Clementi Sonata C Major (1): Herald of Virtuosity - Wim Winters Frenzel Pianoforte (1820)

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Finally! First 'official' RU-vid recording on our ca 1820 Frenzel Pianoforte. You know the tuning kept me busy for a while, and while it certainly is not perfect yet, it was about time to share this magnificent historical pianoforte with you!
And so the question came which composer would 'serve' for this opening recording. Hmm. Beethoven? Chopin even? Mozart? But then I took my old Breitkopf edition of Clementi sonatas and played the first one, the sonata in C Major, in this book indexed as opus 2 nr 1 (1784). I know there are other Clementi indexes but it isn't clear to me still should save some money to buy the new opera omnia but anyway, it''s an early sonata (1784) that was conceived in the period where Mozart and Clementi met. (I've made a video on their meeting way back in 2015) : • Mozart vs Clementi: T...
Second part of this sonata will follow next week, it's a beautiful rondo, greatly contrasting with this grand first movement.
If you'd like to compare this recording with the one I made on clavichord, here it is: • Muzio Clementi, Sonata...
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@EpreTroll 5 лет назад

Please upload more pieces on pianoforte. I love the sound of this instrument a lot

@robertm2000 5 лет назад

I remember reading, years ago, an art critic who said, "A work of art should imply the standards by which it is to be judged." And that is exactly what you have given us, Mr. Winters. This music, when played in the style you have refined, sounds superb! The clarity, articulation, and care with which you play - and the historical instruments! - make these works seem natural and effortless to listen to. Well done!

@SalseroAt 5 лет назад

Great music and great playing ! I underestimated Clementi in the past and got interested in him again because of your recordings. Many thanks for recording his music !

@untl01 5 лет назад

Nice to hear a full featured recording of your Viennese fortepiano for the first time!

@patrickl.2303 5 лет назад

I like that sound! You can definitely hear the remnants (if one could say in a figure of speech, "ghost") of the harpsichord sound through the sound of the pianoforte being the bridge to the modern piano. It makes me appreciate the pianoforte even more. Thank you Wim. :)

@terryadal731 5 лет назад

C'était vraiment extra, c'est une composition que je ne connaissais pas, j'ai pris un immense plaisir de la découvrir grâce à votre interprétation originale, et sublime . J'ai adoré . Un grand merci ,et vraiment un tres grand bravo . C était génial, je n'ai pas vu passer les 9 minutes Bravooooo

@robertchristiangomulyo 5 лет назад

Great! Thank you for your consistency in sharing your work with us. It's a great pleasure every time I watch your videos 🙏😊

@Clavichordist 5 лет назад

Yes! This gave me goose pimples! :D The piano sounds absolutely splendid. Beethoven will sound awesome on this instrument. I shared your video with Pat at the Frederick Collection. Maybe this will inspire her husband to restore their 1823 Frenzel.

@user-74652 5 лет назад

"Goose pimples"? Never heard them described like that before.

@stevenreed5786 5 лет назад

What a great sound. Shame they don't build them like that anym...er, I guess somebody does...

@ronkatz507 5 лет назад

Wow. What an instrument! Sounds lovely! I'll be more than happy to hear your performance of the rest of that piece.

@bruperina 5 лет назад

I’m so happy to hear. I was anxiously awaiting for this video. Congratulations.

@theskoomacat7849 5 лет назад

I adore the sound of this piano! You can really bring it out with your playing, thanks for the uploads, and happy new year!

@lemonemmi 5 лет назад

This was truly a magnificent welcoming fanfare for the Frenzel. What a wonderful sound it has.

@carlosnavarroeguiluz2276 5 лет назад

Woooooow sounds amazing! Congratulations Wim Beautifull as always but lovely to hear it on your new pianoforte! A new era on the channel is coming soon!

@carlosnavarroeguiluz2276 5 лет назад

Btw I wrote you on your page because I found new proofs for the double beat theory that I want to share with you. If you can give me an email to show you them, it would be nice... greetings from Mexico

@Rollinglenn 5 лет назад

What an amazing sound! Such a clear and powerful sound. Please keep these recordings coming, Wim & Anja. Fine job of capturing on video.

@CocTheElf 5 лет назад

Wim always sharing with us lesser known baroque and classical works played with the most authentic sound (pun totally intended).

@wojtas2524 5 лет назад

Clementi's sonatinas and sonatas are hardly lesser known.

@CocTheElf 5 лет назад

@@wojtas2524 This sonata in particular isn't.

@otilia1246 5 лет назад

A real pleasure to listen to this post. Thank you.

@L4AH4N1889 5 лет назад

Fantastic playing ! A thousand likes ! This is truly an authentic sound ! Thanks

@jonas91j 5 лет назад

Bravo 👏👏👏

@alexmantua 5 лет назад

What a nice instrument, thx for uploading.

@thomashughes4859 5 лет назад

Brilliant! Those repeated notes sound really good. Piano has great response. Thanks, Wim!!!

@lucjanocastro 2 года назад

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Fantastic! So brilliant and alive, Wim ! I love Clementi! His sonatas are so dificult...

@AuthenticSound 2 года назад

Thanks! Clementi is highly underrated today I believe

@RollaArtis 5 лет назад

A magnificent sound - more Clementi please!

@MrInterestingthings 4 года назад

A revelation to hear these. Ive yet to fibd Horowitz recording if many of these . You are wonderful at really showing and letting us know hiw these musics sounded on the instruments if the time. I feel differently about pianoforte now. Not a hurdy-gurdy sound but it lets us hear their world wuthout museum unctiiusness . Your liszt and Alkan has personality and is incredible!

@wapolo1974 5 лет назад

Wonderful stuff; looking forward to part two.

@randobravo4335 2 года назад

Way to take it to the next level maestro wim !

@Dryg_A 5 лет назад

Beautiful... one can hear how the wood of that pianoforte is enriching the whole picture, plus the sound of the strings is ,,raw" in some way, dont you guys think ? much different than modern pianos . It seems like this pianoforte (as a whole instrument) is ,,vibrating" a lot ! in an elegant way :) and that creats kind of historical uniqueness ! And ofcourse the sonata is a masterpiece.. Your playing technique on that pianoforte is really good, the proper interpretation is there, you absolutely know what you're doing, the trills you've mastered on the clavichord sound awesome as well, plus the right tempo, nice use of dynamics and we have the authentic sound right there ;) Great job ! How about some Mozart sonata on that pianoforte ? Would be nice to hear how it would sound on the historical instrument. Best Regards !

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

Thanks Piotr! Mozart will come :)

@johnerskine8367 5 лет назад

Terrific stuff - the piece, the piano, the performance! Thank you, as always.

@Piflaser 5 лет назад

The piano and the performance, yes! But the piece is more terrible than terrific as the whole Clementi.

@enzocypriani5055 5 лет назад

Amazing interpretation! And what a sound

@thomashughes4859 5 лет назад

WOW! What a compleatly tough comparison: Piano vs Clav ... MAN, I love BOTH!!! Great!

@tomatoso27 5 лет назад

Congrats!

@ahmad_hcomposer9276 5 лет назад

Sounds great!

@williammanico2359 4 года назад

It is rare to hear a forte piano in such good tune. So many of them sound out of tune, which turns off a lot of listeners. This one sounds great and with greater clarity then a modern piano. Bravo.

@antoniavignera2339 5 лет назад

Carattere squisitamente pianistico e strumentale, pure essendo una delle prime sonate di Clementi.Si ringrazia il maestro per l’esecuzione sia con il clavicordo ed il piano.

@Sandalettotedesconet 5 лет назад

Antonia Vignera ma che cazz😂

@Kam-xm6mm 3 года назад

Splendid

@adamgulley1399 5 лет назад

Those arpeggios sound so amazing on the piano forte, this is my favorite clementi sonata, is it challenging to learn?

@miguelmendizabalcontreras9771 2 года назад

Bravo.

@sirorlandodecorsica6210 5 лет назад

Wow Wim.

@yuhengwu6853 5 лет назад

Beste Wim, zou u de music sheet van deze sonata eens kunnen sharen? Ik vind het nergens... Ik zou deze sonata ook willen leren.

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

it is on imslp, you'll find the first print there!

@sambsialia 4 года назад

Dear sir, Would you care to offer some guidance on metronome speeds for Clementi Preludes and Exercises? My daughter is to learn them and I am wondering if some general standards for whole beat are available or should I try to halve my metronome’s markings? Does Chopin have markings perhaps for these? All the best.

@user-74652 5 лет назад

There definitely seem to be some instances where the bass strings vibrate against each other, creating an annoying buzzing sound. I have on a few occasions played on a more modern Steinway where that was the case as well. Does anyone know if this is something that is possible to fix?

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

it's not because the strings touch each other, it might have to to with the fagott-zugg, that starts to resonate with the vibrations of sound. I will take it off one day to see if it happens again.

@federico4639 5 лет назад

I sounds really beautiful, I think it's the ideal sound for classic and more or less early romantic piano music. By the way, what temperament are you using?

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

Thank you! I'm striving for an equel temperament but let the piano have its own thing (2 centuries of age have their rights :-)

@henrih3080 5 лет назад

The Challenge for 2019 is to bring the sound of this Piano in to the pop charts !

@MyGdoggy 5 лет назад

Niceeee, thumbs up from me!!!

@mariusvanhandel2876 5 лет назад

Ik had dezelfde reactie als Gerard van Reenen. Schitterend gespeeld, en eerste kwaliteit muziek. Maar de Frenzel is te zwaar en pianistisch voor de muziek.Op het klavichord (of een veel eerdere fortepiano) heeft de sonate naar mijn gevoel beter evenwicht.

@wally3086 4 года назад

Fantastic Interpretation! how much Hertz is a4?

@AuthenticSound 4 года назад

at this piano 436

@wally3086 4 года назад

thank you ! do you know about tuningforks hz frequencys of old masters?

@williammanico2359 4 года назад

Beautiful, you h ave inspired me to learn this piece and I love the clarity of the instrument. This tempo is a bit faster then you Moscheles version. I like this one better.

@sshawnuff 5 лет назад

What makes it so hard to get this piano in tune?

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

don't know how to explain, it seems a 'thing' of pianofortes, it need some time to settle in. Slowly we'll get there were I want to be!

@brendanward2991 5 лет назад

Robert brown did a great job. It sounds wonderful.

@fredhoupt4078 5 лет назад

BTW, that piano of yours doesn't look like 88 keys. Is it less than a full range of octaves?

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

no, it's 6 octaves!

@melliotbarrett 5 лет назад

Interesting to hear this period intsrument. I had a good friend many years back, Steve Buchanan, and he built a Stein piano, dressed up in Rococo style and gave concerts. I fell in love with that piano. I have to admit I find Clementi to sound much inferior to Mozart. How I would have loved to see that duel!

@robertklein8187 5 лет назад

Thanks Wim, Clementi is always a treat. Would be great to hear Op 50,3 on the Frenzel (hint, hint) :)

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

I've made a note Robert!

@gabrielfromyhr5694 5 лет назад

I can imagin this being used in Schubert trout quintet

@Wazoox 5 лет назад

The tuning isn't perfect, and there are some weird resonances in the bass... but great piece and great instrument!

@mcrettable 5 лет назад

I'm glad you chose Clementi, better than Mozart and as good as Haydn!!

@engelbertschoormans 5 лет назад

zeer apart, dat je de boventonen (m.n. octaaf) zeer goed hoort (bijv. 0:47)!

@lshin80 5 лет назад

Wim, I like the music, I love your dendition but... I totally dislike the tone of this Frenzel. :-/ I find it too skinny and shallow. The digital recording contributes to that for shure. I should listen to it in person to have a better perspective, but I hope the incoming Fritz will sound better!

@fredhoupt4078 5 лет назад

Not my favourite Clementi. Today I played my way through easy pieces by Stephen Heller. Try out Opus 45, book 1. Lovely short pieces that are like fanciful and melodic exercises. Highly recommend them to those who have played for a few years. Easy sight reading. Wim: you played well but this music doesn't do much for me. Ludwig hangs like a giant shadow over the music.

@Renshen1957 5 лет назад

I guess it's a matter of taste, Ludwig called Clementi "The Father of the Piano, " and was Beethoven's favorite composer for piano. In fact Beethoven wanted his nephew Karl to learn Clementi sonatas for his piano instruction. Beethoven was quoted as saying "They who thoroughly study Clementi, at the same time make themselves acquainted with Mozart and other composers; but the converse is not the fact". Schindler wrote, "Among all the masters who have written for pianoforte, Beethoven assigned to Clementi the very foremost rank. He considered his works excellent as studies for practice, for the formation of a pure taste, and as truly beautiful subjects for performance".

@danielschechter8130 5 лет назад

A piano? Seriously? There’s a gazillion piano performances all over RU-vid. I subscribed to hear you play baroque music on the clavichord. What’s the deal?

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

The deal is from Bach to Beethoven Daniel...!

@danielschechter8130 5 лет назад

@AuthenticSound Okay. I thought it was early music on the clavichord.

@AuthenticSound 5 лет назад

It's a new 'thing' the pianoforte, so I can understand your little confusion very well. And the clavichord will not dissapear, so no worry, as there are ca 170 clav recordings on the channel. Don't know if you've seen them all, might be a nice (or weird?) trip back in time ?

@padrepatta5535 5 лет назад

For me the clavichord version is far superior. Maybe I'm the only one but I don't like too much the sound of this piano.

@nigellong1460 5 лет назад

You are not a lone voice, I too felt the clavichord recording was better. The piano will take months to settle down and adjust to a different climate and tuning and it is probably unfair to be too harsh in judging it. We are also very familiar with Joris’ clavichord and this is so different it will be a bit of a shock to the system.

@padrepatta5535 5 лет назад

@@nigellong1460 Thank you for your reply.