Classical Composer Reacts to Orion (Metallica) | The Daily Doug (Episode 222) 

That, and the fact that it was supposed to take place in the middle of sanitarium. What a country!

This is 100% correct my fiance literally just said that then we saw your comment a few minutes later.

This is the song that made me want to learn how to play bass. I've been listening to and playing Orion for 30 years now and I don't think I will ever stop hearing something fresh in it. It's truly a masterpiece. The ages of the guys when they wrote the Master album always blows my mind.

I love that!

I had an NDE and was granted 6 additional minutes

I bet he'd love this one

@@tristramcoffin926 I agree. I've always viewed it as miles ahead of Orion

To live is to die

The original s&m version.

Yes - the next Metallica instrumental to do. Another masterpiece with Cliff on bass. Cheers!

Knew that's who did it. Jason never went that high up on the fret board

@@adambee2224 You should listen to My friend of misery.

Cliff loved progressive rock too- especially Jethro Tull but then he would have - it being classically influenced. Metallica is actually listed in the Bible of Prog and related bands-Prog Archives. They were a huge influence, if not the inventors of modern prog/metal

So is the first solo at the beginning

Search: Cliff isolated bass Orion. Mind blown.

I knew but thanks bro, he was a god

How dare this mortal speak about drums during cliff's solo

@@The_Great_Letter_E for real

Written by Kirk

@@amber13666 no it was not

Good observation. That makes total sense.

Kill m all wasn't realy melodic

@@maakwatherrie Kill em all wasn't really Cliff's material as he wasn't the bassist when most of those songs were written. It was also heavily influenced by Dave Mustaine as it sounds more like early Megadeth.

Well said. i Saw Metallica live gig in 1990 in Italy . I am a gret fan of them , master of Puppets is a masterpiece of music

Cliff had no input on kill em all. But you can hear the difference between KEA and RTL/MOP

Interesting, never heard that before.

That's a very interesting piece of trivia. I would not have guessed those two songs could be linked together like that.

Brilliant bit of trivia! Love it :)

I bought a Black Beauty snare in 1987 literally because of this story and this album in particular! Great sounding versatile snare. Rimshots sound massive on it!

Wow that's really cool!

Exactly. This is never an issue for them to end a song without a “fade to black”. This was done on purpose due to the fact it suited the fade in. Had to edit fade to black in there😂

I think it was done in purpose 'cause it blends so well with the brutal beginning of Damage Inc, the song after Orion on the album....

I mean, that’s interesting and all, but I still kinda don’t like it. I guess I just like it when songs just have endings. Orion is still a great piece of music though.

@@patoubel Yes because people used to listen to entire albums and such things were considered.

The fade out is meant to match the fade in at the beginning. The song is infinite. Put it on a loop.

5:27 haha! Edit: 6:23 actually!

Yeah, not a reaction, he's heard this before. Seems to me he was into metal before going classical

@@dorianvaz7572 he s sleeping !

@Revenge Class no way

@Revenge Class go back to sleep

@Revenge Class ???

...hmm, in this interpretation i kinda like those effects ...

Kinda like, life is traveling the unknown road, you never fully understand it, but you get a glance of greater things.

Perfect interpretation of Orion. 🤘🏻

Orion is a constellation!? I had no idea...I just thought he was the son of Poseidon and the Gorgon Euryale, was slain by a giant scorpion at the will of Gaia and made into a constellation by Zeus (this is why Orion and Scorpio are never in the sky at the same time)...

😍

THIS

The studio version had the typical unrefined recording quality that Metallica really evolved Metal with... but if you review this track, you MUST do a follow up or a double commentary on the song in these two ways: 1) Evaluate the studio recording for us, as you usually do, and 2) View one of the early performances of it (eg.: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Y-G4PTysacI.html). Cliff didn't just compose or perform the music, Cliff WAS the music. If they were contemporaries... imagine Cliff Burton and the late, great Jimmy Hendrix on stage together. Honestly, I'm not sure how critical a drummer would have been because they could've probably played a 4 hour improvised show, just the two of them. IMHO.

he did

That song brings tears to my eyes...it's so heart wrenching.

The clean interlude makes me cry everytime....

I was really really really into Metallica for about 10 years, and then my tastes just sorta wandered and I kinda stopped listening for about another 10 years. Nothing on purpose, was just gravitating toward other genres. Reading this comment just made me choke. Some things just never die.

I was gonna say, another cliff classic...

I was recently watching an interview with Kirk Hammett, and he said that Orion was originally a middle part of To Live Is To Die, but then they developed it into a song of its own. Edit: here's the interview ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bPy8YyUgxyA.html

you mean Doug

Yup, I think he missed it lol

@@scope81 maybe he did, maybe he forgot to point it out as he was mentioning something else. Doesn't matter, many may miss it as this is a very unconventional sound even to this day. I know I missed it for a few *years* not just the first time I listened to this song.

@@scope81 I doubt he missed it, it's not very substantial or really worth a mention. It's not like it was minute or longer where it would've been more remarkable.

He missed the bass solo while talking about drums 🤣

Did James write that part?? It’s my favorite part of this song

@@calvinsomers1197 yes he did!

@@calvinsomers1197 James doesn't get enough credit for his guitar work.

@@calvinsomers1197 Yeah its James solo but im pretty sure Kirk plays that solo whenever they play Orion live, idk why.

But 8:22 was played by Kirk though, I mean when I watch them live he always plays that part so I assume it's also Kirk playing this on the record. Cause why would Kirk play James's solo live? Doesn't make any sense. Could just be that James wrote that part for Kirk cause sometimes they write riffs for one another. James's guitar also doesn't sound like that tbh.

agreed also nice pfp 👌

It also brings the piece full circle. I interpret it as Orion the hunter. The whole piece feels like a gazelle on the plains that comes to a watering hole and is hunted down by some apex predator.

Into Eternity does something similar like this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IQbK0vrIlaI.html

@@Refr619 One of Ku favorite songs by them. Buried in Oblivion is their best album in my opinion, their masterpiece.

@@georgegordian I agree with you about the "full circle" part. 👍🏼The metaphor I'd use, though, is more like two ships on the sea, or two cars on the road, coming closer and traveling within each others sight (and hearing) for a time. As if... the song started long before we started listening, and this is only a little piece of it that we are privileged enough to hear, and then, it fades from our hearing as we get more distant from each other, but the song will continue and sound totally different (but just as awesome!), and the next traveler they come into contact with will hear the next part of the masterpiece.

100%, yes, they're part of a continuum - I always think of the opening bass bit on Damage, Inc. as really part of Orion. When I first heard the Master of Puppets album, I listened to it on cassette, where there's no clear track delineation as with streaming, MP3, CD or even LP record. As someone who rarely listens to these songs out of sequence from the album's continuity, I retain that impression.

Hope you are recovering from your loss mate

Fuck, man. I’m so sorry to hear that. Thank you for sharing with us. Orion is definitely a special song. What were some of your other fav songs to play together? Metallica or any other band

@@DizzyDez613 dude you’re reply made me smile. Thank you for taking that time for a total stranger! We played almost everything from RTL to Garage Days. We crushed “One” and “Nothing Else Matters” at two different battles, winning for NEM. I have a rusty video of me playing NEM briefly at his Grave this year. I just miss him, man. Where would I be if he was still in my life? He’d be married, I’d be an uncle…his mother lost her older child to cancer, and a short while later her husband took his own life. She’s moved. I hope she’s well.

@@F3PIZZA Wow. Nailing One is no small feat. And that’s crazy you played NEM at his grave. Must have been tough. His poor Mom. Two children gone and then a spousal suicide. It’s pretty fucked up sometimes. I lost a friend recently as well (June 2020). We were best friends in high school, but drifted apart in our later teens. We had reconnected after like 2 decades. I saw him once. Then he died in a car accident. I’m lucky to have seen him that one time I guess.

this is our favorite song to play too, i understand what you are saying

Me too..I was like 16...Mindblown

Wow. Same concert, same age, in Tucson AZ. Got to see Cliff live before he passed. He was the greatest Thrash musician that ever lived.

Lucky bastard!...lmao😄😉

Same Louisville ky

I too saw that tour. It was metallicas master of puppets tour and Ozzy ultimate sun. Saw it in Charlotte. I was freshman in high school. Metallica kicked Ozzy’s ass and it was just them four standing in one spot banging out that music and banging their heads.

Interesting.

Fun fact Orion and Damage Inc. Were one song originally on their demo, they then split and became two esperate full songs, but that is why it fades so well into Damage Inc.

Lars is the guy who does most of their arrangement as well. People love to rip on his drumming skills, but there's no doubt Metallica would not be what it is today without him.

And song arrangement/structure.

@@paytonmacdonald1409 It was originally Orion and Sanitarium which were splitted.

Said exactly how I would especially the stargazing part.

James has had a guitar made out of some wood that was part of the garage where they wrote the album and Cliff is represented on it as Orion.

And the fade-out from Orion into the whale sounds Cliff makes at the beginning of Damage, Inc wouldn't work any other way.

Cliff was a genious, I don't know if he had any formal classical music background, but they say he used to listen to a lot of baroque music.

Cliff couldnt have said it better. Cheers.

Ktulu would be a great song, but I think the studio version might be better. Either way, it'd be good.

@@zddoodah agree

If you want Doug to react to Ktulu, you have to make it a double header with Master of Puppets right behind. The sequence of these two songs is probably the best opening of all Metalica albums. But Battery is truly the crown jewel of S&M.

Agree. 👍🏻🤘🤘

@@miltocteixeira I agree with your agreement if you agree that your agreement agrees with my agreement.

I joined in 2017 and this song was my theme to get through. Although from what I hear it was supposed to be easier to do when I went haha

@Geriatric FecalPhiliac How are you going to tell him what happened in his own life? 😂

Same here. And it’s no mistake that Orion happens to be a star constellation.

Me.too!

Same here bro.

the only time i get the goosebumps from it is when it's played on vinyl.

it gives me goosebumps it´s so old

+1 ALL THE TIME

Absolutely!!! It always will.

I know that video. It's really great.

I like that. I always imagined it like a sort of stellar hurricane, with the chill part in the middle being the eye of the storm.

I came here to say the exact same thing but you beat me to it! I wonder if that was their intention when they wrote it.

The fade at the start is perfect, because the Bass lead the path, Orion Live performance has a no Fade ending, indeed. No complain in fade at studio.

Could you find and post the link to this vid please. 🙏🤘🏻

he wrote that

Needs to react to that one

Yes ineed!!

Cliff Burton's masterpiece. Metallica has so many killer songs it stretches the definition of "masterpiece." Can you have 10 masterpieces?

That whole album is a masterpiece! I can only imagine the music he would be making today if he was still alive! Gone way too soon...

You guys are serious?

@@Purplexi Yeah. Do not argue about taste. Be a gourmand and everything is fine! :D

Really my favorite Metallica song. I love it so much!

How do you listen to an isolated track?

@@noodlemans I just look it up on RU-vid

I like this "8D" version of Orion that's on youtube, it splits the instruments and makes them spin around your head separately if that makes sense. It allows you to focus on the bass without having to miss out on the rest of the track.

Right, the triplets after the intro in the E/G backwards power chord pump part, Cliff hits the triplet every time, James doubles it every fourth time, all of the things you can't really hear clearly on the album

the way it blends into Damage Inc. makes it fitting in context of the album, but seems lazy on its own.

@@Zfrk not really. Bands do some of their albums all at once, which is why the songs sound the same.

Badass

May Cliff rest in person 😔

Sick

@My Dixie Wrecked Wow, I had no idea Anesthesia was part of Orion

@My Dixie Wrecked Yeah no shit Sherlock, the original comment was talking about the solos in Orion, which is why your reply is stupid

Another great one. As good of a metal voice as James, I find it difficult to say some of my favorite songs are instrumentals.

I recommend that too! Great instrumental with Cliff Burton's influences. And if you listen this, focus on what Cliff is doing in the background with the bass. Cool stuff.

I would say "The call of ktulu" (live version with the orechestra) and "To live is to die" (1988 studio version)

Master, IMHO, absolutely IS Metallica's greatest album - in all regards! Musicality, lyrics, harmony, rhythm, song writing, performance, flow, structure, clarity, production, etc. It will live in Metal history as the album that took Metallica to greater heights, Black album or no. This is an album that was a major turning point in metal, as was Megadeth's Rust In Peace and Slayer's Reign In Blood. If I had only one album of Metallica's to ever listen to again, it would be Master of Puppets.

@@seanzigmund858 yes man! This is what separates MOP from Justice: the song structure and the production! The segues like on the song master of puppets, acoustic intro to battery, galloping intro riff to disposable heroes, the intro to damage inc had a dynamic & multidimensional sound that was absent to me on Justice. Although Justice was great, some songs still seemed like a demo state where they didn't reach full potential or frutiion. Something I know Cliff would be able to really change if he had his hands on them.

"Rare psychedelic rock". What? :P

master of puppets - best metallica album ever

Yeah the pacing is nearly perfect on this album. The had a similar pacing-structure on Ride the Lightning, except they ended that one on the Epic Call of Ktulu, which totally worked for that album. Here the epic instrumental is followed by the thrash-blast that is Damage Inc, which is perfect for this album. The structure of both albums is the same though, and IT WORKS! ...And Justice For All also has the same structure, basically, but it's not as apparent since that entire album is so heady, heavy, and progressive. Fast aggressive thrasher - Title song - slow chuggy song - "Ballad" - Thrashy pick me up after "Ballad" - Heavier mid-tempo song - Thrasher / Epic instrumental - Epic instrumental / Thrasher. Only the two last songs switch around between the two albums, with ...And Justice reprising the Epic-Thrasher two last songs in the structure.

Agree friend I think when Cliff pass away Metallica did to. Look how gd first 3albums with him perfect. RTL MOP are probably best metal albums of all time

@Nathan Henneka Lars and James are Metallica. Cliff was an OK bassplayer and maybe contributed some cool ideas here and there, but 80% come from the brains of Lars and James.

@@pietdijkman1980 incorrect. Burton gave them tbeir musicality. And their soul. Neither of which exists any more.

I totally agree....I think the black album wouldn’t have been made and I think Metallica would’ve mastered thrash further ...

@@kevinbrown5093 Strangely, while now I consider the self titled album to be excellent, back when it came out, we thought it was a massive departure from their sound and from the brutality that we knew and loved. As I get older I realize I can't expect to remain at the top of my game forever, but they were still fairly young when that album was produced. Subsequent albums, while musically acceptable, were seriously watered down. But hell, Load was a commercial success and I guess they deserved it after their vodka and soup days.

i was just thinking how i wish i could go back and hear it for the first time again

He's heard this song before. At 7:10 he sings the melody as it's happening. Also knows the names of the guys in the band. He was into metal before becoming a composer, 99% sure

Id love to be able to unwatch and unlisten to my most favourite and life changing media, so i could experience them for the first t ime again. Nothing better than experiencing some art that becomes your love for the first time. I love those moments.

Same, still one of my favorite songs ever.

Never get sick of it.. Put your head phones on, lay down in a close your eyes and go on the orion

drunk guys in their early 20s. but nevertheless, indeed genius

@@ali965 Haha! A buncha drunk hooligans writing epic opuses for shits and giggles

Neither Kirk Hammet nor Las Ulrich are talented.

@@erickarias3309 If neither were talented they wouldn't be where they were, Lars especially

@@BeatlesCentricUniverse wrong

I'd say inspired. I remember the interview where Kirk said that Cliff showed him the intro and said 'that is inspired by Come sweet death by Bach'. Kirk listened to Bachs song and replied to Cliff that it didn't sound like that. Cliff replied, smiling 'That's great'

One last caress

What's even MORE amazing is this was released in 1986 and he's never heard it till now?!

Something stank and I want some.

@@everythingoutdoors4079 now now, we all are not as lucky as you and I in having heard this for years. I'm sure he's heard beautiful stuff he can't believe WE haven't heard of, you know? ☺️

@@jontraz5993 Good point! Right on, rock on!

I know plenty of people who are familiar with "modern" Metallica. Watching them react to some of these "originals" is priceless.

I’ve always noticed that. One of my favorite elements of the song (except for the guitars of course, lol).

Maybe it's because Lars Ulrich's drumming on its own isn't that overwhelming.

exactly, masterpiece

I’ve never noticed that and heard this song thousands of times probably That’s bad ass

This is exactly why I've always enjoyed Lars' playing on these early albums. He does these little variations that keep listening for the drums interesting. Check it out on for example To Live Is To Die.

Never thought of that angle, but I like it.

Indeed.

Yeah it Orion fade sets up the Damag Inc. intro really well.

I agree with that sentiment. It wouldn't work all the time, but for a song as strong as this one, it makes it feel like the song never ends and just always exists out there in the ether....like the song is just passing us by.

@@LS1Formula That’s exactly it for me, like if it’s a sound continuum to which a window is opened and then shut down again slowly (even if it doesn’t end exactly like it started, bu that’s the feeling).

If I remember correctly there were actually many takes for Anesthesia, but every single one was different minus 1 or 2 licks. Truly an amazing player.

@@KazeAkiyama there are live clips of him playing parts of Anesthesia pre-Metallica, it's one he'd been playing and messing with for years in a live situation.

I'm honestly _amazed_ at what he was able to pull off using "just" the bass. Out of all the songs in MetallicA's portfolio, _this one_ probably had the greatest impact on me - simply because before then, I was just _not aware_ that you can _play a bass like that_ and "get away with it". After that, I started noticing the bass more and more, and I don't think I've looked at music in the same way since.

He is simply one of the greats. He is the reason why I play bass. And an aria pro bass aswell. He is my idol. The way he writes on bass is just so incredible.

"Cliff is one of the greatest bass players that has ever lived. " I'm still curious why people say that. You have only ever herd him play in Metallica and sadly only on three albums before he died in the crash and a lot of hte iconic stuff came straight from his practice room. So did he really play better on those albums than you have ever heard anybody else play? Better than Claypool? Wooten? Bailey? Lemmy? Davey504? Newstead?

This is a great thought experiment. James was wanting to confront some demons in his life experience and write some more emotional and introspective songs, which I really respect. However, I simply don't like Metallica post-Justice. There are some great tracks on the black album, but they're not thrash Metallica and the album for me signals the beginning of the end for the band. Those great tracks (The Unforgiven is my favorite on that album) are kind of bittersweet. So bringing Cliff into the discussion and speculating on what he would have brought to their evolving sound is super interesting.

I don't think Cliff would have been willing to stand Bob Rock.

People forget Cliff’s range of music influence. I’m not so sure he would resist the direction they went into postJustice. As far as progressive, they went as far as they thought they could go, do that’s why they changed direction.

Their wallets were ready for a mainstream sound and so would Cliff if he lived and so would you if you were in their shoes.

They wouldn't have been as big if Cliff lived. That is for sure.

There you see I like that and I thought they're Canadian or were stopped by their customs and didn't come to Eindhoven dynamo open air that year hahaaa long ago he, gdayyy

This is a great choice!

Agreed!! I would also love to watch the reaction for "To Live is to Die"

my favorite Metallica instrumental piece.

I'd recommend watching Andriy Vasylenko's video about To Live is To Die, because actually it seems likely that Cliff didn't write any of the music of the song, and more likely came up with the wording of the spoken word quote.

@@IveGotAMatch im getting my info from the VH1 behind the music featuring metallica, they talked about cliff and that main riff saying he wrote it, if my memory serves me correctly.

My big brother loved Puppets as much as I do, he also passed (41yrs, I was 36). We also saw Metallica live together, twice. Great memories for sure. Also YNWA KonmaN - go reds!

Damn, you're killin me. My youngest brother passed at 39 and we also spent our lives at many shows including Metallica. His first was Ozzy at 13, I was 21. I raised him right 🤘

@@thedreamer4846 Thank you...I did not check in utube for a while & was somewhat worried about responses but yours made me smile with a tear. You know the pain too, I hear ya pal, even if you were a UTD fan I hear ya. Thanks for taking the time to reach out, appreciate it. It means a lot to know I am not alone & I hope you know it to. Grief is a bugger eh?

@@deanmays7133 Wow, me & my Bro 1st gig was Ozzy supporting DIO in Dublin in early '80's - you raised him right for sure. Real life & shit happenes but we always have that gig with our brothers. Nice to share that thought, perhaps both of 'em are rocking together, along with the dreamers bro & others who care to Rock! (I would like to think I will when my time comes) Peace

@Dean Mays @KonmaN YNWA - I feel your pain my friends, we share in something undeniably tragic and impossible to get over. I have learned to embrace the pain. It stays with me, and can strangely bring me comfort now. We never argued in our lives - not even once! Not even as kids! I'm just incredibly lucky to have had a bro like him.

Concur that you should give a listen to "To Live is to Die"

cliff only wrote the spoken lyrik,he is not on the musik side there.

You are forgetting my fav metallica song without lyrics When hell freezes over, so underrated

Funny you say that. Doug said he couldn't tell who was playing lead guitar during the baroque lilting part in the middle. In the original studio version of this song, all three of those guitar parts are bass guitar, each played by Cliff, then layered. As a guitarist, I wondered for a long time how the tone of the guitars had that odd timbre. Turns out, if you hit those high notes on a bass, it sounds quite like the song. If you listen closely, you can hear James and Kirk come back in for the second guitar solo, effectively replacing the layered bass lines.

​@@timothyjames3332 That's really interesting, they play it live with guitars so I always assumed... but I can hear it now. So for the "solos" then (according to the time in this video) I hear: 3:47 - Bass - Cliff 5:16 - Guitar - Kirk 6:22 - Layered harmonized bass - Cliff 8:22 - Guitar - Possibly James - kinda sounds like a James solo but I'm not sure 8:40 - Bass - Cliff 9:06 - Guitar - Kirk

@@tubeannoyYour timestamps are exactly what my ears are telling me, too. The only thing you presented that I take issue with is the "James solo". Usually when there's a rhythm guitar going, that's what Hetfield is playing. We could speculate about left/right channel until the end of time, but that speculation wouldn't have much merit, as one could simply turn their headphones around and be right. On technique, James' lead chops tend to be based around the chord structure, and don't stray too far from being able to hop back into the rhythm. People tend to label slower guitar solos as Hetfield's, but I think that's more often not the case. Did James write and record solos in Orion? I don't know, maybe. My suspicion is that it's all Kirk, though.

More like cliff

@@timothyjames3332 Yes. On the early albums they would specifically list when James took a solo because it was so rare at the time. On MoP he's credited with two: One on the title track and one on "Orion." I was always under the impression that James played the harmony parts, and I've read interviews where he's taken credit for them. For what it's worth, though, the official tab book shows three guitar parts, one of which is a good bit lower than the other two. Obviously tab books should be taken with the proverbial grain of salt, but it's possible that Cliff played the low part and James played the higher parts. Otherwise @tubeannoy's analysis sounds right to me. I thought 8:22 was Kirk at first, but I could be wrong.

Me too man. It made Orion my favorite constellation. Every time I look up to the stars and see it, this tunes rings in my head... God bless Cliff Burton!

Best metal album of all time and I don't see it ever being topped.

Is it that old ??? I'm just 21 years old and I'm hearing this for the first time. Ain't my favorite though, I'm not that into Metal, mostly just Rock/hard rock

best piece of music ever written

@@tristramcoffin926 That is a good point and most likely, yes, time limits on vinyl dictated song length and arrangement

To me, the song begins with the melodic bass part in the middle (the 6/8 F#, A, E melodic thing). The "end" would naturally be the part that winds down right before that. We fade in to and out of the middle of the song, as it were.

Man, I second this so hard. To Live is To Die is my top instrumental just because of the emotions that were put into the song . You can definitely feel them.

Can you imagine if Cliff got to contribute to the AJFA Album and more specifically To Live is to Die?

I second this with every fibre of my being.

Used to listen to this on tape while delivering auto parts. Damage Inc caused road rage.

Not really.

@@erickarias3309 actually, this is true. They were included in 2015. First metal band to be selected.

@@erickarias3309 yes really

They are freaking INCREDIBLE! We got to see them live a couple of years ago - amazing to see that they’re flawless live too

I just watched that. MARSHALLS??? WEE DOAN NEEED NO STEEENKIN' MARSHALLS!!!!😎 Flawless, on every level.

This sentiment makes me feel good.

Im just introduced myself to metal and from a few friends at the start of the summer. Just found this song about a month ago. Its crazy entering this new genre. Still have lots to discover

@@jdr-gd8kg enjoy the journey fellow traveler

@@jdr-gd8kg Oh i envy you the discovery, Metallica opened a new world for me when i picked up Ride the lightning in 1984, they have been with me through good times and bad ever since. I wish you all the best in your journey.

I listened to Metallica once in a while, but there was a phase in which I used to listened to metal music every day like 10 years ago, I even learned I few Metallica songs in my guitar back in the day

Orion is a constellation, you can ‘t go there, you’ll have to choose one of its stars. But I get your point. It’s a great piece.