Hard agree! Some of the best gameplay design I've seen in a wow class, period. Now lets hope blizz nerfs resto shaman a little so people still invite us xD
Thank you! First first one consumed a proc from the talent "Shining Righteousness"... It seems I don't have a tracker for this, oops. Second consumed a proc of "Divine Purpose". Third used holy power!
Hey, thank you! Personally, I don't like running Veneration because it feels like there is too many buttons to press. But I think you could reasonably put that point in any of the available options if you preferred something else than 2nd infusion, and wouldn't think anyone is objectively wrong for running it. I know other good paladins are running it at the moment! I like 2nd infusion right now to help guarantee I have a proc for each Judgment or Holy Light when needed, which means I'm more likely to get mana back/do larger absorbs from Greater Judgment or cast bigger Holy Lights.
@@Jickolas Oooooo thank you for sharing your thoughts, I'm always curious since I'm also running HPal and this deviates from what's the norm. Thanks a bunch again!
How do you feel about 3rd boss cd rotation? I usually pop wings at the same time as you and feels like using am+dt+personals first dark pulse should be enough to get through it. For the 2nd one you should have wings and bubble+sac if necessary but I'm still unsure about this, it's always the first one always that feels sketchy (i'm already always trying to soak many orbs myself to make use of the 25% more healing)
Truthfully, I feel like the third boss is the hardest in entire pool. Completely agree with you - the first dark pulse always feels like the most difficult part of the fight. I'm going to do a bit of log review on it soon. I haven't fully mapped out my new cds yet, but I'm thinking of trying this BoV + DT Viscous Darkness AoE #1 Bubble and soak Viscous Darkness Orbs #1 BoV Viscous Darkness AoE #2 Wings Viscous Darkness Orbs #2 BoV + Wings should still be up for Dark Pulse #1 BoV + DT Viscous Darkness AoE #3 Nothing - Viscous Darkness Orbs #3 BoV + Blessing of Spring Viscous Darkness AoE #4 Spring should still be up for Viscous Darkness Orbs #4 AM + Spring + BoV Dark Pulse #2. DT might be up during this Pulse as well? Will need to test of course, but this sounds like it could work better than what I've been doing... unless your group gets 3 Dark Pulses, but I haven't had that happen yet. If it does happen I'd be screaming for bloodlust tbh.
@@cgs5835 That would be part of the Eternal Flame spell :) Very useful here when clearing absorbs, but also great in general when you're healing with BoV! www.wowhead.com/spell=156322/eternal-flame
Do you ever switch up your talents or is that the page you run for the majority of your keys. Any talent swaps for specific dungeons would be helpful as well.
At the moment, the only dungeon specific swaps I'm making is Improved Cleanse vs 2 points in Fist of Justice. You could also run Turn Evil for Amarth in NW, but fearing mobs can be a dangerous game! I'm only changing talents in my spec tree to try how different talents feel, but not *because* of a specific dungeon mechanic (yet)!
Haha yeah I got super lucky getting Gale out of my vault :) Saved me who knows how many runs trying to farm it. Surely our vaults tomorrow will be blessed with big haste!
To some friends hpal try to always bring a decurse and (especific dungeons) another dispell. Its rlly useful. Im hard stuck at 10s now but it really depends on other players (defensive use/ilvl etc) our spec seens not weak but we have a lot of cons
Hey, I just updated the codes on the google doc again. Any luck with these? docs.google.com/document/d/1elJSiKCeUss51VGM2iMnyazFjLAZr2T_dwFG8BGw_jk/edit#heading=h.76dgg5dqdg71
I think it's incredibly cursed for pve and doubly so for holy paladin. So many nonsense talent points that are between "not good" and "actively griefing yourself" to take lol. I think there is a couple good ideas / changes but those are balanced out by nodes like "reduced stun duration"... like what??? That being said, I actually like the top half of the tree more than our current one... but all bottom half / powerful talents just aren't hitting to me.
@@Jickolas totally agree with everything you said. Hoping they get some feedback and change it at least a little before it goes live. Like you said there are some good ideas there, but there are so many useless talents it's jarring.
@@brianfairchild4665 I wonder how rets are feeling about it. I haven't played any ret in TWW, but from a DF perspective... it looks horrible for ret as well. Kinda feels like blizzard made it exclusively for prot paladins (or pvpers I guess lol).
@@Jickolas yes I agree. I feel like it doesn't hit ret as bad as Holy still. I think it hits Holy the worst. But really I think it's bad for all 3. I mean reducing the duration of forbearance? Stun reduction? Healing increased during divine shield on yourself? Those are all so niche you might as well close your eyes and pick your class talents.
Hi, I’ve been watching your runs for a while now. I love how you play this class. This is my first healer and I did a mythic 0 for the first time. It went horrible. 😅 I’m trying to learn from watching you, but the health bars of me and my party fall so much faster and my heals feel like nothing. Would you be considering a guide for holy paladin? I really want to enjoy this class but it’s frustrating to be harassed in chat for not being able to do my role well. Thank you for the videos. Even though you might just be uploading it for review, it helps a lot. ❤
Hello Yana! I appreciate your comment and the kind words! Sorry your first m0 went like that. Nothing feels emotionally worse in WoW than not being able to keep your group alive, and being told in chat that it's your fault (especially if you already know it) sure doesn't help. The good news is that, like you said, it's pretty much your first time healing end-game content. You can literally only get better! I'd love to make a full guide someday, but I don't quite feel "qualified" yet. Additionally... making videos is tough and time consuming! The 7min BoV video I made a month ago took an embarrassingly long (like actually 7+ hours) time to make. I have a few ideas, and I will absolutely create something again... but I can't commit to anything specific. Sorry if that's not the answer you're looking for, but it is the truth. Below is a bit of advice I would give a newer healer. I hope it ends up being helpful! Make sure you completely and totally understand what your abilities do, and what your keybinds are. Any uncertainty here leads to wasted brain globals which directly translates to less healing! It will take some time, but 0 hesitation due to class/finger uncertainty should be your first priority. After that, focus on these 2 things: 1) Always Be Casting (ABCs): Wasting time is bad. You could be building holy power / getting everyone to 100% health / doing damage / preparing for big incoming damage / etc. Having a strong ABC habit as a baseline is important. 2) Interrogate yourself: Whenever something good/bad/strange happens, problem-solving the situation from the perspective of "what could *I * have done differently" will get you far. Thanks again for your comment and support! Good luck with Hpal!
