Classic Sonic Timeline 

Calling the first 4 games "the death egg saga" is literal genius

I love what you did with the whole Mania and Forces timeline debacle. Makes it allot cleaner and less “he’s from another dimension”

Your timeline actually makes sense. This is now my headcannon as well.

Mania definitely happened BECAUSE of Generations. It's an alternate Sonic 4, for starters as both games are described as taking place right after Sonic 3 & Knuckles in their timelines. But also, in Mania, Classic Sonic finds out about the Phantom Ruby. If Modern Sonic had already experienced this, the Phantom Ruby wouldn't be a surprise to him in Sonic Forces. This is new to him, and therefore Classic Sonic seeing the Phantom Ruby is doing so in a now alternate past.

In regards to the Sonic robots, I prefer the popular headcanon of "Metal was made with future technology, so Eggman couldn't make another one (and Metal was apparently just left to rust at Stardust Speedway according to Sonic 4, which seems reasonable to me, so he couldn't be fixed either) and thus his later robots were less advanced". That, or Metal was made with speed in mind and was only upgraded later, while the other three were made with power in mind (...except maybe Game Gear Silver Sonic, which feels like it was hastily put together just to hold off Sonic for a little longer). But your headcanon makes sense too!

I'm glad someone shares my theory/headcanon as to why Metal Sonic was used first despite the inferior Silver/Mecha Sonics being used after him! I don't get why anyone else never thought of this explanation.

My headcanon for the Metal Sonic debacle is that Metal is a time paradox, created in by Eggman in the future of Little Planet, and able to actually time travel due to his speed rivalling Sonic's. After this, Eggman tried to replicate him with the Mecha/Silver Sonics. After that Metal was the final evolution of this, with his appearance in Triple Trouble being his first appearance, and then Sonic 4 brought back the original Metal from Little Planet.

You should someday do a full timeline maybe after superstars comes out

I lot of people headcanon that Generations caused a split timeline but I'm sceptical of that. Primarily because when we look at games like Sonic CD and 06 or just anything involving Silver in general time travel never causes a split timeline, it always seems to just rewrite the events of the past to create a different future. But I won't deny, Sonic canon is wrought with contradictions that make it a lot simpler to just place certain events in different timelines and it's pretty hard to reconcile Mania Adventures, Encore Mode and Forces any other way.

Today, we discuss the timeline of Classic Sonic games!

15:32 lol that's why Encore is the canon one

This is an extremely good video! Your channel is gonna grow lots!

I like your theory about metal sonic. I like to believe metal sonic was made after sonic 2 and 3 but the time stones sent metal sonic back to CD. Seeing metal sonic inspired eggman to start developing Mecha sonic and eventually metal sonic. Also I like to think little planet inspired the death egg

I have a lot of things in my mind I want to write and discuss with you my friend, but the only think I want to ask you now, is the placement of Knuckles Chaotix. In the manuals of Knuckles Chaotix the story says that the master emerald activated the chaos rings and Knuckles got there to the carnival island to check it out by him self right after the events of the s3&k. So I think it’s to far to put it in the order you put it. What do you think? Nice video by the way✌️

Love these headcannons

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I like your timeline! Makes it much less confusing. I’m still stuck on when the 8 bit games take place? I like your headcanon as well. I was thinking 8 bit Sonic 1 took place before Sonic 1 MD then after Sonic 1 MD was Sonic 2 GG, then Sonic Chaos, then Sonic 2 MD, then 3&K, then Triple Trouble, then either Chaotix or any of the Drift games.

I like to think that after the saturn games adventure takes place, and the other stuff (mainia, superstars, ect.) In the split timeline that generations caused. In the ending of sonic generations we see the two eggmans bickering, where classic eggman says that he wont try to use the time eater meaning that in the new timeline sonic generations never happens when its supposed to (I like to belive something similar happened with adventure and the games afterwards) EDIT: That could also be why tails calls clasic sonic "sonic from another dimension" rather than younger sonic or something similar

My theory about sonic mania is the fact that it might take place during sonic three because we see him going there with tails and then that’s when everything gets all mixed up then that’s where the timeline split where the classic sonic that got to experience sonic three became modern sonic and then the one that experienced sonic mania became classic sonic that we know today

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Interesting depiction of the classic version's timeline.

-Sonic 1 -Segasonic -Sonic CD -Sonic 2 MD -Sonic 3 and Knuckles -Sonic 2 SMS -Sonic Chaos -Knuckles Chaotix -Sonic Triple Trouble -Sonic Labrint/Tails Skypatrol -Sonic Blast -Tails Adventure -Sonic Spinball -Sonic 3D Blast -Sonic R -Sonic the Fighters

sega has made this series timeline and lore as confusing than drakengard/nier

I mean like, they’ve only went super, like the cyan emerald, you can climb, swim? I don’t know but, you can go up waterfalls, witch they’ve never done before superstars. Hopefully this comment makes my question make sense to you, by the way, keep up the good work!

1:31 um... they were enemies BEFORE sonic 1 though. Technically, this is just the first time he uses animals inside machines, but otherwise they met before the 1st game.

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You should make a full timeline. Good job!

Here's my Classic timeline based off of this and what we know: Original timeline -Segasonic the Hedgehog (My headcanon) -Sonic 1 -Sonic CD -Sonic meets Tails Origins cutscene -Sonic Chaos (Features 6 Chaos emeralds) -Sonic 2 8-bit (Silver Sonic is a prototype model of Metal that Robotnik unleashed in a desperate attempt to stop Sonic) -Sonic 2 16-bit -Sonic 3 and Knuckles -Sonic Triple Trouble -Knuckles Chaotix -Sonic Spinball -Tails Skypatrol -Sonic Labyrinth (Happens at the same time as Tails Skypatrol) -Tails Adventure (Tails learns to fly in his Sonic Origin's introduction cutscene, retconning Tails Adventure happening before Tails met Sonic) -Segasonic the Hedgehog (Offical placement) -Sonic R -Sonic the Fighters -Sonic Blast -Sonic 3D Blast -Sonic Mania -Sonic Mania Plus: Encore mode -IDW 30th anniversary comics -Fang the Hunter IDW miniseries -Sonic Superstars: Trio of Trouble -Sonic Superstars

My theory of metal sonic is that his an entirely different line of robots Since metal isn’t as strong in CD as his appearance in mania or in modern media with new moves like the dark shield I think the metal sonic we see in modern media is a mark 2 as I think robotnik went back on the metal concept of robots as he realised to beat sonic isn’t through over powering hedgehog but through speed

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Wait, if superstars is a classic game, how would they already know how to use the emerald powers?

I know the vid isn’t about this, but, I’m making my AU based on sonic and it’s large but it’s looking great actually xd

Here's my timeline: **-Sonic 1 (8-bit/16-bit, doesn't matter.)** **-Sonic CD occurs** -Sonic goes to West Side Island with his plane (Eggman finds a 7th chaos emerald in South Island while this is happening.) -Sonic Meets Tails (In Emerald Hill.) -Sonic and Tails go to South Island. -Eggman captures Tails **-Sonic 2 (8-bit) occurs. ** (Sonic has to rescue tails.) -After rescuing tails, Eggman steals the red chaos emerald from Sonic, annd Sonic and Tails have to chase him down and rescue South Island. **Sonic Chaos occurs.** -After saving South Island from sinking, Sonic and Tails head back to West Side Island. (Eggman goes to West Side Island as well, and finds out the new place where the chaos emeralds sleep. Eggman can finish constructing the Death Egg now.) -**Sonic 2 (16-bit) occurs.** (Sonic and Tails must collect the 7 chaos emeralds and destroy the Death Egg.)

I think superstars comes after the Genesis era because, in the final animatic of sonic origins, it showed environments similar to levels in superstars’ trailer.

I know you did this with your own headcanon, but I just would not be me if I did not at least point out what I thought was off 1. GG S2 just can’t work. Sonic and Tails know each other, even though S3 is now confirmed by Origins to directly take place after S2. There’s also only 6 Chaos Emeralds, and Sonic can’t do a Spindash. So it can’t be before or after S2. P.S. the Sonic 2 robot is called “Mecha Sonic.” The GG one is “Silver Sonic.” 2. The Tails games can’t work, as Tails Sky Patrol takes place after he’s met Sonic, yet the shy kid can apparently takedown villains by himself, when that definitely gets retconned with SA1, as that’s the whole point his development. I know you said you were only covering the Classic Games, but I didn’t know if you meant you were looking at these games in a limbo where 1998 never happened. Cause if we are going with that logic, than I guess many games can be okay since the number of Chaos Emeralds is not solidified until the Adventure games 3. Sonic going back to South Island doesn’t make any sense with the Japanese lore established in Sonic 1, as the Sonic Team games always describe Sonic as a world traveler with no home. Something even Modern Sonic is, as TailsTube has confirmed Sonic has no home. So him being on South Island in a lot of the GG games doesn’t make any sense 4. Although I get your reasoning, none of American Lore is canon to any of the games. 5. I have not heard of any official word talking about the timeline placement of SegaSonic. So please let me know where you got that information. But that aside. SegaSonic taking place before Sonic 1 could actually make sense, as the Japanese manual of Sonic 1 says that Sonic and Eggman have already fought before, and that him putting animals into robots is a new thing. So a game where Eggman is merely capturing animals and not turning them into badniks could fit for SegaSonic. 6. I will note that the Japanese manual takes place on the Planet Mobius, that Sonic, Tails, and Eggman travel to. Meaning that the planet Mobius is just another world besides Earth. 7. This video was made before TailsTube #5, where it is confirmed that Chaotix is canon. And the Jap manual makes it out that it happens extremely close to Sonic 3. As the aftermath of Angel Island landing in the ocean makes a new Island appear from below, where Knuckles and many others go to investigate it, and they run into Eggman. 8. Your Classic timeline, although I understand where you’re coming from, this still doesn’t work with the official canon, where it’s stated it’s all one timeline, with Flynn saying that Sega almost did a split-timeline, but that got scrapped and now we’re back to just having one timeline I haven’t read any of the Classic IDW books, so I don’t know how they touch on the canon

I mostly agree with you .

This is the first I'm hearing of people preferring a split timeline. I much prefer the canon explanation that the timeline does not split at all. (Forces was already chalk full of continuity errors anyway, so I choose to view it as a broad strokes kind of deal) Time travel in the Sonic series up till Forces never used multiverse theory and considering SEGA is taking steps to undo the Meta Era and go back to the more solid continuity I doubt Mania Adventures is canon. Personally I also would've put Mania at the end of the Classic era as it sets up the staus quo seen in Sonic 4. (assuming that game is still canon despite never being completed) Aside from that I think your attempt is pretty solid.

This Was Awesome! Do U Plan On Finishing This Timeline With Doing Modern Too?

Unrelated to the Classic era, but maybe Sonic 4 takes place in the Neo Classic timeline.

Nah because they mentioned Robotnik's Mean Beans in the Sonic Twitter Takeover. A lot of the things mentioned in the takeover are actually canon to the series now, like Shadow eating the coffee beans straight with a spoon. That was mentioned again in The Murder of Sonic the Hedgehog, so I'd say that it's pretty much still canon to the games. Although the game itself still might be set in the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog universe, his mean beans would still also exist in the game universe in my opinion.

I've been screaming this for a long while that Sonic Triple Trouble takes place right after Sonic Chaos also according to one of Lan Flynn 8 bit Sonic 1 is a completely different adventure than 16 bit Sonic 1 but I understand why you think that way

Sonic mania ,Sonic forces , Sonic mania plus and Sonic mania adventures

Is sonic advance and pocket adventure a classic game?

the phantom ruby probably made him trash at puyo puyo

bro 10k viewws? lets go

The Classic Sonic Timeline Sonic 1 Sega Sonic the Hedgehog Sonic 1 ( Game Gear/Master System) Tails Adventure Sonic CD Sonic 2 Sonic 3 and Knuckles Sonic Spinball Sonic 2 ( Game Gear/Master System) Sonic Generations ( Past) Sonic Chaos Sonic Triple Trouble Sonic Labyrinth - Tails Skypatorl Knuckles Chaotix Sonic 3D Blast Sonic Blast Sonic R Sonic Mania Sonic Forces ( Past) Sonic Mania Encore Mode Sonic Superstars Sonic Pocket Adventure

I think he took metal from the future

This guy need more love I’m the 2th to comment

Encore is canon, not Mania Plus lol

You didn’t mention hyper sonic😢

What about sonic 4?

Here is my head canon with evidence and some head canons. 1. Sonic Origins Collection. (This much is obvious. I will explain why Segasonic isn't here later) 2. Labyrinth + Skypatrol (We agree here) 3. Master System Quadruple (Mostly agree. In one of the Bumblekasts, Ian Flynn confirmed that Sonic 1 Master System is canon and a different adventure. So I put it after Sonic and Tails split for the first time) 4. Sonic Blast and Tails Adventure. (I do agree that Tails Adventure and Sonic Blast share a similar timeframe, being that Tails is absent. I initially thought that Tails Adventure was non canon but Origins+ has me questioning that assessment.) 5. Spinball (This changed from this video and deliberation. I initially thought that Spinball would be after Triple Trouble being that TT ends on the Tornado, and Spinball begins on it and ignored the design change. Now, I do believe that the design changes after Tails Adventure, as Tails probably would want to change the Tornado after his adventure against the Kukku Empire. Don't ask me why, it just makes sense to me.) 6. Sonic 3D Blast (Nothing much with 3D Blast, but I will say why I skipped Knuckles Chaotix later) 7. R and Fighters (Nothing really much to say other than I agree) 8. Segasonic the Hedgehog (Ian Flynn explained in another Bumblekast that Segasonic takes place after R, and I believe it takes place after Fighters too, based on their non involvement in Fighters) End of Normal Classic Era, and into Adventure Era with Sonic Advance. Neo Classic Timeline. 1.5 - Generations in Classic POV (I believe that Classic's POV is from Sonic 2 MS's adventure. Sonic is in Green Hills when the Time Eater does his thing. I note that Classic Tails doesn't show up in Generations until Sonic defeats Eggman in the Classic Era, where time is restored and Tails is no longer captured by Eggman. And yes, I believe that Sonic Gens makes an alternate timeline, and I will talk about that later.) 2-8. Games repeated 9. Sonic Mania (This has to be after Segasonic because of Mighty and Ray 'duh') 9.5 - Sonic Forces (Duh) 10. Sonic Mania Adventures. (The reason why I believe Mania Adventures is the more canon adventure than Encore is because, Encore is just the same adventure with a few color pallete swaps. Seriously, why do people think this is canon? My suspicions are confirmed in the trailers for Sonic Superstars because of one of them sporting a trap that looks exactly like the one that Eggman uses against Sonic in episode 1 of Mania Adventures) 11. Knuckles Chaotix (Ok here we go. Probably the biggest controversial take for the Classic Timeline. I think Knuckles Chaotix takes place after Mania Adventures, because in Episode 3 of Mania Adventures, Ray shows Knuckles a missing poster flyer for Mighty, and he just shrugs. He shows now recognition to the Armadillo whatsoever. Knuckles Chaotix has to go after Mania Adventures. As for the Chaotix recognizing Eggman in Heroes, Charmy doesn't know Eggman, but Espio knows, which makes sense, as he was in Fighters. I didn't mention Vector, because he most likely knows Eggman because of his worldwide broadcast of himself in Adventure 2. Even without fighters, Espio and Vector would know. The reason why I think Charmy doesn't know, was probably because it was nighttime and Charmy was sleeping during it.) 12. IDW Anniversary comics. (We agree) 13. Superstars (Yeah. No argument) Edit: Oops. Realized I forgot to mention what can make an Alternate Timeline be canon to the Modern Timeline. Well I found something extraordinary that can have both us Alternate Timeline people and Ian Flynn have what we want. The Dragon Break: A temporal phenomenon that involves a splitting of the natural timeline which results in branching parallel realities where the same events occur differently, or not at all… at the end of a dragon break, the timeline reconnects making all possibilities and outcomes truth, though contradictory to each other. This was made for Elder Scrolls, but I think it can be used well in the Sonic Timeline. Basically, in my opinion. Sonic Generations is the cause of the Dragon Break to happen and Sonic Prime will be the end of the Dragon Break, and that it will take place before the events of Sonic Frontiers, so that Sticks can be canon to the main games when Frontiers comes around.

bro wtf sonic mania on sega saturn?💀

putting generations after sonic cd doesn't make sense as classic Eggman doesn't recognize knuckles or amy.

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Sonic triple trouble doesn't make sense since knuckles gets trapped instead of getting betrayed