Classic Concentration - On the Buzzer? (Sep. 8, 1987) 

No he didn't get it after the buzzer darn it

The judge was being an asshole.

​@williamjefferson6234 tough job. but gotta be fair. I guess based on Alex's explanation rules say it the clock is what counts not the sound effects person being late on the buzzer.

​@@williamjefferson6234he said 14 after the buzzer

But the clock was at zero before he said 14. So it wasn't in time​@@LittleRockElevators

Well

I guess that was so she'd be ready in case they called it a win.

Only if Super Password's buzzer was automatic.

@@PowerRangersandAnimeUnite IINM, SP did use an automatic buzzer.

Andrew Schroy Exactly my point.

Pyramid and SOTC would’ve said no as well as the time went to 00 before he made his choice

You're probably right. Even though both shows were Mark Goodson productions, they must not have had the same judges. On Super Password, there was an incident in the end game where the buzzer, which was automatic, clearly rang out (and the clock reached 00) before the contestant said the final word, "INN". The judges threw the decision to Bert Convy (could they even do that?), and he chose to award her the $20,000 that was at stake.

Not after the buzzers

Exactly! That's what makes the 8th car a Red Herring.

C’mon tiller that was a clear no

@@namk19 he got screwed

Louis, it was an obvious no

@@louistenore2185 Yea they got screwed. Beat the buzzer has always been the rule. Not the contestants fault the game operator was a bit late. Seen this on other shows from NBC including Super Password that also went on buzzer and would win on that not the clock.

@@PackinStackin Only if the buzzer was automatic. But it was manual back then, so go by the clock, or not at all.

I know but he was under the pressure at the time

@@rush5rider Sh** happens sometimes.

Rules are rules. I get that it's against the house, but I'd want to know everyone, including myself, gets a fair shake. Especially when, at this point, bonus time was set regardless of how many times you yourself are up there.

And nobody is gonna declare a technical win.

@@Naminski1a we love you Alex

@@Naminski1a didn't make it

Except Danny didn't "cry" when he lost out on the Civic.

Reason he didn't get the car because he jumped in when he chose the wrong choice​@@andrewschroy6368

He said 14 just a split-second after the clock hit 0, and back then, the buzzer was manual, so they had to go by the automatic clock (because going by a manual buzzer would have given contestants too much of an advantage). Therefore, he didn't win.

@@PowerRangersandAnimeUnite Understand the ruling but it's bullshit given I can't think of any other show (off the top of my head) that went by the display IIRC, it was all about beating the sound of the buzzer. Poor ol' Danny, he deserved that Civic.

thisfirrre Maybe because very few shows back then (including this) still used manual buzzers. Nowadays, all buzzers are automatic.

Grey area ultimately nbc would pay prize. Rule must been if clock had NOT hit 00 would be win. It HAD hit 00

Could have also been because they didn't want to give an inadvertent buzzer on a win if they could tell the final call was said before 00, and they needed to open the door.

Listen to what Alex said @ 1:39.

The clock clearly said 00 before he said 14, so no win.

@@tyvulpintaur2732 no he didn't quite get it in time

Jason Lovelady That didn’t start until later into the run. Contestants in the early months were often yelled at with “wait!” by the producer if they tried to go too quickly. With a last minute thing like this, though, I think it would’ve been okay.

@@thechadmosher then if that happened back then, maybe he should have been given the car if the producers still told him to wait. However, I still stand by what I said about the clock.

Or even if he didn't say 9! Epitome of how the 8th car is a Red Herring.

It wasn’t after the buzzer.

@@PackinStackin They didn't go by the buzzer (because it was manual at the time). They went by the clock.

@@GamingDelight To bad. Pyramid would have have been a win. They went by the buzzer.

@@PackinStackin Pyramid's clocks and buzzers were, and still are, automatic. Classic Concentration's buzzers were manual at the time.

​Meaning listen to Alex what he said the clock was at zero before he said 14. Therefore it's not a win​ 1:39@@GamingDelight

Well, the judge SUCKS! B-S!

Christopher Howell Never underestimate primitive technology.

Wrong call. All classic game shows went by buzzer. Not the clock.

@@PackinStackin then if that's the case, the clock should've had tenths on there. If you're giving the contestant hear the victory, he probably would've won it with about 0.3 seconds left.

@@PackinStackin Only if the buzzer were automatic, but this one wasn't.

The rules state that if you begin your final call (i.e. the second number to match the seventh car) before the clock reads 00, you win. Not sure which episode you're referring to with this "Paula" contestant, but there have been a few episodes on BUZZR where the final call happens while the clock is going to 00 and is a win.

Very true. Either it's the kind that says everything is a "technical win", or you have the kind that always says the contestant shouldn't win because of the poster's jealousy of not having anything.

@@wschmrdr its on here. Same exact thing.

@@wschmrdr type Classic concentration, Paula vs Rob

Found another. Guy named Greg in 1987 as well got the car in same situation as this. Terrible.

Pyramid's buzzer was automatic. Classic Concentration was manual at the time.

@@PowerRangersandAnimeUnite Scrabble's clock would've been best. It counts up or down in tenths of a second.

@@chrismc410 And I believe it used an automatic buzzer as well.

Andrew Schroy No, that was manual.

He was not.

@thechadmosher he was. He matched the two squares at the buzzer they could've gave him that. If the buzzer had finished sounded then yes I would say he didn't get it but the buzzer was still sounding.

@@williamjefferson6234 Alex clearly said the clock determines the fate, not the sound effects. He was not screwed.

No, it wasn't. He would've had too much of an advantage-- they had to go by the clock, not the buzzer.

At the time, because the buzzer was manual, they had to go by the clock, and it hit 0 before he made his final choice.

@@PowerRangersandAnimeUnite if you listened to him carefully and close you clearly hear him say the number before the buzz goes

@@limeex90 The buzzer was manual at the time. They had to go by the automatic clock. There were a lot of game shows that used, and went by, automatic buzzers at the time. Classic Concentration, with primitive technology and merely four months old by then, was not one of them. Danny said 14 just *after* the clock hit 0. He was definitely late.

Then it wouldn't be fair play. Standards & Practices makes that happen. Alex would be out of a job, and so would Marjorie Goodson.

The buzzer wasn't automatic at the time.

He said it before the buzzer but after the timer hit 0, so he didn't get it

@@GameShowFan9001 he didn't get it after the buzzer

Drew Zuhosky He said 14 after the clock hit 0, and because the buzzer wasn't automatic back then, it's far from messed up.

@@GamingDelight meaning that in your opinion what he said would basically be an understatement? (To be perfectly honest with you, I have never been able to fully understand why the contestants were even required to wait at all during the bonus round, since they did have to clear the board within the given time limit and they wouldn't win anything unless they were able to successfully match ALL 7 car pairs.) (I think that was the amount of time a contestant was required had to wait to call the second number was it not?) or that the judges did indeed make the right decision in this particular situation?

Wheeloffortunefan999 You're not making any sense. This is not an opinion. This is a fact! The buzzer was manual at the time, so going by the automatic clock was the only way to go.

​@@GamingDelight oh, I get it now, you must have thought I was talking about ALEX, and not the person whose comment you were replying to, correct? (if so, I actually WAS asking about the person whose comment you were replying to. I'm really surprised you didn't realize that right from the beginning to be honest.)

@@GamingDelight and I'm afraid he didn't get it after the buzzer Danny I'm sorry