Cleric Subclass Tier Ranking in D&D 2024 

I like the new focus on S tier, no longer being just "really good", instead being "potentially broken or problematic at tables". That feels much more helpful for players and the right focus in general for analysis of how the classes and subclasses are balanced.

As others have pointed out, you seem to have missed this part of Preserve Life for Life Domain: "This feature can restore a creature to no more than half its Hit Point maximum."

My favorite life domain memory is when the Monk was getting eaten by a T-Rex and kept going onconscious while the life domain Cleric constantly got them back up.

I think we're overlooking the changes to healing spells for high level life domain clerics that just max out dice. A 3rd level spell slot can easily mean 18 healing per person as a bonus action.

Also if you have a DM that refuses to have his enemies attack you duplicate and they just somehow know witch one is witch and they only swarm you, just switch place with your duplicate as a bonus action.

I really wish the Life domain cleric had a class feature that let them grant temporary HP (besides a Spell) or to Overheal, giving Temp HP (or increasing Max HP) by the amount of excess healing.

For comparison, this is what Monty & Kelly gave 4 years ago for the Cleric Subclass Tier Ranking : - Life Domain : S - Light Domain : A -Trickery Domain : B -War Domain : C

47:43 Thanks for the little poem Kelly! "But if I had to rank them, one through 4, It goes; Trickery, Light, Life, War."

My understanding is 2024 Disciple of Life only applies the turn you cast the spell. Therefore, it will have little effect on Aura of vitality (round 1 only) and none on goodberry.

I'm part of a 4-person party playing Curse of Strahd. Originally, we had a paladin, fighter, druid, and rogue. Healing was being provided primarily by the druid. After having the druid go down, and the paladin out of position, we realized we needed a cleric. By chance, my ability scores as a fighter were high because of good rolls, and I took a 13 in wisdom for a perception boost. When we leveled up from first to second level, I took a level in Life domain (2014 rules). With a wisdom of 13, my spell save DC and spell attack bonus were going to be minimal. I picked Life domain because the spells I picked were buffs, so DC and attack bonus don't matter. My pick of Protection from Evil and Good were clutch because we had two members who were in two different solo fights with ghouls. The fact that the ghouls were fighting with disadvantage meant our party members survived. Not the typical reasons for choosing Life domain, but it's working for us.

6:32 Preserve life can't restore hit points past half a characters hitpoint max correct? Makes this ability much more niche, you would use it when a few party members are really low.

They added "regains additional Hit Points on the turn you cast the spell." so Aura of Vitality only gets one extra bonus to healing

37:21 the feature says the spell ends if you cast it again, so no putting Shield of Faith on multiple party members with this.

Tempest for me aall the way! Thunder and lightning for the wicked there will be smiting!

For War Domains, start as a Human Fighter. Take a background that gets Wizard or Druid Initiate, take the other with your human feat. You now get a Fighting Style, you have Weapon Masteries, a way to use Shillelagh and/or True Strike, Con saves, and Second Wind. Multiclass into Cleric. Take your next 8-10 levels in Cleric. Level 7 gets you a buff to all attacks, level 8 will let you max out Wisdom. 9-10 get you 5th level spells and Divine Intervention. Take 2nd level of Fighter for Action Surge. If you actually play past Level 12, I'd take 3 more levels of Fighter, get a subclass, Feat (GWM), and extra Attack. If you go to Level 20. 6 Levels of Fighter and 14 Levels of Cleric gets you 2 more Feats and Improved Divine Strike. I personally don't like Clerics, but I would 100% play this

Got the book today. I'm Jared, I'm a DM and I'm currently running the Curse of Strahd. The Social Interaction Example on pg 17 absolutely floored me

I've played a 1-20 War cleric using the 2014 rules, and the 2024 updates are amazing and remove the bumpiness. Personally I'd rate it an A. If I had the 2024 rules, Id never run out of War Priest Bonus Action attacks as my Wis modifier was 3+ and that's how long fights last, and I generally prepped with Spiritual weapon and either shield of faith or spirit guardians before combat starts.

Invoke Duplicity mimics your movements. Therefore, if you Invoke Duplicity and give yourself invisibility, you would not be able to "snatch the McGuffin" without detection because your Duplicate would "act out" every step you make. Outside observers would not know exactly where you are, but they would be able to watch you climb a latter, walk across a ledge and jumping down to a lower area (with a good investigation roll).

I tend to think the war domain's problem isn't really any different from the Paladin's, Valor Bard's, or Monk's problem, where you have two stats you need to buff. That's generally true for all gishes. I suspect that the solution is something similar.

I play a Life cleric in a party with a druid and a bard and I'm afraid you're correct, I feel so useless and redundant a lot of the time 🥲 I love my character though so I don't want to change my build but. yeah. people say roles don't matter in 5e but the overlap in niches can leave people feeling excluded.

While the War Domain does have some of those issues, I feel there are two different ways to look at subclass abilities. Some subclasses work towards enhancing a particular playstyle and each new feature builds on that single direction, while others add more and more diversity that you may not be able to use all at once but allow for many different directions and solutions to problems. There are merits to both styles, it's just a matter if you want depth or breadth. I think of it like comparing a hammer to a swiss-army knife. One has a single job it's good at doing, while the other can do many jobs but not simultaneously.

I think there's a really good, straightforward, War Domain built that isn't even super hard. Str 16, Dex 10, Con 14, Int 8, Wis 17, Cha 8 is perfectly straightforward. At that point, you use War God's Blessing for Shield of Faith, not Spiritual Weapon. This also allows Full Plate, which is pretty good. That gets you basically all of the abilities pretty easily most of the time. I think you guys got over-focused on Spiritual Weapon and didn't consider just...not relying on that particular option much at all. Honestly, as a Bonus Action attack you can make pretty regularly, War Priest combined with wanting to use Bonus Actions for other stuff like Healing Word makes Spiritual Weapon a little obsolete in melee if you either go Strength heavy or grab Shillelagh. Now, if you're engaging in ranged combat, that's when the Spiritual Weapon comes out and is quite good.

I'll say that my plan for playing a War Domain Cleric is to pair both Shillelagh and True Strike together. You can do this specifically with either Human or High Elf, I personally favor the Elf-style. Then you get through both Magic Initiate and Species access to 2 very important spells. Mixing these together means we can Action: True Strike, Bonus Action: Shillelagh Turn 1. After that we rely on War Priest for BA attacks with our new Shillelagh and cast True strike every turn. At level 6 it get's a little more interesting as now, not only do we have War Priest, but our main attack can instead be a non-concentration spiritual weapon. That means after turn 1 we always have damaging BA ability and with a combination of both we won't run out. The best part is that we can do all this and still Spiritual Guardians if we're need AOE. Probably not as strong as a Fireballing Light cleric but we've got attacks on par with our Fighters, and we could theoretically multiclass or take Weapon Mastery to add topple/slow to our Shillelagh attacks.

Hello, thanks for the video. It has always been hard for me moving from one edition to another. With all the changes I just gotta embrace it and see what happens. Cleric is my favorite and I've played 8 of them so far. Only 3 of them were in year+ campaigns. For my first Cleric, ill be playing a Hermit Dhampir life Cleric. I think it will be a lot of fun.

Kelly: its just fun to cast fireball... Me: at the barbarian and fighter!

As a *Trickery Cleric,* you can cast spells with a *range of self* through your *illusion.* E.g. take the *Magic action* to let your *illusion* make an attack with *True Strike* or have *Spirit Guardians* emanate from it for the duration of the spell, since *Invoke Duplicity* states that _"You can cast spells _*_as though you were in the illusion's space,"_* which is far more liberal than the wording of e.g. *Find Familiar* _"when you cast a spell with a _*_range of touch,_*_ your familiar can deliver the touch."_

Life is one of my favourites. They are particularly potent with someone else in the party dropping aura of vitality. I was in a 7th level all cleric party fighting an adult black dragon. After the 3rd round of keeping the party alive, (having narrowly survived 2 breathe weapon attacks) the dragon targeted me with all their attacks. Still standing with 1hp next round, I healed back to full between a potion and a spell, looked at the dragon and asked "is that all you got?". Epic.

Important note on True Strike: it will not help War Priest, since that is a weapon attack, and True Strike only allows you to use wisdom for the casting of the spell. Still, Magic Initiate (Druid) can give you both Shillelagh and Magic Stone to allow both a melee and a ranged wisdom-based weapon attack for the price of one feat. Then take Absorb Elements or something for the 1st level spell. In addition, something that might resolve the traffic jam: When you get to War God's Blessing, you have a way to focus War Priest in the few encounters where you don't use Spiritual Weapon, and you don't need to be concerned about running out of uses of either.

One of the big benefits of Confusion is that it's neither a Charm nor Fear based control spell. That lets it be more reliable when you go up against enemies that are immune to one or both of those.

It's important to known that Life domain's Disciple of Life feature has been changed to only apply on the TURN you cast the spell, so goodberry and aura of vitality aren't really useful for that, but Mass healing powers REALLY get the benefit now, as it applies to everyone you're healing.

If you can't spiritual guardians with trickster, then you can't thunderwave, you can't do touch either, as you would have it originate from your real self. The same with guiding bolt and so on and so on. It either lets you have spells 'shootout'/emenate/originate or whatever from the duplicate or you cannot.

My chief reasoning for playing a 2014 War Cleric was access to all martial weapons and heavy armor whereas most cleric subclasses would give you only one or the other. Now that proficiencies aren't tied to subclasses, there seems to be less reason to play a War Cleric when something like Light would give your warrior-priest Warding Flare and Fireball.

Correction on Life Cleric Preserve Life. It can never be used to bring a character up to full. It can only bring a character back up to half HP. But as a Magic Action that does not use a spell slot to heal, it can be followed up with a Bonus Action Mass Healing Word. That combo turns an imminent TPK into a nvm, we’re fine. That’s why the Mass Healing Word is always prepared. So Life Domain can do a Nova Healing round.

At 19:05 Corona of Light for the Light Cleric is so clutch since many of your enemies at that level will have legendary resistances and this could be a good way to burn through them.

"Cooking with gas" never gets old from Monty!

I have tremendous respect for the new 'S' tier being 'This may well be problematic. It may make the game less fun at the table for being too overpowered.' Props to you guys for voicing that so clearly, and indicating that 'A' is the best-written class! Agreed on the Life Domain Cleric being B-tier, though I'd call it a very high B+. Like you always say, it's useful in 'the right campaign'. In this case, I'd say the right campaign is if a GM has been playing D&D since at least the 90's. Rests weren't guaranteed then. If you were in, say, a drow fortress, or an enemy stronghold, the GM wouldn't let you get in a rest. There are times where you might have a few minutes here and there, but not an hour, and definitely not 8. So, this is to me, where the life domain cleric shines: Between-combat healing, if resting isn't guaranteed. Also agreed that WotC kind of trapped themselves with the Life Domain spell list. The subclass logically focuses on healing. And the best healing spells, are cleric spells. There's really no practical way for the Life domain cleric to have spells that weren't on the cleric spell list, because it wouldn't make sense to create a very good healing spell, and then not put it on the cleric class list. Ah well. I'm surprised the War Domain cleric didn't wind up in the 'C' tier rating. All their abilities are really cool, agreed. However, there's two separate, but surprisingly not mutually exclusive, problems, as you said: Their best abilities can't be used together. But also, their best abilities rely on the same pools. Thus, the War Domain Cleric is in danger of running itself out of its cool subclass powers, at which point you'll be left with the base class. That actually makes me think of the Eldritch Knight vs. the Champion. (Putting it here instead of the Fighter video, simply because it's the same train of thought). I was surprised the Champion didn't do a smidge higher, and the Eldritch Knight a smidge lower, for similar reasons. The Eldritch Knight has great powers. But you have to know what you're doing--there's some forgiveness in spell picks, but not total forgiveness. Taking pure blaster spells fits the concept perfectly, but isn't an optimal pick. It's possible to goof yourself up with spell picks, though not necessarily hugely probable. Likewise, they have very limited resources. The Eldritch Knight is one unexpected fight away from just being a baseline fighter. On the flipside, I'm surprised the Champion didn't get a bit more love. I sometimes think their problem is just that it's a kind of boring class. However, I do think its abilities are under-rated. An Eldritch Knight isn't going to be casting spells all the time. A Champion, however, is probably going to be attacking all the time. Every single attack has an increased crit chance. Every round, you have the opportunity to just decide not to fail with a re-roll. The Champion's abilities, augment the base class even more, and you get to bring it to bear every round. I'd argue champion would therefore be a smidge higher, when we take the "Yeah, but the flavor is really dull" factor out. That's interesting, there's a couple different possible ways something can be dragged down the ratings -Competing resources -Adds too little to the class. -Conflicts with base class -Too easy to be reduced to just the base class until a long rest. Keep the videos up! I love watching you guys' takes ever since I discovered your channel in Spring of 2022. Proud owner of both Drakenheim books and soon to be the third as well!

Guided Strike is still great for support with being able to add +10 to another character's attack, pretty much just turning anyone else's attacks into a hit.

I feel like a "B" for life cleric, as a generalist, is appropriate. As you said, your party comp REALLY dictates the power of a life cleric. I find their best results are warding bond to a fighter/monk/paladin in the front line and your heals keeping up with resist, and the self heal you get keeps you in the fight for a lot longer as well.

Cure Wounds (etc.) can be cast at higher levels for greater effect; thereby increasing the amount of the bonus heal.

One subtle buff for the light domain is that daylight now creates sunlight, so if you're a light cleric and you are attacked by a horde of vampires, you just instantly win

I believe that the Life Domain Cleric is something of a throwback to earlier days when healing felt more like a requirement. Now, we have so many choices to avoid damage, even within the Cleric class. A Twilight Cleric, with a party of 5, can generate more Temp HP than a Life Cleric can heal at the same level. Then there's increasing AC so damage just isn't taken.

So I have a theory. Several of the subclasses in the 2024 phb have a focus on the “bloodied” condition. I think that Wizards whats to make this an important part of that game. I have a feeling that when the MM comes out, we are going to see a lot of monsters that have abilities that will trigger when PCs are Bloodied. So it may actually be helpful to have a healer keeping everyone above half through the fight.

My first character was a War domain cleric. I remember playing the class as thinking, “If this class got extra attack, I think it'd perfectly balance the bonus action problem” Still think that. Even with 2024 rules.

The thing for me with the Life Domain is that their spell list has a lot of things I would want to have prepared anyway, which makes their soell list a bit better than it's given credit for.

War Priest: you can make a weapon attack as a bonus action so long as you have more cleric levels than other classes That prevents a 3 level dip for a powerful feature which is probably what they are balancing for

Pages 75 and 76 in PHB24 describe the Trickery Domain Cleric. Invoke duplicity is described as mimicking your expressions and gestures. It does not say the duplicate does every motion or movement your character does. Think of Loki's duplicates - they all could be expressing and moving their bodies in different ways, but Loki's personality is shown in each clone. You could therefore hide and have the enemy think you are the duplicate as you command your duplicate to run around and you cast spells through the duplicate. Regarding casting spells through the duplicate - the PHB24 says you can cast spells as if you were in the duplicate's space but you use your own senses to cast them. With that wording, I feel spirit guardians would work with the duplicate. Spirit Guardians has a range of self with a 15ft emanation. So casting SG as if YOU were in the duplicate's space seems possible with rules as written. This would make the Trickery Domain S Tier IMO.

War Domain goes extremely hard if you go Human and pick up both MI: Wizard and MI: Druid. Getting Shillaleigh, Thorn Whip, Shield, and True Strike makes a War Cleric immediately viable from level 1, you can do your ability scores exactly the same as you would for a spellcasting cleric (14 dex). IMO it's an easy A+ with that setup. You could even start Fighter 1 for weapon masteries and Dueling on your club/quarterstaff.

I think giving the war domain the true strike cantrip instead of the bonusaction attack would have been good. You can attack with wisdom as an action, give temp hp with the lvl 7 feature on a hit and attack with spiritual weapon as a bonusaction.

Damn, I didn't realize how limited war domain was because I didn't notice the overlapping action/resource requirements.

Regarding Disciple of Life: if you upcast a spell, it counts as a spell of that level for all purposes including this feature. Eg. If you cast a 3rd level “cure wounds” it won’t heal +3Hp, it will heal +5. Regarding War Priest: I think a balanced way of keeping the spirit of the 2014 feature intact would be to grant an additional attack as part of the attack action wis uses per rest. And to avoid broken combos, add a conditional: “This stacks with additional attacks from the extra attack feature, but does not stack with additional attacks from spells or other features such as by attacking with a nick weapon”

One of the things you missed that you need a 15 strength to even take advantage of the heavy armor proficiency. That splits your stats.

I keep feeling like Joe should stick his head in the frame when you were talking about the trickery cleric to say, “You talking ‘bout me?”

Ive always loved the battle mage, and ive been torn about Eldritch knights, paladins/sorcadins, and clerics. But looking at light domain, i think that could be fun. You get those fire spells, warding flare can be great when youre up in the front too, you miss out on the bonus action attack but you may be using your bonus action for other acts. And though yall werent looking at multi classing, thinking about getting maybe 6 fighter and 14 Cleric as a base idea for that extra attack, extra ASI from fighter 6, and then primarily cleric could be fun? Im definitely excited to see more about 2024 D&D. Edit: Haha right after I talk about the fighter multi yall talk about it too with fighter, but with war domain. It would be a lot of fun with multi, though Im still thinking about light.

I would value seeing rankings include how your subclass enables your class abilities. The video mentions how Life Cleric domain spells are all from Cleric spell list; what can a Life Cleric do wielding a larger set of cleric spells that other clerics can not? Light Cleric domain spells are on Wizard spell list; which cleric spells must a Light Cleric take?

I think the buff to the cure wounds really improve life domain. If life domain was decent in 2014, he is really good in 2024 now when his iconic spell almost doubled its healing.

The biggest war cleric buff is that at level 6 you can now cast spirit gaurdians and spiritual weapon on the same turn with no set up round

for war domain cleric I'd be interested to see how balanced it'd be to give a slightly weakened version of level 6 feature at level 3 as a non-channel divinity feature (maybe total casting of them limited to wis mod per long rest? it could be workshopped) then the bladesinger style extra attack at level 6

Playing a Light Domain Cleric now. I took it for fireball, which I finally got to cast last session, and I promptly rolled 5 ones. I've done more damage with basically every other spell I've ever cast (except spiritual weapon. that always misses for me).

i always thought itd be cool if life domain gave thp when doing some of their healing spells as well. or had an ability to use healing spells as a reaction. something very unique for healing that would set it apart from healing in general

I'm playing a Life Domain Cleric in a Vecna: Eve of Ruin campaign with a VERY melee focused party and I'm glad to say that he's done his job of keeping the party on their feet- and saved their lives- on multiple occasions 😄

On the Trickery cleric and casting spells using the illusion as your point of origin, contagion got a buff. I really want to use this...

For War Cleric, you can’t have multiple instances of spiritual weapon or shield of faith active at once (the same thing), the feature explicitly says u can’t have multiple instances active

Preserve life is no bueno, thanks to this line: This feature can restore a creature to no more than half its Hit Point maximum So, wait until your group is bloodied, invoke this ability, and everyone is still bloodied

Looking at War Domain, I'm getting the feeling it's built to accomodate either melee or spell casting. Not expecting the player to use all of the spells and abilities, but just the ones that work for their build.

I think the War Priest should be looked at a little bit differently. Yes you have multiple features fighting for your bonus action. I prefer to look at the features of getting mileage out of them. in a combat heavy campaign maybe you don't want to blow through all your uses of channel divinity allowing you to use your bonus action attack instead.

My favorite subclass currently is the Death Cleric. The changes to Chill Touch were a significant buff to it. No longer does it have to rely on Inflict Wounds to use its features! And by the way; if you want Extra Attack on a War Cleric, best take 5 levels in Ranger as soon as possible. It lets you pick up a a few nice attack spells that run on Wisdom along the way. With Paladin, you would need bump up Charisma, and Fighter would add nothing to your spellcasting unless you pick Eldritch Knight, which is Intelligence-based. Only the Ranger has both martial and casting synergy with the Cleric.

I think if you have a lot of summon spells prepared with your Life cleric, the player can hold itself pretty good if he keep healing the creature.

I’m going to be starting a new campaign with a War Domain Cleric, and at the very least it seems like a great class. Origin Feat Magic Initiate for True Strike The Blessing of the War Domain doesn’t seem as clunky remembering that you do have plenty of different uses for your bonus action. The only issue is the reliance on Spiritual Weapon without concentration, which is a great ability, but honestly unless an encounter has a lot of low hp, or a few high hp creatures, are you really using it every battle? Another fun fact for High End play, you can take the Epic Boon of Combat Prowess and just never miss again… or at least very rarely when paired with True Strikes single attack, and only the occasional Blessing of the War God strike

Love how these Tier Rankings are showing just how balanced things have become with the subclasses. Love it or hate it, 5.24e has seemingly made play more fair and balanced no matter what you want to play. ~_~

To talk through your duplicate you could pick up Minor Illusion and cast it through it, then use the sound option.

I wonder what you guys think of the interaction of grave cleric giving spare the dying a range of 30 feet, would that range double at level 5 or only would the base 15 feet double? For me my second class I played was light cleric and loved it.

My take on War Domain is that you need to be okay with blowing through your additional strikes in one combat encounter. Get that extra burst of damage out the way, and when you're done mauling, that's when you rely on spiritual weapon to pick up the slack a little if combat's still going or if you have another encounter before a rest. It's not elegant or intuitive - I think it could've been designed better - but it's not too bad in the end, I don't think. Real question for me is this: does War Domain bring anything to the holy warrior fantasy that the paladin doesn't? I'm not so sure about that aspect. The big thing I can think of is that it's fully compatible with the longbow, but besides that, it's just a more spellcastery paladin. Which is silly because you can't cast spells in combat much when you're using your action and bonus action on attacks. The spells end up feeling like an afterthought when they're the biggest distinguishing factor between Clerics and Paladins. I've played War Domain, and I don't think it's a redundant subclass or anything, but it's pretty niche. I'd probably give it a C overall.

find familiar can die, the scribes book can die. the fact that the duplicate can't be killed is so good. It can go right into the heart of enemies with no risk

In the process of setting up a new campaign using 2024 PHB as base rules for character creation and spells. Really honestly not sure which way to go with my character. Thought initially crit fishing Half Orc Beastmaster with Piercer… but the removal of the ignoring of difficult Terrain and the orc not getting the extra crit die… Probably going with something different. Looking at Arcane Trickster Rogue, Trickery Cleric, Draconic Sorcerer or Illusionist Wizard

Admittedly it could be because of my partner’s campaigns being a Homebrew one, and various scenarios just work but my Grave Domain cleric always feels invaluable as a healer or as a regular caster. Plus it’s just fun to play a gothic Nun, with mine being Raven Queen aligned and profoundly devout to her goddess, since this Raven Queen is the goddess of peaceful death, healing and destroying undead. The Shadowfell is entirely hers. As are the Shadar Kai.

Potential (easy-ish) Homebrew fix for the War Domain: Swap War God's Blessing and War Priest. Guided Strike now lets you use WIS for attack/damage rolls. War Priest now gives two attacks a la Bladesinger.

I think War Domain can avoid a traffic jam with shillelagh though magic initiate. Combat 1, you can cast your spirit guardians and shillelagh on the same turn so you don’t feel like your wasting a turn setting up. On subsequent rounds, blow through all your war priest uses. You won’t need them again Combat 2: you can burn a use of channel divinity for spiritual weapon and since you’re not using a spell slot, cast spirit guardians again. After that, take a short rest. If your dm punishes you for taking short rests after every 2 or 3 combats, they’re a dick. With this, you still are making a bonus action attack every round of combat, save the first round of your first combat, in which you still are casting your spirit guardians so it’s not even going to feel like like you’re wasting your turn. I understand the desire to do everything at once but I’ve played as war priests in 5e which was even more restrictive due to bonus action casting and I still rarely ran into any problems. A +10 to one attack isn’t that great anyways with the removal of the -5/+10 feats. I don’t necessarily disagree with your ranking. The spells are pretty solid though there’s not much on there to get me super excited until 9th level. It might still land in B territory but it’s a cut above life domain. I might even slot it into A-.

Personally I can't wait to get to play the new trickery cleric, the amount of shenannigans you can get to with invove duplicity and all those domain spells is on the next level. Only thing I wish is that you would be able to use the duplicates senses and speak through it, but I guess those are both solvable issues. Minor Illusion lets you speak through it, and you can just stay nearby invisible to cover the senses.

war domain multiclassed with oath of vengeance would be fun. Would be fun to be able to cast shield of faith and haste on yourself and all in one turn. That is a +4 for AC then you could probably grab defensive dueler for an even further buff on AC. Would take a while in levels to get both online, but would be pretty crazy.

Classes / subclasses like these makes me wish there was a feat that gave an extra attack if you didn't already have one.

Don’t worry Kelly, use Thaumaturgy while Invoke Duplicity to fill the whole space with your Trickery taunts!

I am really hoping that the Forge and Grave domains are in the next Xanathars equivalent book and get some nice QOL upgrades like Light and Trickery got. Twilight and Peace domains probably don't even need any upgrades tbh.

Well done boys. Best vid description yet. Love the layout description and design

I haven’t played a cleric in a minute but thanks to the 2024 rules I remember why I love them

I know this was just a look specifically at ranking the 2024 PHB cleric subclasses, but I would have liked to have seen which divine order option would have been the better choice for each subclass in terms of synergy. Like I would think Thaumaturge would probably be better with Life, but Protector would obviously work better with War. But I may be wrong, so that's why I was curious of your opinions on this issue.

I like that Trickery offers many options for creative play, but all I can think about is whether I want to follow the Sacred Flame or the Fallen Fire with the Light Domain (throwing a fireball on a bunch of paladins would be a funny reference).

For War Domain, a good way to go is to grab Great Weapon Master. It will give you additional opportunities to get BA attacks. That should be enough to let you get BA attacks on most turns.

Light and Tempest have always been my favorites, but I think the one I'm most excited to see updated for 2024 is the Knowledge Domain!

I love the new war domain for the level 6 feature alone. I think it's potentially incredibly powerful and carries this subclass. It's just a shame that war priest wasnt improved

issue with wording flair is also in online play. you don't know when an attack comes most of the time. or if a DM holding back, or who his aiming at. that's why i never liked before the roll reaction stuff. most of those should stay at after it's declared imo.

For the level 6 War Domain subclass feature "War God's Blessing", I think they should have change : _You can expend a use of your Channel Divinity to cast Shield of Faith or Spiritual Weapon rather than expending a spell slot. Without requiring Concentration, for up to 1 minute._ ↓ _You can cast Shield of Faith or Spiritual Weapon without requiring Concentration._ That I would allow on my table if someone really wants to play a pure War Domain Cleric.

Kelly rocking the Yaniir shirt! ❤️ Great vid!

I think you are sleeping on blessed healer - not really sure what the exact mechanic of the ability is, but back in the days (3.0-3.5) our clerics used warding bond on most of the party to soak their damage. Then loading the healsmostly on themselves. This makes shielding only a single member with warding bond (which iirc, u cant do more currently) have more value by proxy. A nice chain of interaction.

Life cleric is critical in my current campaign. Every fight we’ve had since level 4 has been near TPK

I know this isn't phb 2024., however this is the perfect excuse to talk about my favorite one. Order cleric, it's first level feature to give allies reaction attacks and it's 6th level feature to give BA casting of enchantments is incredible. Only thing I don't like is the channel divinity involving the charmed condition, and the 17th level feature to basically just ......deal a extra 2d8 psychic damage. Now Multiclassing it goes hard, did it with Eldritch knight 13 and cleric 7 and the economy feels efficient. Order cleric is by far my favorite and I argue one of the best

My dm always allows thaumaturgy to let me throw my voice because of the wording of creating a sound at a location which makes trickery cleric a lot more interesting

awesome video! it enlightened me to a possible fix to the war domain. If i would DM a trable with a war domain cleric, i think i would swap the lv 3 and 6 features and then give it a second attak at lv 6 instead of the bomus action. Actually, i think i would strip his gided strike and give one weapon mastery to the poor dude.... i don`t know if this woud be balanced tho.

the main problem with war cleric is they're thinking you're supposed to change your weapon attack by your spiritual weapon attack, but then they're makin a whole feature useless, what make me think: why didn't just give extra attack to him in level 6 and make the level 6 CD being a feature limited wis/per day in level 3 to make both features useful?

I'm new in D&D and I love these explanations of the dungeon dudes ❤ in fact, I have a lot of hype now

A gnome trickery cleric is on my list to try in the 2024 rules. Just because it just feels right.