They are so used to barking their orders, and not having anyone refute them, that they really begin to believe that anything they say has got to be correct!!
Educating people who have power to beat you down and lock you up is a scary business. Seriously, I applaud your efforts. This is how to get a big, out-of-control, unyielding freight train back on track and under control.
It's a sad sight when you see all these public servants gathered around just trying to find a way to deny you a civil right. I'm pretty sure that's the opposite of what we think we're paying them for.
I've been binge watching your videos Jeff and I have to admit that you and Thomas are the best auditors out there...I'd like to help as much as possible because I think what you are doing is the essence of what it means to be American...I know your esteemed friend is now deceased and I'm sorry that is the case, please let me know where I can donate to your efforts...👍
spreading knowledge and cheer to the ignorant authorities, HYO is the master at this. So refreshing to see someone who does audits with dignity and class.
LOL They were so hesitant to take your friendly advice. "Do I listen to this peasant and look weak or do I stay in the road and get hit by a car, I can't decide!"
My question is, why should YOU have to provide THEM with all of that legal documentation and information to explain that what you're doing is legal? Isn't it THEIR job and THEIR responsibility to know the laws they're being paid to enforce?
Excellent audit! Non-confrontational and educational unlike most channels where it seems as if they’re trying to provoke contact instead of trying to educate.
Well done. It always cracks me up to see them so confused that you aren't intimidated by them and immediately doing whatever they say. Keep educating them one at a time!
@@dericdomino Depends on the State. Many States correction officers are peace officers and have arrest either full LE powers or LE powers pursuant to their duties which would include security of the perimeter of a jail or prison.
There is reasoning behind that and although the US SC has not ruled on a current case concerning videoing in public by the general public, and only a patchwork of US Courts of Appeal decisions upholding same, an old SC ruling concerning a First Amendment right of journalists photographing from public property had restrictions placed on them that they had to have a message of public interest, (NEWS STORY) , and an audience to tell that message to (You Tube Channel). So by claiming that you are gathering content for a story as opposed to I do this for a hobby you are satisfying part of the SC ruling that a person just taking public photos as a hobby WAS NOT PROTECTED.
These guys are just like any other so called “auditors gathering content for a story.” They have no life and are just there to try and create a incident so they can post it in it on you tube.
I know you have heard this many many times, but I truely appreciate how you remain civil and respectful at all times (other than when needed that is). Not doing so is the number one complaint I have with some/many of these 'Internet Lawyers' giving people like you a bad name. Keep up the awesome work!
Internet layers? You mean like people who learn stuff to become informed about what our forefathers did to make rights inalienable? That's what the kids are doing. Getting pertinent info to be informed. How about you give it a try?
You're gonna have to get a box truck Jeff and set up a mobile class room to start schooling these "Law Enforcers" who evidently don't know the law.... how blatantly clueless they are EVERYWHERE you go
PLEASE go to the jail on that same road and educate them please!!! My soon to be husband, a disabled Vet, has been in that shitty little jail for 18 days. As of yet has had NO medical treatment for PTSD as soon as I try to find out when he will recive treatment or if the VA can come into the facility to treat him he gets cuffed and shackled and taken into an office with 4 jailers that threaten him to loose his mail, phone and visitation rights. I have had no phone call or mail in 3 days now, went to visit yesterday and low and behold he has no visita tion. They will not tell me why just there was an issue. VA was refused access to him. The VA dialed 911 and requested a welfare check on him and they were denied as well. The last phone call I recived from him he stated he was afraid for his life. Now we have no contact and I dont even want to think of what the jailer and his little friends have done to this man. Who do I contact to help Where do I start?
NinjaNomad a bus on wheels-now that’s a great idea! Education is wonderful. In all your getting-get understanding Proverbs 4:5 Acquire understanding = wisdom
+ROBERT KANIA I was there a few months ago, and I can assure you that it is indeed, a foreign country. If you ever go there watch out for the mountain people , and stay out of tall grass .
William Osdborne You would think the people recording us that day would actually not edit the video! My dash cam tells the whole story! It's sad that that these guys mislead there viewers and get off on trashing officers! Actually when I watch these guys videos it makes me wanna tell THESE COPS they are retarded! Video editing will make anyone look retarded if that's your agenda before the cameras start rolling!! I was a deputy over 5 years and I can honestly say that law enforcement is a job. With ALL jobs you have good employees and bad employees. COPS aren't perfect by any stretch... who is?? I put my life on the line for 5 years and enjoyed helping people thoroughly. The only reason I got out of law enforcement because I realized quick that your PASSION does not always pay the bills. I do not blame anyone for all these comments trashing us! I would totally agree with everyone if these videos actually depicted truth versus cut and paste BULL SHIT!!
Well being you are an officer can you tell me just why the jailers are allowed to shackle and cuff an inmate and threaten him to remove his privileges of mail calls and visits (which in fact has been done) because he is trying to get treatment for PTSD? Can you tell me why the VA has been denied access to their disabled veteran? can you tell me why he as of yet has not had a diet change to the proper foods needed to control his G6PD disorder? Can you tell me why his ex wife is allowed to treat him like shit and spend most of the sat morning visitation inside the lobby of the jail to make sure he didn't receive a visit? Can you tell me why yall listen in on the inmate phone calls and you have done nothing about the inmate telling me THREE times in that 15 minute phone call he is scared for his life but yet he can be thrown back there and no one allowed access to him not even the VA nor the persons who responded to the 911 call for a welfare check on said inmate? Can you answer them or do you need to "verify what your allowed to tell me" like your corrections officers at the jail. With that being said, let all of the officers know the next time I am in fact not committing a moving violation inside that town and get pulled over just because i expect that inmate to be cared for by his human and civil rights I will be the ones signing your pay check and trust me little boy in brown, it will not be handled through the Georgia Southern District Courts the way the 14 other Civil Rights cases have been over the past 5 years and thrown out within a month like the others. I am not one of these Georgia people who for one second think there is nothing that can be done to you because you have a shinny little tin badge. My rights nor will that inmate in that cells rights be violated by you or anyone in your across the way backwards ran county. Now, the judge that owns the probation office, please inform him I am coming to him next to find out exactly why a man, trained by the military or not, can strike a man who is as assaulting his wife in a public parking lot, can hit a man one (1) time and be placed on 10 years felony probation. Exactly why will this southern county in a state that holds one of the highest enlistment rates of the nations, refuses to allow the Veterans Courts to operate in your county? Every official complains about the high rate of inmates and the over crowding but yet will not allow a program that gets military the psychological help they need instead of being placed inside a cell. This town and the way it is ran is completely insane!
TWO K9 officers responded. What is not shown here is the dog "alerting" on the Smith v Cumming decision, certifying to the dog handler that photography is NOT a crime.
Found myself watching this again tonight, just wanted to say how much I respect Thomas the gentleman and can see how much respect you had for him also. Best wishes to his family from across the pond.
Nice job educating them on the law. They still believe that you can't film the prison without consent from them? Welcome to the first amendment Mr. Warden. Once again, Law Enforcement agencies that just don't know the Law they are upholding.
I am from Tn. Been in Ga rite at 4 years and its unbelievably insane dealing with the jail in Waycross. Everyone in that town almost is on probation, and now I know its because the Judge putting them on it actually owns the probation office!
Jeff and EOG should have never been approached in the first place if cops were trained properly. Those state employees have zero power outside the property.
+Doug Davis Here-Here ! I agree. But where is the training? It should be pretty simple. A meeting of all employees should be held with management, staff and administrative counsel. As it applies to their jobs, a document of U.S. Supreme Court and State Court rulings should be given to each employee and read out loud at the meeting. Time for questions and answers should be given. The employee should be required to sign, indicating that he/she received it, read it, understood it and questions were answered. It seems that the LEO's are led by people who do not understand law, or choose to ignore it. Ignorance of the law is no excuse. The U.S. Constitution and State statutes are not difficult to read and understand. Gayoon...
+Doug Davis EOG Here, This is the first one where we really tested for knowledge of statues concerning what we were doing, we may modify the format to letting them convict themselves first(You can't do this or you can't do that on video) before we drop the Federal Ruling bomb on them
“Can’t film the prison without authorization.” No. You can’t prohibit them filming without authorization. It would be prior restraint and would be issued by a judge.
Jeff I really enjoy your videos and so do the other 1st Amendment auditors who extend some serious props to you. Well done and keep up the important work of exposing the ignorance of people to think they know the law or who are paid to know it but don't.
Every now and then govt needs to be reminded that there are restrictions on what they can and cannot do. It's called the law. Thank you for your hard work and courage in holding govt accountable to the law.
It's a sad state of affairs when a person has to bring an appeal court opinion to educate law enforcement that it's within their civil rights to operate a camera from a public accessible place.
There was an over zealous DEA agent who entered on to a ranch I was working on one summer. He was flashing his badge to everyone and saying how it gave him the right to search and go wherever he wanted. The owner said That's fine but just stay out of the north forty of the ranch. The agent put the badge into his face as he ranted about his authority. A while latter we heard screams as the agent is running for his life from an enormous bull. The rancher threw down his tools and ran to the fence, climbed up so the agent could see him and yells "Your badge, show him your badge!" LOL
You guys both have a very calm, educated, and respectful way of explaining your rights.. I’m sure at times that means nothing to LEO but it should get you points with any cop who has an ounce of common sense.. great video
You have the right as a man, not only do I believe that but article 9 of the U.S. constitution reads that as well. Let's not forget that the government of agents have no rights, only authority. Rights supersede authority and power.
THIS is the way you educate the uninformed, I applaud you, Bravo good job, good video. You showed them the facts.You can't go against the facts, Period.
+jerry bushman I got a memo about the ruling of cummings v Smith; 11th circut court, which is a FEDERAL applelate, and it's been handed down in every federal jurisdiction in the U.S. These birds don't care about the rule of law. All they care about is YOU WILL FOLLOW MY COMMANDS OR I WILL SPLIT YOUR HEAD FROM STEM TO STERN OR I MIGHT JUST DRAW DOWN ON YOU AND KILL YOU WHERE YOU STAND. People, like some of these birds in this recording don't give a continintal d*** about the federsl laws. 12 15 15
I'm gonna give this to ya. THE CREW OK folks here’s how ya do this 1st Amendment Audit thing as far as I can see it. Gather up 5 or 6 friends with BALLS and NO FEAR that want to have some fun and possibly end up with a bunch of money for your efforts. Then gather up some money to purchase 7 good quality video cameras, with telephoto and steady cam imagery, with night vision if possible, 4 cell phones, 2 body cameras, with extra batteries for all cameras, 3 wireless mics and 2 audio headsets, a couple tripods, 3 wireless microphones, a parabolic microphone for long distance audio recording and plenty of SD cards for plenty of recorded video memory and 4 Voice Activated radio communications headsets works great too. You can whisper to each other to better stay informed. Your “Crew” may or may not have any experience at “driving a camera”, that means operating a camera under many different situations with excellent resulting video. For instance: standing still, walking slow, walking fast, running, holding a camera at different elevations and aiming cameras at different things you can’t see and you understanding what the camera sees even though you are not looking at the view finder. You don’t have to look at the view finder, the camera will see what you aim it at. If you’re good you’ll even get the necessary Light, Frame and Focus in these actions and positions without even thinking about it because it comes naturally. You want the best recording possible so proper Lighting of the subject matter is Very Important, Framing of the subject or item of interest is also Very Important and Focus of the well-lit area of interest, at night under a street light is as good as you’re going to get and Framed subject matter is Most Important with as little camera shaking and movement as possible. The Crew should watch a bunch of videos of cop block, Audit the Audit, Bay Area Transparency, Direct D, and other 1st Amendment Auditors videos, there’s a bunch of’em and any other confrontations with the cops that others have shot and posted. Critique their videos and make the driving of your camera skills better than theirs. Always remember, even in tricky situations, LIGHT, FRAME and FOCUS. I’ll say it again, ALWAYS REMEMBER TO KEEP THE ACTION COVERED, DON’T LOOSE ATTENTION OF WHAT YOU ARE DOING. THE CAMERA, REMEMBER THE CAMERA. LIGHT, FRAME, FOCUS. You may miss a split second of video that turns out the be very important. This next step may take some time but it is the most valuable and most important issue. Driving the camera. That’s camera operation. Get the Crew together and go out and practice walking, forward and backward, over your shoulder of what’s behind you, running, holding the camera at different angles, over your shoulder shooting backwards as you walk forward, like from behind a wall or fence with the camera as the only thing above the wall as you are hidden behind the wall. The camera will be hard to see but you may be easy to see. After practicing a dozen times or more, Watch the Playback and hone your camera driving skills to the point you are good at it and your Playback meets a certain criterion. Remember Light, Frame, Focus. You Tube viewers will appreciate a good quality video of the IDIOT getting the shit kicked out of him by the cops. When you think you have it down pretty good and you think you’re ready, formulate a plan. Pick a location for an exercise. Draw straws, flip a coin or do what you have to do to get a volunteer from your Crew to be the, for lack of a better term, “IDIOT”. That person will be the guy or girl? to go into harm's way. 4 or 5 of your Crew will get set up in different spots for the best camera angles of the chosen location. Someone should be aware of what you’re doing and be, for instance, at home, waiting for the phone call. Just a necessary precaution for the Crews benefit. A lawyer on retainer with his 24 hours phone number wouldn’t hurt, is a good thing to have ready too. Go get acquainted with a bail bondsman. Have one or 2 of them on retainer. Be sure to park any transportation you came in a few blocks away in a legal area away from the chosen location so it can’t be towed for being parked illegally, Male sure your vehicle has been cleaned inside and out of anything that can be construed as a weapon, dope, anything and wiped down of all finger prints. Better yet have someone drop you off like uber. Your 4 or 5 camera drivers will proceed to their assigned spots a few minutes before the fun begins. These are spots that are away from the location chosen and hidden as much as possible from view but not in a way or position that would cause an alert to be sent out to anyone for any reason. These “Spots” Must be Public Domain and Public Property and must be able to be seen from the chosen location and visa-versa. That’s the purpose of cameras with Tele-Foto zoom lenses. Be Sure to Put Black Electrical Tape over all the Camera Cue Lights. Ya’no those red flashing lights on the camera that shows you’re recording. Use cameras with nothing at all in the memory. No personal phones with any info in them. Everyone is in place, all equipment is working properly, radio checks thru the head sets, EVERYONE KNOWS TO STAY FOCUSED ON THE IDIOT. Roll Cameras, The IDIOT arrives and proceeds to do his or her thing which is shooting video/ pictures from a Public Domain/ Public Property area of whatever the camera/ person can see. Totally Legal activity of anything you can see from a public Domain/ Public Property area. At this point, I should mention that no matter what happens during the next critical time period the CREW should stay put. NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, STAY WHERE YOU ARE AND CONCENTRATE ON THE INSTANT ISSUE AND THAT IS SHOOTING THE VIDEO OF WHAT’S HAPPENING WITH THE INTERACTIONS OF THE COPS AND THAT IDIOT. Basically, the Crew should NEVER let anyone know of the CREW and the Crew should Never say anything except to the attorneys. When the authorities arrive, THE IDIOT, all wired up for wireless microphones as in 2, body cam and hand held cam, should be ready to stand his ground and be as antagonistically polite as possible within the boundaries of the law. If possible, know the state statutes that apply to your location, situation and get busy. The Idiot has the Constitution on his side so a 1st Amendment to freedom of speech means You can basically say Anything you want to the cops. And I mean ANYTHING. Each situation is different so basically keep your mouths shut, don’t even acknowledge their, the authorities, presents. They will do the rest. They will either be obliged to “Kick Rocks” or “Kick Idiot”. Remember the more you get the shit kicked out of you the more money they will have to bark up. Remember the cops/ authorities are Criminals, illiterate fools, jerks, assholes, Dumb-ed Down Americans, power hungry dick heads, Corrupt Gun Totting THUGS, and TYRANTS and they will prove it in their actions. Just wait, watch and see for yourself. The worse it gets the better for the IDIOT and the Crew. Who knows, The IDIOT, may end up with a broken leg, arm, ruptured spleen, broken ribs and punctured lung, pissing blood for a month, black eyes, broken jaw, ruptured ear drum, dick kneed up into yer asshole, concussion, contusions, second and third circumcision, but remember, You’ll get over all that when the check comes into your bank account. As the action plays out with the Idiot and the cops the Crew will just concentrate on the VIDEO and AUDIO action all the way to the end. That will be determined by the injuries to the Idiot. He will either get handcuffed to the gurney as he goes to the hospital of just cuffs into the back of the cop car spitting blood and his eye is hanging on his cheek. Long after the cops have lied in statements and police reports have been completed with misrepresentations and embellishments, and the Mayor and the Prosecutor all have made their false statements, embellished accounts to various news media. The Chief of Police or The Sheriff have made their BS Statements to the media. The cops have all slapped each other on the back a hundred times. Then the real story comes out thru the attorneys that represent the Idiot and Crew members. If and When you end up in court, little chance of that, cuz’a’outa court settlement will happen way before any trial happens, the verdict will be in Your Favor because the judge will have your 7 good quality video camera angles with excellent quality audio showing the TRUE COLORS OF LAW ENFORCEMENT. The best part is they brought it on themselves, luckily there were 7 cameras watching. Your attorneys will have a field day in court with the crew's good video and audio work. The cops, Criminals On Patrol, will get their just rewards by being dis-graced, fired, bad press for the dept, divorced from wife or husband, kids will hate daddy forever, illegal drug use and alcohol abuse follows, Jail and/or Prison, no more guns as they have been charged and convicted of a felony and hopefully Prison, or possibly Suicide. Good riddance to bad cops. If there was 10,000 Crews all around the country doing this in every major city, small towns, National Parks, and almost anywhere there are Gun totting law enforcement/ criminals on patrol and with insurance claims against the cops/ taxpayer in the hundreds of Millions of Dollars happening every week then the cops will be put in their place. Laws will change. Qualified Immunity disappears, The cops will be nice for a change. I still won’t trust them. COPS/ AUTHORITIES IN GENERAL ARE THE ENEMY OF THE CITIZENS/ PEOPLE.
+William Osdborne not always but this time the fact they had everything printed out and were able to leave them with it may have saved them a whole lot of arguing and hassle. it was just good that these were some laid back South GA fellas and it usually takes a pretty good bit to get them worked up.
Someone needs to start an occupy movement, only this time make the demands very clear. If you are going to enforce the law, you have to at least know it and follow it yourself.
You could just see it in their eyes, the "how can we make this illegal? There has to be a way, right?" look. Every cop that does that should get an automatic week in jail. It's legal, stop trying to squueze some BS thing in between to try and pretend it's illegal. That's crooked.
The older Gentleman with Jeff is a good guy! I like how he asserts himself about your rights an there not to be violated! He’s good one to have on your side!! Good video!
Like a deer in the headlights over a camera. Tells you all you need to know about whether or not there is something nefarious going on behind the fence.
The average educational level of a Correctional Officer is a little more than a High School Diploma. To hand these guys case law is more than they can handle.
Do these cops ever listen to the news or read a newspaper? They all act as though a Supreme Court decision is the most puzzling thing they've ever seen.
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you did this exactly right... this is what i have been saying all along ... carry and give the the law and they have no other choice but to obey it. but this would take the fun out of things for many, i say that is not the point of doing this. the point of doing it is to prevent unlawful acts these cops are instructed to do every day.. when informed properly they will normally obey the law and realize the instructions they were give is false
I was so hoping you'd ask them whether they had driver's licences because they ALL seemed to want to drive on the wrong side of the road forcing people to also have to drive on the wrong side of the road basically inviting/inciting crashes.
*looks like a few things are at play here, 1. they were a lot less hopped up like the people at the other facilities because you are in Rural Georgia where people don't usually get worked up unless there is a "REAL" reason to be (that's home for me so i am happy to see that much hasn't changed) and 2. though things weren't as they thought them to be, the fact that they hadn't been told anything any different and you showed them the ruling they were a lot more accepting of the fact that you were doing what you were on the public areas of that property. And maybe you're just getting a little better at speaking calmly with people as you get more practice at it. They didn't feel like you were being a total butt about what you were doing so they didn't have to get all defensive and try to run you off from there. Kudos* nice to see the one you did on my birthday in my home state went well for you :o) I'm actually from Middle GA, Warner Robins to be more precise.
This was 6 years ago when you were breaking ground on civil rights and still doing it today. Thanks Jeff. (And you late friend whose name I can’t remember right now.)
What's so strange is that the courts have determined that it unfettered recording is protected on any public property, but protest is not. (Protest is only protected in a "public forum," like sidewalks and parks.) So you can record in the lobby of a city hall, but you cannot protest there. Does it seem odd to anyone else that one first amendment right has more protection than another?
Although it appears they are ignorant of the law, at least they didn't try to browbeat you or Thomas. It appears more they were confused, especially when you cited and showed them the case law on it.
Just for what are the ‘photographs’ going to be used other than bait? Can you name the publication/magazine/etc that has your ‘gathered information for a story’ in it?
These videos make it extremely obvious that we have a lot of LEOs with badges, guns, tasers, who do not know the laws of our country or the U.S. Constitution. How can law enforcement officers protect & serve its citizens with such limited knowledge of their jobs?
