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He didn't play vanilla... he played private servers. I don't know how wowhead trusted him to write a guide when he didn't play it. Some of the things he said are inherently wrong.
I'm not bashing him bud... I'm pointing out a simple truth. The values on the private servers are different than blizzard's. Wowhead shouldn't be releasing guides based on private server data. As for you playing a warrior... good choice and I hope you have a blast.
Most ppl play private server vanilla that have anything to say about vanilla. There weren't that many super knowledgeable ppl in vanilla wow because most ppl were still figuring stuff out when bc hit. I wouldn't say his info is wrong and he said multiple times that he's not sure if how things will work in retail vanilla because of differences in private servers. It's still a good foundation of knowledge to have for starting out in vanilla. It's not like he's preaching this stuff like it's gospel truths. Take it with a grain of salt but that's better than nothing imo.
Minor correction. When talking about Alliance races, you guys forgot to mention the human's hidden racial ability. It reads: "Does not look like a gnome," and is FAR more powerful than all the gnome racial abilities combined.
Gnomes are great. Small size makes you look fast which always made leveling feel faster and smoother. Taurens on the other hand, Look amazing but the speed!
@@georgeegerog4175 gnomes think they stand out less, but in reality all horde players have an instinctual gnome awareness that triggers whenever a gnome is on their screen, causing them to go into a rage and attack the gnome relentlessly until it is dead
Loving how informative this video was, 90 minutes just flew by! Definitely hitting the notification bell so I can catch the next one straight off the presses 😁
I don’t know if I’ll even have time to play classic but I love listening to this type of content. You (Tip) are calm and removed from your ego so I wouldn’t prefer any other facilitator.
Mr. Zealous an ego represents your perception of yourself. In the context I was talking it has nothing to do with his knowledge. He does not try to insert his name or brand during the interview he allows the interviewee 100% of the time which is how it should be
Great breakdown, I'm hoping you can make a priest video with the same formula. And keep it long and detailed, you guys went through everything and I wish there was more videos like this on each class
Played warlock from vanilla for 4 years European Server Not NA Server.. Did all the raids got all the gear and then quit in wrath of the lich king. Cant wait to get back into my warlock build again. Great Video. Reminds me of the good old days. Its been many years since i played WoW. LOL going though all the gear options brings back memories of me having some or most of them.
Seems like everyone has their own preference on the best leveling spec. Most people want imp ds quickly, the guy in the video prefers a deeper demonology build and I prefer a glass cannon lifetap build.
Thanks so much for the content Tips. I'm so hyped for classic. I've been out since Cataclysm, but I'm all in for classic. I just hope I can find a good guild with decent people. That's what I miss most about this game.
I like how he had the leveling spec completely memorized...then had to remember the raiding spec..or at least make sure it was right. This guy loves warlock if he can recall that leveling spec and the order!
This many people are watching an hour and a half deep dive on one class for classic WoW. I'm betting that just like vanilla launch, Blizzard is vastly underestimating the amount of interest in this game.
I loved imalive's reaction to the BoSalv comment, such a polite guy. Great guide, lots of great information, immolation oil and HF combo is a great idea I hadn't thought of, that and many more, thanks guys
on the topic of which race to choose, Undead also has Cannibalize which i use while leveling as an out of combat mana regen technique. a few life taps and then use that on a mob. same thing with first aid bandages. after a fight use a bunch of life taps and then bandaid that s#it! Leveling a lock on a private server right now, level 57 and having the time of my life :D
Great video. Alive maybe isn't much of a PVPer but is there a chance of doing a follow up that is Warlock PVP focussed? I don't raid but I love PVPing and a spec/gear/strategy in depth video for Warlock PVP would be great as it is a massive topic.
i got you. I win every single fight leveling against every single class up to a few levels higher than me. never lost ever to anyone. Here is how: open up with 2 shadow bolts when you sneak up on stupid noob. talents leveling: go 5/5 corruption and 2-5/5 suppression. improved life tap is good too. then get 8 in demonology for your imp void walker. go 11 in destro asap because SBURN is your key to PVP. you are going to always move as you cast corruption and agony and sburn. either towards or away from target. Towards shamans, mages, druids cause they run away like pussies. vs hunter at level 40 you can Howl of terror hunter and his pet. get living action potions, invisibility potions. ALWAYS have healthstones. death coil makes warlock super easy at level 42. its like gg. you can use it to follow up with fear against melee classes. use void walker and sac him. i like to go 11 points in demonology so you can do a fast cast void fear recast void then new sac. use fear and bandades. always get first aid to 225 asap and buy the best heavy runecloth. bandaid is very good. Always use spellstones vs casters. it will give you like 25% more health in a bubble. watch out for dispell classes they will fuck you like shamans priests they can remove your shield. dont waste time with drain life. its total shit, only time you use it is very situational as a filler. vs another warlock fear is most important. also banish their pet void or they will sac it. when void is CC/banished it can not be sac. SBURN is key. you can do two per fight in pvp. takes 2 soul shards. always have a shit ton of shards for the pvp. cause after a pvp fight you need a new void walker, a new healthstone, maybe a new spellstone, and you burned 2 shards on sburn. thats 5 soulshards. always kill EVERY SINGLE PLAYER YOU SEE. know where the graveyards are and time their time to get back then gank them again. always expect an add player and be ready to fight again. always move away from other mobs and off roads cause other players will show up. and in vanilla, you can kite- run away its all about positioning. make sure you macro /laugh and other emotes to piss off the noobs that you kill. again- not a single class that can kill a good warlock. i never ever die to anyone as i level and i KOS everyone. also vs players on mounts. you can open with fear, open with seduce or if you really have to use death coil. after the dc you fear. you can kill them before they dismount or run away if you do it right. not a bad idea to life tap a bit to look weak so they dismount to fight you cause they are morons and dont realize you are going to own their ass.
@@markblaze4909 Yo thanks for the tips. On a fresh server would you immediately pick up Engineering and Mining for the PvP stuff like goggles and grenades ASAP for profs? Or something else? Would it be more efficient to buy potions you need with cash off the AH? Or rather to roll herbalism and alchemy instead?
@@markblaze4909 That all works but what happens when a rogue opens you, LAP's don't come cheap especially levelling when you won't have access to those herbs.
When he gets deep into describing the raid attack breakdown of spells you can really tell that he knows what he is talking about lol.. shadow this demonic that corruption this.. I'm so interested in rolling lock now. So much more to manage but sounds fun
Though I agree with 99% of your guide I have to say that Cataclysm beats Suppression or improved searing pain and that DS/ruin gets stronger during Naxxramas: Place 4 talent points in cataclysm and 0 in Suppression. A shadowbolt that costs 355 instead 370 will make you lifetap less (with mana regen and ms aproxx 1/12). A lock will use ~17 shadowbolts ~3 Corruption ~1 curse during a single BWL or MC bossfight. During AQ/Naxx era cataclysm is more profitable as shadowbolt lvl 10 costs 380 mana and life tap becomes a pain during some bosses (Princess Hurhuran etc) . However, as our fellow lock mentioned, we gonna have to deal with tons of adds/trash in AQ. So my suggestion is, you take those 4 points and place it right into Intensity - Pyroclasm. Not only you would be able to help tanks & healers by stunning the trash BUT you gonna increase the raid dmg in general ( that long corridor between 3rd and 4th boss >< )
Super tryhard tip: If you speedrun, you can spec into demonic sacriface with worldbuffs on. Sac a succubus and spec into another spec. You will have about 25min of +15% shadow damage for a tryhard speedrun in MC or BWL. Cost 100g, but worth it if you're going for the biggest damage possiple
In 1.12, are you still able to Sacrifice your Demon and have someone resurrect the Demon & retain the Sac Buff? Not sure what patch they fixed that in.
Would love to see some test raids with All the cards stacked in the locks favour. Shadow curse, SP Shadow mastery, RL allowing a small amount of dots, Salv if on alliance etc etc.
I tanked broodlord for around 15 seconds back in the day when I was geared AF on my lock. Got some of those massive crits and was like uh oh. Popped every cooldown and pretty much every consumable in the game, but it was pretty great. Raid spent the rest of the run joking I should get all the wrath drops :D
And this my friends is why classic was so amazing. They absolute amount of thought that went into these builds for different scenarios is amazing. Now days its...."which one does more damage.... Okay the other 2 specs are useless.. REEEEEEEEEE spam my 1 key!!!"
Is this a joke? Or are people this delusional? Classic wow is the king of spamming literally one button. Literally only one spec in modern wow comes close. I am excited for classic, don't get me wrong, but lets not pretend.
if you guys send some pics with your mythic raiding achievs from retail, then I will consider your bullshit. don't speak about what you don't know morons
no, you're supposed to tell people warlock's suck in vanilla, so there will be less of them. I mainly rolled sm/ruin back in vanilla and early tbc, I didn't raid past mc on my lock, mainly did dungeons. I'm looking forward to trying ds/ruin this time
it is nice, but after the rep grind is over you are no longer benefiting from it, whereas a gnome will always be benefiting from the increased int and engineering
Locks were a little meh early on. But around AQ or so they are amazing. DPS is great in raids. For pvp i rolled full destro and would shit on almost anyone. Most of the time you could shit on 2 or 3 players at once tbh. There was just so much control with a succubus and fear. I was over 100K HKs in vanilla.
What the hell is this guy doing with his talents?! Increased mana on your PET! above improved healthstone?! It's a minor thing but that doesn't make any sense... I also think affliction is wayyy better also for solo leveling, you don't really need your voidwalker's taunt to be better early on as your Dots take quite a while to remove threat from your voidwalker anyway so his taunt ability is already effective enough. And there's just so much better talents in affliction for leveling so I really don't get why you would take useless talents like fel domination early.
I used to sacrifice void Walker in vanilla for the health regen. T2 had 6 health regen. And used a trinket that had regen, lifestone. I never really died, not as much dmg as destro succ with fears and charms but I was able to survive more.
Question: 1:01:05 He says if you have 300/300 engineering you can activate the 3 piece bonus of the Bloodvine set. How is that possible? I don't understand.
@@Goorlel - But that doesn't make sense either... why would 300 tailoring automatically grant you the 3 set bonus? Crafting 3 "bloodvine" pieces grants you the set bonus. You can buy them off the AH, don't need either profession.
how do you level engineering the most effectively? should you take mining and skinning while leveling, then drop skinning in order to pick up engineering, then use the mining mats to level engineering, then drop mining to level tailoring after holding all the cloth you've acquired? how do you maintain the mats required for engineering without mining? Auction House? seems like you would go broke if you just buy everything on the AH. Also, which branch of Engineering are you supposed to go into? Goblin or Gnomish?
use alts to store the mats you get wile lvling, or ah the mats and buy them back latter but if it's a new server you wont be able to buy them back for the same price engineering only requires a set amount of mats to lvl and build the items you want, soon as you have enough you can drop minning.
I am leveling with a Soul Link demo build since I have fallen behind on leveling thanks to work. At 60 for PvP and solo I am looking at a 7/32/11 with one point tbd. And i want to try a 0/30/21 Master Demonologist/Ruin build for raiding, having the option to run 20% threat reduction seems rather juicy to me.
Would shadow mastery and demonic sacrifice be viable with a solid perminant 25% shadow dmg inc (ignoring destro tree) on paper it should work but never played vanilla, started in bc but raided in wrath
SM/DS is a perfectly viable endgame farming/Alternate raid damage spec. Its a less gear dependant spec than Ruin specs, When Farming as SM/DS you actually sac your voidwalker for the health regeneration. So you. Run around and dot up about 5-6 different mobs at a time and between 5 different ticks of siphon life, and VW regen you get so much life back, you lifetap a few times. The only amount of down time you will end up having with this spec is the time you have to wait for whatever you're farming to respawn.
"You don't really have enough time to multi-dot" when referencing Molten Core. Is this still true even after you revealed that private server boss armor coefficients were jacked up?
I didn't get there yet, but you can't dot in MC. There's a debuff limit of 16, there's no way your guild's gonna give you 4 of those :p shadowbolt all the way
