Cleo (raven 26) refit 

well I have a classic Raven 26 that I can sell you! and excellent first boat and all the hard work has already been done!

@@dominictarrsailing Youre very kind, but, I think in my care we would both end up on the seabed at the bottom of the Forth 😂. I love watching your adventures (scary biscuits sometimes) from the safety of the house. Great stuff. Happy Hogmanay from Fife 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿 when it comes.

happy Hogmanay to you too!@@allanraymond1248

thanks!

wow thank you! it's a lot of effort to make videos and some times I wonder if it's worth it but your comment means it definitely is! there is certainly gonna be more proa stuff coming

what 30 footer are you thinking? occasionally I look at Aussie boats but the thing that appeals most is there seem to be some inexpensive old production multihulls such as seawind 24. Oh and folkboats, which I think they also made in australia but are very rare in NZ. I like small boats.

@@dominictarrsailing yeah I like small boats too. Anything under thirty foot is good for me. Keeps the costs down as well. I have a triton atm which are great boats. Great layouts as well. But happy to find a Pearson round the thirty foot range. My first boat was a 28ft wooden boat which I will never do again. Way to much upkeep for my liking. Think I will always stick with glass from here on in. Also like the idea of a ketch. Has a lovely romantic feel about them. Center cockpit would be nice as well. Still looking so not in a rush just yet but I am looking further afield say in Asia as they have some great boats there too for reasonable prices. I know a lot of people who get their gear from places like Vietnam now as they have great gear at reasonable prices. Anyway I am looking at something not to expensive initially & something I can work on. Got to learn welding but. That’s defo a great skill to have but my carpentry skills are average but passable. Will get better with time of course.

@@ERo1972 with epoxy passable is good enough! welding is definitely a empowering skill. I've done a few small things, passable I guess. just grind it and do it again until it's good enough! I know the h28 is sometimes ketch rigged but usually when it's a wooden one. I'd love a ketch also. Once I sailed a yawl and you could totally steer it just using the sails. sheet in jib to turn down, sheet in mizzen to turn up, then sheet in main for power. Could even tack without touching the tiller!

thanks no problem!

thanks! it looked like the forestay was pretty close to falling down. This boat did survive a cyclone on the mooring last summer, but not much steel left down there!

and hear my voice in the background :)

haha thanks!

yes haha, I slept on my other boat! gonna sell this one soon

P.S. Shower curtain is made of rip stop nylon.🤣🤣🤣

Thanks I have a friend who's a pro boat builder and he gives me off cuts of glass and peel ply, I don't think I paid for any of the glass in this video! (Thanks Mark!)

I use polythene sheet

Gold hole. It's in auckland under the bridge. Goog maps doesn't know about it you just have to got there and ask.

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Really pretty great boat. If it was shallow draft and could dry out I would probably still have it instead of switching to the catamaran. The raven 26 is a good size. not too big not too small. It has standing head room. You can quickly raise the sails, it tacks really easily, and it's even small enough that you can pump the tiller to turn it if you are caught in a lull. When I brought it I thought I was getting a proper grownup boat with a desiel inboard... but that broke down a week later. I did get it going again but I actually just got good at sailing it without engine. I lived on it for 6 years! starting around the hauraki gulf and slowly pushing the boundries further and further, and also making it more ready to take on the ocean. In 2020 I sailed it around the north island. (non-stop to wellington, then across strait and cruising in the sounds then back up to the far north. Enginefree but did need a sculling oar a couple of times in the sounds) sailing it to Chatham island was gonna be next, but then I found the wharram. I had had a trailer sailer before that. The raven was able to take on anything, but having shallow draft and being able to park at low tide really makes the least comfortable part of living on a boat much more comfortable. See also Anne Hill - she wrote a classic sailing book (voyaging on a small income) and also recently lived on a raven... then built a new boat that was basically the same but shallow draft. When I got the raven, it felt intimidatingly large after the trailer sailor but I got used to it. People think I'm a bit crazy for sailing engineless, or at least, that I must be a very good sailor, but of course I got that way by just doing it. Normally these will have a inboard diesel engine, originally 10hp, but some upgraded to 20hp. These are all old now, and do not sell for much. I paid 12,000 in 2015, with the mooring. Which would have been one year renting a room in Auckland at the time. I havn't seen one listed for that much recently! and rent has gotten much more expensive too! These are cheap but replacing the engine wouldn't raise the resale value by very much. You'd be loosing thousands. Pretty much all the now cheap production fiberglass boats where this era and will have the same problem. However they are still small enough that it would not be unreasonable to fit an outboard. I did put an outboard bracket on mine because I reluctantly admit that the market for an engineless boat is somewhat limited, although in the hauraki gulf there is usually wind and if you wait a week it will probably be blowing the other way! Gonna see how it goes with my electric outboard when I get back there! I brought this one because it had quite good sails that had clearly been replaced by one of the recent owners. I didn't know enough to identify a good engine though! It's a good size for extended cruising for two people that get along well (such as a couple). My one has a uncommon layout that has a double berth in the saloon as well as the V berth at the front. Also a fairly roomy quarter berth! I've done a few trips with friends (4 on board for a week, really how many you can fit in the dinghy is the limit!) and several longer than that as a couple and of course a lot of solo sailing.

@dominictarrsailing .... I seen one for $2500 ... but needs front fixed, rigging and sails ... is that ok ? What are you after for your Raven ? I am in Lyttelton, wanting to learn but no experience

@@roxyknight4909 fixing up a "really cheap" beat isn't actually really cheap, because you have to factor in all the other things you'll end up spending money on, and many of those will be surprises that you don't realize at the time. Really, that is something that requires fairly significant experience. If you are learning, and on a budget, I'd really recommend starting with a smaller boat that is ready to sail away. Then once you have the hang of actually sailing a boat, move up to repairing the larger boat as the next level of challenge. It's important to be challenged, but not to take on something that is too far beyond your capabilities and resources, that will just wreck you. There are plenty of people that, for example, try to build a large boat and never finish... or people that spend years in the boat yard and never seem to go sailing

nope, havn't gotten around to listing this one but it is for sale!