"most of them in the united states market don't cost too much money" ahh 2009 what a wonderful time to be a Saturn collector. I would like to go back to that time
I remember watching this video a few times a day when I was waiting for my Saturn to be delivered. Now the video is older than the console was back then when this was released... Weird feeling.
Hearing him casually say that the saturn is cheap in the USA makes me want to start collecting for the ps3. One second its cheap the next the prices are through the roof.
The only kinds of people that are saying "Fuck you, Sega fanboy", are tiny tots that weren't alive and well during SEGA's most successful era. Even the SNES fans acknowledge how awesome the Genesis was in the day. A lot of us owned both machines!
I love the Saturn. I loved the fact that you could pause a part of a song and repeat it. I learned to play the bass parts on so many songs with the help of my Saturn. I love the Genesis and the entire 16 bit era. In Japan the Saturn continued to do well where it failed here. Even when the Dreamcast came out. Which failed in Japan.
I was much more of a Nintendo then SONY fan. But in hindsight, you're right. Sega was a pretty good manufacturing company and the competition they provided is sorely missed in the gaming industry. Great vid.
"most of them in the united states market don't cost too much money" ahh 2016 what a wonderful time to be a Saturn collector. I would like to go back to that time
LMAO, I swear it's an endless cycle. These games just keep on getting more and more expensive. Even though PDS goes for like 2 grand now we are gonna look back on how cheap that was 10 years from now when it's probably $20,000 at that point.
I was one of the many who grew up mainly with Nintendo (NES/SNES) then jumped ship to Sony and Microsoft when they first came onto the scene. From what I have noticed, Sega fans seem to be among the MOST LOYAL to a company and among the most knowledgeable about gaming in general. My first Sega console was the Dreamcast and I just recently got my first Saturn. I am slowly beginning to see why all the devotion.
+G Ryen Almost the same here. I got a Dreamcast in 2000 and I loved it, even if I had a PS2. I got a Saturn a couple of years ago out of curiosity and got a great deal on a huge bundle. I like some games, but I do not love it as much as the Dreamcast. The one I don't get is the Genesis. I've been trying to like it for 25 years and I still don't get it. Back in the day I used to play with my friend for the blood in Mortal Kombat and play the best version of NHL hockey until 95 on PC(great, but buggy), but did not convinced me to buy one. I guess it appeals to a certain type of gamer!?
+G Ryen I am loving this thread. You guys are the perfect fit for our new grass roots movement. segareniassance.blogspot.com/2016/03/su-message-preview-message.html Join my site April 19th. #BringBackThe4thGen.
Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you're bored like me atm you can stream all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Been streaming with my gf recently xD
Hey! I'm responding to this 11 years after it got posted and I'm currently the same age as you were when you commented this, and I hope you're alright and still happily retrogaming. As for me, I'm also a retro gamer and this channel is a major part of it!
+Daves Archives I know I like it WAY better. Now he sounds like he is too sarcastic to even be alive...every emotion is a parody of something he once felt.
I'm not really that much of a Sega fan but I owned a Saturn for some reason. I realized pretty immediately "I should have bought a PS." I will say that gen 1 "fat" saturn controller was and still is _the best_ no-analog-stick gamepad ever made. I especially like the mouse clicker shoulder buttons. Sometimes I would to figure out how to mod the shell of the thing to be a PC gamepad. But I don't want to ruin it. So it will continue to collect dust instead. I actually own the analog stick one as well but have used it extensively enough to know how good it is.
+Tildesare Cool I prefer the Japanese and second generation controllers. The original US model feels weird to me. I bought a "Saturn" USB controller lately and it's pretty great. It got the clicky shoulder buttons and it feels better than the original.
I believe the Sega Saturn would have done better if Sega had not made the 32X add on for the Sega Genesis because that scared a lot of game developers.
Such an underrated system. The Sega Saturn had tons of awesome games, shame a lot of them didn't see the light of day in America. My 3rd favorite Sega console.
This was an amazing console! The Sega Netlink on the Saturn was epic, it was my introduction to the internet and online gaming. It was limited, but amazing! I'll never forget the enjoyment I had with this console!
The Sega Saturn will always be my number 1. Mainly because I was my first game console. I had a model 1 to begin with but unfortunately the drive bit the dust. I was fortunate enough to find a model 2 at a flea market for 45 bucks and the guy let me pick out three games as a deal. That was like 5 years ago and it still works beautifully. I need more games tho. I only have 4..
Thx Karnage, I was thinking about getting a Sega Saturn for me and my girlfriend when we live together. This definitely gave me the facts and perspective I needed.
+Steve Normandin Excellent thread. It's exactly what my team and Project Dream is looking for! segareniassance.blogspot.com/2016/03/su-message-preview-message.html
I think the Sega Saturn and 32X might have sold better had they made the Saturn backwards compatible with Mega Drive, Mega CD and 32X games; and made the Mega Drive, Mega CD and 32X combination forwards compatible with the Saturn disks. That way, people new to Sega games could buy a Saturn while those who already had a Mega Drive and its add ons could stick with their old hardware.
I used to have a Saturn and I loved it. Broke my heart when I had to sell it. But I know someone out there is enjoying it as extensively as I once did.
The one issue I have with the review is that he only talked about a small genre of the games available with the Saturn, when a number of the best games for it weren't featured in the review (including some games that were close to having a North American release, like Hideo Kojima's Policenauts). He also talked about the price of Saturn games being affordable, but for the good games released in North America most of the good games for the system go for $100+ on Ebay now (back in 2009 the games weren't exactly cheap either), and Panzer Dragoon Saga is insanely expensive to buy even though it's arguably the best game on the console, and considered one of the best RPGs ever created. Other offerings like the games Working Designs brought over can also be a bit expensive too, as are a number of games on the Sega CD. Sega Saturn & Sega CD games (at least the good games) tend to be really expensive, the long box cases for the games have a tendency to crack or get damaged easily, and the old CD-rom discs are more prone to scratching than the consoles to come afterward. With the Genesis you have the traditional cartridges which will last a long time, and plastic cases (for most games). With the Dreamcast you have a sturdy machine and traditional plastic CD cases that don't break so easily, and the games are far more common so if one happens to get wear and tear to the point it won't work, it's much cheaper to find a replacement. The Saturn and the Sega CD were actually decent consoles, but nowadays the biggest problem is buying the games for it since they're uncommon, higher in price, and the Saturn hardware makes emulation really difficult too.
In my opinion, if they would use that cartridge slot to play old genesis and 32x and cd rom could play sega cd games, this console could be hit. Still dont understand, why dont they use that slot. Backward compactible is great aspect. If only, If only.
Sometimes I wonder if compatibility with Genesis and 32X games was planned in the early stages of the Saturn's development. Almost every time I see the cartridge slot in the back, it takes about a microsecond to remember that it's for memory units and RAM expansion, not game cartridges.
I wish I still had a Sega Saturn to this day because I missed out on a lot of good games for it. I mean, sure, the console didn't have that many Sonic the Hedgehog games, but it had tons of fighting games from Capcom, Sega, SNK, the Mortal Kombat series, Dead or Alive 1 and some other Saturn games that I never heard of. And the superior RAM cartridge that the Saturn had was the Action Replay Plus cartridge, which was a 3-things-in-1 device, meaning that it would allow you to perform cheats in your Saturn games, save your Saturn's game data and break the region encoding allowing you play imported games on any Sega Saturn model of your choice, which was awesome and the Saturn was also backwards-compatible with music CDs as well.
I loved my Saturn back on the day. Hindsight is always 20/20. Sega needed CEOs with vision. imagine how big they could of been if they shipped their dreamcast that also served as a DVD player. Dreamcast was absolutely wonderful.
Dude, I'm looking at purchasing a Sega Dreamcast instead of the PlayStation 4 or Xbox One. Games are still being made for it! lol Fuck you next-gen! Ahahaha!
***** Are you being sarcastic? Or serious? It's hard to tell on the internet sometimes. ;) Dreamcast is the best arcade console ever. So many pick up play titles. Sure, they got knocked for being "short", but the sheer number of games, and hella replay value, makes it all worth your time and dollars. :)
Nice work. Now get the black action replay cart and start playing all the great import Capcom and SNK fighters out of Japan. Best console for home arcade ports with the use of the extra RAM on the cart. Even out-performs Playstation almost across the board.
GroovinFunk if only the Saturn had better marketing and a cheaper price tag back in 95 the gaming community would be totally different today Sega forever
GroovinFunk Just got one of those Action Replay cartridges, they are a must have. So far I have Slayer Royal 2 and Neon Genesis Evangelion from Japan and a european copy of Sonic Jam, it will work with european games as well.
Retro Gameing Guitarist sweet bro I'm still waiting for my Japanese Saturn complete with virtua fighter 2 biohazard (resident evil) and.... street fighter the movie game not to thrilled about that one but imma look into one of those action reply cartridges
derrick hockaday Get one while you can, they're about $40 on amazon but they're worth every penny. I'm still waiting on Street Fighter Collection which contains SSF2, SSF2 Turbo and Alpha 2 Gold that I'm importing from Japan from amazon. If you wanna a good Street Fighter game on Saturn I suggest these ones or Alpha 3 which was released only in Japan.
Bought my Saturn on ebay April 27th with Nights, Mr. bones, Radiant silver gun, Panzer Dragoon 1,2 and Saga, a pro action replay, memory card, ST key (not sure what it does), and two controllers, I'm set for a while. Also, I ordered Minnesota Fats, a billboards game, since the FMV is so hilarious. Really excited. Should be at my doorstep in a few more days.
This video brings back most treasured moment. My brother and his best friend, and me had McDonald's food. My brother best friend home, he welcome his Sega Saturn.
I've go my Saturn plugged hooked up to a TV in my basement and have been playing Galactic attack and Tempest 2000 along with Virtua Fighter 2, Virtua cop and many more because this console is great!
I think the SEGA Saturn world have done better if: 1) It could play Genesis via the slot in the back (Were the Action Replay was) 2) It could play 32X games via the slot in the back (Were the Action Replay was) 3) It could play SEGA CD games 4) It had a memory card that plugged in to a controller port like the PlayStation 1, or in the slot in the back (Were the Action Replay was) Man SOOOOOOO many opportunities for that slot in the back!
+AgentCell I hear ya. The Saturn I can understand because Sega totally blew the launch, but the Dreamcast felt like it had so much more potential and wasn't an outright failure. Unfortunately many potential DC owners fell for Sony's genius marketing and ended up waiting for the PS2 and skipping the DC altogether. It's sad.
It was more successful in Japan, it's one of the few consoles people actively recommend importing for because most of its best games, and there are alot of them, came out in Japan. Unless you can read Japanese I suggest shopping for the Playstation for the rpgs, alot of them made it to that console in the States, but there are plenty of other titles to play that don't have much of a language barrier.
+AgentCell Saturn had quality problem it's very first games. Polygon pop-up, unfinished games, low quality and few games. When PS1 arrived it launch with 40 games, kind of the same amount Saturn had with 1 year of life, and promised more 40 ins next few months. Also the PS1 was focused in 3D games. Saturn remake some games hat should be good but was badly ported like Vitua Fighter and Daytona (remake as the REMIX and CCE versions) tho prove it's potential, but was too late. On Dreamcast SEGA had already built a bad reputation and soon after it came PS2 using DVD.
+TrollBuster The Dreamcast launched at $199, so for an extra $100 you got a console with marginally better graphics and the ability to play DVD's. Sega also pissed of EA and they refused to make games for the console ( No Madden, NBA Live) + a lot of people were worried that Sega would ditch them after 2 years like they did on the Sega Cd, 32X, and Saturn. Which is a shame, because watching the opening sequence to Sonic Adventure and playing the first level w/ the killer whale practically changed my life.
+AgentCell Well, part of it was a bad launch, and part of it was the fact that they misjudged the market, which was more interested in 3d titles. While the Saturn could do 3d graphics, it not nearly as good at it as the PS1, and porting over to the Saturn was made difficult by the fact that the Saturn renders with squares, rather than triangles. The last, and probably most fatal part of the Saturn's failure was basic hardware confusion. Sega had released the Genesis, followed by the Sega CD, and then the 32x. Beyond which, they had three different versions of the Genesis (four if you count the Nomad, which claimed the souls of countless innocent AA batteries), and various combinations like the third party JVC X'Eye and the CDX (which could also be used as a portable CD player). Did you say you wanted a IBM compatible PC with Sega hardware pointlessly shoehorned in? Why, then you need an Amstrad built Sega TeraDrive! Complicating things even more is that not everything worked with everything else. It was more than a little confusing to consumers, and the fact that they kept selling these previous versions after the Saturn came out (despite not supporting all of them with continued game development) caused people to not know which thing they should buy. Nintendo watched this unfold, and quietly smothered their CD add-on project with a pillow, which, due to their somewhat underhanded dealings, led to the fantastically successful Playstation console being created, and also the soiled, unloved afterbirth that was the Philips CD-i. So, after all this, the Saturn came out, and while it was well built, and was a 2d powerhouse, people either kept using their prior Sega hardware, or more likely, purchased a PS1. The effect of the consumer confusion, coupled with Sega abandoning hardware people had dropped a fair amount of cash to purchase, caused distrust that was fatal to not just the Saturn, but also the Dreamcast. I love my Saturn, by the way. I love the weird way it saves games with volatile memory and a battery just like a cartridge (also used by the Sega CD). I love the weird "3d controller" with the bizarre round shape and weird wiggly analog nipple, and the fact that you have to switch between the stick and the d-pad, and that the cord can unplug from the controller. I like the varied solutions to problems before we'd all agreed on what the best way to do things is. Sort of the way phones and PDAs used to come in all sorts of strange combinations before we all decided that boring rectangles with touchscreens were the way to go. This is why I'm a collector, especially of odd, unpopular hardware.
I have a lot of affection for sega myself. I had a sega saturn back in the day, but I sold it years later and kind of regret it now. I want another one!
I started playing my Saturn console again(after a year ago) which I got after someone discarded it and with other related games and accessories in summer 2006.And I had a blast playing Fighters Megamix,Daytona CCE and other games on this console.I take back those negative comments I posted online about this console it's overall appeal has finally hooked me.
I worked for SEGA as a tester in 07 & 09. They were my favourite dev/pub in the Megadrive days. It's things like that that make life cool. Great review!
Gosh how I miss my Saturn... It had the best controller, the best sound chip, some of the best exclusive titles, the most affordable way to browse the web via the NetLink attachment, and if a developer took the time to learn how to code for it games could look at least equal to the PlayStation's offerings. Does anyone remember PowerSlave? Or how about Duke Nukem 3D?
Underrated? This console was made by God as a gift to humanity. Then forgotten... Lost in the sands of time with the coming of Sony's Playstation. And Nintendo 64, the great deceiver.
The Saturn was also pretty difficult to program for and was dropped with little to no warning at a time when the 32X was being hyped as the future of Sega (this issue itself was due to poor relations and poor communication between Sega's Japanese and American divisions). The Saturn was actually pretty popular in Japan, in no small part thanks to the Segata Sanshiro ad campaign, so at least there's that.
Man... Nostalgia... I remember getting a Saturn when it was kinda new.. It came bundled with Virtua cop, Virtua Fighter 2 & Daytona USA. Great arcade ports at the time the only other games I remember were Virtual-On, Alien Trilogy (which scared the shit out of me when I was 7) & Bug! Too! Which is a super rare 3D Platformer that no one talks about. The Saturn was probably SEGA's weakest console.
I actually think it's one of their strongest consoles with some of their best games. Outstanding arcade ports from all developers like Treasure's "Radiant Silvergun", the Capcom CPS fighting games like the Street Fighter Alpha series, the X-Men fighting games, and the Marvel Super Hero games, the great library of Shoot'em Ups, such as Salamander, Dodonpachi, Galactic Attack, and a whole lot more. Also, the hardware is very well made. Granted the old Sega's were built fairly well, this thing is built like a fricken tank. The best part is the CD-ROM drive, which is very well put together, and you're almost guaranteed to have your system work. Plus the power cables and video cables are pretty cheap and easy to come by. Plus the controllers: the Model 1 & 2 controllers are awesome, the Mission Stick is pretty cool, and the Virtua Stick is really cool for shooters. I like the system a lot, but I'm split between this and the Genesis for favorite Sega System
Mark sounded so serious back when he relaunched CGR... ...i guess CGR fans started to send him so much beer that it had a huge impact on his reviews (and brain!) :P And i'm happy for that :D
I'm Sony fanboy by the way, but i'm also Sega and NIntendo fanboy. Screw Xbox! nobody i would buy that. I love Sony, Sega and Nintendo no matter what, but not Xbox except Windows.
thanks to mark and classic game room i got my hands on a sega dreamcast and a saturn. ive played dreamcast when i was younger but it was my uncles now i have my own!
Dreamcast is overrated, Saturn and Genesis are the best Sega consoles. Also, if you think Saturn didn't have third party support, i advise you to look at the Japanese game library to educate yourself: Capcom, Konami, Atlus, Taito, SNK, Treasure, Technosoft, Hudson, Camelot, Game arts etc. those aren't good enough for you?, i think that's a much better third party support than for exaxmple, Nintendo 64.
Marcel Weber the 64 outsold the saturn by a land slide! ea pulled there support of the system and so did many other big third party supporters. yes the dreamcast did have some but most if not all the games that where "good" came from first party support SEGA not anywhere else
BIGGIEDEVIL Who cares about western developers support, Saturn on Japan had a lot of great third party support and outsold the 64 there, Saturn doubles the n64's game library. I can understand not liking the Saturn back then being american, but today it's pretty easy to buy import, so saying it was a bad console is just dumb.
Marcel Weber i actually liked the saturn i found the graphics to be better than the ps1 when comparing same titles, but the saturn was a failure 9.5 million consoles compared to 32 million from the N64, Despite the saturn having many more games then the n64 the n64 quality of games is far superior and set the standard for games to come like goldeneye and mario 64
BIGGIEDEVIL N64 is an overrated console, why games like Goldeneye, an overrated first person shooter are better than Panzer Dragoon Zwei, Radiant Silvergun or Guardian Heroes? Mario 64 is fun, but the Saturn has a lot of great titles too.
Loved my Saturn, would play Tomb Raider on mute with the Tool album 'Undertow' as the soundtrack. Every time I see Lara Croft i hear "way down in the undertow" great memories
Officially subscribed to your channel after watching this video and the closing comments about the negative message you received!! Sadly so true in regards to "fanboyism", but I loved the response to simply buy a Saturn :) Definitely more of a Sega guy, but I appreciate any good system and good game, regardless of the manufacturer - that's the a true gamer should be!
i love your videos, at first i was like, another reviewer, cuz i was so into avgn but, now im starting to watch your vids in every chance i get because i found you very modest, and of course, so entretaining. thnx for giving us hours of fun and make us waste money on stuff we thought was shitty, cuz you make every thing you review look awesome and worth buying. im getting many of my ps3 games because of you! thnx again., sorry for bad english, im italian ;)
Love all your videos my friend and because of them I broke down and bought a Saturn and a Dreamcast and absolutely love them both! Got about 6 or 7 games for each based on some of your reviews and I am glad I did. Was very inexpensive and they are both amazing consoles!
I was born in 95' had a sega since it came out. I played virtua fighter, clock works, daytona usa, and many more titles. I still play it to this day and I have noticed it is very under rated. I played this over my ps1 most of the time. It has some really good graphics for it's era.
I was a huge Sega Fanboy back in the day. And even though I had every affordable console available back then (Master System, NES, SNES, Genesis, 32X, Sega CD, Turbo-Graphics 16, etc) the Sega lineup was my favorite, especially the Genesis, which was by far my favorite console of all time.
You will never regret getting one. Panzer Dragoon series is worth the purchase alone! Throw in Sega Rally and Virtua Fighter 2 and you're set for days of entertainment!
@@rockylopez7846 Fingers crossed for you finding and getting one, the more of us Sega Saturn lovers the better! :) Keep an eye out for Burning Rangers, too!
The Sega Saturn was a good console with 20-30 must-have games. Particularly, Panzer Dragoon Saga, a game which few people will ever get to hear of let alone play.
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