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Sam Hewitt I'm not trying to be rude, CLC are my QUEEEEENNSSS, but did you really think they had a chance :(. Their was twice, seventeen, everglow, who are so popular, and then their is CLC, who only got one win and they debuted in 2015. And Feel Special won, coming from the future of this comment, people have never given CLC the justice they deserve.
@@Christian-mt5jx difficult moves dont have to be backflips or complicated strong dance, positioning can be great and attract eyes. Watch the whole clips again 99% of their positions are station. The cameras move in hobgoblin but not much for them. They do dance but station mostly. Not until "ME" show a little different. But still comparing with others, you can easily find out the different.
They released so many bops this year. This was the best year in their careers. 2019 is one for the books. I stanned the right group. let’s go Cheshire’s.
I agree but still crystyle has only bops and I still listen to that album without skip. No 1 album comes a close second, freesm also has many bops.. How could I forget the black dress era and all the bops in that album too
짜증나서 쓴다 페페 데뷔곡 치고 정말 잘 나왔음 실력도 신인이라기에 춤 라이브 장난아니었음 그리고 당시 청순 여돌 느낌이 아니라 독특하고 까칠한 이미지로 나와서 좋았는데 갑자기 다음 활동부터 청순청순 여돌 이미지고 바뀌고 페페 때 반응 싹 없어짐(이게 가장 큰 문제) 그러고 도깨비로 현아가 작사 안무 의상 콘셉트 등 다 잡아줘서 반응 장난 아니었음 근데 또 정신 못 차리고 청순 소녀 이미지로 가려고 함 그러고 사람들 다 떠나가고 그제서야 정신 차리고 블랙 드레스로 컴백함 이때 그냥 레전드였음 유튜브에 커버 영상 엄청 올라오고 반응 대박이었는데 역시나 큐브 홍보 잘 안 해줘서 아쉬웠음 그러다 전소연이 대박 곡 가져와서 NO로 또 대박 침 음방 첫 1위 하고 인기도 많았는데 이미 큐브가 홍보도 잘 안 하고 망쳐서 팬 유입이 크지 않았음 그러고 me랑 Devil, helicopter로 반응 좋았는데 또 큐브가 큐브 함. 노래 춤 비쥬얼 개개인 능력 상위권인 애들이 아직도 많이 못 뜬게 서럽고 아쉽다/ 이제 하다하다 홍대표님 돌아와서 다시 자리 잡고 올라가려고 하니까 회사 인수 당하고 바뀐 대표 때문에 그냥 버려지네 시팔 S급 그룹으로 장난질 하고 버린 큐브는 이제 아가리 여물어라 짜증나니까
it's a crime they didnt win with hobgoblin... literally no other group has changed their concept that fast and efficiently and has made it WORK as well as clc did.
Many here will disagree on what I will comment. I have been in clc since PREDEBUT. I watched 5 of them during busking and discovered how talented vocally they are. Pepe was really a great debut with good response from Korean netizen followed by their Eighteen single. In korea, even other international fans were expecting much more on their next comeback where in LIKE was the title song, many was disappointed that time because it is too cutesy than Pepe and many knets also hate clc that time because of Yeeun senior disrectful scandal which was only a misunderstanding, they and yeeun personally said sorry but of course, we all know Koreans if it's about bad attitude, dating, or any rookie issue they easily got disappointed. They have cf and activity throughout the year after Like album, there was only rumor to comeback before the end of the year however cube moved the comeback for strategic marketing of clc, this was the wrong move of cube as JYP new rookie group TWICE catch every Korean attention and forgot CLC and other girlgroup debuted in 2015, even international fans were focus on TWICE. when Produce 101 begun, we didn't expect that Eunbin will be added in clc, Eunbin was usually entered top 11 during Produce season but when cube announced her addition to Clc, her position drop and removed from produce 101 in rank 32. Cube originally planned to add Elkie and Eunbin late of the year 2015 for better promotion korea and international but cube plans failed because knets complained again for them in adding in the group in HIGH Heels. However, did you know that CLC were well loved when they debut in Japan in 2016 with Elkie? Their vocals were much more stronger adding Elkie in the team when they have another comeback with NO OH OH, a very punky cute song which sounds like Pepe and officially become the debut of their maknae Eunbin. The company problem again occur during 2016 when cube disbanded 4minute, cube focus on delayed Pentagon debut and Beast leaving cube after contract ends. In 2017, Knets and international, shocked again when cube announced a revamp of image to clc, an image where many Koreans and international argue and hate the most because cube give 4minute concept to clc, where in fact, 4minute will no longer in company so their songs should be given to their only one cube girlgroup, however many negative knets and international complain making clc a hot topic, many also appreciated clc revamp image and pay attention to them. In 2017 also, clc shows their summer concept in a different concept again, clc said that they wanted to show how versatile their music are. Where are you, their title track are so different from Hobgoblin, their revamp image. Where are you showcased how smooth their vocals are, shows how versatile they are as a group, in that Era, they uploaded 3 performance or practice video for the fans showing different three concept of girlgroup. However, many people Koreans especially international left again the Fandom and hate the group for keep changing concept, they don't understand what clc is showing to them, they are just preoccupied with the baddass concept and did not appreciate how powerful and diverse clc comeback on that time. Do you know that there are additional Korean cheshires added in that Era, and a lot of international fans left or didn't pay attention to them that time? In 2018, clc again showed off different and more mature of self with black dress, this time their album sales increase which means they getting the attention of Korean market as well as international. Many appreciated them as they found a concept fit for them. However due to another cube bad decision of delaying their comeback with LA vie rose and now LA vie rose was given to rookie group, Cheshire didn't hate ozone but instead hate cube decision to sell the song that clc recorded already. In 2019, yeeun said that they were blessed that even they didn't get that songs they are blessed a song that most fitted to them thus NO was created, making the most selling album of clc since debut, and get their first win and second win. Me will be a great follow up, cube make better decision for them as me received also positive feedback from Korean. Remember guys, be humble as a clc fans, Cheshire. Success doest come overnight. It needs hardwork, patient, humbleness and practice hard. A success that gets discouragement or struggles are so much worth it than a success that easily get by a snap of finger. A group cannot be forcefully love or like by certain people and automatically became a fan. When they finally see their talents, I'm sure the will come to clc and stans them ultimately. AS A CHESHIRE, we should not look to others success, their success is not our failure. Remember each person or group has their own time to shines and I believe clc are doing great and will get it soon. Just patiently wait for this without talking bad to other group because it will not help clc to become popular or get the success, let's be a Fandom that clc will be proud of, not a Fandom that fires bad to other just to raise up our clc. If haters come, just let them bark, they are there only as our strength to push more on supporting clc. Don't comment back to them, just report or block them. Or just leave them because maybe in the future they will become cheshires because they are so updated in any clc activity, because of their dovoted bad comments they might stan clc accidentally. Just be happy guys. Look at this. We can get third comeback soon. So prepare yourself for another goal for clc.
I knew CLC because of Hobgoblin and I liked the concept but wasn't ready to stan. I needed to see more of their talents. And when they came out with Where Are You, I was genuinely shocked at how versatile these girls could be. The fact that they could do a 180 and perform so well during Where Are You got me to stan CLC because a lot of talent and dedication is required to have such skill. But I have to say that Cube were very bad at managing CLC. I was a BTOB fan since 2013/14 and I did not even know that Cube debuted a girl group in 2015. Only in 2017 with Hobgoblin was I introduced to CLC.
비운과 운영 실수가 망친 그룹... 1. 데뷔년에 최유진 직캠이 뜨기 시작하는데 큡이 저작권으로 음소거, 화제를 스스로 막음 2. 프듀 참가 중인 권은빈이 그룹에 추가될거라 해서 순위 급하락 (다른 소속사는 일단 프듀 끝을 보고 이런 소리를 함), 어차피 처음엔 음방 참여 못하고 권은빈 뮤비 파트 통편집 3. 포미닛 해체 후 걸크러쉬 컨셉으로 갈아타 도깨비로 해외 반응이 뜨거웠는데, 다음 컴백은 여름에 어디야... 반응이 미지근하자 1주일만에 활동곡을 썸머키스로 바꿈 4. 2018년 명곡 블랙드레스 때 '단발머리 걔' 등으로 관심 받지만, 후배그룹 아이들이 역대급 데뷔를 가지자 6월 라비앙로즈 컴백계획이 늦춰지고 작곡가가 그 사이 퇴사하면서 곡을 들고 감... 멤버들은 장미 사진 올리면서 티저하고 있었는데 소속사는 곡을 확보도 하지 않았던 듯 5. 1년만에 컴백 NO로 첫 1위를 가지자 소속사가 제대로 밀어주기 시작, ME와 Devil로 컨셉 확고히 하고 총 3번이나 컴백. 소속사는 2020년에도 많은 음악을 낼거라 함 6. 2020년 1월 엠카 스페셜 스테이지를 가지지만, 2월에 큡 주주가 바뀌고 코로나가 터지면서 모든 계획 사장됨 (많은 음악을 내기는 커녕 싱글 1개 냄) 7. 팀 활동이 더 이상 없을 거라 들은 엘키는 탈퇴, 최유진은 걸플999 참가. 새 주주에게 미운털이 박혔는지, 최유진 제데뷔 성공에 대한 말은 하나 없고, 소속사는 최대한 CLC 없는 척을 하려고 함 (소속 연예인은 다 하는 추석인사를 얘네만 안 시킴) 데뷔한 2015년부터 회사 내분이 일어나고 있어서 그런지 모르겠지만 이 정도로 진짜 뜰 듯 하면서 뜨지 못한 그룹은 다섯 손가락에 들 듯... 치열한 업계라지만 뭔가 미스테리하게 운이 없음...
dld srkzz 성과없어도 계속 밀어서 띄워야하는게 호속사의 할일입니다. 사실 큐브㉮ 신인 제대로 밀어준건 큐브 주축이 되는 아티스트들 나간 뒤죠. 지금도 비투비 반은 군대가있고 아직 군대 안간 멤 많아서 완전체 되기까지 오래 걸리니깐 밀어주는거죠 그런 면에서 큐브는 전적이 많기때문에 제대로 된 마케팅이 시급합니다
사랑해이사쿠 인성논란은 충분히 커버 가능했죠. 애초에 큐브티비 론칭하면서 시작한 리얼리틴데 그때 논란일수도 있다고 조금이라도 생각했으면 편집 가능하고. 아니면 진정성있는 사과 하면 되는데 회사에서는 아무 피드백도 없이 묵묵부답. 신인이 무슨 힘이 있겠어요. 회사에서 가만히 있으라면 있어야지. clc가 못뜬 이유는 소속사가 초반에 푸쉬를 잘못해준 탓이 크죠. 연생때부터 승희 유명하기도 했고 유진이도 귀여운 이미지지만 춤 강하게 추는걸로 유명했는데 때마침 데뷔곡 컨셉이 승희랑 유진이한테도 찰떡이였죠. 데뷔하고 반응올락말락하는데 밀어주는건 다른멤. 그리고 마케팅으 얼마나 이상했으면 여름에 가을곡을 냅니까. 여름곡이 있어서 다행이지. 이미 회사 일 안한 전적이 많은데 새 그룹 론칭했으면 발전이라도 해야지... 그냥 본진 큐브에 있을 때 한 많이 맺혀서 그렇다고 생각하세요.. 본진한테 하던 짓들 똑같이 하고 있고..근데 애들뽑기는 더럽게 잘뽑아가지고 애들은 파야겠고 회사는 거지같고 큐브 내리사랑 10년차 한 많아요..^^
they were performing where are you now but fans preferred summer kiss so they switched promotions to summer kiss. its more awk choosing the wrong title track thn anything
메보 목소리가 약간 허스키하고 90년대 발라드 느낌이라 1,2번은 먼가 어색한 기분이였는데 3번부터는 노래랑 섞이기 시작함 그리고 리드보컬 새로 와서 전반적으로 음색이 맑아짐 그리고 권은비?은빈? 프듀로 화제 모으고 의상 개성적으로 예뻐지고 도깨비부터 확 랩이랑 느낌이 와서 걸크러시 느낌 제대로 개인적으로 가장 컨셉 조화 등등 최고는 미랑 이번 신곡
CLC is popular but still underrated and deserve to recognize more. They have underrated vocal, rapper, dancer and also visual. They are actually one of the best group of third generation :
reduce my longing with CLC. 😣😊 Cute🔛Baddass they always match anything 👍🏻 thank you for MBC 🙏🏻 your very good 👍🏻 By the way: my Bias SORN uwu 😚 we in the zone love you always CLC 😎
큡덕이었어서 데뷔 전 부터 응원하고 데뷔 때도 열심히 봣는데..오램만이네. 페페 노래 좋아했는데 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 더 잘됐으면 좋겠어서 찾아왓는데 우리 나중에 더 높은 곳에서 만나자! 비록 어떤 곳이든 항상 응원할거고 같이 올라갈거지맘!!! 우리 더 오래오래 보자 그리고 자주 보자 씨엘씨~~
Cheshire since Pepe here~! I'm so proud of CLC, they've come so far! The most versatile girl group, they are honestly such underrated Queens and I'm so happy for them that they've stopped being slept on now ❤
This it's great and everything, I'm really proud of how far the girls have come, but am I the only that fells kind of dizzy watching this? Like the camera work of the whole thing sucks.
maybe if cube promoted these talented queens better, they wouldnt be this underrated. im so mad at cube for wasting them. they dont even go to mainstream variety shows like weekly idol or idol room when they have a comeback. but they can send g-idle to america that fast (i have nothing against gidle and i also love them, im just mad at cube being unfair.) if we cheshires didnt vote our asses off when no came out, they still wouldnt have gotten their first win. cheshires promote clc better than cube. cube, for the love of god, please promote them in america because their concept sells better there.
I am introduced to G-idle first than CLC but my love is so big for these two groups however Cube is like playing favoritism and i don't like it all. It is just so unfair. Why disregard another group just to push another when you could do both. I just hope CLC would get what they really deserved. My heart aches for them as I really really want them to soar higher and be successful but I adore their hardwork and determination to go on despite many disappointments and failures.
Sorry but you are wrong, Cube does promote them, CLC has always participated in many shows if they are "underrated" it is the fault of Cheshires who don't buy albums and don't vote for them. Cube is not being unfair just CLC *really* need has to focus on Korea first before anything You should be doing something to help CLC instead of blaming the company and thanking Cube because if they were from another company they would have already disbanded because they don't sell much, they just sell 55,000+
hmm.. about them being on a variety shows, i think cube can't have controls when it comes to that. I mean, some shows do sends invitations to whoever they want to be as guest on their show.. so, i think cube can't do nothing about that. instead of blaming the compny or whatsoever, let's just save up all our energy for clc to get them to the top. A success of a group cannot depend on a company and the group alone. The fans should also take part on it (of course, im proud of how hardworking cheshires are in supporting clc). The company did their job to give clc a comeback, now it's cheshires' turn to give clc a great results. Dont expect cube to buy/download/stream the album for you because it's not their jobs anymore. i know there's still some aspects that cube should improve in promoting clc tho.. and pls let's stop comparing clc and idle. dont forget that idle also work hard for what they have achieves right now and it's not bcoz the company favored them more than clc. No. Let's not go into that kind of mindset. Let's be positive cheshires. The best feeling of success is when you see every scenery of your road to sucess 😊
clc하면 예뻐지게가 가장 먼저생각남. pepe 예뻐지게처럼 스윗하면서도 파워발랄한 느낌이 clc의 정체성같아보여요. 도깨비 블랙드레스 NO같은 쎈 컨셉이 기억으론 포미닛 쎈컨셉이랑 비슷하게 시작했던 것 같은데, 멤버구성이 귀염귀염한 멤이 절반정도 있다보니 쎈캐릭보단 예뻐지게 같은 곡이 잘 어울리는 것 같아요. 이미 시간이 지난 후에 말하는게 무슨 의미가 있냐 싶지만 그래도 다양한 모습들 보여주셔서 응원했습니다. 앞으로도 더 흥하셨으면 좋겠어요!
So sad Bop like HOBGOBLIN, BLACK DRESS and ME didn't get win. They only had 2WINs with "NO". Let's get them another win this comeback guys. DEVIL deserve win. Fighting.
개인적으로 데뷔곡도 좋았고... 좋은 노래 많고 멤버들 실력도 괜찮구 끼도 적당히 있는데 좀 반응이 온다싶으면 이어나가야할 때쯤 자꾸 툭툭 끊기는 것 같아서 아쉽... 그리고 데뷔전까지는 승희푸쉬해줄 거라 생각했는데 데뷔하고부터 승희를 너무 묻혀두고 활용못한 것도 아쉬웠음. 당시 데뷔조 연생 중 인지도도 나름 있고 소속사 그룹 팬들 지지도 가장 많이 받았던 멤버였으니...다들 의외란 반응이었는데- 메보라 실력도 있고 예쁘고 다 좋았는데 왜인지 아직도 의문..
Where are you? was the comeback title song but since Cheshires liked more Summer Kiss, they just promoted Eodiya like 1 week and promoted Summer Kiss for 2 weeks
Yeeun is such an underrated rapper. Good facial expressions too and doesn’t seem like she’s trying hard or doing too much. I honestly prefer her over soyeon
노래가 좋아도 무대가 뭔가 꽉찬 느낌이 안 드는 게 개인적으로는 잘 어울리는 스타일링이 너무 다른 멤버들이 있어서 그런 듯... 오승희랑 손은 쎈 컨셉에는 잘 어울리는데 발랄, 청순 이 쪽은 안 맞는 것 같고 최유진은 발랄, 청순 이 쪽이 너무 잘 어울리는데 쎈 컨셉은 너무 안 어울림... 나머지 멤버들은 두 컨셉 다 잘 소화하는데 초반부 무대 보면 오승희 손이 너무 안 어울리고 쎈 컨셉에서는 최유진이 안 어울려서 뭔가 몰입이 안 됨...