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Classic Gear ALERT!!!
The Edirol V4 is a classic video mixer designed for VJs. Compact, feature-packed and stylish. I cover all the juicy deets.
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@GlitchedProxy
@GlitchedProxy 10 месяцев назад
Please continue this series, we need more documentation for people trying to get into video synthesis and glitch art.
@jaguarvssnake
@jaguarvssnake Месяц назад
Thanks for doing this. I don’t have this unit but I still enjoyed watching it back to fringe! And I love your post-it game.
@YOVOZOL
@YOVOZOL 3 года назад
definitely the most performance friendly mixer out there, especially for improvising. I have the V8! The only thing with Edirol mixers is... they are not very good at handling most distorted signals coming from circuit bent devices. Their internal TBCs are not very good, so I always have my bent signals going through a Sima SFX-9 first.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 2 года назад
Yeah, ture, you can improve that a little by changing/lowering the sync thresh in the setings
@REALWARE
@REALWARE 2 года назад
Happy to report that the V4-EX handles distorted signals much better than the V4/8. I was able to consistently overdrive a signal through a Syntonie CBV-001 with no blue screen of death even with default settings!
@jojoDUB
@jojoDUB Год назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 That's a great tip, thx!
@LuminousAbstract
@LuminousAbstract 11 месяцев назад
@@REALWAREyou can turn the blue screen of death into a black screen of “oh no” in the settings S we’ll just fyi
@baloup571
@baloup571 10 месяцев назад
@@catfullofghosts4478hey just discovered your channel :3 loved this vid! Do you suggest the V-4 or the V-8, there’s a little/quite nothing price difference
@th3rdpartyproductions98
@th3rdpartyproductions98 4 года назад
Just what I was looking for. Thanks, mate
@franciscomolina8970
@franciscomolina8970 4 года назад
I just bought one of these from a church last month! So cool! Thanks for an actually thorough video!
@bobbyguzman3058
@bobbyguzman3058 3 года назад
Just ordered one looking forward to it
@photography_night_school
@photography_night_school 3 года назад
Thank you for a nice review!
@Rik_bS
@Rik_bS 4 года назад
The keyed feedback is pretty cool, I need to explore that 😃
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
I look a bit at keyed feedback in this vid: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--ZuOjJNt04s.html&ab_channel=CatFullofGHOSTS
@ZackWebsite
@ZackWebsite 4 года назад
COOOL !!! you're so right ! there isnt enough online video coverage for these products and I'm so happy you're makin these ! OH Question: where did you get the knobs for that video synth of yours to the left ? they're so sick
@allhellbreaksloops
@allhellbreaksloops 4 года назад
Fantastic walkthrough! Really appreciate your thorough approach to the v4!
@giantmecha
@giantmecha 4 года назад
I wanna hear more about your lil prototype!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
instagram.com/p/CCrru68hlDq/ Been beavering away on it in the back ground for a while
@HardWiredOnline
@HardWiredOnline 4 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Hows is it coming along?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
@@HardWiredOnline slowly but surly,
@makaiya009
@makaiya009 3 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 'beavering away' LOL
@tomallen343
@tomallen343 Год назад
Hey bud, big fan. Do you have any experience with the v5???? I can't find like anything about it on the webz....
@xkylar
@xkylar 3 года назад
you’re literally saving my life rn ty
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
that seems pretty unlikely right? was Jigsaw like "ill let you go if you can tell me which early 2000s video mixer first made use of BPM sync?"
@xkylar
@xkylar 3 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 that is exactly what happened omg
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
@@xkylar !!!!!!!!!
@michaelpitts2319
@michaelpitts2319 Год назад
Hey! Great vid. What kind of monitor is that? I've been looking for tiny screens with rca input.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
reversing camera screen, they are pretty cheap on ebay or amazon
@barkerbiztv9837
@barkerbiztv9837 3 года назад
Thanks,, Brilliant video,,my V-4 arrived today off eBay,,you did so much with just 1 camcorder input,, so excited me Wot with the 4,inputs can I do,, really enjoyed this,,
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
the simplest way to do feedback is to connect one of your outputs to another of your inputs then look at the luma key and chroma key.
@HardWiredOnline
@HardWiredOnline 4 года назад
Fantastic video, just what I was looking for to pair a Dirty Video Mixer with too TBC and effect it.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
cool! I dont have any TBC's, bu ti feel like its gotta be on my list for doing experimental stuff like that.
@muzzybearr6496
@muzzybearr6496 3 года назад
Appreciate the deep dive into this mixer! Been in the market for something similar for a long time but this vid really sold me. Curious to know how you manage to get an iPad to input into this. Which cable/adapters?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
Ipad 2 has composite video out with a 30pin to rca cable. These Ipads are pretty cheap because of how old they are, but you have to wrangle them a bit to get footage on them.
@asilentservice7770
@asilentservice7770 3 года назад
great stuff
@theMIDImaniac
@theMIDImaniac 2 года назад
Lovely video! Just bought the V-8 for a lousy 100€ and now I'm to connect it to my Roland MV-8800 through V-Link. Can't wait to step back into time and just fiddling around.
@ZackYouTube
@ZackYouTube Год назад
you got a great deal on it.
@Sakunera
@Sakunera 4 года назад
When you hook up the video synth it really looks fun! Great video
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
It does! thanks
@kingpishful
@kingpishful 4 года назад
Cheers for the feedback tip
@kevindapper
@kevindapper 2 года назад
Awesome video! I got one from ebay the other day. I've tried a couple different inputs into this thing but it only outputs an unstable black and white signal. If i plug it into the preview out the signal is final and in color. Any ideas what might be causing this? Is the signal too weak or maybe the RCA wires I'm using are shit?
@idjut1080
@idjut1080 2 года назад
I can't retrieve my mini DV videos for the same reason. Hope you figure this one out guy!
@adamyglesias4473
@adamyglesias4473 Год назад
My exact problem as well I hope there's a solution
@StudioSappy
@StudioSappy 2 года назад
love it dude, thankyou muchly. Are you based in Aus?
@dontnormally
@dontnormally 2 года назад
How do you feel about the V4ex?
@cassiusnymh
@cassiusnymh 3 года назад
hey man! any idea when we can buy your video synth?? or are there any old skool equivalents out there? love the content :)
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
The one in this vid, yeah... sorry its on the back log of stuff to do. here is a good video on video synths that are around ATM ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-wFEeg8bo3yk.html&ab_channel=YOVOZOL
@jackthecohen
@jackthecohen 3 года назад
what was the video synth you plugged in?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
A prototype im working on called the Cat Vi$$ion
@PS-ys9yg
@PS-ys9yg 4 года назад
for any razon, all the used V4 in ebay are from japon
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
Edirol (a part of Roland) was a Japanese company, could still be some stock still there.
@pardonmysandwich6943
@pardonmysandwich6943 4 года назад
Is the A/B fader adjustable?.... I ordered one and it has a vertical orientation - I noticed there are four screws holding it down on the plate. Rad video! Very excited.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
yeah, if you undo the screws you can flip it to left/right. There was even a DJ fader attachment available for fast cuting
@fingerfooty
@fingerfooty 3 года назад
been interested in getting into analog visuals like this, i got a couple camcorders and a crt tv but been looking for a good budget entry video mixer. something cheaper than the v4 preferably. any suggestions? thanks 🙏
@thestever
@thestever Год назад
This video was super helpful! One question -- I have an Edirol V8 and I can't seem to get the same "Thick Zebra Stripe" effect when doing feedback with invert. For me, the stripes are so thin that it all sort of melts into one big texture and just appears as flickering, which is a little hard on the eyes. I'd love to get those thick stripes going. Is there a setting that can maybe, idk, change the refresh rate of an input channel? Or would a delay device help accomplish this?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
delay will help with that, also the format you are using, PAL has a 50hz refresh rate and NTSC has a 60hz rate (vertical refresh) so the time between frames should be more for PAL (right?), you could try switching into PAL mode to check, also any kind of delay you can put in the way of the feedback will help, it will need to be more then just a long cable tho, something that processes the video will work well, like a video effect.
@lazza_gio
@lazza_gio 8 месяцев назад
hi, how can i send footage from my macbook (2020 - usb-c only) to an input on my edirol ? thanks
@bbqchickenwingsofredemptio449
@bbqchickenwingsofredemptio449 3 года назад
Will getting it modded effect anything you just showed us, as in, you wouldn't be able to do what you just did? Or is it just extra fx and more money of course.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
glitchart.com/shop/modified-edirol-v4/ mostly the cost, and i only have one, the mods are very cool but also extreme, so i feel like i would want a choice.
@audioexpedition
@audioexpedition 4 года назад
I'm interested in whatthe other four devices you flashed on the screen are, although I feel like this is what I've been looking for!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
@ what time code?
@audioexpedition
@audioexpedition 4 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 @00:35
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
@@audioexpedition oh yeah, Panasonic MX12 video mixer Videonics MX1 video mixer Datavideo SE500 video mixer and Korg Kaoss Entrancer video fx
@gtorrone1
@gtorrone1 4 года назад
mate do you have any experience using the midi on these i need to up my integration into my setup 😂
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
Yeah, ive sequenced the V4 from a computer a few times, what were you hoping to do?
@gabrielaruiz7723
@gabrielaruiz7723 3 года назад
Do you know if this device could withstand being rubbed 8 hours a day on a loop for 1 month? Please and thank you
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
hahahahah! gonna need more context for that one.
@hiding_my_name
@hiding_my_name 3 года назад
Thanks for doing this video! I've been trying to determine if I wanted to save for one of these or a videonics mx-1... should I save up for one of these, or do you know I'd can I get similar functionality from the more affordable mx-1? After seeing this video, I think I want one of these!
@HXLNT
@HXLNT 2 года назад
The V4 is way more playable and fun than the MX-1, imo.
@maxortuno1170
@maxortuno1170 Год назад
What Panasonic camrea are you using on this video?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
nvds60 , its a great little mini dv camera
@darcieraske8053
@darcieraske8053 Год назад
Great video! I have been using the Sima SFX-9 to mangle videos for when me and my buddies dj. It's great fun, but it is on loan. I wanted to buy the Panasonic AG-MX70. Have you or anyone else worked with that machine? Do you think it would be good for mangling the videos together and doing trippy effects? the sima has a key effect where it blends the two sources together depending on what is in the foreground and background. I haven't been able to figure out if the Panasonic AG-MX70 has that capability or if it only has fade in and fade out.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
Ive got a AG-MX70, i dont have the 3d card in it tho which lets you do 3d fx. it is very cool, but also big and has a bit of menu diving, its not very glitchy, but it has some pretty cool stuff it can do. I should probs make a quick vid on it. A few people have asked about it.
@Bumslie187
@Bumslie187 Год назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 I'm the original poster, just changed profiles. I ended up buying a V4 (because of your vid ☺) and an mx70. I also have the Eyesy critter and gutari visualizer (highly recommend taking a look at) on one of the inputs. They work really well together, but I'm having some recording issues. When i connect my V4 to a tv or projector using RCA it is crystal clear, but when I send it through an rca to hdmi converter, so that I can record to my computer, there is always some sort of artifact on the recording. Like a slightly fuzzy band, or some other unwanted distortion. Do you have any ideas on how I can get rid of that? i have tried three converters, and they all have their own version of distortion. Here is a music video i made using them all together (with the artifact i mentioned) after watching this video where you talk about using feedback and the Negative effect. drive.google.com/file/d/1qa28n-B-cu7VFbhWwK4IYTBTTUNx2w2B/view?usp=share_link If you don't want that link on your comments i'll take it down.
@consciouscoma85
@consciouscoma85 3 года назад
i see your using a RCA to HDMI converter box coming out.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
not on this one, this is super lofi, that is a reversing camera screen on the table and I just zoom in when editing! The later videos Im using a capture card to get a direct feed tho.
@consciouscoma85
@consciouscoma85 3 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 hopefully LZX will be ready to ship the chromagnon soon and after watching your video a few times i am blown away on how many different options this mixer has to offer before you even go into the the video synth. you can even pre record a transition effect and play on one channel and play an effect strait from the menue on another channel while using your other effects on the mixer...i plan on spending hours recording my own clips when ever they ship it...i ordered it when i was 59 and i am now 61 and still do not have it. i guess COVID and supply line issues from china but its presently almost compleat so it should not be long.
@rimbod1366
@rimbod1366 4 года назад
Teach me teach me!!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--ZuOjJNt04s.html&ab_channel=CatFullofGHOSTS
@theofarnum8706
@theofarnum8706 3 года назад
Do you know if there's any differences between international versions of these devices? I live in the States and there's a unit currently available on ebay but it is in Australia and missing the power supply. If I were to buy it, would there be any issues with video regions? And could I just buy a US specification power supply somewhere online? Thanks!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
the V4 is international, it runs off a DC power supply, so you just need one with the right plug for your county. But the unit can do both NTSC or PAL. Try to get a good quality power supply that matches the specs.
@theofarnum8706
@theofarnum8706 3 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 thanks so much for the quick response! Really enjoying your overviews of analog video gear, there's not a lot of people out there doing that with this amount of detail.
@aranzino9395
@aranzino9395 Год назад
Is it worth buying this just for the effects?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
kinda yeah
@mysticstylus
@mysticstylus 3 года назад
Thanks for uploading! Have you ever messed with the MIDI capabilities of the V4? I was curious if it may play nicely in a DAWless synth/sequencer chain, or with MIDI signals from a DJ controller + Serato (etc.). Would love to see an in-depth video/post on that biz if you're familiar!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
hey hey! I have made a max4live device that controls the V4/V8 github.com/cfoge/MAX4LIVE_V8_V4 They both work great with midi, but I have only ever done it from a computer, rather then from DAWless. I do have a CV to Edirol controller in the works tho.
@RECArmy
@RECArmy 2 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Hi! Do you know if its possible to use the V4 to control software like OBS, ATEM control... using a MIDI conection??... I mean, its possible to map the buttons, knobs... with MIDI conection to PC?? thanks!
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 2 года назад
@@RECArmy It has midi out, so I don't see any reason you couldn't use it to control something that takes midi
@RECArmy
@RECArmy 2 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Thanks!
@derivativesmrkt7211
@derivativesmrkt7211 3 года назад
what are the cables you’re using? a composite A/V?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
for which part? all the cables are rca/composite video
@pyrox2518
@pyrox2518 8 месяцев назад
hey Cat, Is is possible to link the effects to midi?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 8 месяцев назад
yes, in fact here is a M4L patch for doing just that catfullofghosts.etsy.com/listing/1578389148
@EmTrumble
@EmTrumble Год назад
When was this released? What year?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
2003 i think
@wasteelectronic2224
@wasteelectronic2224 2 года назад
It's possible use a guitar delay effect for analog video?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 2 года назад
No, sadly, or at least not directly. Audio and video have different frequency ranges. So an audio effect is pretty unlikely to be able to process the high-frequency video signal. The second barrier to this is that, analogue video has sync information that would be distorted by a delay effect. This might look cool, but more likely it will destroy the signal resulting in the TV (or whatever) being unable to display the imge. Hope that helps
@wasteelectronic2224
@wasteelectronic2224 2 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Thank you!!
@ZackYouTube
@ZackYouTube Год назад
Is there a way to broadcast the Edirol V4's output into my computer?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
yup, you just need a video capture card that will take the composite video (or s-video) from the V4 and make it show up as a webcam. then you can use OBS or some other software to capture it and stream it however you like.
@ZackYouTube
@ZackYouTube Год назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 that's awesome, thanks a lot! Is there a certain capture card you'd recommend?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
@@ZackRU-vid what kind of computer do you have/ what OS are you running, windows 11 makes a lot of the old ones not work anymore, but pretty much if you can find a cheap one with UVC (that means you don't need drivers) you should be fine, I've got so manny different ones and it is always a bit of a gamble as to which works with what computer/os and what the quality will be
@ZackYouTube
@ZackYouTube Год назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 I'm on Windows 10. UVC, got it! Thank you very much. 🐾
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 Год назад
@@ZackRU-vid yeah anything that says its UVC should be fine
@ottowhite5720
@ottowhite5720 4 месяца назад
Saludos cordiales una pregunta amigo por casualidad tendra los datos del Cargador de Voltaje del Edirol v4 le agradecería mucho.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 месяца назад
Hola, la fuente de alimentación original se llamaba "PSB-U1", pero ya no se fabrica. Roland está vendiendo una unidad de reemplazo llamada 'PSB-120'. www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/PSB120--roland-psb-120-ac-adapter
@ottowhite5720
@ottowhite5720 4 месяца назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Muchas gracias
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 месяца назад
@@ottowhite5720 Encantado de ayudar
@drzygote
@drzygote 4 года назад
Can't figure out how to key different colours. It only seems to key out my face. Even in front of a green screen.
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
On a V4? The chroma key is not really fully featured. I get the impression it is designed for VJing style dirty chroma key rather than traditional fg/bg chroma keying. My other keyers, have things like level, color and intensity/softness settings to let you dial in the settings. V4 has just one knob.
@meltdream2613
@meltdream2613 4 года назад
@@catfullofghosts4478 Actually if you take a look in the menu settings for the key you have a few parameters, most importantly the key target color! That should help
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 4 года назад
Oh really! my bad, I just checked, there is a menu inside the "chromakey*" selector, never knew. Thanks for the heads up. Turns out it is a lot more capable then I thought! Nice!
@stylemazta
@stylemazta 3 года назад
8:08
@elderchildren
@elderchildren 2 года назад
great vid, thank you! what are the cameras/ that monitor youre using in this vid?
@walshing_machine
@walshing_machine 3 года назад
I have the edirol v4 and the feedback moves to the right instead of up like on yours. Is there a way I can change the direction of the feedback lines?
@catfullofghosts4478
@catfullofghosts4478 3 года назад
normally feedback has a lot to do with delay time if you can add delay to the feedback path you will get different effects like a change in direction, but feedback typically moves to the right because that is the way the scanline of composite video moves. You could try longer cables, or putting another piece of equipment in the feedback path, or using a video delay.
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