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📜 Cleopatra: A Drunken Bet - Cleopatra VII Philopator. One of the most famous women of all history with one of the most dramatic stories. We've all heard how she gained the affections of two of the most powerful men of Rome, and committed suicide through snake bite. And while that story is very dramatic, it doesn't really capture the full brilliance of Cleopatra. More than just a romantic figure, Cleopatra was cunning, charismatic, and ruthless. And to understand how she developed into such a fierce politician, we gotta talk about her family, the Ptolemys. Talk about a nest of vipers.
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@extrahistory
@extrahistory 3 года назад
A previous version of this episode contained a section that caused confusion about the historical material. In light of this, we have decided to re-upload an updated version with the section cut. We'll discuss the reasons for this decision in Lies, but we felt it was appropriate in this instance. Thank you for bringing it to our attention and we'll strive to do better in the future.
@oscar-rdz
@oscar-rdz 3 года назад
Hi ok
@seth5265
@seth5265 3 года назад
gobble me swallow me
@satanswife2546
@satanswife2546 3 года назад
Oh yeah I was wondering that
@abthedragon4921
@abthedragon4921 3 года назад
Oh, now I get it
@maeam
@maeam 3 года назад
Ohh I watched the first one too lmao
@Tyler-sy7jo
@Tyler-sy7jo 3 года назад
Poor Aspen. He's just excited for his role.
@silmarian
@silmarian 3 года назад
FREE ASPEN!
@DCdabest
@DCdabest 3 года назад
He needs to learn his stage cues though
@jeffgalus8454
@jeffgalus8454 3 года назад
Aspen got KO for his troubles
@ryanjapan3113
@ryanjapan3113 3 года назад
Nouran Ahmed Im number 250.
@jamesmccabe5569
@jamesmccabe5569 3 года назад
Execute order 66bc
@rq2012
@rq2012 3 года назад
4:43. Missed opportunity. Shoulda named the book “Mummies for dummies”
@mattmarino4033
@mattmarino4033 3 года назад
R Q my god your right
@a.h.tvideomapping4293
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 года назад
I thought the book below that was “Cato Eyes” as in Cato the Elder or Younger. Not sure why that would relate to Egypt
@StrangeTerror
@StrangeTerror 3 года назад
Very good call sir.
@queenkaterose
@queenkaterose 3 года назад
XD
@anairconditionermother7537
@anairconditionermother7537 3 года назад
This is too good lol
@Xiuhcoatl_
@Xiuhcoatl_ 3 года назад
"Cleopatra dunked on them all" Imperator Caesar Divi Filius Augustus After Dunking so hard on Cleopatra she literally killed herself: Am I a joke to you?
@manticore2804
@manticore2804 3 года назад
He dunked on her with an army. She dunked on him with out
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 года назад
@@manticore2804 I feel like a army is far better than not having one
@sweatygarbage6969
@sweatygarbage6969 2 года назад
I would much rather be dunked on by someone without an army than someone with an army
@CollinMcLean
@CollinMcLean 2 года назад
Cleopatra VII of the ptolemaic dynasty who dunked on Octavius by killing herself so she couldn't be displayed as a victory trophy by him:Yes you very much are
@cokelover-nb1qz
@cokelover-nb1qz 2 года назад
@@CollinMcLean I mean getting absolutely destroyed in a war and then not getting paraded doesn't sound like a win to me.
@freakymoejoe2
@freakymoejoe2 3 года назад
Despite your emphasis on the Ptolomies willingness to absorb egyptian culture, I think it's important to note that in the 100+ years they ruled egypt, Cleopatra was the first ptolomy to actually bother learning egyptian
@Jcartist_10
@Jcartist_10 10 месяцев назад
Actually they all somewhat learned Egyptian. Cleopatra was the only one to learn it fluently.
@Mereel401
@Mereel401 3 года назад
Alexander "died without an heir" should really be 'without an viable adult heir' sinve both his half brother Phillip III and his infant son Alexander IV did exist. Albeit that Phillip suffered some sort of cognitive problems since birth and Alexander was born after his father's death. I mean he even almost became King before Cassander had him poisoned.
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 3 года назад
Mereel401 Extra History *really* needs to do a proper series on Alexander the Great (and maybe a separate one on the aftermath of his death) - his story is full of interesting stuff and it had such a huge impact on a big chuck of both West and East.
@Ake-TL
@Ake-TL 3 года назад
Zveebo yeah, diadochi war can get pretty confusing
@hertzyscowicz7066
@hertzyscowicz7066 3 года назад
Fun fact: Plutarch actually described Cleopatra as rather plain looking, but with a great deal of charm. The idea of her being a famous beauty was either to flatter Caesar for his latest catch and/or to make Mark Anthony look like a guy befuddled by a pretty face.
@murder7415
@murder7415 3 года назад
History is just game of thrones but free.
@vogonp4287
@vogonp4287 3 года назад
And we are a part of it.
@johnrockwell5834
@johnrockwell5834 3 года назад
Game of Throne takes inspiration from History.
@FeyTheBin
@FeyTheBin 3 года назад
It's like saying WWII is free-to-play COD.
@hang_kentang6709
@hang_kentang6709 3 года назад
@@FeyTheBin a COD experience to die for. literally sometimes.
@bificommander
@bificommander 3 года назад
And like GoT, the most recent season is poorly written. I mean, cmon, the writers Cleary didn't give a crap about logic and believability anymore, they only cared about making who ended up on the White Throne a surprise twist.
@declanellery8500
@declanellery8500 3 года назад
Totally up for Cleopatra story, she did so much, and is known for only a few of her achievements. Little iffy on the statement that she one upped Octavian, he was the eventual winner of the Roman civil wars that she was involved in after all.
@lukedufaur5368
@lukedufaur5368 3 года назад
Yeah Cleopatra definitely backed the wrong horse on that one.
@thirteen3
@thirteen3 3 года назад
Well, she denied Octavian the chance to have her killed at the end of his triumph. like what happened with Vercingetorix.
@TheBrickMasterB
@TheBrickMasterB 3 года назад
@@thirteen3 The Gauls just couldn't get a break after Carthage died.
@declanellery8500
@declanellery8500 3 года назад
@@thirteen3 yes, after he'd beaten her and Mark Antony. That was more like a final middle finger before defeat than one upping someone
@Doublemonk0506
@Doublemonk0506 3 года назад
I mean who do people regonize, Cleopatra or Octavian
@belzibubtom9546
@belzibubtom9546 3 года назад
I like to think Octavian, just as he was about to turn Egypt into his personal property, had a laugh at the idea that someone two thousand years later would describe such a thing as cleopatra dunking on him.
@void_wyrm
@void_wyrm 3 года назад
I guess she gave him a small middle finger by killing herself and not being a part of his Triumph, and avoided humiliation? But what is that compared to all of Mare Nostrum? What is that compared to the Jewel that is Egypt? What is that to an Emperor of all Rome?
@Mitaka.Kotsuka
@Mitaka.Kotsuka 3 года назад
I will love the ending of this.... Ave Octavian
@peterongan9655
@peterongan9655 3 года назад
A V E * A V G V S T V S
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055
@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 3 года назад
Yeah that ones weird, Octavian beat Cleopatra, and from what I know she never dunked on Julius Caesar. Or Antony
@couchpotatoe91
@couchpotatoe91 3 года назад
@@twoscarabsintheswarm9055 I agree. I lean towards the left, but I hate how extracredits seems to more and more shape history to their convenience to seem "woke", in this case by selling the story of the flawless, perfect ruler that Cleopatra (despite her genius) certainly wasn't.
@abcdef27669
@abcdef27669 3 года назад
Please, Make the Viper a recurrent character. Zoey needs another animal friend.
@diarradunlap9337
@diarradunlap9337 3 года назад
Yes! "Aspen" show show up every time they call a person a viper.
@TheBrickMasterB
@TheBrickMasterB 3 года назад
They had a dog made of water show up during the Majapahit series to chase Zoey about.
@mattmarino4033
@mattmarino4033 3 года назад
abcdef27669 it’s gonna be the snake that bites cleopatra at her death
@diarradunlap9337
@diarradunlap9337 3 года назад
Yes, I figured that out already. However, I would like to see "Aspen" as a recurring character. :)
@vaughnjohnson8767
@vaughnjohnson8767 3 года назад
Yes. We need more!
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 года назад
If anyone wants a somewhat longer telling of just how messed up the Ptolemies were, Blue on Overly Sarcastic Productions has a hysterical video where he basically loses his shit trying to describe their family tree, and how it came to be so... intertwined.
@F22onblockland
@F22onblockland 3 года назад
When your family tree becomes a family circle
@jasonblalock4429
@jasonblalock4429 3 года назад
@@F22onblockland Yep. Cleopatra is probably one of the only major figures in history to win the incest lottery. She somehow got all of her family's good traits, and none of the bad ones.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 3 года назад
@@jasonblalock4429 wasn't one of her grandmas a Seleucid?
@kellysunserenity4068
@kellysunserenity4068 7 месяцев назад
Ah yes, it's on their channel's Podcast playlist. I love it And I think he has a classmate of his also in on the talk. It's hilarious and informative.
@thesittingacheroraptor7565
@thesittingacheroraptor7565 3 года назад
3:08 why is the horse having a midlife crisis
@peroz1000
@peroz1000 3 года назад
If that's Bucephalus (Alexander's favorite horse) , he actually died of exhaustion. Maybe that's got something to do with it.
@kevinnorwood8782
@kevinnorwood8782 3 года назад
@@peroz1000 Wait. He died of EXHAUSTION? I thought Bucephalus was KILLED during the Battle Of Hydaspes River?
@peroz1000
@peroz1000 3 года назад
@@kevinnorwood8782 Some sources say that. Others blame old age and/or exhaustion. www.wikiwand.com/en/Bucephalus
@kokuinomusume
@kokuinomusume 3 года назад
Why does it have its eyes in front of its face, really
@comandante_dd210
@comandante_dd210 3 года назад
It's an ancestor of Bojack Horseman
@AdhvaithThurvas
@AdhvaithThurvas 3 года назад
So the Ptolemies were a family that partook in incest and murdered each other a lot? I'll just put this here: Crusader Kings 3
@draco84oz
@draco84oz 3 года назад
Unfortunately, you'll have to wait for DLC or Mods to do a 50BC start
@Barneyfromhalflife1
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 года назад
@@draco84oz *bruh.*
@Azaghal1988
@Azaghal1988 3 года назад
@@draco84oz there's already one for the bronze-age but nothing for the roman times unfortunately
@GaldirEonai
@GaldirEonai 3 года назад
You can pretty easily build that with the faith system. Divine Marriage and kinslaying always legal, fun times :D.
@Sorcerers_Apprentice
@Sorcerers_Apprentice 3 года назад
They must have cheated on and cuckolded each other a lot too, how else would they managed to survive so many generations of parent-child and full-sibling incest?
@bladestorm337
@bladestorm337 3 года назад
"She got a pretty nose" -Panoramix
@Blandina11
@Blandina11 3 года назад
👍🤣
@barbaragagner7053
@barbaragagner7053 3 года назад
Well, now the English version of 'Arsenic Cake' is stuck in my head.
@Blandina11
@Blandina11 3 года назад
@@barbaragagner7053 "Le Gâteau à l'arsenic" yeah, that was awesome 👍😊
@rrtkddigimon0
@rrtkddigimon0 3 года назад
Ah, I see you too are a man of culture...
@reyonXIII
@reyonXIII 3 года назад
Be honest. You'd also cut the cake into "3 slices" like that too, huh?
@Arutima
@Arutima 3 года назад
Octavian dunked so hard on her that he took Egypt as his own Imperial Domain, making him the richest man in history.
@alienworm1999
@alienworm1999 3 года назад
"How about we start with a drunken wager" I feel a strange disturbance in the viewership, as if a million DnD players all groaned at once and were suddenly silent
@raymondveritas5255
@raymondveritas5255 3 года назад
I like how passionate Extra Credits is with reposting content after at first posting it and realising it was wrong after a few hours. Even if it is the middle of the night or day
@giorgikvernadze3766
@giorgikvernadze3766 3 года назад
I fail to see how she dunked on octavian.
@darkseidshrike6165
@darkseidshrike6165 3 года назад
Laughs in Latin
@cseijifja
@cseijifja 3 года назад
she's a powerfull woman you see! , she must dunk on mighty western men so we apreciate her! . Jjesus, they aint triying to hide the wokeness.
@tellulapopo9078
@tellulapopo9078 3 года назад
Stares
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 3 года назад
Wokeness. That’s how.
@TheKersey475
@TheKersey475 3 года назад
It's less of Cleopatra "Dunking" on Octavian and more of Cleopatra managing to make one last throw just as the clock ran out and scoring the basket... Even though Octavian was already far ahead in points anyway.
@The_13th_Hussar
@The_13th_Hussar 3 года назад
For those wondering 5:34, originally they accused the Ptolemaic dynasty of "cultural appropriation".
@Imperiused
@Imperiused 3 года назад
Oh, yeah I thought that statement was rather flippant. Its much more a case of cultural capture (or whatever you want to call it), where foreign rulers adopt the local traditions.
@anamarvelo
@anamarvelo 3 года назад
I thought that was just a joke. anyone with a brain, could tell that, chaing your culture, to match the place you now live, is assmilation
@Rikmach
@Rikmach 3 года назад
@@anamarvelo That's the problem- if you tell a joke that's not really funny, people think you're serious and get confused.
@void_wyrm
@void_wyrm 3 года назад
@@Rikmach But the thing is, it certainly wasn't a joke, the stereotypical Egyptian dance thing sure, but i'm sure that the statement wasn't. And if it was, that was a rather stupid and weird joke to place in there
@89Dienekes
@89Dienekes 3 года назад
@@Imperiused It's also a bit overstated because they really didn't. The whole "Cleopatra was the first to learn to speak Egyptian" should have tipped everyone off on that. The Macedonians had a largely Greek styled court with Greek speaking advisors with Greek fashions. That then dressed up in Egyptian garb and performed the Egyptian religious ceremonies when it became appropriate for them to do so.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 3 года назад
The Pearl cocktail was the edible gold of their time.
@stonemorris5356
@stonemorris5356 3 года назад
5:30 The first video said something about “a tradition of westerners partaking in cultural appropriation” at this part but it’s gone now.
@ivydivine8722
@ivydivine8722 3 года назад
yup they edited it out
@LegoCookieDoggie
@LegoCookieDoggie 3 года назад
come on that line was mood though
@ArmandoMPR
@ArmandoMPR 3 года назад
Bullying works, kids. Never forget this 😂
@Rikmach
@Rikmach 3 года назад
@@ArmandoMPR Well, less bullying and more pointing out that using modern terminology in an inappropriate historical context is misleading, but view it however you like.
@ShinigamiInuyasha777
@ShinigamiInuyasha777 3 года назад
Well, Egypt influence the greeks and macedonians more than the other way around....
@soham6649
@soham6649 3 года назад
They doing my boy Aspen wrong by sidelining him. #sneks
@abthedragon4921
@abthedragon4921 3 года назад
Still surprised they didn't make a "heck" joke.
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey
@PrototypeSpaceMonkey 3 года назад
@Aidan Hoffman And a beach ball when things get REALLY dark.
@ianmoone2488
@ianmoone2488 3 года назад
Lol I just finished watching the earlier version.
@a.h.tvideomapping4293
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 года назад
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@stelrax6519
@stelrax6519 3 года назад
Me too
@SlyBluepaw
@SlyBluepaw 3 года назад
@ALSO-RAN ! That's good... as I said in my comment before it was removed for the re-upload: "I don't know about 'appropriation' as he wasn't taking it away from them as that what the word means (or should mean...), but more trying too hard to fit in a place he doesn't really belong with for power." I'm glad they took that out as it makes more sense now.
@Barneyfromhalflife1
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 года назад
@@stelrax6519 cant ur three hours late
@Barneyfromhalflife1
@Barneyfromhalflife1 3 года назад
Lol
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 года назад
>"Cleopatra dunked on Caesar, Antony and Octavian" > *I wonder which of those four was the last to rule Egypt*
@RetrousseRaptor
@RetrousseRaptor 3 года назад
Really arguing she outwitted Augustus? The writers know how her life and kingdom ended right?
@NoBody-lj5xh
@NoBody-lj5xh 3 года назад
She outwitted him one time, they never said she was so much smarter than him or anything.
@NoBody-lj5xh
@NoBody-lj5xh 3 года назад
@@Jim58223 Jesus fuck, all they did was say she tricked the man one time, fuck off.
@101Mant
@101Mant 3 года назад
@@Jim58223 where as you don't sound biased at all.
@Flyingclam
@Flyingclam 3 года назад
Glad yall fix your mistake of nonsensically accusing the ptolemy of cultural appropriation
@jeremy1860
@jeremy1860 3 года назад
A remarkable a woman as Cleopatra was, I'm always upset whenever I think about her legacy. She was undoubtedly one of the most brilliant people of her era, yet when people hear her name today they'll likely only consider her a side-character in the stories of Romans like Julius or Mark. She deserved more appreciation than that 😟
@nuralibolataev4474
@nuralibolataev4474 3 года назад
I liked the video but personally, I wouldn't say that she "dunked" on Ceasar because from my understanding they "dunked" together. Antony however, she definitely dunked on by making him one of history's greatest simps. But Agustus defiantly dunked on her by you know wining the war killing her children and officially conquering her home, but she did go out like a boss.
@admiralyi8673
@admiralyi8673 2 года назад
Well Agustus didn’t kill all her children just Ceasarion, her twins Cleopatra VIII Selene and Alexander Helios were kept alive and lived as his neice and nephew. Though at some point Alexander fell off the face of the earth because not much is known about him past his and his sister’s adoption.
@bkjeong4302
@bkjeong4302 10 месяцев назад
Cleopatra actually brokered a deal with Octavian to have her children spared: he did kill Caesarion for obvious reasons but he kept his end of the deal with her other children.
@EnoshII
@EnoshII 3 года назад
imagine thinking Cleopatra "dunked" on Augustus
@gloriahawkins895
@gloriahawkins895 3 года назад
So they removed the cultural appropriation part. Good riddance.
@bluecup1129
@bluecup1129 3 года назад
Extra History: “how do we start this series and episode?” Me: “ *THE SNAKES BIRTH* “
@justanormalguy6302
@justanormalguy6302 3 года назад
It’s like starting the story of the assassination of Julius Caesar with the birth of the smith who made Brutus’s dagger
@sammysocks6801
@sammysocks6801 3 года назад
That would have been a great start
@kakahass8845
@kakahass8845 3 года назад
Hey i saw this on the original version.
@j.chiari4222
@j.chiari4222 3 года назад
Cleo didn't dunk on Octavian. He was too Skoda-ish for her expensive taste
@disputedname
@disputedname 3 года назад
Octavian dunked on Cleopatra so hard she committed suicide
@charlesramirez587
@charlesramirez587 3 года назад
yeah I wonder why they said she dunked on him he outright destroyed her entire plot to rule the empire.
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 3 года назад
@@charlesramirez587 wokeness
@sirrhynus4280
@sirrhynus4280 3 года назад
Damn, even though she's dead for over 2000 years, she still managed to steal my heart and countless others hearts.
@Talbaz
@Talbaz 3 года назад
Didn't Alexander have a son and heir, but he was basically igroned.
@Blandina11
@Blandina11 3 года назад
A very quick search says: "…Alexander's posthumous son by Roxana, Alexander IV, as kings, sharing out the satrapies among themselves, after much bargaining. The empire could hardly survive Alexander's death as a unit. Both kings were murdered, Arrhidaeus in 317 and Alexander in 310/309."
@Coramelimane
@Coramelimane 2 года назад
Cleopatra was greek by blood, in fact she was so fair skinned she could pass as an actual greek citizen.
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527 2 года назад
There’s a really good video by Lady of the Library that discusses Cleopatra’s family lineage and how, while mostly being Greek, there are a few notable gaps and uncertain parentages where it’s possible that non greek blood could slip in.
@Szydencer
@Szydencer 2 года назад
Your naming the snake "Aspen" got me slithering on the floor laughing.
@paigehall4084
@paigehall4084 Год назад
Way better than the new documentary ❤🤣
@NanoElite666
@NanoElite666 3 года назад
Heh, "vanilla homicide."
@artman7780
@artman7780 3 года назад
6:28 They murdered poor mattresses. That’s totally unacceptable! 😱😡😭
@Etom.
@Etom. Год назад
If being forced to kill yourself and having your family legacy turned into the personal property of the Roman Emperor than by all means Cleopatra dunked on Octavian.
@epl5097
@epl5097 3 года назад
Even though I really enjoyed the episode I thought that some times it confused which facts applied to general history of Ptolemaic Egypt with those only relevant to the years that Cleopatra was alive. For instance it mentions that Ptolemaic Egypt was not famous for its military might, which is true during the years before Cleopatra's birth, but is inaccurate for most of the existence of the Ptolemaic dynasty. Ptolemaic Egypt between 323-198 BCE processed one of the most powerful militaries in the ancient world. While Rome was fighting Carthage during the Punic Wars, Egypt was fighting an even larger conflict, the Syrian Wars, against its great rival the Seleucid Empire. It was only after the great Seleucid victory at the Battle of Panium, during the Fifth Syrian War, that Ptolemaic military power completely collapsed (with only brief military revivals after this date). It is still a great episode but it just needed a bit more care to clearly define when it is talking about general Ptolemaic history and when its discussing Cleopatra's story. As a side note can I just mention how sad it is that the Syrian Wars, one of the largest and most heart breaking conflicts in the ancient world, is largely completely forgotten.
@Luthies
@Luthies 3 года назад
Cleopatra dunked on Octavian? Did someone timetravel to change history while I wasn't looking?
@vanessathomas7437
@vanessathomas7437 3 года назад
The Asp was NOT happy! Love a sense of humor inserted in a story...
@patartheconsumerofpizzarol806
That moment when the EH team makes a better documentary about Cleopatra than Netflixs.
@LangThoughts
@LangThoughts 3 года назад
Sweet Home Ptolemaic Egypt, where the skies are so blue......
@deirdregibbons5609
@deirdregibbons5609 3 года назад
What a great start to a new history series! Ali's artwork and puns are great, as usual. The character of Aspen (and his name) is a clever addition. Things I really liked: the hieroglyphics with people and critters in the Extra History drawing style (especially the hieroglyphics that show Matthew, Zoey, Ali and her child) the book titles, "Matricide," Aspen's cameos, Game of Egyptian thrones and Zoey in a cute pharonic head dress. Also like how you portrayed Cleopatra - it seems like you based her look on the images of her from coins from the period. I look forward to the next segment.
@nikolozgilles
@nikolozgilles 3 года назад
for those who are curious the cut happens at the part around 5:30, something about cultural appropriation
@Kurtizss
@Kurtizss 3 года назад
Cleo: *is birthed at 69* Everyknownbody: *Inhales* Nice
@justanormalguy6302
@justanormalguy6302 3 года назад
Nice
@TannerRawlings
@TannerRawlings 3 года назад
Nice
@COCO-tm3gp
@COCO-tm3gp 3 года назад
Nice
@lurkingPabs
@lurkingPabs 3 года назад
Nice
@Another_Caesar
@Another_Caesar 3 года назад
Nice
@napoleoniv2646
@napoleoniv2646 3 года назад
Cleopatra probably had skin as light as the romans and definitely had skin as light as the Greeks because she’s Greek.
@ericschwartz1669
@ericschwartz1669 3 года назад
Exactly! Pre-Ottoman Empire Greek
@napoleoniv2646
@napoleoniv2646 3 года назад
Eric Schwartz yes the people in the Mediterranean were lighter skinned before the Arab and Turkish conquest.
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901
@jayasuryangoral-maanyan3901 3 года назад
cmon man, she had one very distant (possibly fair skinned) persian ancestor!
@SimonBuchanNz
@SimonBuchanNz 3 года назад
She must have tanned a lot.
@napoleoniv2646
@napoleoniv2646 3 года назад
@@SimonBuchanNz considering she was royalty imagine she avoided as much as possible.
@MrTilldaddy
@MrTilldaddy 3 года назад
Looks like they took out the "Cultural Appropriation" comment. Good move Extra History!
@Zveebo
@Zveebo 3 года назад
ALSO-RAN ! Yeah, the way the Ptolomies took on a fair bit of the trappings of Egypt was hardly unique in the ancient world (or even in Egypt itself). The comment didn’t make much sense.
@asgrahim9164
@asgrahim9164 3 года назад
Yeah it seemed kind of silly how they alluded to the Vikings being good for assimilating into the local fellow white Slavic culture, but that the Greeks were nasty and bad cultural appropriators for trying to assimilate into a non-white culture.
@ericschwartz1669
@ericschwartz1669 3 года назад
She.... doesn’t *look* pre-Ottoman Greek
@ShunLovesTenTen
@ShunLovesTenTen Год назад
Cleopatra: Time for a game of disappearing Ptolemies.
@evershumor1302
@evershumor1302 3 года назад
This is a very specific, optimistic view of the ptolemy's.
@lunerishauntingbeowulf
@lunerishauntingbeowulf 3 года назад
1) Can we get the Aspen as a reoccurring character? Ashton the Aspen maybe? 2) I’ve been waiting for the Cleopatra episode for years! She’s the reason I got into history. I learned about her and got obsessed with ancient Egypt in kindergarten. Because of that I’m now twenty one years old and learn about history for fun XD
@vanessawestbrook9846
@vanessawestbrook9846 3 года назад
The mystery of Ahmed ziad turk continues
@lacanm1554
@lacanm1554 3 года назад
100% an oil prince from the middle east
@cometmoon4485
@cometmoon4485 3 года назад
@@lacanm1554 His surname is literally "Turk". = "from the middle east" ...wut?
@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_
@FakeAssHandsomeMcGee_ 3 года назад
@@cometmoon4485 Aren't there Turkmen in the Middle East? The Turkish army invaded Syria to assist Turkmen ethnic groups in fighting Assad.
@nicorozner7417
@nicorozner7417 3 года назад
"Mummification for dummies" "Cat Eyes" "So You're a God Now" The 3 basics of ruling Egypt.
@user-cd4bx6uq1y
@user-cd4bx6uq1y 8 месяцев назад
This channel truly has a series on everything. I'm expecting this once again to turn my understanding on it's head, though autocorrect said underwear
@carlosalbertofernandezvele7574
@carlosalbertofernandezvele7574 3 года назад
7:42 I didn't knew Cleopatra could speak Quechua :')
@wolffpup245
@wolffpup245 3 года назад
I might be high right now. Buuuuut hear me out. Imagine a D&D party with Cleopatra, Julie D'Aubigny, Ibn Battuta, and Walpole. The sheer chaos can only be imagined.
@Dr.Giangy
@Dr.Giangy 3 года назад
That's the most beautiful idea for a DnD party I've ever heard
@peytonreed937
@peytonreed937 3 года назад
Don’t forget bismark
@joshcain1032
@joshcain1032 3 года назад
Ibn Battuta would be complaining under his breath about how the orcs in the dungeon aren't comforming to Islamic hygeine laws, D'Aubigny would likely get carried away and challenge someone to an actual duel, whilst Cleopatra would be busy plotting to usurp the DM, unaware that Walpole has been pulling everyone's strings from the very beginning.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 3 года назад
Fate Grand Order currently has a re-run of a Halloween event where Cleo teams up with Liz Bathory, Wu Zetian (only Chinese woman ruler) and Amazoness com CEO (Penthesilea, not Bezos) who delivers items to NEET princess Japanese yokai spirit in Csejte Pyramid Himeji Castle. There's also a bunch of robot Elizabeths. With rocket arms. And a biker. Your party also can be a thing.)))
@oldgringo2001
@oldgringo2001 3 года назад
3:35 When Alexander died in 323 BCE he DID have a surviving son, born of Queen Roxana two months after Alexander died. This son "reigned" as Alexander IV of Macedon until 309 BCE when, as the regency under Cassander was about to end, came down with a sudden and mysterious case of death along with his maybe half-brother Heracles. Maybe this will be expanded on in the "Lies" segment of this series if there is one.
@pedacitodemadre
@pedacitodemadre 3 года назад
When I read Cleopatra's biography I was so surprised! Thank you for this series.
@pyrrhusofepirus8491
@pyrrhusofepirus8491 3 года назад
I hope you do something on the Wars Of The Diadochi, between the successor states of the Macedonian Empire, with the top players being the Ptolemies, the Antigonid Dynasty in Macedonia and the Seleucids, born of Seleucus the Victor ruling over quite a large chunk of Alexander’s old empire. It’s such an underrepresented and epic point in history, filled with intrigue and battles between some of the greatest generals of the age. Also it’s strange that you say she dunked on Octavian, when Octavian was the one that defeated her and Antony, and didn’t fall for her seduction like Caesar and Marky Mark did, and was gonna bring her back to Rome to show her off as a trophy being executing her. Safe to say Cleopatra backed the wrong horse, geez Octavian was quite the ruthless young man. Infact I don’t think she ever dunked on Julius, Julius just loved her, not for her looks (Caesar had sex with any women that made eye contact with him), but for the fact she was just really interesting to talk to.
@firstofthefallen6034
@firstofthefallen6034 3 года назад
When it comes to getting dunked on by Cleopatra, don't lump Octavian along with Caesar and Antony. But if running away from the Battle of Actium, losing her army and navy and eventually her kingdom, having to commit suicide to escape being taken prisoner and having one child murdered while three others paraded in a triumph in golden chains is considered being dunked on, then sure, Cleopatra dunked on Octavian.
@njord3582
@njord3582 3 года назад
Danger Noodles
@mrscechy8625
@mrscechy8625 Год назад
"She dunked on Octavian" Who won at Actium again? And what happened after that particular battle?
@xstrawarot
@xstrawarot 3 года назад
Spoiler: Octavian dunked so hard on her she killed herself
@josemiguelfernandez8103
@josemiguelfernandez8103 3 года назад
Lol so true
@alexstamp5482
@alexstamp5482 3 года назад
Cleopatra: *attempts to seduce Octavian like Caesar and Mark Antony* Octavian: Virginity is cool. Remain pure 😎
@a.h.tvideomapping4293
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 года назад
*Actium Noises intensifies*
@bogdan3386
@bogdan3386 3 года назад
I mean I find more amazing a kid who managed to outsmart the entire know world while also fighting against his poor health, that also had an amazing talent to pick the right men for a job and who didn't screwed up Caesar's legacy
@a.h.tvideomapping4293
@a.h.tvideomapping4293 3 года назад
Bogdan Ionuț Agrippa deserves half of the credit for Actium just like Labienus in Gaul
@knightshade1297
@knightshade1297 3 года назад
5:34 if you were wondering
@tomihodet354
@tomihodet354 3 года назад
They cut the "cultural aprotiation" bit?
@theapostatejack8648
@theapostatejack8648 3 года назад
@@tomihodet354 yep
@Stephenkingstan1
@Stephenkingstan1 7 дней назад
This series is so so good! And accurate! I even learned some new stuff about her! Thanks so much for actually putting time into this unlike msa!
@jacob8565
@jacob8565 3 года назад
If its the advisers killing royalty surely that's regicide
@dorkfish1275
@dorkfish1275 3 года назад
Nice to see that you wisened up. Still love the snake though.
@shaider1982
@shaider1982 3 года назад
I watched the video on Kings and Generals on the fighting over Alexander's corpse. Sound like an Age of Empire ii "get the relic (which is what the corpse is )" mission.
@darkithnamgedrf9495
@darkithnamgedrf9495 3 года назад
5:21 is where I think they cut out the part about the Ptolemys being the first cultural appropriates if people are wondering.
@BearOldcastle
@BearOldcastle 3 года назад
Yes that what I recall.
@Boltizar49
@Boltizar49 3 года назад
“She was a Ptolemy through and through.” Gross.
@nepdep1945
@nepdep1945 3 года назад
Cleopatra, being born in 69BC: It's like, I was born for this.
@user-kz6in8qk2h
@user-kz6in8qk2h 13 дней назад
“Enjoy life together… The height of their revels…” 6:49 pm.
@aname6794
@aname6794 3 года назад
Aaah I was waiting for this for so long!
@MusicGamesEverything
@MusicGamesEverything 3 года назад
Cleopatra is so famous that people don't even call her Cleoparra VII, just Cleopatra.
@adhamgoo175
@adhamgoo175 3 года назад
I loved this video! I wish there was a series about the aztecs or the conquest of Alexander the great!
@mortified776
@mortified776 3 года назад
The cobra's name Aspen obviously refers to the archiac name for them: 'asp', but I find it funny because aspen fibre is what a lot of reptile hobbyists use as bedding in enclosures.
@Myoldusernamewasgood
@Myoldusernamewasgood 3 года назад
Thank You Patrons. Great work carry on.
@marsh2537
@marsh2537 3 года назад
Very funny to depict a Greek girl significantly darker skinned than an Italian man
@uria3679
@uria3679 3 года назад
Why is this story better than Game of Thrones?
@AnimeAngel88
@AnimeAngel88 3 года назад
Because history is always more fascinating
@wimalliu389
@wimalliu389 3 года назад
GoT would have been more fascinating if it were real, but alas.
@6lack5ushi
@6lack5ushi 3 года назад
Oh man!!!!! Im so ready for this
@khadirahassan7634
@khadirahassan7634 3 года назад
Cleopatra was the total Badass
@ernestjones8618
@ernestjones8618 3 года назад
Good video guys!
@leonidasmartinelli4227
@leonidasmartinelli4227 3 года назад
So, since Cleopatra’s Macedonian family tree looks like a ladder how does Ptolemy look Greek but Cleopatra is presented here as looking Egyptian?
@user-eh1tv9pj2d
@user-eh1tv9pj2d 3 года назад
If you are talking about skin, it is probably because of tan.
@shawnheatherly
@shawnheatherly 3 года назад
Interesting enough to be worth a second watch.
@kokuinomusume
@kokuinomusume 3 года назад
I really appreciate the multiple appearances of the senet gaming board.
@NAYRUthunder99
@NAYRUthunder99 3 года назад
"I am the Senet"
@connorgolden4
@connorgolden4 3 года назад
Cleopatra most certainly did not dunk on Augustus. She may have killed herself on her own terms but he beat her armies. Captured or killed her kids. Conquered her home. And is the one who left a far greater impact on the world. Doesn’t sound like a dunk to me.
@pyeitme508
@pyeitme508 3 года назад
Reminds me of Cleopatra from Space.
@rexblade504
@rexblade504 Год назад
I don't know about her dunking on them exactly, especially Octavian. He got the ultimate dunk on her in the end
@yumsyums3482
@yumsyums3482 3 года назад
Will you guys do an episode on King Sejong in the future? Really love your stuff!
@wilsonsilva2918
@wilsonsilva2918 3 года назад
2:22 she died 2000 years ago why yall still simpin for her
@turtleruski1915
@turtleruski1915 3 года назад
I’m putting this here cause I don’t know any jokes yet
@seermayton-el3488
@seermayton-el3488 3 года назад
EC: Let start with a drunken bet Me: Cheers I'll drink to that bro
@Deas-Mhumhna
@Deas-Mhumhna 3 года назад
Aspen is so cute❤ Its a lovely name for a cobra. They get such a bad rap, they are really amazing and beautiful.
@zerophoenix6758
@zerophoenix6758 3 года назад
Poor Snake >:(
@Eclipse-mf6hc
@Eclipse-mf6hc 3 года назад
0:15 I have a bad feeling about this...
@Zamtrios245
@Zamtrios245 3 года назад
What could you do in in a drunken wager
@Eclipse-mf6hc
@Eclipse-mf6hc 3 года назад
@Zamtrios 7256 what couldn’t I do?
@antonxuiz
@antonxuiz 3 года назад
I love that the graphic puns are coming back!
@nicholasroberts8378
@nicholasroberts8378 3 года назад
There is a story back when Rome was still a regional growing power and there was a low level magistrate in Alexandria when the Seleucids were about today siege. The magistrate walked out and drew a line in front of the Seleucid king and said if you step across this line you answer to the might if Rome. The Seleucid withdrew out of Egypt.
@trilumn8345
@trilumn8345 3 года назад
An Egyptian Asp, named Aspen. I see what you did there.
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