDq5VdSj2
@tJ9etBxDq5VdSj2 7 лет назад
awesome to see some black hats! thanks for the upload
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 7 лет назад
Glad you liked it.
@juliansiuksta2805
@juliansiuksta2805 2 года назад
Although this doco was made in 1972, - around The Time of our Withdrawal from Vietnam - it's the best one I've yet seen about out Part Time Military. This was more or less me, back in the mid 1980's. Same corps, different regiment. CMF ( Citizens Military Forces ) was renamed Army Reserve. Although I hardly ever saw any Majors there, except during The 'Pre Assault Trooper Phase' when we had a Canadian Major appear before us, in The Classroom to lecture us on Regimental History. And smoking was permitted indoors, not that I smoked - if that happened now, Worksafe or its military equivalent would smash the door off it's hinges in their zeal to prosecute whoever was causing the Global Warming, with his Cancer Stick.
@bigglesflysagain1749
@bigglesflysagain1749 8 лет назад
ABSOLUTELY some of the best months of my life ! ! ! I proudly served during 1963 and '64 in 9 Light Anti-Aircraft Regiment, shooting 40mm BoFors off the cliffs at Malabar, along with FN firing , also at Malabar. Was a #2 Layer, getting to control the traverse and elevation (electrical "T" shape stick) and was the 'shooter', pulling the trigger. (actually sliding both hands down the handles to hooked shaped stops at the end of each grip...pushing against these would activate the firing) What a RUSH for a young fella...with the breech bangin' away beside my right shoulder/head; the Commonwealth Aviation MUSTANG flying by pulling the drogue target, on a very, very long tether...the yelling...the smell of cordite...the smoke...more yelling....clanging of the empties as they ejected...and more yelling...even some cheering as my gun ( "E" for Echo ) was one of two, among many in the battery, that actually hit the target during a shoot ! However, with an anti-aircraft barrage, it was not necessary to strike the target; more to throw him off his attack run by peppering the sky around his flight path ! Naturally a round "up his spout" is fully acceptable !! Out in the bush and the grooty scrub with Vampires, from Pt. Cook, diving at us in training...for them as much as it was for us ! Trundling along in U.S. WW2 2 1/2 ton left hand drive trucks, pulling the cannons thru Sydney suburbs, being waved at by the 'birds'....in those years we were held in high revere ! I saved all I earned, paying for passage on SS CANBERRA to San Francisco, where the rest of my life began. I cherish the memories of that time in the CMF. Thanx, cobbers....have a couple of schooners of KB for me !
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 8 лет назад
Thanks for sharing your memories. Glad the film brought back some good times for you. Struth mate! You'd be lucky to find a pub with KB on tap these days though.
@bigglesflysagain1749
@bigglesflysagain1749 8 лет назад
...but ya need such to wash down a couple of sausage rolls, right ?? Thanx for the acknowledgement... :)....and a meat pie, with a bottle of Rosella, as well....and a bag (used to be in box ) of Jaffas and a Cherry Ripe !!.....don't get me goin'....cheers ! :):)
@lesthiele4921
@lesthiele4921 3 года назад
I could plated my three months Terrotorial Force Volunteer (New Zealand Army) training way back in 1974, I was then supposed to do one weekend or one day per month, I thought why? That was a big mistake on my part, one of the regrets of my life. I enjoyed those three months and at times re-live those days.
@omly85
@omly85 10 лет назад
I always wonder after watching your uploads,where and what the featured Aussie's are doing with there time these days.
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 10 лет назад
omly85 Yes it would be great to track a few down. We have had feedback occasionally from people who have been featured in our films.
@omly85
@omly85 10 лет назад
NFSA Films Oh really?..What did they say?
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 10 лет назад
omly85 Have a look at some of the comments for Junior Road Safety: Riding Your Bicycle Some of the kids in that film have contacted us. In other cases with older films it is sometimes the children and grand children of featured people. We also had some sad feed back about Rui from Why Can't They Be Like We Were? Rui
@omly85
@omly85 10 лет назад
NFSA Films Thanks,i will check them out.
@philcleaver2703
@philcleaver2703 6 лет назад
I appeared in this in a few shots still mates with several others 46 years later spread now,all over the world
@andyanderson1100
@andyanderson1100 4 года назад
That person at 11:20 is definitely future prime minister Kevin rudd
@jimspink2922
@jimspink2922 3 года назад
Targets down patch out scores. Remember doing that a few times at Swanbourne range in West Australia. Because faced out to sea had to have sentries out at either side of the range boundaries on the beach. The southern boundary was just down from the nudist beach so there were a few volunteers for that post. It was a bastard to shoot at in afternoon as you had the sun in your eyes after a certain time. AH Happy Days.
@brendanmccreanor1191
@brendanmccreanor1191 5 лет назад
Ex Charlie company 4RNSWR Merrylands see on Facebook. Mcc
@Larrikins54
@Larrikins54 3 года назад
At 12.43 the worst comb-over I've seen in a while.
@robertotaglienti6406
@robertotaglienti6406 6 лет назад
This was made the year I was born then 17 years later I joined the reserves...same uniform and weapons...
@jasoncarpp7742
@jasoncarpp7742 10 лет назад
I've never heard of the Civilian Military Forces (CMF).
@samj.s3132
@samj.s3132 6 лет назад
Jason Carpp they were renamed reserves a while back
@adrianjackson2696
@adrianjackson2696 5 лет назад
Citizen's not Civilian actually.
@davidbustilloscalj6391
@davidbustilloscalj6391 6 лет назад
Brilliant. Really loved seeing this.
@NFSAFilms
@NFSAFilms 6 лет назад
Great, thanks for letting us know.
@sydneym37
@sydneym37 10 лет назад
Looks like Mal French is in this video
@philcleaver2703
@philcleaver2703 6 лет назад
It certainly is I still speak with Frenchy and a few others out of 2 troop often alsoSSM Ernie D
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