Citizen Wrongly Arrested For "Trespassing" His Own Property 

Always do. Love these. My kids like seeing it too. So they know how to not mess up their future from deception and how to behave in an encounter with officers that aren’t full of integrity

hmmmm

Whatever happened to the other, older narrator? I thought I heard like a year ago he had a medical issue and surgery? And that was the last I heard.

@Scottjon Dansteve after he graded him, he said a bunch of words. Those words were explaining the grade. Why don't you refute something instead of pouting? Or offer up some kind of perspective I'd grade you a D on thinking before you act.

Always!

They didn't issue the ticket to keep from looking bad, they issued the ticket as a retaliatory action for not instantly and fully submitting to their abusive authority.

Do you live here yeah, Yeah, sure you do,,, Then you don’t have any donuts in the house yeah, bullshit,,, Where is the lemon pound cake?,,, We need to confiscate that too,,,

Oh yeah, there’s no way this is a dirty cop,,,👮‍♂️

This is the way

And that's what's so sad is they can't admit to when there wrong

Yea, I've been arrested for someone ELSE assaulting me and it was so bad the ticket that was written was a minute behind them being dispatched, they had my mom's name incorrect, they had the street name that it happened on wrong, (they literally said it was the next street over and not on OUR property which it was on OUR property) and when I talked to the DA she dropped the charges provided I didn't get in trouble for like 6 months, (which was easy because I don't get in legal trouble). Like it's so bad how cops behave. The cops even came in like they KNEW I was in the wrong, with 3 of them vs me and already had plans on arresting me without even hearing my family's side of the incident. And police wonder why the public doesn't trust them.

Good job, had you not done that, they would have just bullied you and run over you, I'm glad you were able to tell your side and get it dropped

Is this supposed to be a good story? You were arrested wrongfully, and the cops get off scott free?

@@TheOrangeRoad small town. Sheriff department doesn't care enough here to do an internal investigation.

@@TheOrangeRoad Not every story has a “ha gotcha” in the end, especially cop stories.

Just bring in somebody else’s property is not, in itself, a crime. If it was, we would all be in prison.

@@MrJamberee to say the least

And recording it all on video to prove my guilt

The neighbor never claimed it was “her” property as the officer said, but possibly a utility. Therefore, no valid claim of trespass could be made and a warrant would be necessary for entry by the officers.

Right lol

They're not police officers, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo.

Why do you say homeowner, they're not at the home ?

@@johnreiner3247 like low IQ trolls on COD

Well, you are not suspicious to them when you wear 30 000 dollar clothes, have a million-dollar ship, and other stuff. This means every ordinary person, who is relaxing enjoying a little bit of nature, is suspicious. The cops and authorities should be grateful that the air is clean, that the forests are not in the fire, that people enjoy spending some time in the forest and doing sports. I didn't know that forest is somebody´s property unless the person is living in some castle, which includes part of the forest. Forests are usually the property of the state, and everybody has the right to go there and exercise. You should walk every day in nature for minimally 45 minutes, to avoid dementia, Alzheimer's, etc.

Cops are the last people on earth who should be making presumptions about anyones mental health.

Because it’s considered “crazy” to stand up to cops when they unjustifiably approach you. The 911 caller also does not suffer any consequences.😡

Yeah i am sorry but this is not the way talking to a cop... it makes you seem really suspicious..This is not how you answer questions and try to defuse the situation.

Just dropped an identical comment. I never went to court though. They believed me and left once I showed the ID.

i usually side with the cops, but that was wrong.

"Why dont people like us?" -police

That's a lawsuit

What state is this? There's shitty cops, but charging you with a felony after providing adequate proof of residency is entering the realm of retardation.

I would assume that if an officer refuses to give name and number then legally we are under no obligation to believe he is? Couldn't see it working any other way.

@@DatJNP yes. I am not sure what the federal ruling would be, but many states have a mandate requiring self identification from police officers, so it has become common practice. However, most civilians are either too trusting or too intimidated by the police interaction to ask for that information. Therefore, there is a pretty big chance that the person asking is going to file a complaint or is being intentionally disruptive/confrontational. That seems to be the assumption this officer made.

To be honest and was act so suspicious by not answering half the questions

@@Turnip397 Yeah he was seeking problems

Yeah the 1st cop seemed pretty friendly/reasonable, the other seemed completely unreasonable and took complete charge of the situation which made it worse.

Overly nosy neighbors.

Wouldn’t those cops be an agent acting on behalf of the owner in the presumed owner’s absence?

@@Funkbass85 No, because an agent must be someone who has been delegated authority through a legally binding relationship (contract, kinship) or has verbal/written authorization to do so. The cops could only do that if the verified property owner, or their agent, gave them that authorization. The moment you call the cops and tell them you want someone trespassed from your property and you make contact with the responding officer and agree to go through with it, only then are they able to act as your agent in trespassing someone. The responding officers must make all reasonable effort to make contact with the property owner or their agent and verify that status before trespassing someone. These guys are posterboys for the endemic problem of cops not wanting to make any reasonable effort to do anything and instead choose the path of least resistance that works most of the time: abuse of authority and intimidation. And they get upset when that doesn't work.

@christianastorga4565 with your mindset, your neighbour(s) or law enforcement could trespass you from your property while you sleep in your bed (breathing, bathing, cooking, eating, etcetera).

@@robinhollenbeck367 you’re gonna have to show your work on that one, cuz that’s one heck of a stretch.

@@Funkbass85It’s not a stretch.

Some people do just that.

When someone yt calls the police you mean

@@tapiwakay bruh what

this is another topic that get swept underneath the rug I'm actually really surprised he hasn't brought up Tim pools recent events. the event happened during a live stream and of course he won't speak about it because he knows the truth about the wonderful phone call.

That’s called Swatting

That was the funniest thing to me. Wanting to arrest someone for "scaring people half to death" for working on their property. I think Karen needs to go back to bed or mind her own business. Maybe get a new hobby like putting puzzles together or sewing instead of spying on her neighbors at 5 in the morning.

her* window. it's only one old lady

Welp, without the police, situations like these would end with a few buckshots fired, and trespassers killed. Now *I* wouldn't mind that kind of society, but a lot of people would. If it wasn't that cops choose to be the coercive arm of a corrupt state, and were simply to solve cases like these, I'd feel bad for'em.

@@OfficialSeth okay not everyone that puts puzzles together are Karen’s now. Wife and I just finished the 1990s one lol

So... Granny had no idea who her neighbor is? I call b.s. there. He and his family probably annoyed her at some point and this was just retribution.

Don't think they won't, just to be spiteful .

So true. I understand how annoying it is when a random cop turns up and demands identity, or proof of ownership. But .... rather than argue over civil rights, would it not be simpler to say "Sure officer, here's my driving licence, my water bill, " whatever ?

@@trilliarobinson7862 Or maybe the officers could just respect my rights? People like you are why so many people don't really know their rights

@@trilliarobinson7862 No, because then the police think they can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Just like Roscoe P Coletrain here thinking that he can do whatever the hell he wants to this landowner based literally on a neighbor's phone call.

@@trilliarobinson7862 If you let this slide you're not going to be far away from neighbours who don't like you calling the cops on you and claiming they saw you step into a car that's not yours but theirs. Hoping some trigger happy cops answers the call. Is that the country you want to live in where cops just step up to people demanding you proof first something is yours before you can use it?

@@otmanh That IS the country that the US seems to be morphing into. Yes, of course it is wrong, but in cases like this, how hard would it have been for the man to simply step into his own house and find a bill or letter, or something, proving it is his. yes, it is police harassment, yes, he shouldn't have to do it. But in today's climate, getting into discussion with a police officer seems to be classed as "resisting arrest". Also, since these encounters are seemingly always recorded, better to appear to be co-operating, than appearing to resist. Humiliating, certainly. crazy, possibly. But sensible ? Maybe.

True! And falsely accusing people. Someone calls the cops and says this person did this to me. They come and arrest you and you have to prove you are innocent. Innocent until proven guilty what a joke!

I agree. A caller should be liable to be put in prison if they reported wrong. Edit: if the police will use the phone call as the most credible thing they saw. Then why are they getting paid so much? Aren’t they the ones who are supposed to determine all the facts? Okay he is suspicious …. Now what…let’s set up a perimeter and determine the facts. What are we allowed to do and not do. In the military (RCA) we have the 5 whys. Ask why after every answer and if there is no answer for the remaining why’s then something is really off and wrong.

J'accuse by Emile Zola regarding Alfred Dreyfus. Look it up. It basically boils down to being able to point your finger at a person and saying "I accuse you of (reasons)" and the person is automatically guilty and thrown in a cage. So, you are absolutely correct. The cops believe the woman but not the man? But, let's be honest. The guy could have helped himself a little bit. SHOW UP FOR COURT. Then he can due the township for $$$ for violating his civil rights.

It's an excuse and nothing more. That's why half the time they say they got a call and they didn't.

Why would you assume we need to limit the power of "random callers"? They have none. 100% of the validity given to any particular call is assigned to it by dispatch. Additionally, in many localities they are required by law to respond to all calls. Fact is, this has nothing to do with random callers so long as they're not abusing the policing system (IE: false police reports) this (and most calls) can be resolved if the officers responding did a non-intrusive investigation and allowed for the presumption of innocence. In this case (episode) all the cops had to do was knock on the front door of this dudes house while one of the two officers detained (stood next to) the owner. If nobody answers the door, they have no report of trespassing from the land owner (because he's standing with them and would not have reported himself) so they have no grounds to arrest.

mama thats what they do to every one that stands up for their rights

When it all comes crashing down scores will be settled.

I mean... To be fair, the suspect wasn't exactly all that bright either. He kept on invoking the fifth amendment, but kept on talking in the most suspicious of ways possible, despite being innocent. He was provocative and evasive. Putting on the tough guy act when he should have just kept his mouth shut. The cop didn't handle it properly, but I can't completely pin the blame on him either. Just a case of two idiots colliding.

Good ole boy sheriff's deputy . . .

That Deputy needs severe demotion down to cell sweeper / toilet cleaner

He's not an officer, he's an SS soldier of the American Gestapo

Police do not have the authority to determine if someone is trespassing. Only the property owner can do that.

*you're

@@ThereIsNoOtherHandleLikeMine And yet, they do it all the time. They routinely trespass on to private property to ask you if you're allowed to be on said property, like it's any of their business. If you're half way through a window then I understand, but if you're doing yard work then mind your own business.

@@SimBir08 Actually, it is impossible for a cop to determine if someone is trespassing. No charges can be filed unless the property owner is involved. Until they contact the owner, they have NO IDEA.

An officer can only go off based on what is in front of them. Instead of playing ring around the rosy, He could had proved he had a right to be there, within 30 seconds those cops would been back in their car.

@@joevsyou fuck that

@@joevsyou is that how the law works? Officer can just threaten to arrest anyone until you prove you are not guilty? If I'm leaving a bank the officer can arrest me for robbing the bank until I prove I just withdrew my own money? I thought an officer needs a reasonable suspicion based on specific and articulable facts, taken together with rational inferences from those facts that a person had, is, or about to commit a crime. Not an "inchoate and unparticularized suspicion or hunch" Terry v. Ohio, 392 U.S. 1 (1968)

@@joevsyou ugh, it's people like you who will eventually make our Constitution invalid. Use your god given rights or we will lose them.

@@joevsyou That's not how it works. And a callers words aren't evidence of anything. They're simply a callers words.

Which is not the way the law works but police do it anyways.

What you want them to do? Someone called them thats why they need to confirm that even if we say the done wrong😊

@@ykrop1517 Agreed! Just saying you live there doesn't mean anything! What if he was a burglar? Are people seriously happy with someone just being able to claim they live somewhere without actual proof of them living there!

​@@redacted7634 Sure but there are more productive ways to approach this - he volunteered quite a bit of information; that he had to drop his kids off at school for example - they could latched on to that keep him talking on non-accusionary tone - and if he's full of crap - then he'll start to contract himself eventually. Since they failed to inquire any information they basically arrest him for no reason. Also they could have simply started with "noise complaint" to see his initial reaction; maybe the neighbour and him had a history; like territorial dispute or whatnot - the guy assumes he knows what's going on based on one phone call and how he looks and immediately goes like: "why are scaring this old lady" & "your trespassing" which puts him in a defensive position; so he starts stonewalling every question.

@@n0xure Fair enough I as did many others just simply stated what we would do in that situation.

Well put. Yes, up until that point, the cop was an ignorant, arrogant, misinformed public servant on a power trip. But that threat tipped it over into a whole additional level of threat and ethical violations. Wow, just wow.

Yup

But I love metal. Metal head for life! 🤘💯

I used to work hospital security and part of our job was dealing with behavioral unit patients who were admitted under an emergency detention order by police. So many were normal people who just said the wrong thing or the caller lied. Normal people get stuck on a hospital by force and I had to keep them there, all because of shitty police work

METAL issues like Ozzy or Metallica? Or issues like Deep Purple or Iron Maiden?

This ☝️

Not a random lady. It's a neighbor. Get to know your neighbor.

@@bui3415 yes, but to the police, it’s a random lady

There's a record of the call and call out , all verbal out there , til later, at least there's a dash cam .

@@amcoho4 but I dont understand why ppl try to make themselves look more suspicious if its so easy to disprove.

Didn’t you watch the video? The police have been looking and calling him outside the woods for 30 minutes prior to recording. They probably did identify themselves many times.

I thought the cops did fine… give them your address to prove it’s your property and be done with it

@@amark350 lol

Yeah cuz they think they’re gods gift to the earth and should walk around with absolute authority. These fucking boneheads believe that they should be obeyed under all circumstances even when it defies logic…

@@aaabbbccc1939 I watched the video and it started with a cop yelling “c’mere” p,us cop said “I am not coming where you are”…..sounds like a standoff?😂

Yep

He has some other constitutional rights he probably could have exercised too....

@UCnV2H-eHfaXGsur2NlZZM1w i think this youtube commenter is a drug dealer, probable cause?

@@cheeseburgero1 right?? Im SO BEYONG TIRED OF RANDOM PEOPLR CALLING THE COPS. I was finishing a phone call outside starbucks and had cops pull up, TO A STARBUCKS IM A KNOWN REGULAR AT

They should've been shot the moment they crossed that line.

Well, Mr. Jones didn't die or get tazed or beaten, so maybe a D....

In reality, I contend there are two grades forr law enforcement officers: A and F. No in between. You can't partially deny someone their natural rights, you can't partially unlawfully arrest someone; you can't partially gin up false charges to make yourself look better. It's either pass or fail, that simple.

This. A C- is a disgrace. This is the first time I highly disagree with AtA’s assessment.

Nah they DID respond to a concerned citizen's call. F- would be if they do not respond what so ever.

They aren't being graded on whether they arrived or not, but on their conduct after arrival.

they were called to investigate

@@ArmandoHernandez-dh3gz If it wasn't by the owner, they had no right...

@@ArmandoHernandez-dh3gz Does NOT mean they can charge the property owner with tresspassing ON THEIR OWN PROPERTY.

Gis survey use that name run that through ncic investigation done goodbye

But you have no 5th amendment rght to remain anonymous. The individual asked the officer to ID himself to deflect the officers demand he identify himself. The individual responded to the officers demand with his own demand. The officer was within his right to tell him later. In other words you must answer my question first. I don't agree with the officer initially barking the order of ' c'mere you '. But this man was acting suspicious and being uncooperative. He might of murdered somebody and was hiding in the woods. This could have all been avoided if the individual did not act like a dick.

@@JackSquat54 is that boot you're licking of rubber or leather? In a country that has things like the 1st, 4th and 5th amendment the civilian had every right to act like he did, the burden is on the officers to make a better investigation before importuning citizens.

When I was a few decades younger, there was no such buzz term as “anger management issues”. Call it what it is. Being a straight up asshole.

the BIG PIG

I think it's clear that it's the civilian who has some issues. He could have easily cleared his name but watched one video too many and decided to be uncooperative with the officers. A simple name and address reveal would send the officers on their merry way. I still don't understand how the civilian received a B- instead of a C by ATA.

@@Clouded_Reactions the first cop was fine tho, he was asked his info and gave it, the other one ignored that and refused to believe him AND when he finally gave his address he wanted him to prove it after saying he just wanted to hear the address to prove it.

@@Clouded_Reactions that’s just a lie though because he later provides his address and they still don’t leave. The second officer is also extremely hostile out the get go and doesn’t provide his name or badge number when asked, making him immediately distrustful. This cop was immediately mistrustful and aggressive because he claimed he was trespassing which cannot be claimed as he was not given permission by the property owner.

And he probably got a promotion and a paid vacation too, cops are a bunch of no good thugs biggest gang in amerikkka

i have feel the same thing not by police but my family, and since then i dont speak to them.

I could believe the audacity and utter tyranny of this officer! The initial approach of the officers was this man is homeless and trespassing!

This is the main reason I disagree with giving them a C- for the encounter. Terrible law enforcement.

I was entertaining the possibility of a mental health issue on the part of that guy long before the officer said anything about it.

I agree but you do have to understand how people could see that as suspicious behavior. I think there were many issues with the officer’s investigation, however the problem would’ve been resolved much quicker had the homeowner just proved his innocence. He made the situation significantly more difficult than it needed to be.

@@LemonPlatypus Why does he need to prove he lives there? If the old woman said he is tresspassing her property why not ask her to provide proof that this is her property?

@@davidustoa6432 I feel like it’s not that deep. It was clearly a mistake by the neighbor, but she had reason to believe that someone was doing something suspicious in/near her yard. Say, for instance, it was a person trespassing, is she supposed to just let that go? I’m all for exercising your rights, but this whole ordeal could’ve been avoided had he just shown proof that he lives there. I understand he doesn’t have to show proof, but that just escalated the situation. It causes him no harm to simply provide his address and prove he lived there.

@@LemonPlatypus Police is the one that should de-escalate, not the suspect, they are supposedly trained for that. As the video said, they could just investigate, knock on the door of a few neighbors and ask if they know him. But that cop did everything to assert his power and escalate the situation.

@@davidustoa6432 I agree with you, I just feel that there was no reason the homeowner needed to act suspect, when he could’ve just cleared his name.

Land ownership is a matter of court documentation. It is unwise to attend any court hearing if you have proof the local government is corrupt or otherwise is a criminal. If the court allows popo to round ppl up b/c they have been permitted (literally) to be someplace or do something, then why not _BURN_U.S.A._TO_THE_GROUND!!!

That's the Sandra bland act. Where they can put you in a mental institution with out seeing a judge

You assume that they put in any more effort to ensure that he was served notice of the hearing than they put into staying in their own lane. Would it really be so surprising if it turned out that they accidentally on purpose botched that too as an easy way of giving themselves a free pass? All they would have to do is have a believable excuse for how they did their best to make sure he got the memo even if it was total bullshit, like sending it to the address of the neighbor whose property they claimed he was on and then trying to pass it off as an honest mistake or something because they just got the addresses confused when they were filling out their paperwork. Would it really surprise you if they did something like that in retaliation?

Watch new video of Dui Guy.. He s a lawyer. He was asking the officer in court about the field test... Dui Guy asked him, Do you write down only the informations that are negative, from your observation, but you don´t do the same about the positive observations that are helpful to the client, the driver. ...so anything that is helpful to him, you don´t write down. It seems cops are not trained to write down also the positive observations.

@@youtubealgorithm5977 We still have only the cops' word that somebody reported him being on their property. And we all know that cops never lie. Im, didn't you notice how quick they were to immediately state that as the reason they were out there on *his* property? (Spoiler alert: That never happened because they took their sweet old time making that claim.) They were so desperate for something that they could make sound plausible that by the end they even tried to play the psych hold card. But sure, I suppose that was all part of the job.

@R R more over Audit the Audit suggesting that these officers go door to door in Rural Arkansas before 6 in the morning.. WHAT? I live in California and the people in the rural areas are by and large ARMED. I am in a very gun restrictive state, Arkansas is not such a state. Risking being shot just to find out if this guy is lying... not going to happen.

@@dafien530 it was almost 7 am. The sun was rising. The cop apparently didn’t know what time it was

@Qyx When Bootlick Central still isn't licking enough for boot for it's own audience. "Man was too suspicious, should have bowed more, all his fault. Plus 'muh rights'. See I wrote it funny, like a meme I saw on DonutOperator, that replaces any need for an argument. 'Muh rights', so good job officers. This is R/LeopardsAteMyFace material.

@@ScribbleNuts "but failed with fumbling words and long pauses" because we all know that Constitutionally protected rights only apply to articulate people.

@R R 1. He has no responsibility to cooperate with officers. 2. He has legal and constitutional rights not to communicate with officers. 3. Suspicious activity is not grounds for arrest. _Simple as that. Cops broke the law._

If there was a trespasser on your property, what would you prefer the cops to do?

He's the property owner. The neighbor had no business calling the cops without checking with him first.

That's Nazism.

@@lamerica80 not be on my property without my permission? What the fuck do we pay property taxes for if these jackasses can just barge in without the owner's permission?

@@lamerica80 What does that have to do with this case? There was no trespasser.

Yeah this some old south I'm the law an what I say goes ya hear me boy.

Absoutely, they commit him and next thing you know he's knocked up on all kinds of meds and stuck in there.

We got to chose our battles tho. Im sorry but if im walking around my home with items on my jands at darl, and a cop gets called, i would say i do live here doind some work or just returning shit to place. This is my id pr paperwork if new tenant. And say thank you for coming to check a suspicious person at night in a neighborhood with families and elderly.

@Jimmy from Philly lmao exactly 😅 also, I'm from Delco, waddup!?

@Jimmy from Philly . I dony swallow boots and just like people dony want to bother with respectfully exercising their rights, perhaps tneu should not ever call cops for break ins and dangerous sitiations. Because what if the same asshikes show uo asking yoit name again. Proof of residence to make sure who belongs there and not. Exercise the second ammendment as well so you can protect your home and person. Because idiot co, bully cops might not know the laws and we eouldnt want to violate a burglar rights, to bare arms during a break in. Or kidnapping or rape, maybe kids alone after school need cops help many tnings can happen. So maaybe this auditors here should

Until he shows proof he’s nobody…I can walk onto my neighbors property and say i own it. Doesn’t make it true…The guy was a dickhead throwing sovereign citizen bs. Show your license or proof and it’s over.

What if the owner is not home ?

But he continued to NOT prove he was the owner. Frankly, I think he was acting like a dick. This situation could have been dealt with in seconds if he simply gave them his name.

@@tigerbear3038 Then there is no trespassing, unless it is clearly posted.

@@tigerbear3038 Unless they're breaking and entering, in some states, they can't arrest them for trespassing without the owner or their agent asking them to leave, unless there are posted no trespassing signs. Even then, some police departments require an affidavit stating anyone other than the listed people in the affidavit are trespassing.

This is true. But he should've at least gotten a public defender and shown up to his court date. Kinda screwed himself there

@@jvann244 That's how the process works, yes, and he will be punished for not following the process. Nevertheless demanding he take a significant chunk of time, unpaid, to fight blatant police misconduct is unreasonable by the process. Also part of the process is that he needs to give his identity, or he will be retaliated against. The constitution is not worth much if all it does is give one the opportunity to invest time and money to cancel part of the retaliation one receives for believing in the promise of constitutional rights.

​@@Peter-jl4kibeautiful assessment. Nicely said.

i don't know why this doesn't have more likes. some people just want to mind their business and not be harrassed and have to prove their innocence against thugs like this cop. sure he messed up legally by not going to court but personally it made me feel good to see him stick it to that cop metaphorically one last time @@Peter-jl4ki

no, fug that nonsense@@jvann244

Not Audit the Audit here because he failed to mention critical things. The cops have no basis to charge him on his private property, making any charges they try to put on him even after finding out it was his property illegal. They did not ask to be on his property, and he should have put trespassing on those Officers for illegally being on his property and failing to conduct a proper investigation. I suggest watching other people like Direct D, San Joaquin Valley, or LackLuster who are far better channels, or Delete Lawz who actually teaches law.

Sadly though you can be a good person but not a good cop nowadays because the way everything's gone so corrupt with a lot of the cops being good cops because they keep their quota by doing stupid s*** and arresting people that don't deserve it they let the actual criminals get away now your friend who you say is a good cop hats off to him I'm proud of him is there a very few of them in the world now so I'm happy that he informs people that he talks to about their rights and everything

Maybe not if he thinks these cops deserved a passing grade like Audit the Audit gave them

@@chadingram6390 He doesn’t. Anything less than an “A” from a public servant is unacceptable. It IS a failing grade.

@@mitchellturnbull3988 Good to hear, maybe a B is ok every once in a while, people do make mistakes. I really like good cops but i really hate the system as a whole and all those bad apples we've seen in so many of these videos. I hope your friend makes it and can influence his co-workers

Can only imagine the poor innocent people dealing with ignorant cops before videos

I think, maybe, the officers should watch these videos and get it straight. Disgusting.

Yep. Just like themselves!

They need to watch RU-vid themselves. It may help them from doing stupid Shit

@@RichNotWealthy Rights need to be exercised to continue to exist.

He could have gotten paid

What says he can’t still? He was arrested and booked under false charges. So he can still lawyer up and sue the cops, the department, and the district attorney.

He can still go to court over this. Problem he has is that he missed court for this once. The lawyers, judges, and everybody else will use that against him.

HALE v. HENKEL 201 U.S. 43 at 89 (1906) Hale v. Henkel was decided by the united States Supreme Court in 1906. The opinion of the court states: "The "individual" may stand upon "his Constitutional Rights" as a CITIZEN. He is entitled to carry on his "private" business in his own way. "His power to contract is unlimited." He owes no duty to the State or to his neighbors to divulge his business, or to open his doors to an investigation, so far as it may tend to incriminate him. He owes no duty to the State, since he receives nothing there from, beyond the protection of his life and property. "His rights" are such as "existed" by the Law of the Land (Common Law) "long antecedent" to the organization of the State", and can only be taken from him by "due process of law", and "in accordance with the Constitution." "He owes nothing" to the public so long as he does not trespass upon their rights."

@@kurtwetzel154 that's true. It's a shame that he didn't turn up. It can only look badly for him.

Because illegal arrests have to be extremely blatant before they carry personal consequences for the officer committing them - way more blatant than even in this video. Officers can make illegal arrests because the officer has the right to assault and even execute those who physically resist the illegal arrest. And if the people submit to the arrest and fight through the courts it requires time, money, and luck to succeed, and even a successful court case won't personally affect the officer who committed the illegal arrest.

Makes people not like workers in your field

It's awful on those occasions when as soon as someone who is unhinged to any degree simply doesn't understand something or someone, immediately they jump to "you need a mental health specialist/therapist, you're unhinged"; it's BS. I've had family pull this one on me and I just make it clear that they'd be wasting their money and both our time. I guarantee any therapist who sees me would be shocked that anyone thought I needed therapy; I've done tons of deconditioning work and I know my psychology really well. I'm the last person in this family who needs a therapist lol, I'm catlike in that I keep to myself while living my life to the fullest while they bicker and argue over petty stuff all the time. And they wonder why I keep to myself. My best friend met my mom once, and he couldn't help but think she seems like she's incredibly chaotic mentally, that was his main impression of her. I wish there were some way to make her realize this and give her some perspective without provoking instant defense mechanisms, but that's just how it is I guess. I won't stoop to her level and authoritatively pull the mental health card on her. I don't know, mental health is weirdly weaponized sometimes, it's bizarre. "YOU NEED THERAPY" is the biggest cop-out put-down of the 2020s so far I think. I wish there were a magical "perspective button" which makes someone step back and see the obvious bigger picture to whatever it is they're fixated on. Heck, I could use one for myself every now and then too, haha!

@@notanymore2293 nah. Psychiatric facilities make people hate psychiatrists and mental hospital nurses. Because that's where like most of the abuse happens. But police are part of that cycle. They are part of the reason people who are perfectly fine get sent to these abusive facilities.

This is standard operating procedure anymore, to gain prosecutorial authority over individuals. It is being used nationwide.

@@notanymore2293 Nah just makes us hate cops who abuse the system like this

Exactly

Yep. Mind your business.

Disagree, "nosey" neighbors keep my place safe from thieves and vandals. Baldy cop is the problem here.

@@deltalima6703 there's a difference between alert neighbors and Karens and anyone reading this had one pop into their mind.

Good point - the neighbor reported someone working in the woods at 5 AM, but also stated she didn't know who the owner was. I don't think that would even reach the level of reasonable suspicion for anything.

Yeah, that's what it boils down to, doesn't it.

Well it could have been avoided if he just told the cops it was his property and didn’t act so shady.

@@Jbolo123 You can't "act shady" on your own property? Tell me, Comrade, exactly what is the State's guidance on how we should and shouldn't act on our own property? 🤔

@@Jbolo123 but principles keep good men from bowing.

@@Jbolo123 Agreed.

LOL

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Officer: "Well, imma go knock on that door and ask the homeowner." Owner: "OK, go do that." Officer: Owner: "Hello again, MY EMPLOYEE." fixed

@@richardstorm4603 the police are not your employees. You do not pay their wages.

@@theguy9208 the city state or whatever does and guess where their money comes from.

It was dark and 5 in the morning she likely only seen the light. She also never filed a police report but merely reported legitimate suspicious conduct. Property lines can also be skewed with neighbors. So I don’t think you’d have a shot at a conviction

I would find a good reason or any justification to call the police on her. I would use feelings alone.

i think your mistaken. the cops said that later, but their stories changed a bit. narrator told us the old lady called and said a possible suspicion person was on "the" property. there was nothing false in what she said.

EXACTLY!! The grade should be D-. Farmers are in the fields at 5am. He wanted to get his chores done before going for his kids. She doesn't know where her property line is? Thank God they weren't trigger happy. But they disrespected him and accused. What kind of response did they think they would get? And the Department backed their actions.

@@ruthellaowens well, no. Not exactly. Unless we have the exact report.. from what audit the audit explained, she never said "her property". Even if she did, it would be within reason for her to believe it could be her property. She could have been mistaken, not filing a false report

Agreed. The cops deserve an F in this case. Knocking on the door should have been step one, or looking up the owner to see who it was. Telling them his name is pointless without the reference of who actually owned the property. The cops also didn't understand WHEN they are allowed to bring mental illness into it, on top of escalating needlessly. That means they use that as a tool, incorrectly, making illegal arrests elsewhere and endangering the freedom of the people they are tasked with protecting. They didn't deserve anything in the C family, that was an F performance.

what if your neighbor saw someone suspicious on your property at night? Would you actually be pissed if they called it in? This guy could have just acted like a normal person and the cops would have left right away but he had to be a dumbass and not give any proof it was his property, he literally just had to say his address and not act like an idiot

@@Industry-insider he literally DID say his address

But all the way through he was being evasive and as usual that seems to be ingored.

it doesnt require the owner to trespass someone. it only needs to be posted private property.

A fence is considered " informed " where I live. If an officer can act on that without the property owner calling them, I'm not sure, logic would say yes in this situation with the neighbor calling it in.

You're right. They can't trespass him or arrest him for loitering. Well not legally anyway.

@@Pickleriiiiiick That isn't entirely true. A fenced off area is indeed enough to trespass someone off a property when cops show up. But that doesn't take away the owner of the property or their agent need to be in contact with the police. Logic and law say no. They can't trespass someone unless the owner, or an agent, of the property confirms the trespass. Officers can't trespass people from random private properties just because they feel like it. If the person was doing nothing else to raise suspicion, obviously.

@@simmerke1111 that's a fair breakdown. Issue falls with the suspicion though. Its entirely subjective, wouldn't someone perceived as being aware of the usual activity (the neighbor) raising concerns, fall under suspicious?

@@Pickleriiiiiick Cops are trained observers, right? What was Mr. Jones doing upon their arrival? Breaking into a house?

In some states, police legally can't arrest someone for trespassing unless they speak to an owner or agent of the owner or tenant first.

The woman claimed to be the owner. happens alot in the country

@@daviddiebold7357 its always a woman.

@@daviddiebold7357 The angry cop said the woman claimed to be the owner. That's not what was stated at the start of the story. Angry cop seems to have lied to escalate the encounter and justify his violence.

@@daviddiebold7357 The woman never claimed to be the owner, that was a lie told by the cop. If you watch the whole video, she said she didn't know whose property it was and thought that the person on it might be someone with a utility company.

I used to think the grades were off too. However, if being graded based on other LEO's the grades make sense. Most average officers would behave pretty much like this officer did. So he was about an average LEO. They would only get an F if being graded on if they followed the law. To the average citizen if they were asked what grade they would give a police officer that violated the law, they would give them an F. They would not take into account grading them on a curve based on other police officers behaviors.

@@timhartsock9942 Good point, well said. I have thought the same thing

And the owner did say it was his property early on and then later tubs asked again as if he didn’t get the answer already and used that lack of response (in addition to the name) against him. It’s silly

@@timhartsock9942 that logic is silly. Bad is bad. Being thrown into the sun is a clear F. That doesn’t make being lit on fire a C-. It’s still an F.

maybe because they didn't killed him

Yes, it's easy to overlook the fact that this could have been a dangerous situation for the land owner.

Rather than "scaring an old lady", I'd say he's guilty of triggering a nosey old busy-body.

At the point where the officer said he had ten chances to answer and didn't know if he'd let him go even if he complied, he made it a personal vendetta, which in itself is unprofessional. Then he started threatening mental health evaluation. Cops don't have the right to continuously threaten charges to force someone to answer their questions. The thing that gets me is they read Miranda rights to people every time they arrest someone, yet they ignore that they have the right to remain silent. How much of a bonehead do you have to be to realize this? At no point did he ever return to the neighbor and further question her if she recognized him or go to the door of that residence to verify anyone in the house knew him. His wife could have just as easily mistaken the cops as thugs approaching her husband and shot them in self defense on her property in the dark... As far as it goes I think the officer should be sent back to the academy for remedial training when they escalate situations by showing disregard of fundamental rights of individuals.

I think he might be charged with assault on a Karen next for getting his mail without waving at her. Since that severely hurts her feelings.

@@Dawnseeker2000 Far more likely she's a light sleeper and just annoyed.

That's like always?

Blanket excuse to ruin someone's life for a period of 72 hours or longer

Far left thinking is running rampant

That is a Soviet Union mentality, where political dissidence was cause for confining people to psychiatric hospitals

@@albertthedogeinstein7983 you trumpies love these nazi cops dont you

@@firstlast4091 yes they appear to.

Crazy ain’t it lol

also were there any no trespassing signs ?

Yeah what I don't understand is nobody tried to contact the owner? 🤦‍♀️ Makes perfect sense.

@@nenapennington9866 arrested him off pure speculation smh

They took one look at his facial hair and decided he was a homeless guy squatting, I guarantee it. Cops get a dumb idea in their heads and will twist anything that happens to match that idea until they can make an arrest. "He looks like a homeless guy. He's not identifying, only guilty people do that. Therefore, he's trespassing."

But what if a Criminal was on your property planning on killing you and they said I live here then cops go ok I’ll go away now have a nice day?

@@justinsquibb9030 Consult your congressman and ask him/her to change the constitution of the USA.

@@justinsquibb9030that’s why the cops are supposed to attempt to contact the owner of the property So the alleged killer would be exposed pretty quickly.

How so? What else are the cops supposed to do? They need to investigate because trespassing, believe it or not, is a crime, and yes, how “arrogant” and “stupid” they are for asking simple questions. Why is it such a problem for these people to answer them? Does it bruise their ego? Does it make them feel powerful or superior over an established authority? Great, I hope they feel powerful and superior being driven to the police station in cuffs so they can answer the question there and sort it out when they could’ve done it in their own yard and not had to take a step off their property. Absolute stupidity on the part of the homeowner, and for what reason? _”Just because I can“._ No discretion whatsoever, they’re morons.

@@rekunta Innocent until proven guilty. Police didn't investigate anything. They went in biased and acted from there. Therefor: Arrogant and Stupid.

assumed the very thing that person said multiple times to everyone she talked to wasn't the case. "I don't own the property" "i don't know whos property it is". all of the sudden turns into "She said you were on HER property".

no escape, you can't cheat the system

I don't agree with it at all, but their response would be that they are "conducting an investigation in response to a call". In many cop's minds, that means they can go anywhere and do anything within 5 miles of that call.

He could have, period.

@@Boomer04888 it doesn't really matter what is in their mind. What matters is the law. Which is in place to protect the rights of individuals/ citizens of the United States.

@@jurgeysamuel you seriously expect law enforcement to know the law they are enforcing?!

Audit the audit is always on some bullshit

The guy has obvious metal health issues. He even told the cops he got up at 5am to do some work. Anyone that gets up that early is nuts. I don't wake up till Noon.

@@thenorthstars2210 you obviously never worked a real job

Cops a fkin coward. They should be jailed for trespassing.

@@alphakennybuddy264 Really? All jobs are 9-5 to you? I mostly work night shifts; are those not real jobs?

Yep, if they actually educate their officers they won't have the ability to say they didn't know.

Actually they are here in Colorado Springs. In fact they use ATA in the academy classroom. You can bet this one will be in their "Don't be that guy," file.

What's the lesson? If a potential trespasser says he lives somewhere believe him and go back to the police station?

Exactly because following the law means NO revenue $$$ for the city.

@@jacklewis100 Yes because you haven't amassed enough evidence to ascertain guilt or innocence. In that case the suspect has, as we all do, the 4th and 5th stating you don't have to assist their investigation into yourself AND if insufficient evidence exists of a crime you can do NOTHING. Not dispelling Officer alarm IS NOT a violation. In fact it's litterally the 5th. Secondly, a neighbor isn't someone who can make a claim that carries trespassing if they can't give an ID, as in this case. Lastly, If someone claimed "I'm the resident and I don't know what's going on," cops could do this. But they don't have that, they have a "Someone is over there." So when the cops said "If you don't convince me you live here that's trespass. It's not because he has no call to compel identity. You and your "But how will they solve crimes without violating rights," crowd need to consider the other option, they need to get good at what they do and adapt to the modern world, like the criminals they face have.

Well how do the "tyrants" know he wasn't trespassing. He could of let them know it was his place and proved it then that would be it. But no he had to be stubborn and not say anything. What were they supposed to do? Leave him there? It's not how it works lmao. The neighbors called. They're doing what they were called to do.

In this case, both were idiots, for their own special reasons... Jones for not simply saying, "Why don't we take a walk down to MY house, and you can ask my kids if I live here," and the cop for not doing his job before going for the cuffs.

@@looneyburgmusiche doesn’t have too

@@Buzzlightyear575 Just because you have certain rights does not mean you should use those rights to talk, (or not talk in this case), yourself right into being arrested. The simple fact is, no one has ever won a civil rights case against police on the side of the road, (or in a backyard). Those fights belong in court. So the smart move would have been to show the cops that, yes, it was his property, he did live there, and then after the cops had left start looking for an attorney to perhaps sue the department/town for the rights violation. This guy knew he had screwed himself at the end, when he more or less offered to surrender, (by handing over his ID in exchange for not going to jail), but at that point it was too late - that cop was on auto-pilot the way cops get when they decide to arrest someone regardless the facts. Like a lot of cops do, he made the mistake of letting his ego get in the way of being smart.

@@looneyburgmusic one, the cops didn't give a shit when he gave them his address. At this point, the cops don't care. They blatantly lied to the guy when they told him that the old lady said its her property and he was trespassing on it. Why is he an idiot for standing up for his rights? Why is he an idiot when the cops lied straight to his face? You do realize that the o e cop was going to arrest him no matter what. From the start of the guy not giving his ID, the one cop was telling g him he will be taken down and fingerprinted. The cop even said that after the guy gave his address. This is what is called a thug with a badge. Blatantly violating someone's rights because he thinks that he can.

@@looneyburgmusic if youre cool with your rights getting trampled on thats on you kid

No doubt Jay

@R R that's happened already

Composer Dvořak used to go for a walk to a forest close to his house at 4 am ..then he came home wrote the music and then he went again to the forest and continued to compose there in forests (in Europe) in 19 century. Well, this is America, and it's 21 century so going for a walk at 5 am is a crime. in 21 century. :)))))) All the athletic people who take care of their health are actually criminals.

We give cops a lot of latitude with the assumption they will use it for the benefit of the people. Of course we know that's far from true, thanks to videos such as these.

Welcome to unqualified impunity.

Guilty until proven innocent.

There's a lot of interesting things in a situation like this one. Firstly, there's a potential difference between a yard/property enclosure and a house. If he was inside of his house there's very little to say that the police had any right to initiate any contact what so ever outside of executing a warrant, or just asking a question. Out in the open on ones own property is treated as different though the differences vary from state to state. Some say if you are investigating a potential crime the police have the right to make contact and question you on the property, but not the house, while others include the property with the house and the police can be trespassed if they are not wanted by the owner. Here it's a strange situation where the owner is not known, and the owner is unwilling to cooperate even as part of his own defense. He isn't under any obligation to, but it does escalate in some circumstances what the cops are able to do. The whole reason why they are there is the "reasonable suspicion" that he is not there lawfully which in many cases does grant them the right to make contact for investigative purposes. It gets wierd around the point of does he have the right to not identify himself. The answer is yes and no. Up till hes under arrest he doesnt have to identify himself, butbrhe police operating under reasonable suspicion to have the right to detain him under the belief that he has no legal right to be there. But what's really odd here is his unwillingness to help himself. Let's take a different approach and say Mr. Jones was inside sleeping, and the police came into his property to investigate a trespasser the old lady reported, and that legit trespasser had confronted the police exactly as Mr. Jones did. Should Mr. Jones or anyone else then be grateful for the trespasser standing up for their perceived rights and leave them be to do whatever? Or would they rather the police not take the suspects word at face value that they are the property owner and arrest them? The police don't know the difference and can't be expected to. Though Mr. Jones may have the right to not identify himself on his own property, the police themselves do/may have the right to investigate a criminal complaint until they are satisfied with the outcome.

He did not say he was at his RESIDENCE and it's not clear if there is a house on that property. If there was, it would have been much easier for the police to discern and sort out the facts. The guy owns some of the responsibility for what transpired.

@@billmccoy3666 totally agree with you 💯 I would have just proved who I was he seemed to want to escalate the situation imo.

but if the man was wise he would have stated his address and wouldnt have lost precious time

I can think of a thousand examples way worse than this lol

@@TheJerbol You are right, but this is the one in front of us.

@Qyx they're on HIS property. THEY were trespassing. You're an idiot if you think this was Mr jones' fault. He was minding his own business on HIS OWN PROPERTY.

@Qyx Agreed, should have complied more. Offered the officers some money and tea as a reward for entering his property without permission. Should have immediately produced papers, apologized, given life story, and been done with it. Plus, 'muh rights'.

He likely didn't get the court notice

Lol 🤣 so funny you are right nothing for Christmas 🎄

Neighbor getting at bag of shi

They should be getting a lawsuit

guy was asking for it, there was a very easy way out of the situation but the guy decided to be an idiot and got charged for it

@@ΣταυροςΡηγας-χ1κ I don't give a damn what the cop was asking for. The property owner had no legal obligation to identify himself. So the hell with those pigs.

@@ΣταυροςΡηγας-χ1κ Just give up your rights...make it easy for the cops to violate them...

@@jajw1990 how is it giving up your rights? you have the right to stay silent, but you're gonna get detained. You want the cops to mind their own business? Well, just tell them your address, that this is YOUR property and its done. you not telling them, is just making them go in circles, while they detain you to figure it out. They are gonna get the answer either way, whats the point?

It's called "swatting" and it's gotten people killed by the cops.

Anybody defending this dude are so dumb. The police did what they had to.

contact the owners and ask if they are allowed to be there. think about your parent, child or friend outside your home and them being arrested because their ID has a different address, without even a knock at the door or a phone call to verify they werent supposed to be there. its not rocket science to know the ID doesn't list all of the properties you are allowed to be at.

I think that was the moment the cop realized that he had it wrong, but he had talked himself into such a lather that he couldn't back down. He was looking for alternatives, because he knew that the ID check would prove that he overstepped.

Yeah, He Probably Did It Under The Guise, Of “HIS COLOR”!!!!

I absolutely agree. The cop grabbed that from thin air. I think they should have received an F just because of that action.

@@chillsillego9599 dude looked white as snow

It was over the line ,and stupid .They coulda easily proven that it was his property and talked to the woman about making false reports.

He's not bankrupting anyone, he did what he did for a reason they just didn't catch, and he fled on top of that...so he is going to jail no matter how badly the cops reacted in this single incident.

@@fortusvictus8297 i wished he would have just shot the cops. then at least he would be an outlaw on some moral grounds.

A mental health call is a cover for the crimes committed by the cops and prosecutors and judges corrupt to the core. Leaving people with a slandered name and other rights stopped. These are treason committing felons doing this that leads all the way to the white house, from the ground up.That means congress. More people are murdered by vigilante cop and voodoo which doctor to cover up government crime than are gun crime.

So what if you were at work and someone who didn’t belong on your property was there. Should the cop just take his word for it that it’s his house? Wouldn’t you want the cop to identify the person so you don’t get ripped off.

@@Miadolph no one said the cop had to take his word. There was nothing stopping him from looking up the owner of the house. What's wrong with the officer following the law, instead of using threats as a shortcut?

Right because crooks are the only ones that can claim that, cops dont have feelings

Lost it completely for me when he tried to tell him he had to prove his innocence rather than the officer proving his guilt.

Proving guilt happens in court. The DA not the cops have to prove guilt. Cops just have to believe you are probably guilty (probable cause) to arrest you and bring it to the DA.

Well Mr Jones didn't show up for his court appointment, so that's certainly not rational behavior.

@@Oakleyworld don't matter what their feelings are. They are law officers. They are NOT the feelings officers.

lol

Best to hand them a coloring book and crayons….keeps them calm and away from their weapons

Sometimes a good response is, " I'll have a Double Jack in the Box Combo, Large with Coke, Thank You"....

Yup in a small town it really matters who ur friends and neighbors r which is BS.

Your boyfriend must've been so thrilled to start working on a garden at 9:30 at night after working all day.....

Sue.

Something similar happened to me. I was taking measurements for a fence and finding survey markers and my neighbor tried to shoot me. The police came out went to talk to him, laughed about it and then left. This was shortly after Id moved into my house. Makes me never want to live in a small town again.

@@petergriffin383 I’m sure the original commenter was thrilled to start working on a garden at 9:30pm after working a 12 hour shift 🙄

Plus they should be trained in how to talk to people as well

I JUST SAID THIS YESTERDAY AND MANY OTHER TIMES

Not to mention how stupid idiots don't know how to deal with the cops. Simply answer their questions and it would be over with in 5 minutes!

This is why we need to spend MORE on training programs.

Not into voodoo which doctors but? How about a living understanding of the Constitution?

Yeah I'd have been like "sounds like some old lady is scaring herself, and wasting police time on false reports to boot. Listen officer, if you genuinely feel there's a big bad scary crime going on here, you go and try and convince a judge to issue the warrant for you to save America and the day, otherwise this interactions over. Have a good day."

I wish people would mind their own damn business. If I need you to keep an eye on my property to the point of calling the cops if you see something weird. I will fucking tell you that. Otherwise assume I have it handled.

I think the guy should have just cooperated w/police AND should have let his neighbors know that he might be working early/late in the day. Imagine how many people have been SAVED by police 4 investigating these kinds of calls.

@@allisonlew4508 The guy is NOT required to notify the old bat that he is working on HIS property. He does NOT have to prove anything, the cops (These "Reno 911" rejects) have to prove it. They are just butt-hurt the guy didn't drop to his knees for them...

Had similar situation where I was prepping for laying concrete at around 4:30am because the temp that day was a projected 120. Not sure why the hell they felt the need to call. You can’t get in my house or in my yard unless I buzz you in because of the gates and 11’ wall. And locals know I have cameras everywhere. People these days need to mind their own business.

In what state?

@@anime_cyko I'm pretty sure that's every state.

He wasn’t charged with trespassing

@@alexblanco9687 then what else could he be charged with? I dont have to identify myself on my own property, so no law was broken, if the officer wants to know who I am they can look me up in the property tax records office

You might save to watch the video, you know this one that includes the law and shows that what you just said is not true pmsl

In the new house construction industry were not allowed to make loud noises before 8am. Drilling, sawing etc…

Eloquently put!💯

I'm only 3 minutes in and this guy seems like he WANTS problems. The neighbor called for suspicious activity? Cool. Just say "this is my property, i live at number so and so, im just starting my work early. I dont have to tell you my name." Instead he gives them more probable cause by acting suspicious.

Acting nervous imo. What are rights for if you have to spill your guts bc cops say so?

In all fairness, you’ve got a burly looking male rustling and moving in a lightly wooded area at 5 AM with a flashlight, and elderly people living nearby. What if he was some crazy guy and there was a single mother with children living in the house right there? Are the police supposed to just believe him and leave? The guy is being extremely vague with his language, and although it’s his right to do so, the police have a duty to protect and serve the public. It must be hard for a police officer to just say OK sounds good you didn’t give us a name you didn’t give us an address you didn’t even tell us in detail what you’re actually doing and what your plan is. Sounds good see you later! No, The citizen is escalating the situation, by not providing his name and address to the police. If he really wanted to work at that hour, it would be beneficial for him if the police knew about it that way if anyone called they could check and say hey he’s doing yardwork. Bottom line is, the police are going to get your name and information one way or another.

Thank you for adding a few very important points.

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You don’t live in Arkansas do you?

A C- is a fail. When I was in public school a pass was 65% or a C+. I have since taken several courses over my work career that require an A or 85% to pass. I believe that being a police officer would fall into that category. To arrest a man for nothing is an automatic F and should result in the officer's termination and pulling his certificate if he has one.

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@@alanmacification the officers did absolutely nothing correct. The get an F, they escalated the situation they caused by not doing their job properly.

Millennial here, that is a failing grade when I was in school. You zoomers I swear you guys have it easy as hell.

@@Physhi I know you haven't been to school in like 30 years so let me give you a refresher. C- will let you skirt through if it only happens a few times. You'd get a C- where it's obvious you made an attempt qnd understand some of the material but you didn't pass enough for a good grade. The Officers here actually did nothing correct, they didn't do their jobs, they violated rights and they wasted tax payer money because they were lazy. Gen Z are holding shitty people accountable and you're saying that shitty people deserve lesser sentencing because it's still technically a failing grade? You gotta learn how the world works mate

Jup. He could be posing as an LEO.

@Qyx the problem is you shouldn't HAVE to listen to anyone. Especially on your own property. Cops need less power, we don't need to listen to them more. Go do some research kid.

@Qyx The police should know the law and follow policy(which they didn't). You are not required to talk to them period. Stop with the excuses and spamming

@Qyx Nope - he has no obligation to cooperate with officers, answer their questions, or identify. Caller noted they didn't know who owned the property, he wasn't undertaking suspicious activity (like looking in windows, etc.). Officers lacked sufficient reasonable suspicion for a detention (refusal to identify is not grounds for reasonable suspicion except loitering).

he could of shot at him and be free to do so by law.

not showing to court is being stupid, but he doesn't owe you anything. Don't be an entitled prick.

Agreed.

@@gsp1175 Black ppl huh?

The guy might not have been properly told about his court date.

@Invictus Good luck with that. The state has unlimited resources to fuck you up for the rest of your life. Does this guy have unlimited resources to fight back? I bet not.

Yup - the caller reported someone working in the woods on property where she didn't know the owner. He was not undertaking suspicious activity (such as looking in windows, dismantling property, etc.). Officers did not have reasonable suspicion for a detention (refusal to identify is not reasonable suspicion except for loitering).

This situation is pretty difficult. I will preface my comment by saying the following is my opinion and I am not claiming that anything I say is fact or inherently correct. On one hand, I don't want law enforcement to be able to use a potentially anonymous third party complaint to justify my arrest or a seizure of my property, but on the other hand I would also like police to arrest anyone trespassing on my property, if I am physically absent or incapacitated, through use of identification and verification of the suspicious party. And if the police came and asked me to identify myself and/or state the address so they can somewhat authenticate my right to be on that property, I would consent to it in an instance like the one in the video because their suspicions are articulable and somewhat valid instead of invoking the 5th which is normally used when refusing to self-incriminate. And if I lacked identification, I would begrudgingly accept their need to take me in to identify me even if it is a complete inconvenience. The word of the third party caller in this particular instance is more verifiable than the word of the person refusing to talk, even if the third party caller turns out to be wrong in the end. You cannot judge this situation using hindsight, you need to approach it in real time so as not to bias your way of thinking. Were the actions of the police justified? Why or why not? What if the person didn't actually turn out to be the land owner and didn't have permission to be on that land and had no valid and legal reason to pass through it? How could you verify this person's claims without violating his rights? Were his rights even violated? This is why I prefaced my comment with the statement that this is my opinion because this case is well within a weird legal gray area that is interpretable, and if you had 100 people, you would receive 100 different answers on whether the police were justified or not. Again, this situation is difficult. edit: the officers threatening involuntary commitment was way out of line, and they should have remained professional during the interaction but that and charging him after verifying his identity are the only parts where the officers were truly in the wrong.

@@deltahx It isn't really a grey area. Courts have ruled reports from callers by themselves is not sufficient to form reasonable suspicion - the detention is illegal before you get to the issues of refusal to identify, refusal to answer questions, being uncooperative, etc. It varies by jurisdiction, but you can be arrested for trespassing without contacting the owner - in general signs, a fence, etc. are considered sufficient notification to the public. The officer could have issued a citation, which would have gained him the persons identification: - if officer discovered the person was the owner he could have dropped charges. - if officer discovered the person was lying, he could have taken him in. - if officer couldn't/wouldn't verify, he could leave it at a written citation, it could be cleared up later with the owner, but in the meantime would have the person's identity on record.

Yup. Fired out of a cannon into the river.

@@deltahx Police have access to, or the ability to get access to, the ownership records of properties in their jurisdictions. Will they bother to get that information? - Also, if cops got out of their cars more often, and spent less time generating revenue with traffic stops, they might actually start to know who lives in their jurisdiction. I am not saying foot patrols for suburban and rural areas, but at least paying attention to the people who live in your area.

dude, just because you say its your property doesnt mean its your property. he asked for his address, and what he was doing on the property. He kept skirting around the answer and pleading the 5th. What kind of dumb arse does that?

Yeah, however, just take a second to listen to how suspicious he sounds with his reason for being on the property “uuugh work?”. In my opinion people like this guy, who clearly knows the law, are both wasting their abilities, the officers and his time. I du der stand that in America he was well within his rights, however the law isn’t genesis, and certain laws are confounding and obfuscating both to the public and the police. I’m sorry but I hate auditors like this guy because they tend to take things out of hand so that he can either get a lawsuit against them or just to be “right” and keep completely irrelevant and inane information which could be found as easily as getting his IP address or just politely asking.

@@croquire7538 But that's the whole point of auditors, to force the police to break the rules when they arrest them so they can issue a lawsuit. That's how they improve the system.

@@arandombard1197 I mean it's 5am dude is probably groggy asf trying to just get some yard work done so he can enjoy his day later, and is thrown off that random police are treating him like a homeless tresspasser and interrogating him.

@@dekuwashi5223 all he had to do was tell them the address he was at. The officer that you guys think is a hillbilly asshole even said that man had a right to not answer the question and prove himself innocent. It’s uptight and nervy citizens like this guy that make you, the followers of the auditor, feel like you need to say something to support him. He’s not worth a dam! Lmao

Clearly you broke into the house prior and hung up your photos lol worlds something stupid

Clever burglar thinking 10 steps ahead. Just accept that you got caught.

As a young man I climbed to enter my house about 5 times. (not as simple as climbing over a wall. I had to climb vertically and horizontally until I reached the balcony) Hardly anyone saw me, and no one called the cops. Good luck. Because it was highly suspicious. When climbing was no longer a good option. About 5-10 times I had to manually lift a garage door(at first it was light, with years of disuse it became heavy) It took time and several neighbors saw me. I was slow because I didn't want to get dirty or hurt myself. Just ONE time police patrolled by when I was inside and I had the gate raised with boards. There were at least 2 neighbors outside, a few houses away. But I did get to unlock the front door with keys, put on the clothes I had laid outside, take out the trash, close the gate, and finally close the front door. The cops left as I walked out the front door and put on the coat I had left outside. They never approached, they continued on their way.

@Perez. Dude, That's an EASY police misconduct, Motion to exonerate, & expungement situation...

@Mike Perez "It’s still on my record" The police consider the record to be legitimate because it records actual happenings that involved the police. There may be no way to force the police to expunge the record.

The cop straight up said until you prove you are innocent.

They have a right to investigate crimes, the fuck do you expect