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Queen Cleopatra is a new Netflix supposed documentary from producer Jada Pinkett Smith. The director Tina Gharavi has written a Variety article attempting to defend Queen Cleopatra from complaints as Netflix faces a lawsuit in Egypt. Where an Egyptian Lawyer says Netflix is not respecting Egyptian culture, values or principles. From the trailer, we can probably answer the question, is Queen Cleopatra worth watching?
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@disparutoo
@disparutoo Год назад
Queen Cleopatra on Netflix was always a show that had decided to change history. But before, you could only assume their reasons for it, many assumed it was done simply out of ignorance. But now the Netflix director herself has written an exclusive article for Variety and it's worse than anyone expected. Not only are Netflix getting sued by Egyptian Lawyers of Queen Cleopatra, but now experts who led Egyptian excavations and have even MET Jada Pinkett Smith are proving the Netflix documentary wrong. This story just gets crazier the more they try to excuse it, especially when they admit to being a "re-imagining" of history. But what did you think? Let me know your thoughts below and as always, thanks for watching :)
@absynthminded
@absynthminded Год назад
My guess is the chick that took the job to produce this was not even the 3rd person they asked to do it. I'd be interested to see if I'm right.
@alexfriedman918
@alexfriedman918 Год назад
I never thought the issue was ignorance!
@Darkshizumaru
@Darkshizumaru Год назад
I'm more annoyed because I know there is a short dynasty of actual black pharaohs. Nubian conquerors who took over sometime before Alexander conquered the civilization. I mean it's historically accurate, it's a short dynasty but something most people don't know and would have loved it. Real black history in African countries getting ignored because Jada is a vagithug, it's my term for women who think that all history is too male oriented so they cant stand the idea of real history so they make crap up s women are the perfect rulers. Historically even Cleopatra was a party girl but they didn't like that so they pretend she's Iron man but a woman. Egypt becomes Wakanda in their tiny minds. Tis a sickness.
@HailEarendil
@HailEarendil Год назад
Fundamentally..this is about truth. And many of us are angry & tired of it being distorted to benefit those that don't care about it.
@patriot639
@patriot639 Год назад
Can we not call Hollywood culture American culture. I'd happily chisel away the southern half of the state and let it go the way of Atlantis.
@batmanforpresident9655
@batmanforpresident9655 Год назад
Saying Cleopatra was a black woman is like calling Jada Pinkett Smith a loving wife.
@ganso559
@ganso559 Год назад
Is like calling her rapunzel
@APsychicMonkey
@APsychicMonkey Год назад
Straight for the jugular, well done!
@SpoonySamurai
@SpoonySamurai Год назад
Toppo kekku
@benjaminZ20
@benjaminZ20 Год назад
Sheeeeeeesh.. Lol so fucking true
@DeezNuggz
@DeezNuggz Год назад
ouch!
@h7mostafa229
@h7mostafa229 Год назад
Imagine telling Egyptians that they're wrong to be offended by their history being blackwashed. How dare she.
@fiveduece52
@fiveduece52 Год назад
Imagine saying and showing Jesus as a white man
@fiveduece52
@fiveduece52 Год назад
for decades it hasn't been a problem but a black producers depiction of someone is the end of the world
@ladywinter2536
@ladywinter2536 Год назад
@@fiveduece52 jesus was a jew . Many depictions of him are as a Mediterranean man .
@universesays1842
@universesays1842 Год назад
@@fiveduece52 i hope hollywood comes out with movies where stallin and hitler are black
@fiveduece52
@fiveduece52 Год назад
@@universesays1842 if so it would be no more of a lie than all the history white people have told and created to cover lies
@disslb
@disslb Год назад
It's not cleopatra.. The show is about jada's delusion or "how powerful and influential she would like to be"
@GORILLABREATH1
@GORILLABREATH1 Год назад
jada just needs a new entanglement !1
@badumba5511
@badumba5511 Год назад
@@GORILLABREATH1 Jada hasn't had an entanglement in a while, maybe that's why she's nuts about this.
@catholic3dod790
@catholic3dod790 Год назад
What is entanglement 101? 😂
@arthurpendragon8192
@arthurpendragon8192 Год назад
nobody in their right mind would want a woman like her in any position with influence since she would just be poison.
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 Год назад
I think the only reason she did not cast herself is that she is way too old to play her but then again so is this actress. She was 16 when she first met Caesar I believe possibly 18.
@ghostguru9156
@ghostguru9156 Год назад
“I imagine her wit-“ she isn’t a fictional character you don’t get to just- decide what she looked like 😭she was a real person
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 месяцев назад
And anyway, we do have contemporary depictions of how she looked.
@shannonstevens2476
@shannonstevens2476 Год назад
As an American that loves history, especially Egyptian history, I EXPECT documentaries to be historically accurate. If it's not, it's not a documentary.
@MadamMonchimonchi
@MadamMonchimonchi Год назад
The Mummy is more accurate at this point
@jarrodscoggins3219
@jarrodscoggins3219 Год назад
Weʻll Just call it a work of fiction
@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613
US Hollywood Soft Power at work . As usual
@lefuedebout
@lefuedebout Год назад
@@freegedankenzurbaukunst5613 No, not soft power but black power at work!
@Otokichi786
@Otokichi786 Год назад
At least The Discovery Channel referred to "Mermaids: The Body Found" (2012), as a Mocumentary. So, if Jada Pinkett Smith Doesn't call "Cleopatra" a "documentary," all will be well. But then, Nutflecks, eschews Facts, Evidence and History since "ancient times."
@Anacronian
@Anacronian Год назад
Hollywood: "Pffft what does an Egyptian Egyptologist know about Egypt!?!"
@lefuedebout
@lefuedebout Год назад
... sweet F.A., apparently!
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld Год назад
Hollywood: 'Using that many words starting with 'Egypt' is a red flag, mate. You are hiding something. I bet you don't even know what Egypt means! It literally means, "black-land, even after the Greeks came".'
@DanielDroegeShow
@DanielDroegeShow Год назад
Whatever the apartheid rulers wrote in the books for them to learn?
@herbertbielefelder341
@herbertbielefelder341 Год назад
Her black grandma knew more...😂😂😂
@naoz9228
@naoz9228 Год назад
​​​​@@DanielDroegeShow Pov you one of the low IQ people that think Egypt was black when they have depictions of tanned people all over the colored paintings and statues with even women being lighter tan colored (that is how accurate they were being, women=stay in more=lighter=that was probably their beauty standards too, cant imagine what they thought of pure black ngl, don't blame me they didn't have wokism in ancient Egypt ok) Speaking of apartheid which Egypt isn't because Egypt variants have mixed through A LOT of differences from 300+years greek 600+years roman and so on, did you know Egypt and Sudan banned south Africa from the first ever african cup because south Africa was being apartheid and only wanted white people to play? Yea Egypt has never been an apartheid I'm not sure where you guys get your bs supply, people literally be darker or lighter tan depending on climate mostly Also my grandpa is probably counted as black by your weird standards of where tan stops and black starts but, you know what, y'all need to fkin stop being racist like that, like holy shi is everything y'all ever think about is color? Don't y'all get married and once u have children do u start labelling them or what?? The fk is wrong with y'all, that's not how modern life is, not just in Egypt, in general. Seriously. The whole thing is just pathetic just discrimination like "oh no egypt u dont fill the black quota for the stereotype of how Africans (a whole continent with many different regions and countries) should look like" that shi would be racist af if it was in white "you're not white enough" Fkin next thing we know we getting the pen test back.
@evilbunz2519
@evilbunz2519 Год назад
"I imagine her with her with curly hair and the same skin color as mine!" You should never start a DOCUMENTARY with lines about how YOU think the historic figure should have looked like. Especially when there are numerous examples of what she actually looked like.
@olotocolo
@olotocolo Год назад
It's worse, in this shit he says that the beautiful think about Cleopatra is that we can all imagine her in different ways. Yes, that is what he says, following this with your quote. They think it's a marvel character
@kinagrill
@kinagrill Год назад
I imagine the Chinese emperor to be fairskinned and very 'scandinavian'. This is essentially what that lunatic was saying XD
@MaskedMan66
@MaskedMan66 11 месяцев назад
@@kinagrill Yup!
@David-ox7ps
@David-ox7ps 8 месяцев назад
Cleopatra was able to accept her African and Greek heritage. To the Egyptians she was Isis, to the Romans she was Venus. You can be more than one thing
@Inastewpopotogo
@Inastewpopotogo Месяц назад
@@kinagrill my grand parents told me that they dont care what my school told me, Martin Luther king WAS WHITE
@SupHapCak
@SupHapCak Год назад
When they say “does a queen not have value if she’s black?” They’re really saying she doesn’t have value if she’s white in the first place, because they were the ones who felt the need to change it.
@RenegadeContext
@RenegadeContext Год назад
It's a question that shows their insecurity. Why wouldn't a black queen have value? And why not make a documentary about any number of black queen's that existed? They don't seem to understand that noone cares if the character is black as long as they don't call it a documentary. If people were pissed for that reason then Hamilton would have had a huge backlash. Lin Manuel never claimed any of the historical figures were black or other ethnicities and that's why it was ok to have those incredible actors play those roles
@Cman04092
@Cman04092 Год назад
Yes, this is the difference between the little mermaid, and an actual documentary. Then again, I'm not egyptian, I'm not the one who's pissed her, i just think its disgusting, but imma forget all about this in 10 mins. Now the little mermaid is problematic, but for a different reason. I find it problematic because hollywood has basically said "black people deserve representation, but only if it's low quality sloppy seconds."
@ahmedbbadran4311
@ahmedbbadran4311 Год назад
As an Egyptian, we suffer from this every day. Thank you for defending history. Black Americans have wanted to take over Egyptian history for decades
@Bla_bla_blablatron
@Bla_bla_blablatron Год назад
you suffer from this Every day? that really made me laugh
@sentinal2343
@sentinal2343 Год назад
"As an Egyptian" as a what ? ha ha simply deluded!
@jorgeloredo100
@jorgeloredo100 Год назад
​@@sentinal2343so he's not Egyptian just because you said so? Lmao talking about deluded.
@irisu-edits
@irisu-edits Год назад
@@sentinal2343 huh? can you provide information as to why this is delusional
@zamar2158
@zamar2158 Год назад
Black americans are called african by others. Therefore they think they own all of africa. Just like they call chinese 'asian' znd so they imagine that all asians are mongoloid. Egypt and maghreb are Mediterranean people, olive skinned Caucasian. Not negroid. Dont let ignorance by lefty americans trying to pander to thei black populace upset egypt and its amazing history.
@davidpar2
@davidpar2 Год назад
“We need to realize that Cleopatra’s story is less about her than it is about who we are” is pure gaslighting.
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler Год назад
Gaslighting Greeks is what those that lied by claimed the former Yugoslavians "Macedonians". Lies are funny. They have a habit of leading to more lies to cover up the first lie. Now Greek history has become a free-for-all for anyone to take it rather than whom it actually belongs to... Greeks.
@mariasophia383
@mariasophia383 Год назад
AFROCENTRISM AGENDA they already calling us north Africans invaders and calling for violence and blood against us saying that these black Americans who are from western African descendant build pyramids in Egypt 🧐🧐🧐 therefore they are the OWNERS of Egypt 🤨🤨🤨
@anthonypalo8191
@anthonypalo8191 Год назад
I still couldnt comprehend how that statement works 😂 I thought cleopatra's story was about cleopatra... I guess i was wrong though.
@RavenCroftLoft
@RavenCroftLoft Год назад
I mean that could be a true statement if they did an honest production. Cleopatra was a Greek woman who ruled over not Greek people. Its really unfortunate because this could probably actually be really fucking interesting.
@mariasophia383
@mariasophia383 Год назад
@@anthonypalo8191 no it's AFROCENTRISM AGENDA wants to replace and claim all ancient civilizations as black people's civilizations it's frustratin and dangerous
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 Год назад
As a Scandinavian. I very much relate to the Egyptians having their history stolen and re-written. We've been suffering the same for decades with shows like Vikings directly contradicting the evidence of what our cultures where like.
@michael3088
@michael3088 Год назад
As an Anglo-Australian double national I equally cringe when they portray both Vikings and Anglo-Saxons so differently from one another especially considering they came from sister cultures who weren't really all that different like they could litterily understand each other's language at the time.
@cwavt8849
@cwavt8849 4 месяца назад
The Vikings is no more meant to be a documentary than was Blazing Saddles or A fistful of Dollars. The difference is that the Vikings was always pure entertainment. Cleopatra was titled as a Documentary. BIG difference
@Erowens98
@Erowens98 4 месяца назад
@@cwavt8849Especially early on, vikings was marketed based upon its "attention to detail" and "cultural accuracy". Though of course being based on Ragnar Lothbrok in of itself excludes it from historical accuracy. You are however right that it was never claimed to be a documentary of any sort.
@averybishopmartin6964
@averybishopmartin6964 Год назад
This isn't a historical drama, this is a self-insert fanfiction
@kinagrill
@kinagrill Год назад
It's a Blackumetary.
@killerbye1985
@killerbye1985 Год назад
Now THIS is cultural appropriation.
@rediettadesse2828
@rediettadesse2828 Год назад
Why are the whites the BIGGEST MOUTHS here ? you hv Europeanised Egypt in past movies too , it's non of white ppls buisness here
@englishatheart
@englishatheart Год назад
But only white people can do that. /s
@autisticscreechling4950
@autisticscreechling4950 Год назад
Couldn't agree more! But they'll never admit it.
@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613
@fromtheheavenlyrealms8613 Год назад
How is that when the Egyptians left drawings on their walls of how they looked? Why is that ignored for what people "want" to believe?
@TheGalantir
@TheGalantir Год назад
so are 99% of all their weaves.
@batmanforpresident9655
@batmanforpresident9655 Год назад
There are many historical black African queens: Amina of Zaria, Nandi of The Zulu kingdom, Makers of Ethiopia (the queen of Sheba) and Kandake, the empress of Ethiopia, to name a few. Why can't Netflix make an original movie about them instead of race swapping?
@DeezNuggz
@DeezNuggz Год назад
because its about dividing people, thats the end goal. pit the races against each other so they dont look up and notice whos pissing on their heads.
@cozzie4ra
@cozzie4ra Год назад
Because they lack the talent to do so.
@dariovirga7711
@dariovirga7711 Год назад
I'd dare say Cleopatra is more popular and these guys can't find Ethiopia on the map
@richardnellson5257
@richardnellson5257 Год назад
Queen of Sheba would be the obvious choice, I would think!
@fantasticmrnox
@fantasticmrnox Год назад
Coz that director want to stir the pot. And she did. I'm sure she's gonna be hired for more directing gigs (maybe not)
@PenTheMighty
@PenTheMighty Год назад
It's a shame we have to sit front row and witness why Pinkett is just a toxic person and why Will looks so tired. A person that gets off on stirring the pot and causing drama is not a good partner unless they work to change that part of themselves. Pinkett not only isn't willing to change but appears to enjoy making people uncomfortable in order to control them. The best thing that we could have done is ignore her like we ignored her music career.
@Cman04092
@Cman04092 Год назад
Will smith deserves her at this point, and i don't feel bad.
@thayilakshmi
@thayilakshmi 10 месяцев назад
I genuinely feel bad for Will.
@Gotofy105
@Gotofy105 Год назад
What is so stupid with what this director is doing is she literally could have just said it was a Cleopatra inspired character and she could have done whatever. I don’t understand why this has to even be a documentary!
@AD-dg3zz
@AD-dg3zz Год назад
This whole thing would not have mattered nearly as much if they simply called it a docu-drama or historical fiction. The level of arrogance, and the inability to view race outside a western context is staggering. Even if she hadn't made this blunder and made a series on powerful women that were actually African, it still feels weird to lump them all together as "black" because they most certainly would not have identified themselves that way.
@comedicsociopathy
@comedicsociopathy Год назад
​@@AD-dg3zz *US-American context Except some woke bleeding hearts, Europeans don't buy those old ass race theories.
@lilyblossom1240
@lilyblossom1240 Год назад
Afrocentric The belief that they were literally every group important in Africa and they were also the Jews and Native Americans. You know because cultures can never have things that look alike but aren’t the same thing.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 Год назад
Its not a documentary, its another bit Hollywood rubbish. Only if you are massively intellectually challenged could you begin to think it was a documentary.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 Год назад
@@AD-dg3zz What is with Americans? Why are you all so fucking dumb? Really. Calling it a "docu-drama or historical fiction" still perpetuates your collective crass ignorance of history. What can we expect next from the book burning, science denying Americans? Go put your head in a bucket.
@abdelrahman6536
@abdelrahman6536 Год назад
I'm Egyptian and this is beyond ridiculous I was once talking about my country's history and then an American told me to keep myself out of black people's business 😂
@TheCrossing2271
@TheCrossing2271 Год назад
As an American, I know many of us are ignorant. Good thing I'm not one of them.
@K01T4tt00
@K01T4tt00 Год назад
🤬 thank you for sharing. That's infuriating.
@Arthur.H.Studio
@Arthur.H.Studio Год назад
Yep.. that's my effed up country for sure! I'm sorry. 😅
@whatabother2001
@whatabother2001 Год назад
Americans 🤦‍♀
@OPWasatchReptiles
@OPWasatchReptiles Год назад
Due to slavery most African Americans don’t have passed down traditions and lack since of belonging. That leads to them awaiting to attach themselves to anything other than their actual history and so that we can’t correct or question it, they make the subjects “Blacks Only” or your a racist.
@donjindra
@donjindra Год назад
What bothers me about Cleopatra being cast as black? The lie bothers me. Lies should bother everyone.
@RoseBaggins
@RoseBaggins Год назад
What bothers me? You mean besides the fact that I don't care about your life story, Jada? You are not as interesting a character as you think, but that's narcissism for you.
@donjindra
@donjindra Год назад
@@RoseBaggins I'm not Jada.
@alexbedini731
@alexbedini731 Год назад
Apparently lies dont bother liberals!!
@mydogsbutler
@mydogsbutler Год назад
Most people had no problem lying claiming the former Yugoslavians "Macedonians". To this day nearly everyone lies about it.
@BayWa4eva
@BayWa4eva Год назад
​@@mydogsbutler what do you mean with that? afaik macedonia existed far far earlier than yugoslavia.
@aff77141
@aff77141 Год назад
God they REALLY shouldn't have gone for a documentary angle or they just mightve gotten away without the entire world blasting them. Like they literally just made up every detail, treated it as fact, and expected to get away with it
@pandayy8865
@pandayy8865 Год назад
"We need to realize Cleopatra story is less about her than it is about who we are" That's like saying "my opinion doesn't represent me!"
@Jeff-cn9up
@Jeff-cn9up Год назад
Director: "What bothers you so much about a black Cleopatra?" Greeks and Egyptians and history buffs: "What was it that bothered you so much about a Macedonian Greek one that you deliberately changed it?"
@spirogiannaki
@spirogiannaki Год назад
Director, dont know what are talking about. Go back to elementary and study.
@volourn9764
@volourn9764 Год назад
And, they try to gaslight Egyptians over it. Lol
@quinquiry
@quinquiry Год назад
in 20 y from now the woke teachers will tell kids that Einstein, Newton, Napoleon were black
@scratchy996
@scratchy996 Год назад
Director : "This is not even about Macedonia, Greece, or Egypt, it's about MEEEE !"
@olympiahendrix4392
@olympiahendrix4392 Год назад
too many drugs? low IQ?
@keithmichael112
@keithmichael112 Год назад
Who are you going to believe, actual archaeologists or someone's grandma
@shoelessjoe5990
@shoelessjoe5990 Год назад
Please don’t ask that - there are way to many idiots out there.
@James_Bee
@James_Bee Год назад
Someone's grandma is an archeologist, so... GRANDMA!
@Homeschoolsw6
@Homeschoolsw6 Год назад
Her grandma may not have even said that.
@arks_knights
@arks_knights Год назад
@@James_Beean archaeologist grandma who has Alzheimers and dementia
@primmakinsofis614
@primmakinsofis614 Год назад
Look, what those Egyptian historians know about Egyptian history is nothing to compared to what the film's director knows about Egyptian history!
@briancoyle9379
@briancoyle9379 Год назад
This reminds me of the story of the production of the titanic film. Some random stargazer told james cameron he didnt align the stars correct to the time period and he went in and manually changed the stars in the sky to be historically accurate. Yet an entire nationality is telling this director "you are misrepresenting the race of a real person" and she says "good"
@deadlineuniverse3189
@deadlineuniverse3189 Год назад
“I’m not the same as a German” Me, with a disappointing sigh putting the “Einer von Uns” sign away (this scene has been dramatised for entertainment purposes)
@AshCosgrove
@AshCosgrove Год назад
Me: "What evidence do you have that Cleopatra was black?" Grandma: "Trust me bro."
@flacodeltoro6675
@flacodeltoro6675 Год назад
😂😂
@Ajbajnificent
@Ajbajnificent Год назад
Fortune teller: :also trust me bro". This is a SCIENTIFIC FACT.
@thespyingeyeofmordor
@thespyingeyeofmordor Год назад
Sekhmet and Tuthmose: Into the crocodile-infested portion of the Nile you go.
@ericpode6095
@ericpode6095 Год назад
Ancient Alien level of facts.
@Gyrfalcon312
@Gyrfalcon312 Год назад
"Believe me, chile."
@aimeekatekelly353
@aimeekatekelly353 Год назад
I couldn’t believe it when I read that she said Egyptians were furious with her and she was okay with that , how disrespectful can she be ? It almost like she is intentionally stirring
@iloveit9468
@iloveit9468 Год назад
Turn that situation around and cities would be burnt down and people hurt ! The lack of intelligence they display and seem proud of somehow, is staggering!
@l.b.9567
@l.b.9567 Год назад
Arabs came to Egypt in 639AD. Black people were there as kings thousands of years before that
@iloveit9468
@iloveit9468 Год назад
@@l.b.9567 please state your sources to support your claim.
@l.b.9567
@l.b.9567 Год назад
@@iloveit9468 You must refute my statements with evidence. The ancient Egyptians wrote that they came from the beginning of the Nile. Tell me what year the arabs conquered Egypt?
@mahmoudsalah347
@mahmoudsalah347 Год назад
​@@l.b.9567 When arab conquered Egypt the Greeks was ruling this land and the local lived under their ruling no one moved to another land and my DNA have only 7% Arabic so just stop make yourself like you know and you just stu*pd just focus in your country and stop stealing other people country
@Baensky
@Baensky Год назад
The Big Question is how in the hell was she able to create this since fiction at the first place ?
@PaulMurrayCanberra
@PaulMurrayCanberra Год назад
What bothers us so much? It's amazing how people who whine about being "erased" pretend to be shocked when other people also don't like it.
@namanhngovi2376
@namanhngovi2376 Год назад
This documentary is as faithful to history as Jada Pinket Smith is to Will Smith
@drend182
@drend182 Год назад
ouch !!
@gayehunter-gornall9628
@gayehunter-gornall9628 Год назад
Burn baby, burn
@denkerbosu3551
@denkerbosu3551 Год назад
It was just an entaglement!
@eo0-g9j
@eo0-g9j Год назад
they both got an open relationship. not just her
@bethanywhite877
@bethanywhite877 Год назад
Good one…lol
@RavenCroftLoft
@RavenCroftLoft Год назад
Director: "What bothers you so much about a Black Cleopatra" Disparu: "I dont know love, what bothers you about a Greek one" ME: THANK YOU SIR! a large THANK you from the Greeks.
@markriggelink7074
@markriggelink7074 Год назад
Greek is europe and they hate europe because they are anti White's
@Vanillaqyoo
@Vanillaqyoo Год назад
👏👏✨️
@shaqatwinters3180
@shaqatwinters3180 Год назад
Before the Ptolemy dynasty you do know the Egyptians were dark right? The reason cleopatra is so famous is because she was a Caucasian women that sat on the throne. But a lot of history that has been taught is wrong. A lot of peoples race has been swapped in history
@dizzyishere.
@dizzyishere. Год назад
@@shaqatwinters3180 they were Egyptians before. Not black. But there were black Pharaohs long before from Nubia. They had Egypt for a couple hundred years
@shaqatwinters3180
@shaqatwinters3180 Год назад
@@dizzyishere. that’s what I’m saying the Egyptians were black. When the Ptolemaic dynasty came around that’s when you started having caucasians sit on the throne in Egypt. Over time the original Egyptians where pushed further south. I’m honestly if I was Caucasian I would only talk about this small part of Egypt history too because is when Caucasians came in. The funny thing is Alexander’s people didint call themselves Greek until they defeated the original Greeks, Hellenistic period
@kilssj2250
@kilssj2250 Год назад
"The opposite of love is not hate, it's indifference. The opposite of art is not ugliness, it's indifference. The opposite of faith is not heresy, it's indifference. And the opposite of life is not death, it's indifference." - Elie Wiesel
@liviuursegr
@liviuursegr Год назад
17:24 Fortuneteller to Jeda: "I see big things orbiting UrAnus"
@MarthaAnthony
@MarthaAnthony Год назад
'What bothers you so much about a black Cleopatra?' 'I don't know love. What bothers you so much about a Greek one?' 😂🤣
@TheFiddle101
@TheFiddle101 Год назад
In fact, it would have been wonderful to have black directors and screenwriters involved in writing a credible Ptolemaic Cleopatra. Years ago, Steve McQueen, a black British director, directed Hunger, on the Northern Irish hunger strikers, who eventually died. It was powerful and my Irish friends did not have a problem with the director's skin colour because he did not need to race-swap to produce quality.
@MarthaAnthony
@MarthaAnthony Год назад
@@TheFiddle101 You're right, it's about talent and empathy, regardless of skin colour. Virtue signalling seems to get used to distract from a lack of these, in fact, it seems to reduce our empathy in a vicious cycle. What does it teach us about our 'çommon humanity' when people say we can only understand others from our own race? It's like they think a different skin colour makes someone a different, unrelatable species... And explain how that helps people overcome these issues ...
@Jackie89000
@Jackie89000 Год назад
"What bothers you about a black Cleopatra?" Same thing that would bother you about having Mel Gibson play Malcom X.
@autisticscreechling4950
@autisticscreechling4950 Год назад
Or Brian Cranston as MLK or Meryl Streep as Harriet Tubman.
@the_omg3242
@the_omg3242 Год назад
@@autisticscreechling4950 Brian Cranston is a good actor. I'd totally watch that.
@salt4hatersmaitre702
@salt4hatersmaitre702 Год назад
I do think that your example isn't really accurate, as Malcom X was an activist for the black people rights (and was himself black). So this point matered in this situation. But regarding Cleopatra we acknowledge the probably untrue skin color in the netflix representation but how does it after the story in itself ? Why americans are this much into race war things? i'd ask the same question to the show runners and to the people complaining about the skin color of Cleopatra in this show.
@MKR5210
@MKR5210 Год назад
Actually I'd pay to see that 🤣🤣
@LargeInCharge77
@LargeInCharge77 Год назад
@@salt4hatersmaitre702 the difference is they put a bunch of money and effort into trying to convince everyone of a lie, while calling it out it easy, free, and honest.
@otavioscrp3976
@otavioscrp3976 Год назад
2:04 iit's like explaining that human beings evolved from a select group of primates, to a person who thinks we came from mud
@Ouseabour
@Ouseabour Год назад
Lately, I was remembering quite a lot that phrase of Santayana: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". History is is as it is. Trying to changing it, either for ignorance or for the convenience of a political agenda, never leads to anything good.
@jesus_is_my_spotter
@jesus_is_my_spotter Год назад
As an American, we do not as a whole want to change history to push a narrative. Most of us think this is stupid
@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108
@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 Год назад
Americans has made loads of films with white people race swapping. You lot invented the black and white minstrel show.😮
@fidbob
@fidbob Год назад
As an american, you probably think the US defeated nazi Germany in WW2.
@steprockmedia
@steprockmedia Год назад
And I feel bad that we're exporting all this nonsense and frustration to everyone else. Much of the world just wants to watch a nice movie and enjoy some popcorn
@demoulius1529
@demoulius1529 Год назад
As a non-American im not assuming most want to push that narrative. But that a small band of very troubled individuals are.
@Handepsilon
@Handepsilon Год назад
It is unfortunate that a lot of them are in high position than the saner people. Kinda sad, really
@ivorkovac303
@ivorkovac303 Год назад
it's actually a good sign that most people think it's stupid. It shows that there's still a significant amount of people around who still have working brains.
@bethanywhite877
@bethanywhite877 Год назад
Agree
@Kujien
@Kujien Год назад
Yeah I'm really surprised about the dislikes, it's a bit reassuring
@LTDoge-dm3jr
@LTDoge-dm3jr Год назад
Believe it or not. But the only person who would not be offended by this is woke americans. The rest of the entire world sees this for what it is. American blackwashing by those who are most vocally against racism who are themselves openly racist. Anyone would find it disrespectful to see their culture and history vandalised for a group of people who have no connection to said culture/history
@Dante02d12
@Dante02d12 Год назад
To be fair, people can easily create an algorithm to destroy a product's ranking on a website. That kind of review bombing is indeed problematic as the final rating doesn't reflect the population's true feelings towards said product. There are cases where there were legitimate review bombing. I remember on MyAnimeList, the ranking of an anime's season 3 (Chihayafuru, I think?) had been review-bombed and it was visible statistically because there was a surge of thousands of votes on a single day.Yyou could see the spike because the show would usually earn hundreds of ratings before _and_ after that day. It was statistical proof of false decrease, as there was no reason for that spike to exist. But today, the shills (sorry, """journalists""") call out review bombing whenever there is a poor reception. It's just used as a dismissive damage control tactic. It's insulting for the consumers, it's disingenuous, and it shows the creators' true nature.
@randomuchiha6126
@randomuchiha6126 Год назад
When i someone ask you why shouldn't a person be a certain way to satisfy my views and feelings based on some fortune teller stuff i would honestly just classify him as mentally insane. Like the amount of stupidity i feel i have been exposed to make me question the sanity of those people and if they even know what the word History means and how different it is from imagination
@captaintoyota3171
@captaintoyota3171 Год назад
Yup more proof society rewards greedy and shameless. Not the intelligent or honorable. Seriously think about it those who can lie and con and step on others are the most successfull. Its sad and untill we acknowledge every human is greedy given the chance and sucess does not equal intelligence and enforce against corruption socoety is doomed. People think its socialism communism democracy constituional republics NOPE. NONE of those things have ever really existed. They are ideals they ALL get corrupted. So yeah its a human issue yet ppl are so caught up on hamster wheel of society they start believing insane stuff like this
@Rabbitsarewonderful
@Rabbitsarewonderful Год назад
You covered this better than anyone and made it funny too. Thanks for the information and the laughs! I cant wait for Saturday Night Live to take this on.
@serbanalexandriuc6170
@serbanalexandriuc6170 Год назад
The only issue is that they insist calling it a documentary. This is false advertising and should be prosecuted as such.
@manoz6194
@manoz6194 Год назад
Looks more like a mockumentary
@Atheismo9760
@Atheismo9760 Год назад
The only issue is the race swapping.
@ianesgrecia8568
@ianesgrecia8568 Год назад
This is as much of a documentary as the Titanic movie
@DrakeSilver
@DrakeSilver Год назад
​@@Atheismo9760 so... it has a massive issue then? The entire point of a documentary is to gives us what is FACTUAL things and put it into the screen. Anything else and it already fails as a documentary.
@Atheismo9760
@Atheismo9760 Год назад
@@DrakeSilver Yes. I don't see why you're responding to me.
@_Merovingio
@_Merovingio Год назад
I hope the Egyptian Government gets involved and drag both the Director and Producer through the courts and sue them right into bankruptcy, that's the only way these people are going to learn.
@Mohamed-_-Hassan
@Mohamed-_-Hassan Год назад
The fukin* Egyptian government don't care about any thing . They just care about how to kill Egyptian people who want better life and better education , Egypt now is ruled by slayers and Thieves.. And btw they killed the elected president .
@annepowers4734
@annepowers4734 Год назад
A Different World needs in on that suit as well. They taught that nonsense, episode of Whitley teaching black children in school thar Cleopatra was black. This is more yhan likely where Jada got this from.
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 Год назад
A law suite has already been filed by an egyptian lawyer Governments do not sue studios, individual citizens can and do though
@_Merovingio
@_Merovingio Год назад
@@mahmoodali5043 🤣🤣🤣 maybe not in the US I can perfectly recall the lawsuit filed by the Egyptian Government against a DW journo called Al-Aswany, that happened not so long ago and yes it's not the first time it happened. Are you by any chance Egyptian?
@mahmoodali5043
@mahmoodali5043 Год назад
@@_Merovingio yes and I do not recall any lawsuits by the government against Al-Aswany who is a famous (infamous in my opinion) journalist living in egypt still and free to
@a.g.3711
@a.g.3711 Год назад
It's scary when people start rewriting history; it always ended badly
@Guest-mx8or
@Guest-mx8or Год назад
Being watching it several times, this is a great summarising video of everything wrong with this fiction series. Absolutely everything is rotten from historians, producers, director to actresses, scenes, dialogs. 😢
@SpoonySamurai
@SpoonySamurai Год назад
When making shows about historical figures it should NEVER be about "how you imagine them". Thats absolutely insane. I would get canceled if i made a documentary on barack obama.
@everythingisbizzaaaaaro3694
If you ever make that documentary, race-swap him.
@conormurphy4328
@conormurphy4328 Год назад
In my mind Obama is Vietnamese
@tonyclements1147
@tonyclements1147 Год назад
Let's kickstart a MLK film with Bruce Campbell as MLK, and watch the internet implode.
@hoof31
@hoof31 Год назад
​@@tonyclements1147 Can he Have Chainsaw hand i always imagine MLK hand as Chainsaw
@theVictor-isVonDoom
@theVictor-isVonDoom Год назад
@@hoof31 I'd watch
@Mangaka-ml6xo
@Mangaka-ml6xo Год назад
She was probably among those who complained when HBO's series Chernobyl came out. For those who aren't aware, at that time there was complaining regarding the lack of representation in the show, you know, a show about a place part of Soviet Russia in the late 80s, with characters based on individuals for whom we have videos and photos of and no ambiguity regarding their skin color. Made me facepalm hard when I read that.
@persieprince9345
@persieprince9345 Год назад
Inferiority complex
@bethanywhite877
@bethanywhite877 Год назад
I heard that too.
@morriganmhor5078
@morriganmhor5078 Год назад
The same about Kingdom come: Deliverance. North of Pyrenees and Alps in 1400 there were probably about 10 Blacks altogether do they were underrepresented!
@wizardgaming6759
@wizardgaming6759 Год назад
I remember Dunkirk having the same complaint.
@sandralachance1424
@sandralachance1424 Год назад
I agree. IF we make an accurate representation of, let's say, a Danish settlement in 350 ce, people would not like what they will see in term of representativity. Every slightly coloured skin (or heavily coloured) would be slave, along with a LOT of pale skin slave, but it seems that doesn't count. As Whites, we can be depicted as slaves, as long as they are not. Tell that to the white slaves women from the white trafficking today, they will be glad to ear it.
@CausticPuffin
@CausticPuffin Год назад
It’s also worth mentioning that the ancient Egyptians made some very large improvements to art, specifically to realism. They’re the first, as far as we know, to use proper proportions in art. It’s highly unlikely that they changed anyones skin color, as most of this art was religious, and highly venerated. The art would have been a nearly 1:1 copy of the subject.
@nicholasvalentine2428
@nicholasvalentine2428 Месяц назад
58 seconds - 'what bothers you so much about a Greek one?' Nicely put Disparu. That's the way to answer these loaded questions. Turn it back on them and ask 'what bothers you about Anne Boleyn being white, about Britain banning slavery 30+ years before America did, about children being allowed to be children without having to read porn, about young teens waiting to develop enough to decide whether they want to be straight, trans or gay, about black people killing white people ten times the rate of white people killing black people, etc.'. In other words it's important to have faith in thousands of years of humanity and having faith in facts.
@maravreloaded
@maravreloaded Год назад
13:27 The whole _"this isn't about her it's about US"_ describes the whole woke movement. This isn't about story or being right it's about feeling SUPERIORITY to others. It's an _exercise of _*_PURE BLATANT NARCISSISM._*
@sarbear0214
@sarbear0214 Год назад
I saw that and thought, “isn’t that belief disrespectful to Cleopatra herself?”
@s3.14dervision
@s3.14dervision Год назад
I was just about to post the same thing!
@AfriasporaFilms
@AfriasporaFilms Год назад
But isn’t that exactly what white people have been doing for the last 400 years, at least?
@nikkili8944
@nikkili8944 Год назад
Amen to that! Not only is wokeness a cult/an ideology that celebrates narcissism but also attempts to rewrite history a.k.a. historical revisionism to suit its agenda. In its core it's anti white/anti European.
@AfriasporaFilms
@AfriasporaFilms Год назад
@@nikkili8944 when history is whitewashed and full of lies, as it has been for the last 400 years, it needs to be rewritten.
@menaatefadly
@menaatefadly Год назад
Dude, actual Egyptians are severely pissed about this whole debacle and we dont even get close to denying that she was a Greek woman who ruled Ancient Egypt
@bottomlefto
@bottomlefto Год назад
shows how these americans don't respect other cultures at all and think to themselves that the world would be better (for them) if everyone acted like them.
@gembearer67
@gembearer67 Год назад
Macedonian descent
@l.apastore4208
@l.apastore4208 Год назад
She was Greek descent. Only 25% Greek is accounted for. Historians are unsure whom her Mother was, nor are they sure who her Grandmother was. So she could be a mixture of Greek and Berber, Greek and Nubian, etc who knows.
@8wayz2shine
@8wayz2shine Год назад
@@l.apastore4208 or she could be 100% greek - there are coins, statues and family history that are well documented. The family history being that they never married outside of their strata and even resorted to inbreeding to keep it in the family.
@menaatefadly
@menaatefadly Год назад
@@l.apastore4208 yea but the main point is she was known to be Greek and none of us deny it. We had many non Egyptian rulers that we loved like Mohammad Ali who made modern Egypt
@jonlidell9465
@jonlidell9465 Месяц назад
I guess in all that research, they never learned about all the incest going on with royals in general, but especially the Ptolemys.
@adrianscott4288
@adrianscott4288 Год назад
If i had African heritage, I'd actually be pretty pissed that the entertainment industry is choosing to blackwash non-black historical figures, instead of telling stories about people who were actually black.
@franzrogar
@franzrogar Год назад
The old lady: "My grandmother told me in the school they teach lies..." Right... Let me tell you one thing: "Your grandma LIED to you miserably and you believed her".
@juanpablosaenz9037
@juanpablosaenz9037 Год назад
Grandma is right about everything except Cleopatra.
@dizzyrick7653
@dizzyrick7653 Год назад
If her grandmother ever actually said anything like that at all.
@PresGrove
@PresGrove Год назад
Can we just throw Jada away, I’m so sick of her trying to inflate her own ego
@adamdelarozza1985
@adamdelarozza1985 Год назад
she is angry that she does not matter and know she never will.
@TheBandit7613
@TheBandit7613 Год назад
All the Smiths need to go away. From the tranny kid to the slapper. Done with them.
@fluffdumpling8515
@fluffdumpling8515 Год назад
@@adamdelarozza1985 Indeed. SHE is a real dragon.
@libertas5005
@libertas5005 Год назад
@@fluffdumpling8515 Hey! Dragons are cool creatures wtf! She's a poison drake, lesser creature than a dragon, but vile and not noble at all.
@fluffdumpling8515
@fluffdumpling8515 Год назад
@@libertas5005 🤣
@seleuf
@seleuf Год назад
Could you link these articles in the description?
@ViktoriousDead
@ViktoriousDead Год назад
Funny, my grandmother always said “I don’t care what they teach you in school, Jesus was white.”
@J.E.R.O.M.E.
@J.E.R.O.M.E. Год назад
*"My grandmother said..."* That's the reason people think their family heirlooms are worth millions and their father is really their father.
@likeorasgod
@likeorasgod Год назад
I remember watching one of those DNA history RU-vid and this girl was all excited to find out her African history. Well it came back like 80% European. She was all upset and said they must of been slaves that the master raped and such. She talked to her mom who told her to ask her grandma. Come to find out her grandma's mother was white, fell in love with an African man while on a missionaries visit to Africa. Got married and later moved to America. There was no rape, no slave owning, just a happy couple that found each other and got married. That was why they where lighter skinned black not cause of anything esle.
@TheClassicWorld
@TheClassicWorld Год назад
@@likeorasgod Also leftist: marriage is both rape and slavery. Mic drop.
@denkerbosu3551
@denkerbosu3551 Год назад
@@likeorasgod Let me guess, was she frustrated when she heard her grandma wasn't gRaped?
@unwokeneuropean3590
@unwokeneuropean3590 Год назад
"My granny, who could barely read, did most of my education." :-D
@BrigitaMencigarJb29m
@BrigitaMencigarJb29m Год назад
🤣
@borislav6561
@borislav6561 Год назад
Jada wanted to make a series about "Black Queens," only to instantly run out of said "Black Queens" and have to resort to changing other queens to black 🙈
@tkps
@tkps Год назад
I don't think it was just that. People have even named the odd one. She was just too bloody lazy claiming "African history is sparse". Well it will be if you describe individual countries/cultures as an amorphous blob of a continent. It also helps if you pick up the odd history book. But then that's all a bit too hard for HW types who've rarely stick their nose outside LA.
@HufflepuffDaddy
@HufflepuffDaddy Год назад
She should of did a documentary on the black females of Hip-Hop, called them "Black Queens" and would've gotten a better, more appropriate response.
@giannisksanthopoulos4300
@giannisksanthopoulos4300 Год назад
Blaming only Jada just shows how shorted eyed ranged are you people here. Many stupid delusional people said that Cleopatra was black long long ago Jada Smith... But somehow you didn't now about it... Why? Why now
@neillindgren8992
@neillindgren8992 Год назад
Well, Anne Boleyn was black. BBC said so, so she could have made a documentary about her being a black queen. 😉🤣
@enkisdaughter4795
@enkisdaughter4795 Год назад
There are loads of ancient Black Queens from Africa, but this narcissistic creature from hell wants to steal other peoples' history and ancient culture!
@ahleenah
@ahleenah Год назад
fun fact: brits are technically genetically closer related to Egyptians than the rest of Africa. If African Americans do have Egyptian ancestry, it is from their "white" ancestors, not their black ones.
@sebastianrutkowski1162
@sebastianrutkowski1162 Год назад
Producer: if you don't like it ,don't watch it The viewers: ok,done
@j.springer1496
@j.springer1496 Год назад
Historical accuracy is less important than letting young African American girls know that they too can fail conclusively and die from a self-inflicted snake bite.
@ramonserna8089
@ramonserna8089 Год назад
To be fair that snake bit was also a reimagine created by shakespare (but he never claimed he was writing a documentary)
@tankmaker9807
@tankmaker9807 Год назад
It is probable that agustus had her killed, however, she did fail, but she held out longer that other people.
@debanydoombringer1385
@debanydoombringer1385 Год назад
She did off herself, but we don't know if it was by asp.
@Hadgerz
@Hadgerz Год назад
Every time they ask the question 'what bothers you about a black Cleopatra?', what they're really saying is 'Cleopatra's Greek heritage bothers us' and we know why, because it counters their revisionist Afrocentric ideology. The great part about this is that none of this would have happened if they hadn't gone and tried to call it a documentary, people would have just been calling out the Afrocentrism instead of *_actually filing lawsuits._*
@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108
@ashlibabbittcroakedit9108 Год назад
Exodus gods and kings was banned in Egypt because it was Eurocentric crap.
@talisa222
@talisa222 Год назад
It's literally the same thing that bothers them about a fully Caucasian, Western European Cleopatra--it's historically inaccurate. Honestly, these people are hypocritical bozos, their question can be answered with a few words. They always have to make it so complicated.
@uberwarlocker
@uberwarlocker Год назад
This might make the "we wuz kangz" larpers become more insufferable.
@tatjana4503
@tatjana4503 Год назад
I say, let the lawsuits begin. Maybe if they're broke, we might get some actual good content in media again.
@x73chevelle
@x73chevelle Год назад
@@uberwarlocker we wuz quaynes n shiet
@andrewblackard3369
@andrewblackard3369 Год назад
Great presentation! Perhaps an Egyptian film-maker should make a "documentary" about George Washington with Cheech & Chong in the starring roles as George and Martha Washington and call it American history reimagined - Who Smoked The Cherry Tree. LOL
@chumpess
@chumpess Год назад
Imagine if Egypt or Greece decided to make a docu-series about someone like…say…Rosa Parks. And they decided to make her Middle Eastern, or Greek. Can you imagine the backlash? The directors would never be able to leave their homes, let alone work again.
@jaenie389
@jaenie389 Год назад
I will gladly support that movie.
@luiselugo9713
@luiselugo9713 Год назад
Double standards
@Thiantrus
@Thiantrus Год назад
Thats why i say they so quickly wanne change white actors and char in movies and even history now to black char but lets do it to figures like Nelson Mandela and change him to a white man and see how they will burn and destroy everything.
@ng.6180
@ng.6180 Год назад
Thank you 💁‍♀️
@dancam9110
@dancam9110 Год назад
I'm going to make a biopic about MLK and cast a White guy to play him.
@eldtritch_eel
@eldtritch_eel Год назад
"He who controls the past controls the future. He who controls the present controls the past." - George Orwell
@Sheppardsg1
@Sheppardsg1 Год назад
who controlls the medias controlls the world kane C&C
@basedbane787
@basedbane787 Год назад
​@@Sheppardsg1 🐀🐁🐀🐁s
@Pahoe77
@Pahoe77 Год назад
They could have taken a page from the History channel's Alien series, - " What if... 😂
@fatgirl4501
@fatgirl4501 Год назад
Jada has NO shame. She doesn’t care who she hurts or lies to- whether it’s society at large or her own immediate family…
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT Год назад
Or lays with
@quatroquatroSJSU
@quatroquatroSJSU Год назад
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT ENTANGLES WITH, have some respect
@DEATH-THE-GOAT
@DEATH-THE-GOAT Год назад
@@quatroquatroSJSU I will but.... don't take Will's wife's name in your mouth 😂😂😂😂
@quatroquatroSJSU
@quatroquatroSJSU Год назад
@@DEATH-THE-GOAT we agree 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@thespider8782
@thespider8782 Год назад
​@@quatroquatroSJSU it only lasted until August
@VorkKnightOfGood
@VorkKnightOfGood Год назад
Woke Americans: "let's change Egyptian history to make a political point in the US" Also woke Americans: "why is it that everyone hates America? Must be Trump's fault!"
@eodyn7
@eodyn7 Год назад
People don't hate America. You're literally on an American website as you speak.
@Blodhelm
@Blodhelm Год назад
Both are valid. Trump revised US history in a speech as he talked about George Washington storming the airports during the revolutionary war. He also loves Putin and Kim Jong Un, so not exactly popular in a lot of places.
@zadaofficial8091
@zadaofficial8091 Год назад
​@@Blodhelm "he loves putin and kim" LOL. If by loving you mean he made them his bitches, yea Putin wouldnt dare invade Ukraine had he been in power.
@mugiwara7347
@mugiwara7347 Год назад
​@@Blodhelm whats bad with liking putin and kim and also airports didnt exist in the time of Washington so it was a joke.
@roberts5539
@roberts5539 Год назад
@@mugiwara7347 yes, everything trump says and does could be described as a joke. Sweeping forests, injecting disinfectant, staring at the sun.
@SwiftNimblefoot
@SwiftNimblefoot 8 месяцев назад
I guess the same people wrote this show who did Castlevania Nocturne, who turned Dorottya Szentes - a medieval hungarian maid of Elisabeth Báthory, who was burned as a witch and in the game, is indeed a witch - into a stiletto-heeled black egyptian vampire priestess.
@theresatrahan2147
@theresatrahan2147 Год назад
My Great grandmother's, told all of their children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren to never tell anyone outside of the family that we are descendants of Native Americans. And up until my son was born (1985), we didn't. Now we proudly claim it, along with all the others that contributed to our make up. Me , I'm a Heinz 57. My son says the same thing. I don't want anyone trying to change what makes us who we are. So I can fully understand why Egyptian's are P.O'd! No one has the right to change your history.
@rorykeegan1895
@rorykeegan1895 Год назад
Americans do it all the time ... Try watching an American movie about WW2, its always a litany of stolen valour.
@MegaMan-bs3oy
@MegaMan-bs3oy Год назад
That old woman is the type of person that would also say "my grandma said no matter what they say or do the white man hates you".
@jessejames8900
@jessejames8900 Год назад
My momma said alligators are ornery because they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.
@lopdizzle9941
@lopdizzle9941 Год назад
Well......might be on to something there
@MegaMan-bs3oy
@MegaMan-bs3oy Год назад
@@lopdizzle9941 Oh pfft. Let me go tell that to my mixed gf of 5 years ha ha
@lopdizzle9941
@lopdizzle9941 Год назад
@Mega Man homie I was married to a black women for 10 years. So you can miss me with that shit....I just call it like I see it.
@lindastone6868
@lindastone6868 Год назад
Cleopatra was real, not "imagined", so can't be "reimagined"!
@th3mous380
@th3mous380 Год назад
True. "Misrepresented" might be more appropriate.
@shanenolan5625
@shanenolan5625 Год назад
Exactly
@proto-geek248
@proto-geek248 Год назад
I think I re-remember, my grandmother reimagining the same thing.
@nartali9683
@nartali9683 Год назад
She was imagined a 1000 times to be snow white with blue eyes wich she wasn't, she had a Greek and Persian ancestry, she would have looked like any person who lives on the Eastern coast of the Mediterranean, and I don't think that you consider those white people if you know any thing about geography😂😂😂😂😂
@ImEmpTy295
@ImEmpTy295 Год назад
Funny thing is, the director looked exactly how i imagined she’d look like. Esp haircut
@LayAloria
@LayAloria 4 месяца назад
“WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN SMOKING?!” 😂
@draxrdax7321
@draxrdax7321 Год назад
They should just call it a mockumentary instead and get on with it. Make it truly laughable, embrace the ridiculousness and stupidity!
@AGS363
@AGS363 Год назад
Sadly they do not have any humor.
@absynthminded
@absynthminded Год назад
You have to remember the chick who was told by a fortuneteller she was connected to the story, is delusional to start. She 'believes'.
@HufflepuffDaddy
@HufflepuffDaddy Год назад
Yeah, something like "This is Spinal Tap"! It would be a blast!
@SammEater
@SammEater Год назад
Asterix and Obelix is more historically accurate than this "documentary".
@KimmminemWest
@KimmminemWest Год назад
Why is it stupid she has brown skin?
@insane_troll
@insane_troll Год назад
Any sentence that starts "I don't care what they tell you in school" is liable to go badly.
@johnpepple3456
@johnpepple3456 Год назад
Thanks for this rant. This kind of thinking has been percolating for some time, but I thought it had been put to rest back in the 1990s with Mary Lefkowitz's book Not Out of Africa. But no, we still have to battle against those who don't care about reality but prefer wishful thinking instead.
@eric2500
@eric2500 Год назад
In ROME Cleopatra was portrayed by an actor with dark blond hair and a cute little tiny nose, unlike the Cleopatra profile coin, which showed a big straight nose. DIDN'T MATTER. *Her acting was amazing. The script was good.* She convinced me that that is how Cleo 7 could have used her mind and body to play power politics. *It is all about the acting.* (And yeah, that son of Ceasar was likely really his, not the son of some rando centurion, and was almost certainly killed by Octavian Augustus and did not survive, but that WAS good fiction, well written and acted.)
@akosipalpogi
@akosipalpogi Год назад
“What bothers me a lot about a black Cleopatra” is that this mini-series called itself a documentary when it is full of historical innacuracies. Kleopatra VII is of a Makedonian stock, mixed with a tinge of Persian blood (due to an intermarriage with the Seleukids), but not a Nubian nor a Kushite.
@cyrilmagi6201
@cyrilmagi6201 Год назад
And even the Seleukids had macedonian heritage considering their empire was created by one of Alexander the greats general much like Ptoleme had in Egypt.
@proto-geek248
@proto-geek248 Год назад
Ty Wiki
@davidcalado1
@davidcalado1 Год назад
The Seleucids dynasty was also Macedonian Greek.
@akosipalpogi
@akosipalpogi Год назад
@@davidcalado1 yup, that’s true. Though one Seleukid have married a Persian princess, just like what Alexander of Makedon did. So whatever Persian blood Kleopatra had, she got it from one of her Seleukid ancestor. 😉
@TrueFork
@TrueFork Год назад
This reminds me of shenanigans about the tenuously alleged tomb of Cleo's half-sister Arsinoe in Alexandria where some pseudo-scientists tried to argue she was part African based on a 1930ies era drawing of the (now lost) skull found in that tomb by using nazi-style phrenologic arguments. Some people seem to really want to grasp at any straw to argue that Cleopatra was black for some reason.
@adamumagpire7848
@adamumagpire7848 Год назад
Love how Cleopatra saved the civil rights movement in America by beating King Kong in a fist fight...so brave.
@johnmihelis1699
@johnmihelis1699 Год назад
Well, she did have help from Godzilla. If you recall, they were dating at the time.
@bingodeluxe
@bingodeluxe Год назад
@@johnmihelis1699 That's ancient history (!) She's been with the Cloverfield Monster for a while now, breaking poor Godzila's heart.
@cynthiasn6435
@cynthiasn6435 Год назад
Lol
@tigerkahlua1609
@tigerkahlua1609 Год назад
Also Cleopatra was trans FYI
@user_mll374
@user_mll374 Год назад
@@johnmihelis1699 Were they dating?? Or were they having an "entanglement"???
@themysterylady842
@themysterylady842 Год назад
Literally everything that surrounds this documentary just makes me only think one thought. *Plays clip of the Rick and Morty sun coming up over the horizon screaming bloody murder.*
@drparadox7833
@drparadox7833 Год назад
She really just wrote self insert fanfiction and faked it as a documentary.
@JaynaeMarieXIV
@JaynaeMarieXIV Год назад
As an American female writer and historian of color (who has studied Egypt with experts myself), I've always known Cleopatra was Ptolemaic Greek. She also wasn't hot (like she's always portrayed), but she was known for her charm and intellect.
@tes918
@tes918 Год назад
Well said! Did you notice all the Ptolemies were black! Alexander is rolling over in his grave!
@WIKUS70
@WIKUS70 Год назад
So she was kinda hot.
@Flodhesten
@Flodhesten Год назад
I agree, while there are discussions about other influences, she is mainly described as, and comming from, a ptolemaic greek background. If I remember correctly, her native language is greek, and she is actually remarked for having borthered to learn Egyptian, something which most of the ruling class, most of greek heritage, did not. She chose to be Egyptian and embrazed the culture instead of holding on to her Greek background, and her choosing Egypt over Greece, is perhaps why the people liked her so much.
@alonsoACR
@alonsoACR Год назад
@@WIKUS70 Sources say she wasn't the most attractive woman ever, just average, but her mannerisms, charm, sensuality and intellect swept even the most influential men off their feet instantly.
@churrothiev8387
@churrothiev8387 Год назад
Don't you tell me she wasn't hot with that nose 😂.😂😂😂😂 I kid; I love natural human features.
@qp9vp
@qp9vp Год назад
We had a similar situation in Sweden a couple of years back. They decided to make a "documentary" about the Swedish queens. It just happened to be full of modern political messages. Every king was made to be either a fool, incompetent, or cruel. And every queen was fantastic in every way; competent, intelligent, and adventurous. The worst part, though, was that half of the stories they told were completely made up or based on shaky evidence. So we had lesbian queens, queens having affairs, queens that ran the country in secret, queens that had a larger part of important international events than that actually had. Naturally real historians were outraged, but culture journalists and other journalists defended the "documentary" with very poor arguments. Critics were either anti-feminist or the critic didn't matter because the important part was to project a message to girls that women can or for entertainment value... Edit: There is nothing wrong with telling stories about things not mentioned in the history books such as a lesbian relationship. The point is that things shouldn't be described as true when they aren't or when the evidence is weak. Something real historians know. It's absolutely important to lift the historical figures that have been ignored by historians in the past because of ideological or racial beliefs. But there is no reason to race- or genderswap. The Swedish queens were interesting enough. There have been plenty of powerful or interesting women in, likely, all societies. By ignoring their history, and changing others, you are doing them a disfavour and actually just continuing on the old tradition of selectively choosing historical individuals and events to project your current political messages.
@rayesafan9628
@rayesafan9628 Год назад
Which is so sad that these girls will now have to learn that these “women who could”, actually didn’t. I am all for the fictional historical rewrite. Like Six, right? I love that in Hamilton, George Washington was black. It actually makes you think a lot more than just trying to claim George Washington was black or something.
@Ajbajnificent
@Ajbajnificent Год назад
Jeeesus. I am familiar with norse history and holy shit, it is full of amazing leaders and warriors, of "political drama" (i am referring to the christian conversion thing) of kings, wars and shit. Why the fuck would you want to fuck that up? You have the material to make good shit for years LOL. Hell, if you want "powerful females" you can just go to mythology and go hard on Valkyries, shieldmaidens and shit. You don't need to ruin actual history. TF.
@nitro8529
@nitro8529 Год назад
But every little girl can be a queen... No wait, you need to be born into royalty and than when you turn 13 or 14 youll be forced to marry some old disgusting guy thats king somewhere else. Or even better, youll be forced to marry and bang your own brother so the bloodline stays clean. Isnt that what every girl wants?
@critica77y77
@critica77y77 Год назад
@@rayesafan9628 Fictional historical rewrites are one thing. Writing a book where Abraham Lincoln fought vampires? Sure, why not? A documentary that is supposedly meant to portray things as they actually happened? You damn well have to get as much as you can right.
@amronemhb2448
@amronemhb2448 Год назад
That’s insane to hear. Thanks for sharing, its the same concept of twisting history
@eodacal4688
@eodacal4688 Год назад
If someone would come along and make a documentary about the declaration of independence and life in northern America around 1776 and "reimagine" that slavery never existed, her head would explode.
@-newuser-707
@-newuser-707 Год назад
Back then, things were somewhat different to the way you see them. Your head might explode. Read Benjamin Franklin's 1751 essay. That's 25 years before the Declaration of Independence.
@marniekilbourne608
@marniekilbourne608 Год назад
I was thinking Dr. Zahi Hawass was missing from this panel of experts! I swear I have seen him in most of the documentaries I have seen about ancient Egypt.
@moseszero3281
@moseszero3281 Год назад
The director making 'surprise pikachu face' at someone else not being COMPLETELY absorbed with gender and race is the most telling part of this. Another entry in the cult of narcissism.
@valentinegonsalves7322
@valentinegonsalves7322 Год назад
I want Will Smith to play Donald Trump in the Netflix documentary. And I want Disparu to play Barack Obama.
@furnoprime9439
@furnoprime9439 Год назад
@@valentinegonsalves7322 For me I want that one kid from the Game Awards to play as his Unorthodox Rabbi Bill Clinton
@Kwisatz-Chaderach
@Kwisatz-Chaderach Год назад
My favorite part was when she said "The Ptolemys intermarried with the Selucid dynasty" Like oh....That other Greek family?
@ulrichkristensen4087
@ulrichkristensen4087 Год назад
It was one princess, that married a Seleucid prince and actually killed of a whole dynasty, but nahh she does not understand facts
@davidharrison3870
@davidharrison3870 Год назад
Yes, she didn't seem to know.
@scotteboy
@scotteboy Год назад
Did anyone check the education level of the grandma that knew Cleopatra's ethnicity?
@juliag9027
@juliag9027 Год назад
I love how they’re claiming we’re the racist ones (us Egyptians) but like…..who’s gonna break it to them?
@MrCovi2955
@MrCovi2955 Год назад
I live in America, and still shocked on a regular basis by how many people think that all Europeans are the same ethnic group, and that Africa is a single united country.
@jaceyking5015
@jaceyking5015 Год назад
To be fair though, there's a lot of non-Americans who think America is just Texas and California. And then New York City is floating around somewhere.
@theVictor-isVonDoom
@theVictor-isVonDoom Год назад
@@jaceyking5015 I mean it is tho
@SuperSuperdude88
@SuperSuperdude88 Год назад
how many ignorant people lump " white people" into a single category??? flaming racists thats who
@Ajbajnificent
@Ajbajnificent Год назад
Thankfully, most of us don't really give a shit about what most of americans think. Mostly because and no offense to you (you're clearly not a moron), we think most americans are fucking stupid.
@henricusinstitoris2325
@henricusinstitoris2325 Год назад
Yeah I totally agree. I went to public school and remember how it was 20 years ago and it was bad then. God help us
@Talviir
@Talviir Год назад
"it's not about her, it's about us (me)"...narcissism runs rampant in these social justice warrior sociopaths.
@andyt2979
@andyt2979 10 месяцев назад
Yes, contemporary portraits of kings and queens was always skewed towards the romantic ideal of the time, and thus they're not always reliable. However, in the case of Cleopatra there are numerous greek, roman and egyptian sources about what she looked like, and thus we can build a far more accurate picture of her. Turns out she wasn't black after all. Shocker.
@antonisioannou1977
@antonisioannou1977 Год назад
i can tell you as a Greek all of Egyptians like Greeks we allways had a good relationship.
@denvan3143
@denvan3143 Год назад
I remember my grandmother telling me “No matter what they tell you in school, Abraham Lincoln was the first man on the moon.“ We had to put grandma away.
@andyusfca
@andyusfca Год назад
You killed her?
@GabrielArchon
@GabrielArchon Год назад
​@@andyusfca away, not out
@mjones4083
@mjones4083 Год назад
& Hamilton was black - just like the little mermaid.
@manher4335
@manher4335 Год назад
Aww man. You pulled an "old yeller" on grams? Had to take her out back? Lol
@denvan3143
@denvan3143 Год назад
@@manher4335 no, we put grandma in a retirement community, where she met a man who calls himself, Abraham Lincoln. They are both very happy.
@kentslocum
@kentslocum Год назад
When people give up on objective truth and decide that truth is subjective, we are in serious trouble.
@Jbickley00
@Jbickley00 Год назад
The truth in history is indeed subjective, but it’s still based on evidence and here there is no evidence to support the show’s contention.
@3passionflower
@3passionflower Год назад
u mean like meghsn markles truth
@q45ij54q
@q45ij54q Год назад
Postmodernism in a nutshell.
@Dravianpn02
@Dravianpn02 Год назад
No one is supporting Netflix except for Netflix. The vast majority are against what they are doing.
@solan7978
@solan7978 Год назад
Studies have shown that at least 40% of the U.S. population does NOT believe in objective truth. We ARE in serious trouble right now!
@schlc77
@schlc77 Год назад
Imagine an Egyptian production company putting out a documentary on Martin Luther King jr. Or Malcolm X and using the whitest male actor to play these historic man in their series. We would not hear the end of the uproar.😵‍💫
@kevinharris9476
@kevinharris9476 Год назад
"I went to Netflix and was appalled that their documentaries weren't exactly historically accurate." I don't know that that's on Netflix man.
@MaestroSmoke
@MaestroSmoke Год назад
"Every record has been destroyed or falsified, every book rewritten, every picture has been repainted, every statue and street building has been renamed, every date has been altered. And the process is continuing day by day and minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Party is always right." - George Orwell, 1984
@BrigitaMencigarJb29m
@BrigitaMencigarJb29m Год назад
😢
@natalieanimal4063
@natalieanimal4063 Год назад
It seems Newspeak, destruction of words, pronouncing family as an outdated and harmful concept, vaporizing (cancelling) people, creating the truth, labeling people as thought criminals then having them believe they 'didn't even know I was, it just creeps up on you'...have also become real. Not even Orwell predicted it would be about race, gender and such though.
@-newuser-707
@-newuser-707 Год назад
@@BrigitaMencigarJb29m Yeah. It's sad. Really, especial when a correction is offered and opposed.
@olotocolo
@olotocolo Год назад
it's double funny as those people who want to multiculturalise, multicolorise history are also ones who constantly bitch about us racism in XIX century. Where did it came from? I was taught there were no racist throughout history, all rulers were all colors of the rainbow.
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