Thanks John! I'm so happy you wanted to do a video about my situation! Thanks for taking the time to highlight these officers and for including a bit about the trial!
I imagine it has something to do with the laws regarding recording private conversations. Some states require all parties in a conversation to consent to having the conversation recorded, while some only require one of the parties to consent. There are also the laws that require consent to use someone's image in media used for profit. It's understandable that many people would believe the same consent rules apply to any video or image captures, regardless of location or intended use.
Yet the fact that the NSA records them at all times )Public or Private) is okay bec😮they are “authorized”, don’t film me in public constitutionally but record me in private unconstitutionally unconstitutionally. Should be deported
@@JohnSmith-mh1mp Did I say you could? Did I even imply that? No. No I didn't. What I _actually_ posted was a thought on why people may believe they can refuse consent for being recorded in public. That's it.
just copypaste this into each audit video and we'll upvote it until it's top comment on them all. Seriously, just end it and watch the problems slowly but surely fade away..
This cop is literally working for that company. Saying things like “you’re not welcome here” and “you’re responsible for people losing their jobs”. And if cops are worried about the safety of the guy, arrest anyone who will harm him!
This cop is literally arguing the point that just because a business supports a town it’s excused from any responsibility or illegal activity. This cop is a criminal accomplice.
funny thing is: how actually closed the pig farm? It is not a congress man or a judge that physically shutdown a company, so I wonder what part of the goverment would do such a thing and how that relates to the profession of this public official specifically.
Most police are criminal accomplices. That is why it is fun to watch episodes on this channel where an officer comes in and straightens out a corrupt cop. A lot more efficient than waiting on the courts. Case in point: ~2 weeks later and the court system hasn't put a temporary stop to the criminal activity of this Sheriff's Department. At this point, maybe the judicial branch/judge needs to be added into the legal process to be cleaned.
WELL, ISN'T LAW ENFORCEMENT JUST A BUSINESS AT THIS POINT . LOOK AT ALL THE PETTY CRIMES THEY ARREST PEOPLE FOR JUST TO PAY BAIL OR BOND OR FINES OR PROBATION . AND WRITING TRAFFIC TICKETS . AND DUI CHECK POINTS . ITS ALL FOR MONEY .
That first cop - unbelievable! He blames this guy for Smithfield Food's wrongdoing. And the other cops - thinks anything a cop says is a "lawful" order - shouldn't a "lawful order" have a LAW behind it??
He doesn't blame the guy for the wrongdoing, he blames the guy for any misfortune that comes to Smithfield's because the guy shone a light on the wrongdoing. Still absolutely unbelievable and somehow even worse. I've never seen an officer so candidly express exactly what he was doing, this is gonna be a fucking slam dunk case.
Well the police department in this video seem to need officers so damn bad that they had to take a little old man with a beard and gave him a gun and no training at all as to what he could do or not do. But it's surprising how many police officers don't actually know the law that they're supposed to be enforcing or at least pretend like they don't know it
Yeah, I thought the same thing when cop said "lawful order." It goes to show that this cop doesn't think he's supposed to uphold actual codified laws but that what he says IS the law.
Officer: "We want to protect you from being hurt by the people who don't like you and your group!" Also Officer: "HEY GUYS! This is one of the guys who shut down our beloved company!"
I was in law enforcement for 30 years, and taught constitutional law in two police academies. I was amazed at how many young recruits thought their badges entitled them to infringe 1st Amendment rights. In fact we set up a role play exercise that was quite similar to this actual situation. In our scenario we had members of a religious sect handing out leaflets on a public sidewalk. About half the class would end up arresting our role players because in their minds, any order they gave must be lawful. Others just stood there dithering and calling for a supervisor. The interactions were videotaped. Then we went back inside where we discussed the correct response. We saved the most egregious video examples, and brought in a local civil rights attorney who told the class in each case how much he would sue or settle for based on their actions. I think we got the point across.
Cop didn't like what the guy had to say and used his "authority" to try to get him to leave. You're the guy that probably calls the school to complain about books in the library 😂
How is it that me, a citizen of a country half way around the world, still knows you can film any officer in public and it's legal. But the cop who's supposed to know the law (like he has 1 job, to know and enforce the law), doesn't know?
I know right? That is totally weird to have a law on the books in Utah saying an officer can remove you from a public place when it totally violates the first amendment
It's honestly refreshing to see police officers that are willing to admit that they work for corporate America, and not the people of the United States.
Is not that. It’s easy to judge those people in those town as ignorant. But you have to realize in that town there is not many employers close to them so that’s their food that’s how they survive. I get the freedom of speech deal but these “activist” don’t care about the town folks and that’s disgusting
Wow using the badge to retaliate on behalf of a company. He can film anyone from a public sidewalk. That older cop should be suspended at a minimum. Very inappropriate.
Do you think the ‘company’ put money into that pig’s pocket directly and said “psst hey go crack the skulls of protesters and ensure we keep making money” No actually I’m pretty sure the 2 pigs didn’t escape from the pig factory but they consciously and subconsciously know that their job isn’t to protect the constitution and the rights ensured to us Americans but instead to protect the wealthy and corporations from us peasants even breathing too close to them or risking their profit margin
It's reasonable for a state to want to protect industry and employment within the state, this is just the wrong way to go about it. What Utah needs to do is follow the lead of other states that have made trespass on agricultural land with the intent to engage in activism or political activity or to protect the rights of animals a class 1 felony so they can throw these people in prison for 20 years, not for filming and talking in public, but for felony trespass.
My dad was an accountant for a Smithfield plant for a moderately short period of time. He ended up quitting because of how crooked it was and the pressure he was receiving to “look the other way” at discrepancies and outright destroying proof of unsafe conditions/ changing numbers to better reflect a “more positive appearance for the company” from both facility admin/ company admin that oversaw the facility. Because of this, he quit as he did not want to be the scapegoat when the company inevitably blamed him for cooking the books as opposed to blaming themselves but he just told them he couldn’t do the drive anymore and left it at that. Within weeks of his quitting, the facility was shut down due to multiple fraudulent activities, including the ones he witnessed as well as others he didn’t and he missed having to go to court over it by days as the case only went back so far to show the crookedness happening even though he’d just quit a few weeks prior as there was so much evidence it wasn’t needed to go back farther than like 3 weeks. The main examples of what was happening that I remember him describing to me are how he would be at his desk and watch the food safety inspectors come into the facility to do their required inspection, hang out in the office the entire time and when he asked them if they would like him to escort him to the floor for the inspection, the guy said something like “that’s not necessary I just had to stay long enough to make it look like they actually inspected 😉” or how a man had cut his finger, bleeding into the machine that made hotdogs, and when the manager asked him to calculate how much it would cost them to properly shut down the line and clean as well as the cost of the lost product which had possibly come in contact with the blood/tissue, the manager said “oh that’s way too much no way in hell” then simply asked the employee “you have any diseases or anything that could get in those hotdogs?” and “do you need to get medical attention?” to which the employee said no to both so the manager made the call to just keep the line running and keep the incident quiet so he wouldn’t look bad for not meeting the production goals for the day (this was the final straw that caused him to leave) or how he would be asked to lie on paperwork stating how much water was added to hams prior to cooking so they could add POUNDS more water to the hams, which raised the sale cost since it’s per pound. Basically when you bought a ham from that facility, you could be paying for a ham that weighs anywhere from two to FIVE more pounds than the actual meat weight since they would inject up to FIVE TIMES the amount of water they were supposed to inject to ensure a moist ham with flavoring throughout.
Name of the Smithfield plant please? I would like to do some research on your claims I don't believe some of them but adding extra water in the meat come on now every abattoir in existence has been doing that for the past 100 years
He was an accountant, but how would he go and see anything else, would he count the animals or something. Two different jobs and two different buildings.
@@wholelottamiata6976 unfortunately some of or many of these morons will require a part down the middle of their scalps. Did I mention that I'm a former highly trained military sniper and if the balloon goes up (shit hits the fan.) I'll be on point.
The person "volunteering" to work for the government is also "volunteering" to be recorded while conducting activities as a "volunteer". People really are looney to a fault!
It was my understanding that, if you are in a *public* place, you can be recorded -- whether you like it or not. How else would security cameras be allowed to capture activity that occurs on public sidewalks and streets?
@@eponymousIme The concept has nothing to do with cameras. It has to do with an expectation of privacy. You’re in full view of people. That means you can’t expect any protection of privacy.
These officers wants to enforce feelings, not enforce laws. He thinks he's an FEO. And they have no idea what country they're living in nor what this country was founded on.
I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔 If true, then it would seem Woolsey was acting based on his own personal beliefs / bias which would seem to indicate "Bad Faith Actions" were undertaken adding support to the civil case that a Pre-Existing Bias resulted in a possible conflict of interest that violated "under the color of law" guidelines pertaining to personal beliefs effecting performance in a discriminatory manner.
an officer saying 'I don't care about the intent.' is one of the scariest things a 'law enforcement officer' can say. Edit: The only reason why these law enforcement officers did anything is because they don't agree with the protest.
I disagree. The officer has every right to personally disagree with the politics of the other. He also can actively work to stop the group from advancing their agenda in the area. However, he can’t do those things while in uniform and/or on duty. He needs to keep his personal politics separate from his police work, but it’s not reasonable to say cops can’t have strong political opinions if they are public servants.
@@petershury7135 how could they be politically neutral when their entire job is enforcing the status quo? They work for the government so their job and actions are political in nature. However, they should only be enforcing the community’s policies, not their own agendas. They have to follow and enforce the law, even though they are allowed to disagree with it personally. It’s only the ones who can’t do that who shouldn’t be cops.
I agree the cop was an asshole, but I don't recall him saying anything at all about protecting Smithfield. He repeatedly mentioned the county's residents who worked for Smithfield. Agree with the activist's beliefs and opinions or not, if Smithfield shuts down that Beaver County facility, it will have a serious negative impact on _everyone_ in the county...including the activist. I'm not saying the activist(s) should or shouldn't do what they're doing; it's their right, and I will always support those rights. That doesn't mean the cop, despite his egregious abuse of his authority, was defending the company.
@@frocat5163 are you completely unaware that these tactics are the same ones politicians use to justify why they and their corporate buddies need several mansions, private jets, yachts, other fancy luxury goods, and billions of dollars in cash and assets? they always twist it and say things to make it seem like they're in the interest of the people but really they're only interested in keeping the status quo and all the money and power going to themselves.
Thank you Curtis Vollmer and DXE for the very necessary and brave work you are doing. You are right in the face of the most outrageous injustice, yet you persevere and continue to advocate and take action for the innocent victims whose suffering, law enforcement, the greedy vile Animal Ag industry and Governments are doing all they can to shamefully hide. You have support around the globe. Thank you again.
Why do police say "this is a lawful order" knowing full well they are on multiple cameras? Also knowing it was never even remotely a lawful order. It boggles the mind.
It's just an attempted powerplay. There are cops out there who do get off on the legal authority or presence they have in public, in addition to the intimidation factor they have on minorities. That older police officer is clearly one of those people. It was being pretty transparent about public intimidation attempts. As we watch these videos that feed in to the outrage culture, let's not forget there are cops out there who do not do any of the beforementioned things.
The older cops, generally, have gotten away with this nonsense for so long they tend to forget people know more of their rights now and continue to violate rights.
Also, he shouldn't be using his *personal* phone camera! Every police academy in this country should use this clip to demonstrate what bottom-of-the-barrel, ignorant, violative policing looks like.
@@robertshallington6225 When he approached the guy, "he believed he was doing his job," right? So he should have turned it on. Don't make excuses for them not doing their job, correctly.
The only way to stop the “Feelings Police” from confusing their job as LEOs with “serving their community” is to strip them of qualified immunity and make them very public examples of how NOT to perform their duties. These two deputies should be promptly investigated and terminated. The old sergeant is probably at or close to retirement age anyway and is clearly a liability to the county’s taxpayers.
Qualified immunity doesn’t protect officers in cases like this, where they are blatantly violating constitutional rights. It only protects them from accidental liability.
Yeah, that cop's use of "lawful order" shows that he thinks him just ordering something makes it lawful. Guess what, cop, there are actual laws, that have nothing to do with how you feel, that you're sworn to enforce.
@@flipnotrab yes, and no. They are not legally binding beyond a civil agreement. Giving him the wrong order is not a criminal offense, but I suspect he would treat it as such. “These are powdered donuts! I ordered glazed! You are under arrest.”
I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔
The Sgt first stated that residents were upset and don’t want him there because they all lost their jobs. He then goes on to tell everybody ‘this is the guy shutting it down’. If this isn’t an attempt to incite hate and violence I don’t know what is.
Just because the plant isn't closed doesn't mean they haven't laid off staff while they're investigating or making repairs or making decisions to keep the plant open. More and more just easier for companies to take their bushes to other countries and import the product to the US then grow it here.
@@gnitsaf It was more a comment on your inability to type a coherent sentence and the rambling, nonsensical nature of your argument, rather than the premise of corporate production relocation.
When citizens unknowingly (or even knowingly break the law) we’re told, “Ignorance of the law is no excuse!”. Yet when the police, whose job it is to KNOW and enforce the law, don’t actually know the law or know it but still ignore it, they almost always get a pass, a slap on the wrist, or “more training”. Why can’t we citizens get the same luxuries and instead of getting arrested or fined thousands of dollars get some “more training” on the laws we were unaware of or even the ones we were aware of and ignored?! 🤔
No no, there starting to hang those cops as we should. We are getting somewhere atleast unlike school shootings. Action taken :" let's all pray it doesn't happen again guys"
"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" as a baseline thought is bonkers. I understand we can't just allow people off the hook because then everyone claims ignorance, but... The idea that people who have real lives and jobs and stuff have time to sit around studying law is comical. There are some basic things we learn/pick up over time through socialization and that's what the vast majority of people operate on.
@@queensharkeisha4479 that you accept we don't know our rights and don't have time to know makes you the evidence of educated-ignorance, the phenomenon happening to multitudes. Thank your board of education.
And no one needs permission to take pictures or film in public. Idk how many times males have taken a pic of me against my will and there is NOTHING I can do about it. It's ok for guys to do it to women but no ok for vice versa. I hate men.
The younger cop was a little smarter and tried to turn it into a safety issue. But the irony is there was no safety issue but the older cop was antagonizing people with his counter protesting to create a safety issue.
@First Last The DA is going to side with the cop in this instance, they can fight this issue in federal court but they will get zero support at the state or local level and if they so much as jaywalk in this town they can expect to DA to throw the book at them.
Wether you agree or disagree with what the guy is doing he still has the right to ask anyone questions on a public sidewalk. He hasn't broken any laws. Cops need to get off their high horse and start doing what they were hired to do. Enforce the law as its written and not violate people's rights. I know I'm asking too much.
Brother don’t you know upholding the constitution isn’t their job even though that’s what they claim ? Their job is to ensure the wealthy are safe and profits keep flowing anything besides that is PR to have people think they work for the people
I completely disagree with the protester and think he is hurting a community, but 100% he has the right to stand on a sidewalk talk about his message and hand out literature. If the old cop was a normal citizen and told this guy what for I would have loved it but in an official capacity the police shouldn't voice personal opinions or infringe on the rights of people they disagree with.
I'd just about upgrade their grade to a D for so perfectly documenting their illegall intent. I'd give em a C if they came out and said they were being directly financially influenced, heck those volunteers are probably on a certain companies payroll.
@@JonathanEvans73 Oh, it's obvious they're being financially influenced. He said it straight out that "the company" doesn't like these people being around. Company towns are like that - even if they're being mistreated, everyone will rally around "the company" because they're terrified of losing their s****y jobs.
The way he pointed at him and started to shout at people passing by going "This is the guy who cost you your workplace". You could argue that he wanted to cause harm instead of protecting. What if some passerby got angry and attacked because of the words of the officer?
@@ctakitimu Yeah. But the damage award would be astronomical! THAT clip would have made national news and Beaver County would have a major PR problem on its hands.
It's exactly these decades, which give them false confidence. And let's be serious, many just go away after they say things like these and they are probably successful with it.
I guess I didn’t realize that a company employing a lot of people in a specific area means they are protected from any crime or immoral action they might undertake. What a concept!
Well... what immoral action did they undertake? All I know is the officer said the activists caused many people to lose their jobs. In a small town like that, that could very well mean losing their house. One can argue that if a few animals are mistreated, but billions of humans are fed for affordable prices... then that is the most moral system until someone figures out something better. So ruining the lives of middle class people in a small town is pretty bad in my opinion.
@@jupitercyclops6521 2:30 he states why he is upset. Unless you can read the officers mind and know he is lying, then you can't make the claim the officer was worried about the citizens.
I sat in a courtroom where the judge said to the court that "the police don't know the law." I agree. This is why so many of them are being fired and sued.
@@GhettoMazzo Well, keeping livestock in humane conditions requires a workforce just like keeping them in inhumane conditions does. So, I'm not sure how requiring basic standards of animal welfare causes job losses. If the company in this case had to shut down because it was not compliant then, yes, it is on the company, not the people who exposed them.
@@GhettoMazzo The same way they always do: Pick up some food with whatever utensils are lying around and put it in their mouths. Don't forgot to chew 20 times and then swallow.
You gotta love it. The first cop starts telling people as they walk by that these are the guys trying to shut down the major town employer trying to rally them to get angry. The second cop tries to argue that they are telling them to leave because they are concerned for these men’s safety?! It’s incredible that people who are so completely ignorant as to the rights of citizens are given the tremendous responsibility of enforcing the laws and protecting those rights!
Welcome to the point where you get people who only uphold the law as they see fit and will lie and use their qualified immunity to pervert the course of justice, you can say it ain't so but judging by the video's that have been uploaded a lot of the LEO's employed through out the various PD's in the US are not fit to wear a uniform hold a badge and do their job.
@@grablefamilyvideos8831 . I have a feeling that the judges in this town allow this kind of behavior by Jack booted thugs, particularly when it helps fill their coffers. It probably will need to go to appeals court to be handled fairly, then again, it’s Utah.
"companies that do terrible things should be allowed to keep doing those things because they employ people who need jobs" is just a terrible argument in general
@@tag_of_frank Doing it while abusing animals is though. You can't seriously be here arguing for "the ends justify the means". You don't have to abuse animals for food --> its a terrible thing to do. You'r argument is shit - one could also say "how could nazis be terrible, giving jobs to thousands of germans isn't a terrible thing" while ignoring that the jobs included building concentration camps and gas chambers.
Sergeant: "Don't talk to him, he's trying to shut down smithfield" So the cop is participating in activism while in uniform? Isn't that against regulations?
Yes. That was covered in the video. And not only that, but that dumbass cop was also denying the public THEIR 1st amendment rights to hear someone else's speech by telling people (while he was in uniform) not to listen to the guy handing out info. He was also blocking the sidewalk during this whole interaction -- which is supremely ironic, because that's the first rule of leafletting: don't block entrances or pathways!
Yeah bad cop, good cop routine to shut down his rights to speech due to their personal feelings and ultimately leading to breaking laws themselves. These police need training.
"Causing a disturbance in the community." "He's asking you nicely." In Utah, EVERYONE is guilty of disorderly conduct. That law is trash, utter tyrannical bilge.
@@keinlieb3818 Maybe not written into the law but the Mormon community will absolutely close ranks to protect their own, lighter sentences, more lenient interactions with officers, etc.
The cops here are completely and massively out of line. What they are doing is wrong, ill founded, rude, and if it's legal it should not be. However... You knew that was coming, right? The protestor is protesting in front of the front gate of a festival dedicated to the thing he is protesting. It's why he chose that spot. This very channel has often pointed out that SCOTUS has numerous times upheld time--place-and-manner restrictions on speech. Such restrictions have frequently been enforced by SCOTUS. For example, anti-abortion protestors with their abortion-on-a-plate pictures have been prohibited from camping outside abortion clinics. The cops are completely in the right to move him along. They went about it totally incorrectly, letting their emotions run things instead of sticking to the law. It makes one wonder what else they let their emotions run. But moving this ant away from the picnic is valid and reasonable. For example, placing him 100 yards down the sidewalk would be reasonable.
I mean I'm embarrassed to admit it, but the dumber the officers act, the more I enjoy the videos. For some reason them getting publicly ridiculed is both satisfying and makes me feel terrible for liking it.
You generally only get treated like this when you hold your ground. It’s basically like an argument in Walmart except you have to listen to the other person and can’t walk away or else they’ll be able to tackle you and kidnap you with no repercussions
The police are there to enact the will of the people, they live there in that community, half the town works for Smithfield factory, the town doesn't want them there, the people of the community do not want those scumbag protesters protesting their livelihood. The people of Beaver Utah have recently voted to make it legal to run over the protesters if they block the entrance to the factory, the people want the scumbags dead.
I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔
@@tombarnes8527 70% of Beaver Utah works there, it's a small town with a big factory. Police are there to represent the people, the people including those cops don't want those protesters fucking with their business. The people of Beaver Utah have recently voted to make it legal to run over the protesters if they block the entrance to the factory. There's a video on RU-vid of a protester lady getting run over and killed by one of the pig trucks. This is one of those situations where I don't give a fuck what the cops did, those protesters are scum and they need to be stopped. I have no sympathy for those pieces of shit.
The best part is, by acting like buffoons and trying to silence the guy, now they've put a huge spotlight on his cause. I guess they've never heard of the Streisand Effect.
@@alexsdemkin The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet
Maybe it's just me but maybe that "buffoon" was trying in his own misguided way, trying to save this guy's life? His "company" is already hated and all it takes are a couple of idiots to jump him while the police either ignore it or don't intervene. Yes, just like the AntQueffa crowd in portland who were harassing people and the police did nothing to stop it. Yeah yeah.. the cops were being aholes, wrong, etc.. but they could have just left the area and let nature take its course of dealing with a troll.
I'm not even 3 minutes in and this is one of the most disgusting things I've ever witnessed. We have a cop abusing his station to bully someone off of public property because of his own personal opinion and feelings. I'll admit I'm unfamiliar with how the law views handing out fliers on a sidewalk, but its a truly dystopian society indeed that would punish an individual for doing that
I just said the same thing. not even 2 and a half min. and this stupid cop talking about his feelings people losing their jobs. that's not his problem, but it's stupid cops like him that will falsify an arrest and cost you your job!
Right I'm furiouse. Wish I was there id be all over them telling them hiw stupud an wrong they are. I really hope he takes them to court. They gonna look dumb.
I firmly believe this is caused by the "Warrior Culture" imbued to most of these police departments. These officers, who see themselves as the guardians of social order, come to believe that, since they are GUARDIANS of social order, they must also necessarily be ARBITERS of social order. That anything that makes them uncomfortable must necessarily be evil, and must therefore be expunged, violently if necessary. THAT is the true dystopia, if I'm right.
1. recording in a public place and anything within public view is 100% legal even if it isn't a public servant. 2. Literal Government censorship (even if what he is doing isn't approved by his department he still represents them, and as a government entity his actions are their actions)
This is what happens when a HUGE corporation like Smithfield, is in a small community and employ a good chunk of the town. They think they own everything and the police work for the company.
In a way they do. The company pays county and city taxes. The taxes pay the cops. So if an idiot is trying to remove your source of income wouldn’t you be a little pissed off at him.
@@toka100 if I had to guess, the county/city give this corporation huge tax incentives/breaks to operate there and employ people. There are many examples of this, the most recent one was Amazon. Cities all over the country submitting bids and waiving taxes so Amazon comes to their city. Corporations aren’t people. Cops are mad at the wrong person. Smithfield god exposed to doing the wrong thing, why blame the people who exposed it and not the company that’s doing the wrong thing?
@@reathelmort Basically yeah. Smithfield is owned by a large multi national company in Hong Kong. Until recently Hong Kong had a lot of autonomy and wasn't fully controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. I think things have changed and the CCP now has more control. It is my understanding that the CCP is a partial owner of all "private" businesses in China. I don't know if that also includes Hong Kong.
@@sethfroman7044 so what did Smithfield do? I admit I didn’t watch the entire video to see if more was explained at the end. I do have my guesses at what it is. Mostly having to do with the California regulation on pork confinement. Which is stupid if you have even been around something other then a pot belly pig. For one. The sow can and will kill and eat the piglets if allowed room. Two. You get the possessive sow. That will take you hand off if the piglet squeals too much when you are picking it up. I’m sure the guy that stole the piglet would have sued if he lost a hand in a California spec containment. No I don’t work for Smithfield. I actually work for a rival beef plant. I can tell you that the “all natural” beef cattle are very sickly looking compared to regularly vaccinated and controlled beef. I saw one with a giant growth on its back. Ever seen the plane with the giant disk on top. That’s what it reminded me of. Since it was a “natural” it was left alone. They just puncture it after the steer was knocked and sent it down the rail. Sometimes it’s better not knowing where things come from.
These officers just brought a lawsuit onto their community that will be paid by the tax payers, not the officers violating civil rights. Way to go, officer. Nothing like causing stress on your community, right officer?
Normally nothing would happen but this is a clear violation and if the person filming goes through with the lawsuit as stated above the city will have to use taxpayer dollars to pay for the suit and judgement which then most likely results in discipline for these officers. I'd be SHOCKED if the volunteer keeps his badge but I've seen more egregious things happen
@@MultiFlash4 You can search on google for "Vollmar vs Beaver County" and you will find numerous articles. Basically they stated that the park was property of the church and therefore not public. You'll also find out he settled the case against the cops for 52k.
As a retired LEO and administrator, I can tell you the actions of these deputies was just wrong on all accounts. Someone forgot to inform them that their duties included enforcing and obeying the law and upholding and defending the Constitution. They are not there to act as personal security force and they are supposed to behave objectively.
The roots of the nation were brushed under the carpet and suppression mechanism put in place and buiit on, so naturally eventually those would exhaust themselves and then everything reverts to where it all started - robber barons and their police force, founded as enforcers against dissenters.
See you are under the assumption they aren't told they are their to protect corporate interests, and that they will be shielded from consequences as long as they are.
Man, those cops look so rattled and triggered. They've never had anyone stand up to them before and they don't know how to react. It's just pure adrenaline and fear.
My guess is the older cop probably had a family member to lose their jobs as that company downsize. Ultimately though it was the place of the people who were losing their jobs, if that was the true story, to come deal with the guy rather than the police. The police first and foremost should stay out of politics, even in the event of violence breaking out between political factions.
Small technicality, and I truly don't mean any offense! But we are actually a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. In a Democracy, all it would take is 50.1% of the populace to vote that, for instance, "hate speech" is punishable as a real crime (like in Canada and parts of Europe). But in a Constitutional Republic in which that founding Constitution explicitly acknowledges that We the People are endowed by our Creator the RIGHT to free speech, then this conduct becomes all the more demagogic and terrifying.
@@Drillbitayler You're describing a direct democracy, which is one form of democratic government, a constitutional republic is another form of democratic government.
This cop really seems to have a broad and deep misunderstanding of the law. The plant's business is in jeopardy because they broke the law, not because this guy was handing out brochures on a street corner. The man handing out brochures is not breaking any laws but cops violating the Constitution is illegal. This cop seems to be from upsidedown world.
Some places have no economy. They know the employer is breaking the law . But if they get fined and put out of business everyone loses their jobs and the town collapses . Look up the creation of the asbestos laws in North America if you want to see a true lot awful and twisted mess
a LOT seems "upsidedown" of late ! 😖 'morning joe' quotes Albert Einstein, after fleeing nazi germany and later encountering 'mericah's mccarthyism, he feared it was "happening again," but later concludes democracy... eventually... is like a self-righting ship. Here's Hoping ! B-)
HOW……..how the heck do they make it this far in their career having such little understanding of the law? That’s like hiring a janitor to play the role of a dentist. What is wrong with these people?? They need to be fired. And whoever hired these armed thugs needs to be fired as well.
If you had ever been to Beaver, Utah, you would understand. Beaver makes Mayberry look sophisticated, and these Bozo cops make Barney Fife look like Elliot Ness.
About a month after the animal rights activists settled their civil rights lawsuit for $52,000 (four months after the incident at the park), Beaver County officials amended their original "disorderly conduct" charges to include criminal trespassing in retaliation. They (obviously) claim that it wasn't retaliation, but rather that they simply forgot to add it originally due to a "clerical error." They also cited a bunch of supposed "callers" who claimed that Vollmar was harassing them, including a "very small child." Unfortunately, a Utah Judge ultimately convicted Curtis Vollmar with both disorderly conduct and criminal trespassing. Mr. Vollmar plans to appeal.
As someone who grew up in near this community with a Dad who bounced in and out of the pig barns they used to run down here, the conditions where absolutely horrid like, I understand agriculture work, my Grandpa did Hay for the other husbandry farms around the place like the Beaver Milk Farms, but the pig barns were mass filth, shit on all the pigs and they simply ate and shit and had like 1-2cm within each animal packed like 35-40 per pen. Mass industrial processing that was completely inhumane, every single pig was screaming at the top of it's lungs until it fell asleep, died from it's guts exploding from eating too much, or just disease breakouts. There must be a better, more sustainable form of job that can be made then those fucking awful pig farms. To just mindless blame any attempt to expose how horrible the conditions are as simply trying to destroy the community fundamentally misunderstands how much better everyone in the community deserves in terms of livelihood and job quality and those pig barns were not it.
Well what is the solution that is both sustainable and practical? Just because "morally" there SHOULD be a better way, it doesn't mean "logically" that there IS a better way. Sadly, god isn't real so the world doesn't have a sky daddy to provide for us. Sadly utopias don't exist so we have to pick the lesser of evils rather than assume everything is good and just. This means you have to be on one of 3 sides. 1. Environmentalists side, screw the human race, be willing to kill half of us off to "fix" all the problems we cause. 2. Practical side, realize that conditions for our food sources to feed the sheer amount of humans we have isn't going to pretty. 3. Fantasy side, condemn the factory farms, but also condemn the environmentalists because you realize their end goal is the extinction of the human race and hope god fixes things for us. 4. Pretend these conditions don't exist (most people) I may not like the communist party of China as no auditor could possibly love that authoritarian police state, but the Chinese people are innocent of the actions of their government. If we removed all factory pig farms in the world, I promise you there would be mass starvation in at least in China. There factory farms are even worse than what we have in America as they are the number 1 eaters of pork in the world.
These cops are unknowingly serving their corporate overlords, kind of how people think because they support cops, the cops will support them, til they find out otherwise.
@@jfast8256 Saying environmentalists don't care about the human race simply makes you look like an absolute imbecile and tool. Also, you say you have to be on one of three sides, then you provide a fourth and say most people are on it. Nevermind, I take it back. There is plenty here to imply how ignorant you are.
@@jwspeakman2961 Without nutrient deficiencies which will lead to disease without a multi-trillion dollar supplement market as the entire world of omnivores shifts over to a diet away from nutrients we require because evolution made us this way?
The Beaver County sheriff and deputies ordered them to stop and to leave, the activists later said in a federal civil rights lawsuit - and the county is now settling that case by paying them $52,000 plus their attorney fees. Aug 15, 2023
Yeah, I loved that lame argument -- stating that people could become so agitated in their disagreement as to pose a threat of harm to the guy holding leaflets. My response would have been, "Well, if that's the case, and you suspect people of being likely to break the law and cause harm, then you should be directing your attention to THEM instead of to me, since I'm just peacefully handing out leaflets as is my First Amendment right."
@@Triro All that's needed is to just remove the immunity. Any cop that cant work on that basis would be welcome to leave. Then any police force that refused to accept it, can be replaced with those that will. ..
How people don't realize why faith in our institutions is at an all time low, here it is. Instead of being the counterparty to actions outside public interest they are enforcers for it.
The corruption in Beaver's city government is on full display at 15:46. Please, notice the condition of the brand new public sidewalk. That sidewalk is no accident.
The reason why there can never be a second French Revolution is because the wealthy are protected by the highly militarized fascist pigs with APCs/tanks and if we were to even try the collective skulls of all human/animal rights activists would be pulverized by domestic drones and warrantless wide net surveillance so instead of the 2nd FR we blind ourselves with chicken tendies, SUVs, and Keeping Up With the Kardashians while we down bottle after bottle of Vicodin and Prozac and then wonder why nothing’s changing
The cop basically admitted that he was there to act as an enforcement arm for a a corporation employing local citizens and that he believed it was reason enough to limit this mans free speech.
I once thought this and was bullied and abused for it instead of kindly educated about it. That was traumatizing. The amount of people who can’t be civil is just as staggering as the amount of people who don’t know the law.
What you said is exactly, in a nutshell, what America is *supposed* to be about. Sad to say, we're slipping away from it into a love and acceptance of authoritarianism.
There's no "law" in North America. You've all lied to your citizen/slaves over there. Contract makes the law over there. Contract is law and law is contract. Also, all of the states in North America are private for profit corporations doing business as government. All of them have registered Dun & Bradstreet Numbers. So, all of the so called "laws" are nothing more than corporate by-laws. The lies and deception need to stop.
You don't like what he says because it exposes crooks with badges who don't even remember the oath they take nor do they study the constitution. They would avoid lawsuits if the deception of protect and serve was corrected to we violate your rights and take your tax dollars to keep our corporate business funded. Cops don't protect us they look for ways to arrest and convict people for the sake of tax revenue and protecting political criminals with badges
“When someone wants you to stop exercising your rights because it ‘rubs salt in their community’s wounds’, it is a lawful order that you must stop your legal activity in order to prioritize their feelings.” 🤣. Oh dear, those officers are so incredibly uneducated, poorly trained, and lack any reasonable discernment or reasoning, not to mention unethical and tyrannical.
Actually, that was the point at which the Police Officer's job had been done. He'd given the guy a time and place safety warning. Had he kept his opinion out of it, he could have done this in the first 10 seconds: Just walk up and tell the guy that he's aggravating an aggrieved community and that he doesn't qualify for police protection. Done. Finished. Lunch time. Everything else that came out of his mouth made it very clear that he wasn't a cop and had stolen the uniform.
What an absolute embarrassment for this department. Zero comprehension of what they can/can't do, not even a basic understanding of laws and rights. Terrifying.
I wonder how closed down the pig farm, when local law enforcement thinks that employment is of higher public interest then hygiene and law enforcement.
It truly is. They don’t allow this guy to talk to people on a PUBLIC sidewalk but when missionaries go on private property to talk to people it’s okay, lol
Wow, the list of unlawful orders these officers gave is staggering… 1. Ordering the citizen to remove himself from demonstrating on a public sidewalk - 1st Amendment violation 2. Threatening the civilian with disorderly conduct for filming a volunteer officer against his permission - 1st Amendment violation 3. Engaging in politically motivated retaliation against the civilian’s speech - 1st Amendment violation and an egregious violation of that officer’s Code of Conduct 4. Citing the civilian with disorderly conduct anyway, despite not doing anything illegal - 1st Amendment violation Unfortunately for the taxpayers of that community, they are going to be paying bank to this guy for the complete ineptitude of their officers…and I’m willing to bet the family farm that those officers will probably still have their jobs even after this guy wins his lawsuit…even though it was their actions that were highly illegal in the first place. I guarantee you if you take away qualified immunity, a lot of these officers would think twice about their actions. While I understand why qualified immunity exists, the fact of the matter is more officers abuse it than it protects officers. They illegally and nefariously abuse law-abiding citizens because they know qualified immunity will protect them at the end of the day. I guarantee you that abolishing qualified immunity will also drastically reduce the amount of police brutality cases…a prevalent issue with law enforcement in the US.
I for one do not understand why qualified immunity exists. It's a bullschiesse idea that has no place in a civilized society. Do what needs doing and TAKE THE LUMPS - that's what the job IS. If they don't want to deal with the consequences of their actions, lawful or not, they shouldn't be cops in the first place.
You forgot: Potential criminal inciting to riot by attempting to alert other civilians/citizens with yelling, "This guy is trying to get Smithville shut down!" That's actually quite the doozy, because while it's not likely at all to stick (although tell me if that cop wasn't trying to incite the crowd/mob against him in some manner), that's a potential felony. *18 USC 2102* _(a) As used in this chapter, the term “riot” means a public disturbance involving (1) an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons, which act or acts shall constitute a clear and present danger of, or shall result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual or (2) a threat or threats of the commission of an act or acts of violence by one or more persons part of an assemblage of three or more persons having, individually or collectively, the ability of immediate execution of such threat or threats, where the performance of the threatened act or acts of violence would constitute a clear and present danger of, or would result in, damage or injury to the property of any other person or to the person of any other individual._ _(b) As used in this chapter, the term “to incite a riot”, or “to organize, promote, encourage, participate in, or carry on a riot”, includes, but is not limited to, urging or instigating other persons to riot, but shall not be deemed to mean the mere oral or written (1) advocacy of ideas or (2) expression of belief, not involving advocacy of any act or acts of violence or assertion of the rightness of, or the right to commit, any such act or acts._
Even if it werent a public place, these Police officers are public servants. While on the clock, anybody can film them anywhere, at any time. I hate being told that I dont have rights when it comes to things Im being _forced_ to pay for.
@@SvendleBerries The guy making the claim wasn't a police officer. He was a volunteer who I believe was working for the local event staff. Still, if cops can fly drones over my back yard and I don't have an expectation of privacy there, this guy doesn't get it at a very public event he volunteered to be at.
@@Chadok89 if they carried liability insurance and had to pay for it themselves and you could sue them INDIVIDUALLY on top of the department, OH HELL YEA, THEYD WATCH WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY HANDLE THE PUBLIC AND ‘EVERY’ SITUATION….THATS CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY.
If cops were required to have insurance and be personally liable for monetary damages awarded, this channel would have to shut down overnight. Instead they protect themselves, protected by the unions, and protected by the law itself to abuse their power and held to a LOWER standard than the general public for actually knowing the law and engaging in illegal activity.
I'm finding it very hard to believe that local governments aren't knowingly putting law enforcement officials out on the streets with this kind of behavior? These cops must be costing tax payers throughout this country billions?
3:35 "We're giving you a lawful order to not do that" 100% pure nonsense. It's sad, and scary how many cops things that telling someone something means its automatically a lawful order.
You can record others in public. However when I private citizen says stop failure to do so constitutes disturbing the peace. So when your camera gets slapped or you get the shit slapped out you that person is in their right.
335 is not nonsense. Recording a private person is a crime when that private person objects. There for ordering a criminal to stop commiting a crime is legal. Duh. The easiest thing for the officers to do would ask the private person would you like to press charges. Person "yes officer I would" hey asz hole your under arrest for disturbing the peace. Turn around click click.
@@letsgetbrandon That only applies in a private place. Out on the street there's no expectation of privacy. This is just a case of a public servant not wanting to be held accountable for his bad behaviour.
@@letsgetbrandon Really? You’re really gonna go with that? I’m sure that there are dozens of auditors that will gladly meet you anytime anywhere to prove you wrong. Any cops that you conspire with to stifle their first amendment right to film in public can split the judgement you’re going to pay!
Easily could’ve happened. Only would have taken the cop saying that to a guy who had been laid off from the plant, and the former plant employee could’ve done anything to the protestor. Sickening display from these piggies.
Absolutely could have, and it would be wrong for any person to incite violence against another, but especially egregious using their perceived and real authority as law officers.
