Netflix’s Cleopatra is so Much Worse Than You Think 

It's actually kind of impressive how this show managed to make everyone mad lol

@@sisilotau2185 We just need blacks to point out that the show was so bad it brought down the reputation of blacks to get everyone on side.

Have there been any interviews with these people since?

a big part of the black community is seething as well. saying : we couldnt find any fameous black woman. so we made one from a white person. was not only blackwashing. but also really racist. but hey its the bitch who told her bf : go beat up chris rock or i will divorce your ass.

​@@HBADGERBRAD The Egyptian expert published an article in AlJazeera defending himself. He said the production never disclosed the casting choice with him. He also never met the director, and mentioned he was disappointed at her calling the documentary a political act He also didn't know he would be the only Egyptian being consulted on the show.

He was also a transgender woman because women are powerful :D

He was a fighting Queer! 😂

You think they'll wait 400 years? It would be a plot twist if it wasn't in the works already

@@black-redpill3 lol yea it'll release 6 min after his death 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

​@@5tm422 i would believe this rumour 😂

they could of hired an actual Egyptian to play the role of Cleopatra, but I guess that doesn't align with their fantasy.

@@yusuke502 Nah, that wouldn't fit with their pro black Egyptian utopia.

"She's the cleopatra that works best for me, the way I imagined her!" Despot: "That's not history. That's fan fiction" (mic drop)

Egyptians are the Tolkien elves of black people.

Cleopatra was a mixed white from already a mixed arab. It doent change the fact that historical egypt was black, until the many waves of arabs and white invading the land and decimating the locals over the centuries.

Holy shit, you're right.

As well as The Ten Commandments. They cast Yul Brynner as the wicked Pharaoh. I absolutely believed he was an Egyptian king.

​@@AericLee23Yul Brynner was one of those actors that could convincingly play people from different countries, a bit like Anthony Quinn

@@deboraballes9044 I love Anthony Quinn’s portrayal of Caiaphas in Jesus of Nazareth. I was also amazed to hear his Italian in a behind-the-scenes interview.

Ignore the absolutely ahistorical part of prince of egypt where the jews were mass enslaved

Jada Pinkett Smith “Queen of Denial and Entanglements”

Watch out, the cucklord will make effeminate slaps at you!

😂

Be careful, you are gonna get slap.

That's pretty irrelevant to criticism of te docudrama.

Wait until Jada Smith releases her next documentary on Julius Caesar. Because her grandma told her "they ain't no white man named Julius! Caesar was a black man!"

@gintokisakata1917 imagine in 2140 A New documentary about how putin the Leader of Russia Was black because my great alcoholic grandfather said so!!11!!1!!1

It wasn't botched, it was a deliberate attempt to push lies.

Then cry racism when they are corrected. Because holding black people accountable for their actions is racist.

@@geeebuttersnap2433 Amen to that, mate

I used to find american Afro-centrism really funny. Now its getting f*cking worrying.

The only think blks did was invent necklacing and famine as a normal state of affairs. No wonder they're so brazen in stealing everyone else's history.

The positive is that the other minorities aren't going to lay down and show their bellies to this crap.

Would be funny to have Hollywood and co portray how many african nations developed after the colonial empires fell apart.(colonialism itself being a different topic)....But an awefull amount of regions in africa have gone back to"Oh,nice stick that can shoot fire.Want to trade it for these villagers we captured"@@kenricnarbrough8191

You obviously did not actually watch the docudrama. No one in the docudrama thinks Cleopatra is black, and in fact that view is refuted in the first 20 minutes. There apparently are people who think that (and old, dead grandma was apparently one), but Netflix definitely does not. Did you only watch the 2 minute trailer? Or are you listening to lies on the internet?

@@Noxthedunmer If they want to make an African Queen documentary why not make one that is true and not made up. If they need a Black Queen why not tell the story of Seble Wongel Empress of Ethiopia. During the Ethiopian-Adal war and how important she was as an advisor and counselor to her sons and grand children.

As a white African, its not uncommon to see people equating Africaness to blackness.

So, Arabs are native to Africa now? you are aware that your people invaded alllll of north Africa during the 7th century AD right?

Bro I made a video about the actual black pharaohs (kushite empire) and you wouldn't believe the amount of pseudoscience garbage that has been posted in the commentsection lmao

This time they lost, brother. Far more people know the truth about Queen Cleopatra now because of people debunking their lies.

Can the Egiptian people make a documentary about Abraham Lincoln? Just make him Arab descendent. My grandma told me no matter the school teach me, he was Musulman. 👁️ 👄 👁️

blessings and peace be upon Egypt - 🍁

Hell, the fate anime/game series is more accurate, let me toss in the shin megami tensei version of Cleopatra

Ubisoft do their research...:)

Bruh, Hoi4 with community mods are more accurate than this freaking show. Let alone Assassin’s Creed.

Also nasuverse version as well

😂😂😂😂😂

you might cheer for that egyptian lawsuit, but if you believe in freedom of speech you should also believe in the freedom to be a stupid fucking idiot. Netflix is first and foremost an entertainment platform and not advertised as a font of knowledge. and they are also not a establishment of factual truth like the Justice system. Netflix is not news like Foxnews, the former can spew lies and bs while the latter lost a billion dollars from tucker and his voting machines.

What if I imagined her as Mexican? Would I not be wrong?? If history is just about imagining then let's do a historic documentary on the 11 child Spartans who kills a billion french musketeers by throwing bananas at them after learning thier weakness thanks to the help of spiderman

My grandfather told me MLK was white so it must be true 🫤

@@Jay3up My grandfather told me that Malcolm X was white, then faked his own death and changed his name to Shaun King!

And that is the truth, the Golden Age Black Panther was white... It's the Silver Age one who was black...

🤣🤣🤣

You are strong and brave! Men can give birth!

@@Melvin-Deeply infidel does not mean stupid....:)

​@@Melvin-Deeply Egypt is more secular than you think.

@@Melvin-Deeply lol did the Egyptians call you an infidel telepathically???

​@@Melvin-Deeply i know Muslims and we disagree alot but I would rather argue with a fellow man of God then some stupid fools who don't even believe in a higher power...and the Muslims agree.

You are infidel to our beliefs and we are infidel to your/non muslims beliefs so it goes both ways which we don’t believe in the same god cuz people are different you know,however almost the entire planet agreed on one thing and one thing only Cleopatra was not black and the series is trash! 😂

Yeah, it works very much against them in my opinion. The way they approach female empowerment reeks of overcompensation and just reminds me of the Mary-Sue characters I used to read in fan fiction that used to annoy me so much. If you want to make a point about the strategic brilliance of a female character, you shouldn’t need to dumb down a man to make her look better by comparison.

@@ayana_0150 EXACTLY!

Every single white male character in the last series of F*cking Fargo.. You know what I can't even say or type it without putting the word F*cking in front anymore.

That’s every single sitcom. The husbands are always complete idiots and the wives are always right.

Everyone in my house stood up and clapped

How dare you gender assume! SHE was white!

😂😂😂 i aqree

Black is the new Nazi

Momma says Life is Like a Box…🤣 FR like the fact that this whole show is based on “I DONT CARE WHAT THEY TELL YOU IN SCHOOL” just makes a mockery of so many aspects of history and even film making.

you know how we can prove that Martin Luther Sr. was a white German^^.

And Hollyweird has become Orwell's Ministry of Truth come to life.

Really similar to another quote *_“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”_* - Joseph Goebbels, war propagandist for the Nazi Party

I am a victim of that

Ah yes, no one can handle Asterix and Obelix, not even the mighty Romans.

@@Fullmetal85 Netflix could actually be an Asterix character.

Not really and Gual was not a country. It was a race of tribes only united by Caesar for a short time until they lost. It was the Germanic tribes who held out until Rome overcome by uncontrolled migration weakened by corrupt multi ethic army and broke by social spending who beat their B

It's a reference to a funny Comic book series

@@edmundcowan9131it’s a reference to a cartoon chill 😂

Also the incest part, the part where she married her brother according to an ancient Egyptian custom.

@@jeanvandenberg8986 Obviously, neither of you actually watched the docudrama!

It goes over the incest and the issues between her and her own siblings. I don’t remember if it glosses over her brother trying to get rid of her in a coupe but it does mention the incest. She married both of her little brothers and the stuff with her sister is also in it

My grandma told me “now matter what they tell you, the slaves from Africa brought to USA were white.”

@@patdaley9098 You clearly didn't, and just in case you need a reminder, dude, it's BAD and 1000000% historically INaccurate. :)

“Reflection of myself”

@@CEAsfg "Yes, Mr Reflection, that is indeed a reflection of yourself."

And it’s not like it’s a hard guess either, like I wonder who Cleopatra VII’s mother and grandmother is, it couldn’t POSSIBLY be another Cleopatra, 🤯

English. She has an English accent. Britain contains the Welsh, Scots, and those across the way under N.I. _All vastly different accents and even languages_

@@n0odles86 touche

patdaley9098: "yOu dIDn't WatCh thE doCUdraMa dIdn'T yOu?"

​@@n0odles86If you're going to be that pedantic then she doesn't even have an "English accent" and you'd want to specify because there are more English accents in 10 square miles than there are across multiple American states.

English accent is a British accent.@@n0odles86

right and I cannot believe no one talks about how she groomed her sons friend! WTF

@@masunrise7471 Older Women benefit from young Men lusting after them. Whatever benefits Women is good, whatever benefits Men is neutral at best and evil if it inconveniences Women.

@free_at_last That's the truth. Female nature is very ugly.

Like as if Cleopatra was faithful too. LOL ☕

@@aaironparker2837 only thing Jada relates to cleopatra. They're both wh0r**

They were planning to call any white American saying anything racist as usual but they didn’t take into account that Egyptians can speak and call out their lies without being called racist since we are not white 😂

​@@ahmadesmail Roast them for us, Egypt-bro. Roast them good.

@@mirceazaharia2094 😂😂😂

This is something that people don’t pay enough attention to, and I’m glad you’re mentioning it. The amount of focus they put into the camera shots in both the acting and the monologue tells you all you need to know about their bullshiete agenda. There are certain shots that they want to stand out more than others (i.e., those annoying little boss bitch side eyes from Cleopatra)

@@ahmadesmail Allow me to be the first to welcome you lads to the White Race when the left screeches about you like they did the Cubans and Asians.

Don't know if you watched it. But she actually says she had a dream that Cleopatra visit her in a dream. Told her to tell her story.

@@kylemendoza8860 ...right after she was offered a stupid amount of money to weasel-word history into making black Cleopatra plausible...

Well at least it's accurate and not that white washed crap they gave us in school

She needs to check her own racism instead of accusing audiences of being racist. 😅 “Oh, I won’t study this queen of European descent bc of her skin colour.”

@@kylemendoza8860 Lol..I heard about that, she had a dream that cleopatra came to her, stupidity at its finest. I’m still shocked that Netflix approved trash like this, they should go broke and close down.

It's inaccurate: Palpatine was actually intelligent

I think the moment she said 'its morbin time" was the moment that blew me away.

😂😂😂😂😂

Dudeeee i lost it when abraham lincon said to cleopatra "we was kkweennzzz" and finally took his mask off revealing he was a black tranagender woman. We all cried

But what about when she destroyed the Roman armies with her farts 💨? That was surely empowering!

When Cleopatra, Anne Boleyn and Haakon Sigurdsson used the Delorean to stop Sauron and Octavius from completing the Death Star and reclaim Europe from the evil ‘whitey colonizers’ I was shaken, and when they busted out into a rap song, I had to scoop my jaw off the floor. 😂

Sounds like a smart woman... most never notice me

That's exactly the plot of the movie "The Boy" 😅

this reminded me of a comedy skit from blark and son He is in the walls

​@@queenberuthiel5469 I was just thinking that...

I remember my grandmother saying to me"I dont care what they tell you in school, "Malcom X was Asian"

And when they call you out on it you get angry and call them racists.

And considering a woman "strong" if she trains , moves, have s*x and behave ruthless and prepotent like a male stubborn jerk. Hollywood female characters became what self respectful men and proud women don't need and don't want to be.

How about females who actually existed being shown the way they were? In real life Cleopatra was not a warrior woman.

There are many ways to be strong plus being strong doesn’t mean you will succeed in fact it could be your downfall just look at Julius Caesar he was killed by his own alies because he was so powerful it scared them

@@alicianelson1252 by all means Julius Caesar succeeded. His death was premature but that does not at all take away from his accomplishments, and arguably his biggest accomplishment of all, his commitment to mentoring and raising Octavian, Augustus. Arguably the greatest emperor that Rome ever had.

@@yesyes-om1po true but if he kept himself in check and didn’t scare the shit out of people he could of lived longer and accomplished more still not the only Roman emperor to be murdered

Its a type of pshychological warfare, they just screech the same thing repeatedly to piledrive the nonsense through mental attrition.

Cleopatras father Ptolemy XII was illegitimate and only became Pharaoh after his father and then half sister had died. Being illegitimate meant he was probably not fully Greek and likely of mixed Greek and Egyptian heritage. Cleopatra became Pharaoh upon his death. There is no record of Cleopatra’s maternal line. Neither her mother (supposedly Cleopatra V) or Grandmother is confirmed. It makes sense that her mother was mixed (African and Greek) especially as she is the only Ptolemy to learn Egyptian.

let add - men and all european skin color to your statement👍

@@infinitesimotel That's what toddlers do.

@@DirtyTurtle67 Indeed, but do they use political race rhetoric in their propaganda vectors?

The PhDs will soon be echoing her, lest their right-thinking comrades yank their funding. Higher ed leads the charge up Woke Hill.

I don't even know her gran.

Cleopatra was also a transgender woman 🤣.

ikr!!! my gran told me that cleopatra led the mongol horde after genghis khan and that she conquered all of asia!

Forget PhDs. My grandma Joe Biden knows better than Roman historians. She knows better than the sculptors who created his busts at the time. If you think my grandma Joe Biden is wrong, you ain't black.

Yeah...gloss over that why don't they? I think it's weird that we are so scandalized by her being in a relationship with two different men, one after then other, and being a serial monogamist, when she literally committed fratricide. She was a calculating person who increased her power in maybe not the most ethical ways. You cant ignore that. But of course, they do.

No they admitted to it. I do however agree with their defense. They were products of their time and environment. It really wouldn't be fair to trust them by modern standards. But I think they're a few historical examples that their head would explode if you try to extend the same courtesy.

Easily explained! That was her Greek side! 😏👀

Well, given her father's example, it was kill or be killed in her family. She was a kid herself at about age 16 when she met Caesar! Her story is not unusual in history. It was often kill or be killed in royal families in many cultures throughout history. Yet none of that has anything to do with race.

Because black people can't do anything bad according to Netflix

Indeed. It's like the most asinine thing I have ever heard in a "documentary", yet they try to portray it as some sort of powerful moment. Oh lord the cringe!

So you didn't watch the docudrama but feel you can criticize it,, anyway. The old lady does not agree with her late grandmother, and indeed, they proceed to refute her. They describe her Macedonian ancestry as a Ptolemy, and they discuss some ambiguities in her familyytree; But no one suggests any black ancestors.

@@patdaley9098 I’ve watched multiple reviews of it. It’s utter nonsense and they reimagine history to paint the guys as emotional and inept while cleopatra is the best.

@@mikemcmike6427 As I said, you didn't watch the docudrama but you criticize it anyway. I'm sure the same is true of many of the "reviews" you have watched: they didn't watch it, either.

@@patdaley9098 they provided direct clips and evidence of the nonsense historical reinagination. They paint some of the greatest people in history as irrational, emotional idiots and drunks. All so they can elevate Cleopatra in comparison. It’s not just dishonest but disgusting. Even the critics on Rotten tomatoes give it a 20%. Of all the experts they bring in to Talk there’s only ONE historian with a degree in Egyptology and they aren’t even finished their masters!! Multiple actual experts have come out saying it’s nonsense. Egyptians historians came out saying it’s nonsense. Why you would choose this hill to fight on is frankly embarrassing for you.

They could try making h8.... more juicier

That'll never happen. He was evil, so he will forever be chwite

Jewish hitler

Ive been to brazil and there are actually black nazis! Theres a funny french movie, cant remember the name, but its set in brazil and is kind of a spoof of james bond. There is a scene where there are black nazis. I bet a brazillian was involved with the production.

Native American Ghenghis Khan next pls. And Asian Stalin

I snorted lmao

Egypt survived for thousands of years, it can survive Jada (Will knocks on my door and slaps it)

Lmao

What a leap, from man to country.

only one punch man could handle the 100 pushups, situps and squats. he could manage to handle the baldness.

I see your grandfather was a man of culture

My grandfather said she had 3 big ones. And her real name was Clitophatass.

as a self appointed highly qualified historian, this is 100% accurate

Cleopatra was a dude, man. He died from yanking his snake. 😃

You know, this might not be fake, she was the Marilyn Monroe of her era, except with higher education than Monroe

You seen the new Netflix asterix an obelix?

@@ComradeCommissarYuri It is still more accurate than “Cleopatra”… (and that is saying something).

Yes, in Asterix, Cleopatra had a beautiful nose

​@@martinmayhew145 And a temper ! *Breaks a pot*

Asterix and Obelix were written by Comedian duo, who have life experience, studied history and know how to make jokes. Uderzo based the comic franchise on his life experiences, people he knew, literature he read and understood and also historical facts. Goscinni also did this, but he died by the time Franchise reached its PEAK, then Uderzo had to make comics on his own, which wasnt as high as the peak, but was still near its peak. RIP UDERZO(My second favorite comic book writer) Female He-Monarch was based on isolated world views of activists, who think that entire world is like their Neo-Bolshevik school studies. The Afroamerican Kween is Female He-monarch, but with taste of Cultural revolution in Mao's era. If you want some historical movie, id reccomend 1612, which is a 2007 Russian movie about guy, who joins defense of Moscow against Polish army. Some people claim that this is "Propaganda" because reasons, but i dont see much of the propagandistic things about it, other than "Strong leadership, dangers and treachery of strangers and importance of patriotism"(Like in The Patriot, Braveheart and so on) Or in case of "Historical" TV Show, Spartacus: BLood and Sand(300 + Tits and Ass + Gachimuchi + Jupiter's cock + Gladiator = MANLY MEN)

Everyone know’s that me’ma’s drunken tirades about white supremacy in the classical period hold more weight than contemporary accounts! What are you stupid or something?

The uncut version has Cleopatra being portrayed by Fallon Fox and depicting African's magical powers of flight, energy bolts, weather manipulation and time travel. It had more facts than this trash.

😂😂

Apparently you could have gotten a PhD if you just listened to Grandma

I GOT A PHD IN EBONICS, WE WUS KANGS N SHEET BRUH

This show needs to be banished to the shadow realm 😂

It's in the name "California made" is a recipe for disaster

jojos is more accurate jojos has vampires

california? fucking yuck, no wonder its so awful

Why someone would make this for any reason is beyond me 😢

a good point, well put.

Exactly. Cleopatra VII was incredibly intelligent in her own right, and was a master at negotiation. I'd personally like to see a show about her political pursuits in that vein.

I don’t think this false bs of a documentary wants a universal message for girls in general, their shitty producers and actors made very clear that this insult to intelligence was directed at “melanated sisters” and all that crap

It's lazy tokenism 101: make sure you stress how good that race, gender, sexuality, ethnicity, or religious group is by making them better then anyone else and free from flaws so you can show how more evolved they and -the writers- their views are compared to everyone else, and avoid any possible accusations of being some kind of racist, sexist, or other -ist or -phobe by making that minority character a Mary Sue free from human defects.

As long as they also show the truth about her killing 2 of her siblings, and marrying both her brothers 🤷🏽‍♀️ She's idolized and fetishized as this powerful strategist, seductress and queen but they sanitize her vile history and her families vile history

Augustus was actually a handsome guy, and they made him look like a creep.

I agree! When I first learned his sister had taken in her children I was shocked at that act of kindness in a less than kind time. The Romans did not like Cleopatra so his sister taking them in was a huge deal and a great example of humanity.

@@marniekilbourne608 But he still killed Caesarion because he could become a rival.

​@Pat Daley "Caesarion" was also an adult at that point who came back to Egypt from exile thinking he had a chance to take back the title of Pharaoh. If he just stayed in exile in India, he would have been completely fine. His own ambition doomed him.

I’ll never forgive the Octavian slander in this “documentary”. You have an actually interesting and intelligent historical figure, who by all accounts was a decent person and good ruler. who did what he thought he had to do to achieve his political goals, which he genuinely believed to be in Rome’s best interest. So what do you do? Turn him into a misogynistic, violent caricature of a “roman general” for your wacky propaganda show, because you think that having an intelligent, compelling male character would ruin your female protagonist.

The only people who imagine history are the people who want to rewrite it

Imagining history would be called "alternate history" and it can be pretty popular

You obviously have never done much history, much less tried to write about history. In a docudrama, the dramatic reenactments are imagined of necessity. In a pure documentary, any conclusion you draw from the (sparse) evidence necessarily requires imagination. So what do you imagine Cleopatra looked like?

​@@patdaley9098 Well, for starters, she wasn't black and didn't have an afro. She was likely tanned, had short hair or hair that went down instead of out into an afro for no reason, and been showered with all the finery an Egyptian noble could get their hands at the time. We don't have to imagine much about her appearance, all the information we have on her and her familial history is more than enough to make an educated guess. You do realize we still have people who live in Macedonia who could easily play the part of Cleopatra, alternatively there's this group of people in Egypt called Egyptians who would also be fairly close. Cleopatra was only 2,000 years ago, we have plenty of information on her even without very many surviving portraits.

​@@patdaley9098dude we have sculptures, paintings, and written accounts, she wasn't black get over it already.

Queen of cuckolds

And, just like her husband, she likes to slap the cheeks of other men.

The depictions of Cleopatra as a white woman originated during the Renaissance period, specifically in the 16th century. During this time, European artists and writers often portrayed historical and mythological figures from ancient civilizations according to their own cultural ideals and standards of beauty. Cleopatra, being an Egyptian queen, was subject to these artistic interpretations, resulting in portrayals that did not accurately reflect her likely appearance. It is important to note that Cleopatra was a member of the Ptolemaic dynasty, which was of Macedonian Greek descent, and historians believe that she likely had Greek or Mediterranean features. Additionally, there is evidence to suggest that Cleopatra took measures to present herself as a legitimate Egyptian ruler, including adopting certain aspects of Egyptian culture and dress. However, the Renaissance depictions of Cleopatra as a white woman continued to persist in art and popular culture for centuries, contributing to a widely accepted but historically inaccurate image of her appearance. By the way, there were 7 Cleopatras the 7th being the most popular. Most people just parrot what they hear instead of doing actual research.

​@@horusba2620 There were pale Greeks also. and in almost all times and places pale was associated with beauty and high-status. Even black Americans prefer lighter-skinned mates. I'm not saying that Cleopatra was pale skinned, but to say it necessarily had to be some whitewashing is absurd. Especially since the very idea of "white" is a very recent invention.

@@hideousruin وصف المقريزي لأهل مصر : "أهل مصر يغلب عليهم الدعة والجبن والقنوط والشح وقلة الصبر وسرعة الخوف والحسد والنميمة والكذب والسعي إلى السلطان وذم الناس بالجملة، كما يغلب عليهم الشر والدنية التي تكون من دناءة النفس والطبع .....ومن أجل توليد أرض مصر الجبن والشرور والدنية لم تسكنها الأُسد، حتى كلابها أقل جرأة من كلاب غيرها من الأمصار، وكذلك سائر ما فيها أضعف من نظيره في البلدان الأخرى، ماخلا ما كان منها في طبعه ملايمة لهذا الحال كالحمار والأرنب". "المواعظ والاعتبار بذكر الخطط والآثار". ......... هذا ما كتبه المقريزي في عصره, والجدير بالذكر ان المقريزي شيخ المؤرخين المصريين المعروف باسم تقي الدين المقريزي ولد وتوفي في القاهرة(764 هـ ـ 845 هـ) (1364م - 1442م), أي عاش معاصرا لدولة المماليك البحرية ثم دولة المماليك الشركس (المماليك البرجية).

يا صديقي انت ناسي حاجه تقولها وياريت تعدل تعليقك وتضيف هذه المعلومة لهم اساسا العرب من نسل ام مصريه هاجر ام العرب فزاي العرب من اصل مصري يغزوا مصر؟

@@MCShifo111 والله ياما قولنا للمصريين قبلهم اصلا بس مين يسمع

I am not sure if there was much difference between the Romans and the Arabs that came in, but in the end the Arabs lived around Egypt anyway. So the Egyptians already looked like them already because obviously to me at least neighboring countries do look similar. Greece and Cyprus is not that far away and also Libia is a neighbor country, Israel is sort of connecting to Egypt. In fact quite an amount of sub-Saharan africans went to Egypt while the black slaves during I believe 1500s or 1600s but that is quite an amount of time later that these people came there then the pyramids were built. Maybe there were darker skinned slaves before too but then again we are not talking about the farao, but also people get darker skinned the more they are in the sun. Slaves would be in the sun quite some more than others. Especially if those were working outside or building. I think that some people forget that having darker skin doesn't make you black. When I cycle for 4 weeks in the sun I get darker too. That is just logical. I don't know exactly about the people that came into the country but I just base it now in the neighboring countries on the opposite side of the see or literal neighbors, but if we base "Arabs" it is not really a separate race. North-Africa is seen as caucasian if I search that.

@@-_YouMayFind_- true that I’d just add that Arabs believed to originate from Egyptians through Hager peace be upon her which believed to be the mother of Arabs

looks like i have to deal with the original thieves of Egyptian history. Listen buddy. The Copts didn't like you and they didn't help you conquer Egypt. I would know being Coptic myself. You are not even Egyptian so don't say as an Egyptian. So shut your mouth. You and that stupid laywer that in his lawsuit says the documentary doesn't fit Islamic values. Who gives a fuck about your Islamic values . Egyptians are Christian, actual Egyptians that is . And in that period of time they were neither. You rely on the ignorance of the western audience of these facts to further spread your lies. I guess if you lie about something long enough you finally believe it.

الصمت ليس الحل، الأفروسنيتريك يجب أن يضربوا على وجوههم حتى يستيقظوا، لعنتهم العزى

I'm Native American and recently had certain people trying to convince me that there's no such thing as Native Americans. We are African Americans because they are the true indigenous people of America. I give up trying to argue it's like hitting my head against a brick wall.

@@darlahays2471 oh yes yes yes to that one too. they love to dismiss all native americans & claim they are the true natives... in their world view they are literally everything. we see you too.

When you have no clue, no education and no actual culture to speak of... steal everyone else's.

@@darlahays2471 Holy Shit, didn't even know that one was a thing.

And that makes it worse because it means that they are trying to rewrite history as they know none of the crap they're saying is true and are stupid enough to believe that we will fall for it.

She's a soldier in the war against culture, truth, and history, an useful idiot that pushes the agenda of the regime.

What that means is.... she's an expert at altering history to suit her own needs and ideas

​@@bluesageful Which is what a lot of people are trained to do in Universities, especially in the more social fields like sociology and linguistics. Psychology is a field of mines, can't tlak ablt dah fld uph uhmem jexpejinentation.

The obvious lesson has been ignored by all commentors and commentrices: when hybrids of the Beast of the Field team up with Zevites, nobody cares about truth. Listen to Prem Rawat.

​@@williamgrant1103Quite the opposite I suspect 😂

problem is that they show us that later everyone in norway and england was black too kinda shows us that whites lost or something?

@@Jimoshi1 they literally believe white people were created by a scientist named Yakub because he was evil

@@jamescuttler8047 lmao never thought to see his ig being referenced on yb

Right XD?

Actually "Mediterranean ethnic" doesn't exist. Roman were an European people(ethnically, language...) so yes more closer to Scandinavian than to egyptians

Thanks man. Welcome to the channel!

A lot of the clips are from HBOs “Rome” series, which was great, as far as the portrayal of Roman culture and history, but which also takes quite a few unsupported liberties with Cleopatra, where she is a more portrayed as a bimbo drug addict sex kitten.

Octavian seemed to me to be portrayed as Ralph Fiennes character in Schindlers List. The actor even looked like Ralph Fiennes. Also, the close ups of shackles on the children as they're led into what looks like some kind of truck was egregious. It seems to me that probably the greatest Roman of them all was portrayed straight up as a slave owning nazi officer

...and yes, I agree, I love Octavian/Augustus too

@@mitchamcommonfair9543 Which is even dumber because Cleopatra herself was a slave owner. There's also the fact that one of the main reasons that Cleopatra was able to get Caeser on her side was because Ptolmey had killed Pompey.

That and the fact that Ptolemy was HEAVILY in debt to Rome, and Cleopatra promised to pay back while Ptolemy tried to kill Caesar. I think Adrian Goldsworthy said it best; despite her fame as a seductress and the image of a strong independent woman in a man’s world, Cleopatra was nothing more than one of several Client kings that had to bow to Rome, she was nothing special

Augustus is my favorite historical figure as you can see. I knew this show sucked, but I never knew what they did to him until now. Furious.

And Elon Musk of course.

@@klausroxin4437 For Elon Musk they believe he is alien... People today are crazy....

We wuz kweens and shiet

Well you know everyone in Africa, then also in South Africa is black. So Charlize is black, and so am I! It's as ridiculous as Charlize saying only like 44 people in the world speak Afrikaans.... ek is een van hulle. It's so stupid and insidious. I HATE when they do this.

Actually, she is a pure African, born and raised in Africa , and because that all Africans are black.. she is black also :p

It's all a big false flag on their part. They intentionally mislabel it as such, and then if people point out how wrong it is, they scream "racist!" It's the same "lather, rinse, repeat" tactic of the woke patrol and narcissists to convince themselves that everyone is just like them. It's a Western, particularly North American, attitude to go into a foreign nation and lecture them on what their history is, why they should be offended, or how they are a society of "racists" and "colonizers." Historical fact is anathema to them, and even then, they only see what they want to see. I look at people like this, and it's awful that these are the kind of people that are given a platform to speak for us. They claim to be "diverse, equitable, and inclusive," but then lecture so-called "colonizers" on what they can't wear or cook because "you're not from that culture" and that learning English is "imperialist." In a different way, they're telling you and everyone else to "stick to your own kind." Meanwhile, they prance around doing all the things they accuse everyone else of, including this blatant attempt at cultural appropriation, but since they're "diverse, equitable, and inclusive" and therefore "get it," they think, "oh, but it's okay when we do it." "DEI" no longer stands for "diversity, equity, and inclusion. It stands for "division, exclusion, and intolerance."

I'd say this looks like a discord RP server, but most actually have good mods

Yep. Gladiator wasn't slammed nearly as much as Braveheart, despite being just as historically inaccurate, precisely because, unlike Braveheart, Gladiator never presented itself as a true story.

The Great hasn't stirred up this kind of controversy, even though it's a ridiculously inaccurate portrayal of Catherine the Great. It works because they're very open about the fact that it's a comedy that's loosely based on a historical person and that they aren't trying at all to be realistic.

​@@snowangelnc look at monthy python

I was about to comment that, if you agree with everything in this documentary, it would be Doublethink. They say that her dynasty was from Makedonia and that they practiced incest, and at the same time they race-swap her. That means that either there a adults who are not sentient enough to realize their Doublethink or that nobody was happy with this production (including the producers). There really isn't any other option that I'm aware of.

Liberal Pluralism isn’t authoritarian it’s simply it’s inevitable conclusion

@AtheJbaka. Indeed. That’s why the basic process of history, as folks like Marx pretty much laid it out, is as as such. Liberal Pluralism, or “Democracy/Capitalism” leads to Socialism. Socialism leads to Communism. And Communism leads to the End of History! Cycle complete.

This docutruth was double plus good

We all need to worship Big Grandmother. Big Grandmother Is Watching You.

Netflix and Afrocentricity create a cultural invasion of the future. They say Cleopatra is black. People get angry with her, so they come back and say, sorry, Cleopatra is white, but the families before Cleopatra were of the black race, so we accept this in the future. As an Egyptian, I am very sad about what is happening now because racism and aggression are being practiced against us Because they call the Egyptians now that they are Arab invaders I'd like to give you a little bit of history, you ignoramuses. The Arabs trace their origins to an Egyptian mother named Hajar. Now we say that Egypt is the mother of the Arabs and the mother of the world. So don't come now and call us invaders All Africans know that each country has its own culture, so the ignorant person who has no history claims that the Egyptian civilization belongs to him. An entire people is now being stripped of its identity Is it possible to say that all the peoples of Asia are of Chinese origin? You can say that the Latino is of Mexican race

Not just this show. Woke "experts" period. They sure do love their "bUt tHe ExpeRts sAY"... As if no person with authority has ever been wrong, or been ideologically possessed... Not that i expect leftists to not be naïve, it's par for the course, but still.

The fact they have the nerve to call this barrel of shameless vanity and historical misrepresentation a documentary is unbelievable to me, and I'm on the left politically.

If there is any justice in this world, Debora Heard is denied her doctorate for her participation in this pathetic revisionism.

@@Prich319 The guys who launched the idea of a black Cleopatra were pioneers of Pan-African and Africana Studies of sociology, not history of course. They spent years maybe decades teaching this lie as a fact completely ignoring the rejection of their claims from serious historians. The lie is now too deeply rooted to be removed from public consciousness.

Yeah, but do you have a black grandma? Because if you did, you'd already have a PHD and proof that Julius Caesar was black too. Because her grandma told her "Ain't no white man named Julius! Julius Caesar was black!"

Actually, the scholarly experts are quite real. Look them up. They just don't say what some random internet commentators say they do. The have taught the material, participated in excavations, given lectures, written relevant books, etc. Some people have dreams, sometimes they inspire them to study or do something. Her dreams did not tell the old lady professor what results she should get.

@@patdaley9098my grandmother told me that trump is black. you cant say otherwise. deal with it

​@@syafiqulaiman6950 I certainly can say otherwise. -First, no one in the docudrama thinks Cleopatra was black. The lady does not agree with her old, dead grandma, which you would know had you actually watched it. -Second, actress Adele James skin tone is a lightish brown. She is mixed race, not black. -Donald Trump may have a black heart but his skin not black.

​@@patdaley9098 Dude, just stfu. You've been asserting utter nonsense in every reply you give.

That's what we call a linguistic killshot

Definitely!

"culture vulture" is another term that comes to mind

that must have been fun at family gatherings

Did George RR Martin name them?

With a history that "easy" I am in favor of saying "Yeah we don't know" Goddam the level of confusion this caused my brain 😂

@@rishab0B If you think this is bad, go look at the hapsburg family tree.

@@NinjaBray oh those incestuous bunch of retards with Easter island heads?

We have the same problem in Britain. You rarely see English people on the streets of London these days.

Don't overestimate this. I know it feels like it's permeated everything, but it's actually just the cultural elite, mostly in the USA. People don't actually move in great numbers to sway politics, because most normal people seriously don't give a shit or are against this. People move because of economic interests usually and that's okay. I'm commenting because it can be easy to slip into "great-replacement" rabbit holes and the like, but that's not true, it's a culture war, not a real one after all. I can recommend reading Antonio Gramsci, also an Italian, about "cultural hegemony". Even if you don't agree with him politically, these people know that concept and try to use it. It can explain a lot of what's happening in my opinion

The great replacement is about lowering the general IQ of populations so they're easier to control. The elites will be going full steam ahead with their plans after it was recently revealed how many people lack basic critical thinking ability

@@PrimeNPC Your comment was the funniest thing I read all day. But now I'm unsure whether it was on purpose

@@steffenjensen422 you think "the great replacement" is a "rabbit hole" lol when there's plain to see evidence that excessive immigration is being forced on many counties. Excessice immigration of low IQ populations. You also laugh about the general dumbing down of populations as if that isn't painfully obvious too. How do I know you're fully vaccinated and boosted?

Will Smith is a simp.

I'm looking forward to Will Smith right-handing some little, old Egyptian scholar who doesn't accept the phactual accuracy of JPS's documentary.

Well she also sleep with her sons friend

Her and Will clearly deserve each other.

This ‘documentary’ is atrocious. However Will Smith is a grown man and fully responsible for his own actions.

She was also the world bey-blade champ 5 years running and one hell of a pizza chef and no one is ever brave enough to bring up the time she brought rock n roll to the Martians in 87 on her magic flying skateboard

She also invented Calculus, shortly before Newton came along and stole all the credit. Then she invented the Theory of Relativity all by herself. Unfortunately, the clerk at the patent office she brought it to stole all her work and took all the credit. Also, knowing that the dinosaurs were a major threat to humanity, Cleopatra sent a laser beam from the Great Pyramid directly into a nearby meteor, effectively changing its trajectory so that it would crash into the Yucatan Peninsula. This assured that the dinosaurs would go extinct, which would allow human beings to flourish. This used to be common knowledge, before it got totally whitewashed.

How could you forget that she very nearly perfected time travel when those stupid Romans came along?

Also the first woman to compete in the UFC and win multiple world titles.

Lol good troll

I was waiting for Will Smith's hand to slap the hell outta him for that line...HAHAHAHA!

I’m ashamed to admit I missed that

@@iAmEbolaWoT that 'sIap' was more fake Cleopatra's swordsmanship...

@@bdleo300 I am hazy on the various weapons of the period, and she’s not holding a scimitar, but I could swear both she and her opponent are holding their weapons backwards/upside down. I came out to the comments trying to anyone’s remarks upon that because I don’t know it just looks wrong.

I hope that whenever Jada makes a post online people call her out for her sexual encounters with the very young 14 y/o boy from the kiddie band Kriss Kross not to mention she turned him onto drugs which he died by drugs. Also involved with the boy was Chili from the R&B band TLC. Not to mention Robert De Niro who was involved in underage trafficking in France. The liars at Fact Check you know the sexual deviants claimed he wasn't arrested! True he bought his way out of that trouble.

*It is.*

Agreed

It's partly an attempt to use propaganda to degrade the honorable history of European people as a racial group.

It is potentially worse than destroying artifacts. What they're trying to do is to change history in order to suit their own needs and motivations. History might be distorted and lost for entire generations or more if done on a scale large enough. This is akin to what is done in 1984.

It's worse. It's destruction of the history behind the artifacts, and the very idea of history itself.

It's called historical revisionism. They're in the same league as Holocaust deniers.

Like Disney and the frog movie, they had to rip off a European folk tale, they couldn't promote an African one?

If they wanted a black African character, they should have made an actual documentary about Mansa Musa or Shaka Zulu! Granted, they were men so the people who made this trash would probably get offended at the very IDEA of making a movie about yet another DUDE.

@@flickcentergaming680 I half agree. This project was for African queens, not African kings. However, these are interesting figures in Africa's history, so I say they deserve their own docudrama, which coincidentally helps further the goal of these people

Because the point is to attack white americans

Well why would you even blame a leader on a natural disaster so that you have to mention that "its not his fault" OF COURSE ITS NOT HIS FAULT Its not like Biden is responsible for all the rains in the USA. So when a heavy rain occurs, its "his" fault. Its not like country leaders control the sea level and rains 🤣

Netflix and Afrocentricity create a cultural invasion of the future. They say Cleopatra is black. People get angry with her, so they come back and say, sorry, Cleopatra is white, but the families before Cleopatra were of the black race, so we accept this in the future. As an Egyptian, I am very sad about what is happening now because racism and aggression are being practiced against us Because they call the Egyptians now that they are Arab invaders I'd like to give you a little bit of history, you ignoramuses. The Arabs trace their origins to an Egyptian mother named Hajar. Now we say that Egypt is the mother of the Arabs and the mother of the world. So don't come now and call us invaders All Africans know that each country has its own culture, so the ignorant person who has no history claims that the Egyptian civilization belongs to him. An entire people is now being stripped of its identity Is it possible to say that all the peoples of Asia are of Chinese origin? You can say that the Latino is of Mexican race

And the HBO show was bad enough to start with. A Julius Caesar who says to a priest that he has nothing to do with religion is so ridiculous. I didn't know if I should laugh or cry. Your edit: Well, it WAS part the job of the Pharao to get the Nile flooding. It was not a big deal if it didn't happen properly in a year. But if the Nile didn't provide a good harvest for several years, things did get uncomfortable. Remember, Pharaos were not human being but considered to have a close relationship with the gods. They WERE responsible for a flooding Nile, for a good harvest.

@@wedgeantilles8575 HBO Rome isn't marked as "Documentary" when you view it. On the DVD commentary, the creator states "We had to change some historical fact in order to make an more entertaining story. Other than that we made the setting as close to history as possible, " I just shake my head when "RU-vid Historical scholars" nitpick works that are CLEARLY Historical Fiction. I love researching history, it wasn't school, documentaries or listening to other people spout off what they know, that piqued my interest. It was Kingdom of Heaven, Braveheart, HBO Rome, Gladiator, 47 Ronin, The Last Samurai and 13th Warrior. These works of Historical FICTION, got me interested enough in the periods to go read up on the actual history. I believe the point of Historical Fiction, is to get people (most notably young people) interested in history, so that they to go and research their favorite time periods. sidenote: Nobody cares what Julius Caesar said to a priest.

@@DustinBarlow8P In YT comments HBOs Rome is often described as being so historically correct. Can you have a lot of fun with the show? Sure. Should you watch it? Yeah, why not? However, it is important to keep in mind, that - especially the characters - are fiction and have in many many scenes nothing to do with the original. If you think you know anything about the historical characters because you watched the show, you are mistaken. And as an example - because most people demand "proof" if you put up an unpopular opinion - I chose Caesar, who the show portrait as a "mere" general who had nothing to do with religion. (Which btw was NOT necessary for the show - this could have easily been presented correctly!) I am not sure why you feel offended that I clarified this, but I am sure you have your reasons.

Imagine keeping your family line so vehemently Macedonian for three hundred years only for history revisionists to say that they don’t know who Cleopatra VII’s mother/grandmother, even though they’re all named the same so the 17 Ptolymies don’t get the name of their mother/sister/daughter’s name wrong in bed

Netflix Levels of Bad

Jada levels of bad 💀