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Almost five years after her escape from the Cleveland home of Ariel Castro, who held her and two others captive for over a decade, Michelle Knight (now known as Lily Rose Lee) joins Megyn Kelly TODAY to talk about her ordeal and her new memoir, “Life After Darkness.” She talks about her recent marriage and her prospects for having a child.
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Cleveland Kidnapping Survivor Michelle Knight Talks About New Life, Marriage | Megyn Kelly TODAY

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@modjadjimatatanya 6 лет назад

i hope her son knows his mom didn't abandon him

@christinerizzo9295 5 лет назад

Modjadji Matatanya her son was taken away from her by CPS before she was abducted. He was placed in foster care because she was deemed unfit. I’ll try and send some links.

@modjadjimatatanya 5 лет назад

@@christinerizzo9295 oh. whoa. i didn't know that.

@minxymoo2325 5 лет назад

Well she didn't abandon him. He got taken away from her by CPS before she was even kidnapped.

@blairwaldorf-bass8180 5 лет назад

Modjadji Matatanya he does, his adoptive parents better have told him 😒

@natmont2211 5 лет назад

Probably a good thing the baby did get taken by cps just due to the fact the baby could of been taken by castro

@heighton7206 5 лет назад

I always felt so sorry for her bc lots of people ignored the fact that she went through all of that along with Gina and Amanda. The media payed more attention to the other girls. I think Michelle went through the most physical, mental, verbal and emotional abuse. He was sooooo cruel to her

@ladylokiwifeodindottir7095 5 лет назад

I completely agree that Lily should have had more coverage but I believe the reason. Why they focused on the two other girls (and I'm not saying it right) is because they were teens when they were taken. Yes Lily was there longer but the two teen were only children still and the abuse may have a stronger impact from the abuse. Plus it was Amanda who saved the three of them. They probably see that as her being the "Stronger" one. When in reality she saw an opportunity save themselves and seized it. A woman who was abducted and abused for ten years who wouldn't let him break her spirit. Or Young woman missing for 10+ years and was a teenager when she was taken saved herself and two other women plus her daughter from their kidnapper. Which sounds better? While I completely agree Lily should have had more coverage then what she did get. I believe they felt Amanda being the one to free them and had been a teen when she was abducted 10+years ago sounds better to them. But this is just imo

@nzzs203 5 лет назад

@@ladylokiwifeodindottir7095 she didn't want the attention at first. She told them she'll talk when she's ready. Then she saw the others getting the spotlight then decided she was ready. Plus the other was the one that got them out AND had the child by him.

@Baffled-f9d 5 лет назад

Amanda was the one who got them out of there.

@cortneyhall9068 5 лет назад

Me too and people talk about her like the other two are better then her makes me so mad

@Ilene-pz8fp 5 лет назад

I am happy for all three and I wish them only happiness. With the age difference, it is not surprising that Amanda and Gina remain close. It also sounds as though their abuser (while he pitted them against one another) kept Michelle away from the other two. In addition, there may be some resentment about Amanda being allowed to have her baby and Michelle was never graced same. That would have to cause additional trauma to Michelle. Again, I am happy to see that they are moving on with their lives and I hope they continue to grow as the incredible survivors that they are now known to be.

@arianaespinoza5465 4 года назад

“You can’t be broken twice.” Oh my lord, what a wonderful woman.

@DannyBoy777777 3 года назад

@ Ariana Espinoza Tell that to the Germans.

@yesyjam1 2 года назад

That’s devastating

@differentwavelength6553 2 года назад

Michelle is truly an inspirational and amazing human being. What an amazing woman. All 3 of his victims were so much stronger than he could ever be.

@seulyenarellano6596 5 лет назад

the two other girls has a family, she didn't... i'm crying

@effeffy9117 4 года назад

Andrew Ward cuz she was abused in her childhood and her mom boyfriend hurt her son

@happyhorse1028 4 года назад

Julliene Candava was there any mention of her son’s dad?

@davidkosiba624 4 года назад

But she got married which is awesome

@vernamorales2064 4 года назад

@Andrew Ward She had a 💔 childhood

@deannamccrimmon7805 4 года назад

Happy Horse the dad was one of her classmates and didn’t want anything to do with their son I think. She talks about him in her book.

@GraceanneParks 6 лет назад

Literally one of the strongest people ever. Wow

@raquelhernandez1209 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger tattoos are considered art depending on how you do them. tattoos are bueatifull and not just white people get them, im hispanic and all of my family except My mom has tattoos and same thing for my husbands family even his mom is tatted se are all hispanic. Its not a white thing its a art thing a people thing.

@kristinawooten5969 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger never judge someone. You do not know the reason behind those Tattoo's. I'm not trying to be rude! I am a young mother of 3 boy's and I have tattoos. She is a survivor. Yes! But she could be using that as a coping mechanism, or just becoming who she is and telling her story through those tattoos as well. So many reasons as to why people get tattoos and it isn't a race thing. Quite a shame to use the "white people" card amd to say that period, the way this world is n considering how far that America has become with races! This woman is a Walking Miracle, with great Strength. Never judge until you KNOW the full and true story behind someone else's choices, decisions, and life.

@Moonlava722 6 лет назад

I hope her son knows who she is. She deserves that. He deserves to know her. It's not her fault he was taking.

@Iceis_Phoenix 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger Your ignorance is vomit inducing. Who brought you up?

@Iceis_Phoenix 6 лет назад

GraceanneParks she lived for her son...too bad she can't even see him 😔

@Iamsoul00 3 года назад

Lily is a remarkable human being. She’s an icon of strength.

@reallyhappenings5597 3 года назад

Sorry but I can't stand when people misuse words like "icon." Look it up. She's a remarkably resilient and unusual woman, but an icon is something recognized universally throughout time as symbolic.

@ISEEORBS 3 года назад

@@reallyhappenings5597 That , and I don't even believe this lady for some reason Lol.

@janetDT1904 2 года назад

Agreed. Lily is absolutely beautiful inside and out xx

@user-ri3oz1hi4k 2 года назад

@@reallyhappenings5597 Yeah I’d say she counts as that.

@MyBelovedGhostAndMe 2 года назад

@@ISEEORBS wtf she went through ten years of abuse just for you to say you don't believe her? Your belief doesn't matter she went through all that and she is so brave as she got through it and survived. Your a horrible person for saying you don't believe her

@diepotato4534 5 лет назад

*You can’t be broken twice* I’ve lived by this every since I heard it. She is strength🌈🦋

@daniellemunaycush 5 лет назад

Yes. Blew me back when she explained that. 💜

@leanne3767 5 лет назад

She had a great deal in her in her reserves.

@1catmac 5 лет назад

Danielle Cody So much wisdom.

@mattwatkins20 4 года назад

Uh, yeah you can.

@lorimiller4301 4 года назад

@@mattwatkins20 I agree with you Matt. I've been broken repeatedly in many different ways.

@alexispestorio1600 6 лет назад

Lily Rose Lee is such a gorgeous name. Fits her so well.

@ambermullenax9813 6 лет назад

I love how it represents her life now and how it has so much meaning behind it!

@cupheadplays7139 5 лет назад

It really does fit her 💕

@tamlynn786 5 лет назад

I love how she doesn't let the past define her and how she gave herself a new name. She's an inspiration.

@zuliettearencibia6615 5 лет назад

agree!

@nicholasbogosian5420 4 года назад

Her ability to distance herself from her son, the thing which gave her strength to survive is beautiful. I sense that there will be more to this story...the son has a heroic birth mother just waiting to be discovered.

@user-ri3oz1hi4k 2 года назад

Exactly. And she shouldn’t have to.

@ladybimshire6808 Месяц назад

Those parents seem incredibly selfish. At least let her meet him and withhold who she really is until he is old enough to process the truth. He’s going to hate them.

@CeliMe007 5 лет назад

I'm so glad she gained some weight! Before any of you accuse me of bodyshaming, think about it. She was the main target to get bullied and starved by that monster. I'm happy she's free and eating what she wants when she wants!

@marieschrader9150 5 лет назад

💕

@nechelewatts9127 5 лет назад

Amenn

@whyis6afraidof740 5 лет назад

Wells, now she's overweight. That's not good either, she needs to built a healthy relationship with food, which of course will be very hard after what happened to her. It's pretty common I think that people gain a lot of weight after traumatic events, something similar happened to Natasha kampusch for example, another girl who was kidnapped, had to starve for years and then became overweight. I really hope she manages to cope with it, so that she can live a long and healthy life without any medical problems. Saying you are glad that someone is overweight is in fact pretty ignorant, it's something very dangerous and painful. I guess you just meant that you're happy she has normal access to food now, which I agree with, but her weight is nothing to be happy about. It's rather worrying.

@gowonsbutterfly8725 5 лет назад

Light Bringer All the victims gained a lot of weight. And most likely it’s because he destroyed their metabolisms by starving them as punishment. When your body is starved it goes into a survival mode and stores more fat when you eat because it doesn’t know when you’ll receive another meal. And it’s harder to correct your metabolism and it becomes harder for them to lose weight or burn fat.

@whyis6afraidof740 5 лет назад

@@gowonsbutterfly8725 oh, I haven't thaught of that, but it makes sense I guess. And it makes it even sadder imo, so being happy about it still seems very weird to me. I hope it doesn't affect them too much and that they deal with it as well as possible. Anyways, thanks for the info :)

@SX-sv6vo 2 года назад

She was the most rebellious and defiant of the three. Thus, she was abused more. "You can't be broken twice." The human spirit is a miracle and gift. ❤ I wish for her continued peaceful life, happiness, and joy.

@matthardy8821 6 лет назад

I'm full big grown tattooed man and I want to cry. She is the best.

@matthardy8821 6 лет назад

Thanks Heidi, you sound like a beautiful woman also.

@matthardy8821 6 лет назад

Heidi Willard being Australian no not really, not many of us are here. I just share the same name as a famous wrestler that's all.

@ReelnRockn 6 лет назад

What's with having to include that you are a tattooed man? I mean, does having tattoos make you more of a man than others? Just strange that you include it as if tattooed men don't usually cry.

@JasonX00 6 лет назад

She truly is an inspiration

@kaspertrump7797 6 лет назад

ReelnRockn I was thinking the same thing

@tyrellallen7756 5 лет назад

Her mental muscles are bigger than any bodybuilders physical muscles

@josephinetyree1476 4 года назад

WELL PUT!!!!!!! : )

@jeffalbillar7625 4 года назад

By far.

@gimygaming8655 4 года назад

Definitely

@deborahdodge818 3 года назад

That’s a very strong and true statement.

@wanda4573 3 года назад

Amen on that comment. I hope she meets her son.

@kkkkatieh3367 4 года назад

after everything that monster did to this lady, she wins, she prevails. What a sweetiepie. Be happy always Lily!

@Garrett94 4 года назад

They let child predators off so easy every time. Most of them don’t even get jail time for things like this. It’s so sickening. He should have got the death penalty

@SunayanaSB1998 4 года назад

@@Garrett94 that guy got life imprisonment and you know what within one month of imprisonment he couldn't bear with the circumstances he was in and committed suicide. The tables turned after a decade

@LeeDee5 5 лет назад

I really hope her and Miguel are blessed with a child of their own.

@Southerngirl0828 5 лет назад

Me too!

@julie1559 4 года назад

She sadly can’t have children anymore due to the severe abuse she suffered in the house, but I really hope they find another way to have a child!

@burymebelowawillowtree9243 4 года назад

Maybe they could adopt.

@crownjewel832 4 года назад

Sadly I think that psychopath destroyed her reproductive system

@tracybrown1488 4 года назад

If she ask me I would Carry the baby 4 her and her husband has she said she can not carry and I would do it for nothing in return

@mrs.laynellbailey8391 4 года назад

Who else is watching this in 2020? Just needed a little faith & almighty Strength 🙌🏾

@nicolai6161 4 года назад

Mrs.Laynell Bailey me.. again I love her

@mrs.laynellbailey8391 4 года назад

@@nicolai6161 she so sweet. I love her spirit the Devil thought he had her but that was a LIE‼🙌🏾 GOD GOT HER. SHE IS A ANGEL ON EARTH.

@lancelaneles 4 года назад

Me!

@kartell6650 4 года назад

Mrs.Laynell Bailey be strong

@mrs.laynellbailey8391 4 года назад

@@kartell6650 Thank you 🙌🏾💪🏾‼

@Hannah-gx4vq 3 года назад

Lily seemed very proud of herself, which is actually wonderful to see. She recognises that she is strong and capable of overcoming so much. It's so inspiring.

@Steph-lf3zq 6 лет назад

I really hope her son reaches out and she has a kid. She deserves the world Edit: wow guys thanks for all the likes and I’m glad you guys support Michelle/ Lily

@oliviamae3281 6 лет назад

Steph&Savana wow, yes, because he was literally taken from her. So sad. 😢

@rhino1876 6 лет назад

Olivia Mae Well sort of. She lost him previously to foster care because she was out searching for a job and when she came home her mom's boyfriend tried to grab at her sexually and her son got scared and the man hurt her son's knee. So she lost him before being kidnapped that's how Ariel lured her into his truck by saying he would take her to her meeting.

@oliviamae3281 6 лет назад

Rhino L yeah, she didn't lose him by her neglect of him though. That's what I meant.

@rhino1876 6 лет назад

Olivia Mae oh no! She loved him more than anything. Funnily enough i was reading her first book (for the third time) on my plane yesterday. I cry the hardest when she loses her son to foster care and to her forced abortions.

@Steph-lf3zq 6 лет назад

Kay DeFreese I know but when she was talking about a miracle that is what I meant sorry it was unclear🙃

@prettyflyforawhitegirl 6 лет назад

Wow.. only 5 years.. It feels like so long ago, She's incredible

@vm51photo 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger Getting a tattoo is a very common display of power and defiance for trauma survivors. And the beauty is that she that she doesn’t care what any of us think, anyway!

@kaistockman6443 6 лет назад

Well she’s happy. After everything she went through if tattoos make her happy then we should be happy for her. 😀

@rogerrife305 6 лет назад

Prettyflyforawhitegirl oo

@michaelstrahan2.0 6 лет назад

@Beverly Okay, Miss Goldenrod Cr NE.. here's some advice: If you don't like tattoos, then don't get one. Problem solved. #GirlBye

@rhino1876 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger the pain you experience from the needle going in your skin is extremely therapeutic. My entire left arm are going to be bracelets around my arm that represents positive and negative things that made me grow into my womanhood (I have 3/19 bands done). Everytime I get a tattoo that symbolizes a tough time in my life it is literal therapy for me. The best way to explain it is in that pain during the tattoo I put the same pain I felt in that time in my life. I can then put that pain away and have a reminder of how stronger it made me. To each their own I don't need anyone but myself to find it beautiful and freeing in fact my grandfather responds the way you do.

@leekennedy2845 4 года назад

"So you changed your name, Michelle"

@Pawknee123 4 года назад

Lee kennedy 😄😄 I caught that too.

@happyhorse1028 4 года назад

Lee kennedy hilarious

@gimygaming8655 4 года назад

Right?!

@kdm8540 4 года назад

Hahahaha

@leekennedy2845 3 года назад

@Chhandak here lol she literally said that she changed it because hearing her old name was painful for her. People change their names fpr a lot of reasons and it's almost always disrespectful to uae someone's old name/dead name

@kathtsmall6405 6 лет назад

She’s a true hero and survivor.

@NettoDiakozu 5 лет назад

999 likes? Not on my watch

@undyingsoul3949 5 лет назад

How is she a hero? Because she survived those ten years in captivity?

@nzzs203 5 лет назад

@@undyingsoul3949 was wondering too...

@cortneyhall9068 5 лет назад

Yes she is

@metallicphoenix9615 4 года назад

She’s the founder of Lily’s Ray of Hope, look that up on Facebook. That’s when the Hero side of her comes in after the Survivor Side.

@JalanRina 6 лет назад

Her face just glowing and brigt when megan start talking about her husband. I cried when she said there is a light after dark. Good luck girl!

@jmc19669 4 года назад

Lily Rose Lee, you are amazing. Such a sweet person.

@lafaceelitah9872 6 лет назад

This woman is a true warrior.

@tammi67able 6 лет назад

La Faceelitah yes she is

@globetrotting2628 5 лет назад

Adoptive parents are wrong on this. They were only able to adopt due to bio mom being kidnapped and held captive for 13 years. Why would they be so heartless to this mother?

@claudialynn4272 4 года назад

Sadly Lilly’s son was taken by cps before she was abducted. CPS said she was unfit because her family said she had mental disorders. She was abducted after having an argument with her mother about her son. Which is why it was thought that she just ran away

@janeadelaidelennox7193 4 года назад

I think (and I felt the way you did for a second at first) the parents know she’s traumatized and they want to make sure that she doesn’t inflict any harm on their son. They don’t know her, after all. And they want to make sure their son, and her son, doesn’t suffer as a result of all this. I’m a parent. Their primary duty is to their child. And this IS their child, even though he’s also her child. Adoptive parents are every bit as much parents as birth parents are. They’re cautious and they must be very conflicted. This must be hard for them too, after thinking mom was dead in absentia for so long.

@jimparsons4312 4 года назад

@globetrotting. I think she’s just had people ruthlessly judge/ hurt her the entirety of her life. Around every turn this poor woman gets hurt. She has Also even been triangulated by the other two gals who were in the house with her as they will not speak to her. I think because she is SUCH a survivor her tenacity is misread and she is misunderstood... my heart breaks for this angel. 😥

@SindyJ37 4 года назад

@@jimparsons4312 I wasn't aware that the other two girls no longer communicate with Lily Rose. So sad...but she seems super happy with Miguel

@Rollimggiant 4 года назад

Her 2yr old son was in CPS custody BEFORE SHE EVER WAS KIDNAPPED. js. He was blessed to be adopted by those people.

@jakobadora8953 4 года назад

Moral of the story: Don’t go back to trash family, there will be people whole love you for you. I love this woman and her story. 🤧😭

@kellyrodda560 3 года назад

Yes absolutely

@tinkerbellsfairydust165 6 лет назад

i pray she will have a baby, to add more joy in her life.

@fatimazahraelloumi6213 5 лет назад

Carol Jones i read her book. She unfortunately can’t have a baby bcz she had 5 abortions. :(

@Kleoyoutubes 5 лет назад

Fatima Zahra Elloumi She had 5 miscarriages (not abortions) induced by Castros violence :(

@juliaarnold1078 5 лет назад

Fatima Zahra Elloumi abortion’s don’t cause infertility

@SaraBerry907 5 лет назад

Julia Arnold it can, because it causes scar tissue in the uterine lining. It absolutely CAN cause infertility.

@sagalindhe 5 лет назад

@@SaraBerry907 it's so very rare

@riverdeep399 5 лет назад

I think he was furious that he abducted what he thought was a child but turned out to be a lady. He felt duped due to her small stature. She took the brunt of his humiliation and the fact she had a child, so no longer a virgin for him. Perhaps. Revolting man. Prayers to the ladies and families affected.

@sgcl10658 4 года назад

That makes a lot of sense. I was curious why he treated her worse than other 2.

@CJ-83 4 года назад

That makes sense

@CecilMuffin 4 года назад

He knew she had a child though. Their first interactions were her trying to get to her appointment for Joey and him offering to take her. So he may not have been aware of her age.. but certainly the fact that she had a child.

@OldTimeMovies22222 4 года назад

She addresses that in her book “Finding Me”. Castro, indeed, thought she was a teen when he abducted her and was angry to find out she was 20.

@laurasmith14 4 года назад

She was a friend of his daughter’s, that’s partially why she got in the car with him. So, he knew her age. I just watched their latest interview on ABC earlier today.

@mynewprofileig6197 4 года назад

"as long as I can get myself up everyday and I can survive, there is life after darkness" this woman leaves me speechless. If I ever reach depression low again I will watch this video. I appreciate her speaking out and her strength, her beauty, she is unstoppable and astonishing.

@katiix 6 лет назад

I don't know how she is able to stay so strong without breaking down. I broke down just by hearing what she endured.

@jessicalynn2131 6 лет назад

Kat Estelle It's not like she doesn't break down in private, when she's by herself. Putting on a guise of strength is pretty easy, most of us do it. Seems she's progressing with her healing, and definitely has retrieved even a smidge of confidence and self love back, but I'm 100% sure, she still breaks down when she's alone, especially if she thinks about her son and all the things she missed, etc.

@tammi67able 6 лет назад

Kat Estelle me too

@tt8250 6 лет назад

Trust me she is strong but she must have serious ptsd depression and other health related issues no one can go thru that type of trauma and come out 100 % sane it's not possible and I guess if we went thru it will would just find ways to cope

@cleolacsonticar 5 лет назад

True inspiration.

@QueenB_Jade 6 лет назад

As a survivor of sexual and physical abuse myself, it’s people like her that give me strength and hope. Bless you, strong woman ❤️

@rhea944 4 года назад

QueenB Jade bless u too beautiful woman ❤️ stay strong

@janeadelaidelennox7193 4 года назад

Bless YOU strong woman 💪🏻

@embadly 4 года назад

& it's people like both of yall that give me hope. and a reminder that I'm not alone in my situation & if others can overcome it, I can too so yall let me to try and move on every single day. lol

@rubymoss8312 4 года назад

QueenB Jade I know you wrote this a year ago, but I’m a survivor of sexual abuse too. This is exactly what I needed. I know you don’t know me but I got love for you girl. ❤️

@Immortalized96 Год назад

God bless you

@michelledickson2155 2 года назад

The way he treated those three girls is sickening I can’t even sleep at night knowing he did all that to those girls especially Michelle they all became strong because of her❤️

@snowpz 5 месяцев назад

Lily*

@usasstar 6 лет назад

I can't believe that she can't have children because of what that monster did to her. That made me so sad. I cried 😭 for the rest of the video

@tammi67able 6 лет назад

usasstar me too

@simonaivancic528 5 лет назад

Me too....she is such an angel....

@aneela3586 5 лет назад

Me too

@chrisanshaunagracie4217 5 лет назад

God is a healer he can heal her an make her whole.sn give her baby pray for her God bless u as well with much joy

@gwenscott535 5 лет назад

Dr. Joe Dispenza . Walked again when the doctors told him no, by using the power of his mind. Dr. Joe Q&A - Fertility and Pregnancy ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6xwxwi8arrU.html

@rakansfeathers311 5 лет назад

What a strong woman. "You can't be broken twice" what wise words. ♥♥♥

@IndigoDisco 4 года назад

I strongly disagree. Depends on the person you are & what you experience.

@yesmaam090 2 года назад

Yes you can

@sethstine4698 4 года назад

So sad. She didn't leave her son. She was taken from him..

@gabbye4986 6 лет назад

GOD GIVE THIS WOMAN A BABY.

@strawberry93suzanne92 5 лет назад

Amen

@samanthachristen6953 5 лет назад

In Jesus name amen ❤️

@crystalangel5751 5 лет назад

Amen

@samanthaleilee1495 5 лет назад

Amen

@higa279 5 лет назад

Amen!!

@erinstojkov9300 6 лет назад

She’s so amazing. I met her about a year and a half after she escaped, at an event my work hosted (I live in Cleveland. Grew up not far from where she was taken from and the house she was found in is right near my work) and she was the sweetest, most loving and genuinely sweet person.

@johnmynn1207 5 лет назад

She is awesome indeed

@thedruidmaiden 3 года назад

I have literally never had more respect for anyone in my life, buying her books NOW!! I am so relieved she found love again!!... god, I cannot imagine ever wanting to be intimate with anyone ever again in life if I experienced such horrific trauma. ALL THE POWER IN THE WORLD TO HER, TO ALL 3 OF THEM 🙏🏽

@jessicalt4121 6 лет назад

I am in tears that lily lost her son temporarily until he’s older and wants to see her. God bless you! you are an amazing person!

@atheenachelsea573 6 лет назад

Jessica LT that's where I started to cry :( I can't imagine not holding my baby after all those years

@shawn170204 6 лет назад

Under the circumstances I'm happy her son was able to live a happy life and I'm sure he'll reunite with his biological mother 1 day when his life becomes a lot more meaningful and that usually doesn't happen till we hit a certain age in our lives.

@p.richardson6680 6 лет назад

Keep in mind, only they know whats written in his adoption papers.

@atheenachelsea573 6 лет назад

Chestnutty Morris but she also said, that adoptive parents don't want contact at this time.

@p.richardson6680 6 лет назад

Well, sadly she says a lot that is not true.The child was abused more than once before cps took him. David Fecley was convicted and was not her mother's boyfriend like she claims. I was hoping after intensive therapy she would stop, but apparently nothing has changed. She keeps changing her stories and is still adding more lies. Which makes me wonder how impaired her mental/cognitive state was before her abduction.(see video M before abduction). Family members said she had the mind of a child. Its also mentioned in her missing person report, filed by her mother on the 23rd August 2002. After the rescue she had a very good female attorney who said she was worried about her, seeing the wrong kind of people at the time. Hopefully she keeps looking out for her and especially manages her finances. She met her husband via facebook when she was far from recovered, mentally. Married him in 2015. Who knows if his motivation is not her money? She is very vulnerable, easy to be exploited. Not just by the media.

@belirmaria7349 5 лет назад

"If you had already went torturing your life you can't be broken twice. You can only survive after that." 💕

@b.cheese6830 4 года назад

SUGA

@melanieaddison7088 4 года назад

Yess

@MsPsycoGirl 3 года назад

Her story is the one that kills the most, this woman is a truly remarkable lady and I hope she’s living her best life and that her son reunites with her soon

@saralewis3297 5 лет назад

10 doctors told my mom that she couldn’t get pregnant and she ended up having 4 kids

@Samuelfish2k 5 лет назад

Sara Lewis My dad got a vasectomy, then he had me.

@salmamohamud6987 5 лет назад

From God...

@dewalt4598 5 лет назад

I never heard of someone going to ten different doctors to get checked ??? Its great that it all worked out but no need to lie and stretch tho truth so bad. Grow up

@valiblonda90 5 лет назад

@@dewalt4598 she said 4 different doctors. Not 10

@dewalt4598 5 лет назад

@@valiblonda90 You might want to read it again. She said 10 different doctors and then had 4 kids

@bethc0713 6 лет назад

I can't even put into words how much this woman means to me

@heyitsme6067 6 лет назад

bethc0713 why??

@Amy-fg6in 6 лет назад

heyits me She's inspirational.

@jackielendel1530 6 лет назад

heyits me, what do you mean “Why” ?

@sebastianfranklinshaw9718 6 лет назад

When I read her book I thought I'll never feel sorry for myself ever again. But three months after that the most important person in my world died young so I probably didn't achieve that.

@robindabreu34 3 года назад

I can't even imagine being held there with that evil pig for over 10 years. I think I would rather be dead. God bless and heal these poor ladies. Thank God for the man that helped them.

@lolahope8425 6 лет назад

Just think, there's more girls out there in this same situation right now at this moment!! Please pray for them!! It's a sickening thought, but it's reality!!

@katvtay 6 лет назад

Lola Hope Not just girls. It happens to boys too. It is such an awful thought that there are ones out there enduring the same horrors as Michelle, Amanda, Gina, Jaycee Dugard, Shawn Hornbeck, etc. It is just so horrible to think about.

@lolahope8425 6 лет назад

Katie Kat. You are absolutely right!! Boys too!! I have a hard time at times enjoying life when I think about things like this !! And I'm an animal lover too!! When I think about all the animal abuse I get sick!! I wish I can just save the world!! But unfortunately I can't!!😢

@katvtay 6 лет назад

Lola Hope I feel exactly the same way.

@lolahope8425 6 лет назад

cinnamongirl3121. I definitely have to agree with you !!!☺ I would that!!!☺

@mirrrstery 5 лет назад

Lola Hope true. No shortage of sick depraved men out there :(

@JackGeezy85 4 года назад

This girl is a true hero, mad respect for her

@doloresmendiola8676 4 года назад

WHY DID GINA AND AMANDA DISTANCE THEMSELVES FROM HER SHE WAS ABUSED THE MOST AND SHE TRIED SOO HARD TO HELP THEM WTF YOU ALL WENT THROUGH IT YOU TWO ARE NOT BETTER THAN HER REMEMBER THAT SHE IS SOOO STRONG AND WONDERFUL LOVE YOU MICHELLE

@Jadegreenmidnights 4 года назад

Dolores Mendiola I think that Michelle was actually the one who distances herself so that she can heel properly. I was listening to a podcast by Morbid and they talked about how she loves the other two so much but that they had been together for years that she needed to know who she was without them and who she is by herself

@Ciaratrip45 4 года назад

@@Jadegreenmidnights Hey fellow morbid weirdo ❤

@AreLp13 4 года назад

@@Jadegreenmidnights Look! Another weirdo!

@angieway7203 4 года назад

Y'all ALSO CAME FROM MORBID hi weirdos omg

@AprilShowers560 4 года назад

Angie Way Fellow weirdo here 👋

@GypsyOVOXO 5 лет назад

I pray in Jesus name she gets her miracle baby ♥️ and a relationship that is everlasting with her son ♥️♥️

@jeffalbillar7625 4 года назад

Verily, verily, I say unto thee. If you ask anything in My name, I will give it to you.

@deeward729 4 года назад

Prayers Works

@deeward729 4 года назад

God does. forgive.

@deeward729 4 года назад

God will. Judge.

@deeward729 4 года назад

OMG

@Char-Williams 6 лет назад

"Lily" lights up her face. Bless her

@FEWGEE1 4 года назад

I'm glad she's found love and happiness. She deserves it so much.

@family_tvvloggingandtutorials 5 лет назад

Is anyone else watching this in 2019?

@thatkingk.roolmain842 5 лет назад

Yeah September

@Sara12-c2z 5 лет назад

🤚🏻🤚🏻🤚🏻

@mikivanduyn9630 5 лет назад

Does it matter ????

@thatkingk.roolmain842 5 лет назад

@@mikivanduyn9630 Yes

@savannanikole883 5 лет назад

✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼✋🏼 i watch everytime im feeling low or that my life sucks.

@spiritisalive1 6 лет назад

She has come such a long way from her first interviews after her release. She is so confident, & you can see the real her now. God bless her!

@mariasmith2198 5 лет назад

Yeah. She is selfish. I can't believe her first words were "he did horrible things to ME" not "to us".

@zakiaharris9146 4 года назад

I met her the other day at Walmart, such a beautiful soul ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@mixedsuga503 6 лет назад

Jesus please let her son come home to her.🙏🏽

@queenoflasvegas 6 лет назад

amen

@daniellemunaycush 5 лет назад

Amen

@hereticlife2546 5 лет назад

The guy you call Jesus died 2000 years ago. How is he going to help?

@tinasnow5966 5 лет назад

Heretic Life omg just shut up and let us pray for her

@nataliaxo8053 5 лет назад

Amen

@skylake297 5 лет назад

Still to this day my heart aches so deeply for her I've read her books seen every interview she's so incredible she deserves NOTHING but peace and happiness in this life.

@kayleenikole7575 4 года назад

Same here.

@danielbrown1724 4 года назад

I didn't realize she was 20 when she was taken, that's crazy. She was the toughest in and toughest out. Bless her ❤

@adrianops7 6 лет назад

What a beautiful strong woman. Hands down to her.

@lisascarrott6142 5 лет назад

Adriano Paiva my heart goes out to Michelle and to Gina and Amanda i hope they meet regularly and are friends. I like to think about what happened to them made them more stronger

@ChilddPlease 5 лет назад

Says "very sad" with a beautiful grin: STRENGTH.

@jeffalbillar7625 4 года назад

Love the hair

@Garrett94 4 года назад

This whole story is so weird to me. If it was like the movie, the sicko was gone and they weren’t chained. In the movie they had plenty of chances to get away. Neighbors even seen them in the backyard. Just so sickening

@xTwilightWolvesx 3 года назад

@@Garrett94 What I think happened (as long as I didn’t misunderstand Amanda Berry’s interview) was that there was a gap in the door for Amanda Berry’s child to get through, though the adults couldn’t. They escaped because Amanda Berry’s child figured out that the kidnapper was gone, so Amanda made noise in order to catch a neighbour’s attention. That’s how (I think) they escaped.

@haleyhopkins956 3 года назад

Why is she calling her Michelle when she changed her name :/

@mcnee1ce 3 года назад

she literally referred to her as lily through the entire interview? and at the very beginning when she says “you changed your name - michelle - to what new name?” she only said michelle as a reference of what she changed her name from. she wasn’t calling her michelle, she was saying “you changed your name, which was michelle, to a new name”... she called her lily at 7:46 and several other times. maybe if you understood the english language or had more than a minute of attention span you would have figured that out.

@Noneya2023 6 лет назад

Megan Kelly lacks finesse. She's too eager & ends up coming off insincere. I think she does care, but her "public celebrity face" looks like she's not listening to Miss Knight, rather formulating her next question. 😕

@qt_stacy 5 лет назад

Just Browsing true. Before she formulates her next question she needed to give her emotional reaction to her answers... “like oh that sounds devastating..” “oh that’s amazing“ then asking a question lol.

@janegreer238 5 лет назад

"Pieces of my life came together to make my name" "Your son was only..." Like really? Totally agree she seems insincere

@arnoromeo 5 лет назад

Exactly

@saaros 5 лет назад

sadly shows like these are really fast paced and have very short segments, so rather than Megan being unable to empathize, they're very short on time.

@JudyCerda 5 лет назад

I noticed that too. I do interviewing and emceeing myself where I ask questions of film makers and adoption agencies. I'll have to make sure I listen carefully and react too before the next question. It was educational for me to notice this.

@bdmc6583 6 лет назад

What a sweet girl. Really.

@chloe-xl4xi 5 лет назад

@cinnamongirl3121 at least 35.

@sianbelleful 3 года назад

Why is Michelle always interviewed on her own but Amanda and Gina are interviewed and photographed together?

@evemii 3 года назад

I think Michelle still struggles with the psychological conditioning, in an other older interview you can tell by the way she talks she heavily envies how the others were treated. Though they were all treated horribly Michelle definitely was beaten and messed up the worse, he didn’t favour how she looked so she was his punching bag basically. I think she still struggles with feeling inferior to them and doesn’t want to be around them much.

@Maarisool 3 года назад

I read somewhere that Michelle helped castro be rude to the girls

@heartofglass7235 3 года назад

Interesting that they all 3 went thru the same thing and it ended up 2 vs 1.

@matthuffman4730 3 года назад

@@Maarisool I don’t think so Amanda was his prize he didn’t like this girl much she was his punching bag

@Asmrwithnae2 3 года назад

Like Ariel didn't like Michelle as much as he liked the other two because like he got Amanda pregnant and he let her keep the baby . But he also got Michelle pregnant but he made her miscarriage by starving her and hitting her in the stomach. Maybe he favored the other 2 because they was younger than Michelle idk but it still wasn't right .

@phantomwaltz 5 лет назад

She is so articulate.

@rebeccawhite8459 5 лет назад

Unbelievable story. I hope her son gets to spend a lot of time with her when he is 18. That's too bad the adoptive parents were so selfish

@Godzilla370 3 года назад

His son is 20 now and she still hasn't met him?

@samanthasmith4038 3 года назад

It’s not about being selfish. That is their son. He doesn’t know her and probably wouldn’t remember her. They are trying to protect him.

@paperplate4675 3 года назад

@@samanthasmith4038 No they are being selfish, it's about them. I bet you they didn't tell him he is adopted just so he dosent look for his biological parents. Some people do that and I would not put it past these two that adopted her child.

@beanj580 3 года назад

Her son was over the age of 5 so I sure he knows he is adopted

@MrsSlocombesPuddyCat 3 года назад

@@paperplate4675. Wow. Judgmental. Especially about people and a situation that doesn't concern you. It has already been reported that her son was taken away before the kidnapping, and then with the media circus afterwards, they must want to protect their son.

@AnnaLexi 5 лет назад

*_The son should be around 19 or 20 now!! I wonder if they have been in touch lately since he’s an adult!! I hope so.._*

@bea6564 5 лет назад

Same here

@kayleenikole7575 4 года назад

Me too. It's so so sad.

@MsBhappy 4 года назад

They exchanged letters back and forth in 2014/2015 which she said in interviews. So I assume they have met since she has other children now

@Jb-tb8mn 4 года назад

@@MsBhappy she doesn't have any other children

@MsBhappy 4 года назад

@@Jb-tb8mn Sorry yeah, I think you're right. She may have adopted since she last said she was unable to conceive any more babies.

@lisajanco569 3 года назад

"You changed your name, Michelle. You are now Lily Rose" Why does Megyn refer to her as "Michelle" if her name is Lily?

@vickylynn2432 2 года назад

Maybe because everyone knows her more as Michelle.

@nikkitellechea7977 5 лет назад

her strength is almost inconceivable .. she is so admirable and so inspirational, I wish nothing but happiness and endless love for lily rose.

@madison475c 5 лет назад

Dear Lord, please continue to let her know that she is a blessing, no matter what anyone says. This beautiful, strong-minded, encouraging, compassionate woman deserves the world and I pray that she will continue to prosper. Knight or Lee... You will always be an inspiration to me. 💙

@heatherpoteet3242 3 года назад

💞

@janetDT1904 2 года назад

Amen 🙏

@NocturneSoul 2 года назад

It's heartbreaking how her family didn't look for her when she went missing. They just didn't care, to the point they didn't even notice she was missing cos they ignored her all her life. There was absolutely no love in her life. Except for her son, but he was just a baby.

@cheyenne6996 2 года назад

This makes me so sad. Life is just unfair in that way.

@d.c.5033 Год назад

@@cheyenne6996 I don’t think life is unfair. I think we all go through things, some things worse than others and then things we perceive as “bad” or “worse” but aren’t in actuality. I don’t know anyone who can say they had a literally perfect life with no issues. Obstacles are a part of life and they come in MANY different forms…

@cheyenne6996 Год назад

@@d.c.5033 no life is unfair. Just as I said. It's my opninion. Some people go to much worse things than others. There are a lot of bad things in the world, but definitely there are people out there that have an easier life than others.

@samanthamcbay7859 Год назад

No life isn’t unfair, the things people do to others is unfair. There are absolutely obstacles and challenges that come with being alive but this wasn’t it. People are dealt a hand of cruelty and suffering not because that’s life, but because unfortunately some people are just so incredibly selfish. They don’t care how suffering they inflict on others as long as they feel better. No one should have to deal with what she did. It was extremely unfair.

@CanYouResistClick1ng 4 года назад

Life plus one thousand years, ya know, incase of immortality.

@terraleesnow 4 года назад

A month into his sentence, he took his life. Smh

@janeadelaidelennox7193 4 года назад

Well yes but that thousand years has certain legal connotations when it comes to loopholes such as parole or good behaviour. It sounds ridiculous and they need to reword the law but that’s essentially what it amounts to

@Kaboomboo 4 года назад

It was so if the life was overturned, there was 1000 years, or vice versa. That's how the law is worded in case there is an overturn, appeal, or clemency.

@jeffalbillar7625 4 года назад

This is how it works. He does the life sentence. If for some insane reason they find him suitable for parole (stranger things have happened), he is given a parole date from his life sentence. On that day, instead of parolling, he begins his 1,000 year sentence. If it's run consecutively. Which it would in almost all cases of violence.

@hydrolito 4 года назад

They make it extra long in case it is shortened by later judges. Science might make that possible if your still around in 1000 years at least you know you can live that long still a long time from being immortal though.

@ema9367 4 года назад

she is so strong. I could NEVER be this strong enough 🤯.

@jeffalbillar7625 4 года назад

Don't sell yourself short.

@ema9367 3 года назад

@@jeffalbillar7625 What do you mean? a year late lol

@jeffalbillar7625 3 года назад

@@ema9367 you said that you could never be as strong as she,and I said not to sell yourself short.

@zach4627 3 года назад

I don’t think she plans on being abducted dude.

@jeffalbillar7625 3 года назад

@@zach4627 what does that have to do with any part of the conversation? Dude

@shiviagarwal990 4 года назад

she is such a strong woman I really pray that she meets her son and that she is blessed with more kids

@humanitarianharjot402 6 лет назад

Castro still didn't, and couldn't break Lily's strong spirit. 💕

@Jay-kn7dq 5 лет назад

Its amazing to see how she has managed to build herself up again so gracefully...

@TheJungleHaven 3 года назад

I have absolutely no words. This beautiful woman is BEYOND amazing! There's strength and then there's THIS. She has come away from the most awful, horrific trauma (both before and in the case of her abduction) and yet is more level-headed, compassionate and empathetic than most people you meet in day-to-day life. What a true inspiration. Just wow wow wowwwww. I wish her all the happiness she so truly deserves and I hope she can find a way to rekindle a relationship with her son in the future. True hero, my heart goes out to you xxxx Okay... clearly I have some words.

@MsPixie1972 6 лет назад

I am also a survivor. Bless you Michelle Knight, you are a inspiration, a tower of strength, thank you...

@windarisantidewi7183 5 лет назад

I hope you are doing well - lots of ♡

@danielle4971 5 лет назад

Oh shutup

@bea6564 5 лет назад

@@danielle4971 wtf

@ariablack6221 5 лет назад

she is a hero and i hope her son knows this

@helenaww 2 года назад

she’s such a sweet strong woman, i’m so glad she’s happy and that she survived

@adonaiyah2196 2 года назад

I think shes my hero

@kasia109 6 лет назад

She’s absolutely beautiful inside and out!!! Can’t wait to buy her book!

@Zoyiekka 5 лет назад

Padasia 11 likes?! :0

@OpenYourMindPodcast 4 года назад

This poor thing has been through the worst in life for decades. Im happy to hear her intelligence and huge heart.

@jessicaponticello8937 4 года назад

This girl is such an inspiration. I hope she was able to see and have a relationship with her son after all this. All she wanted was her son and rightfully so! The horror of what she’s been through is unspeakable! She’s a beautiful amazing human being and I hope she has all the wonderful things life has to offer !

@MLaker221 6 лет назад

I love Michelle updates and clicked this immediately. If you're reading this, know that I think of you every time I hear Firework on the radio and think about how you connected to your true self. So glad you've found joy. :)

@777hc777 6 лет назад

The Lord brought her a good husband; the Lord will give her twins. A double portion of blessings. We claim it in the mighty name of Jesus!

@lizlopez1745 6 лет назад

Im an agreement with you on that.

@ItsBrittany. 6 лет назад

I come into agreement as well!! In Jesus name amen!

@jessicajennifer9827 6 лет назад

That's hilarious

@jessicajennifer9827 6 лет назад

Sound of Jesus Time for your morning meds

@desiderata333 6 лет назад

H A amen and glory be to the Lord Jesus Christ who is all merciful and good! I agree with you and pray that Lily Rose Lee have twins! In Jesus mighty name. Amen.

@ShellyBomb 2 года назад

June 2022 - I remember visiting relatives in Michigan when these women were rescued --- it was horrifying and terrifying! To see this interview from years ago warms my heart! Thank God Lily Rose Lee 🌹 is alive and well. I cannot fathom what this woman has endured ... 💝

@georgiananeculau1545 5 лет назад

This lady is so well spoken and clever and so kind and strong! I have no words... it’s incredible after what she’s been through she has such a beautiful smile on her face. I’m amazed by her and speechless.

@kristieingram2039 5 лет назад

Too bad this coward hung himself ! I was hoping for years of extreme suffering for him !! Thank you Jesus for delivering these young girls from evil !

@hereticlife2546 5 лет назад

Kristie Ingram why wouldn’t “Jesus” just not let it happen?

@kristieingram2039 5 лет назад

Heretic Life ?? let what happen if you don't mind me asking ?

@hereticlife2546 5 лет назад

Not have it happen to them in the first place. It was basically rhetorical. I’ve heard all the ridiculous reasons your “lord” allows terrible things to happen to innocent people. But really What do you expect from the genocidal, megalomaniacal, vindictive God of Abraham

@kristieingram2039 5 лет назад

We have to understand that God or Jesus is not causing our plights... We are doing it to ourselves through our own sins... We have a choice to do right or wrong , God does not do it for us ( FREE WILL ) We turned away from God's word , God's teachings , that is all on us... Do not blame God for what we have done and if we want to save this world and the horrors in it then believe in God and our Savior Jesus Christ that they will deliver us from evil... REMEMBER , EVIL CANNOT SURVIVE IF THERE IS NO SIN AND THE LESS SIN THE LESS EVIL !! I have had my share of ups and downs but I have never blamed God for them .... I don't like suffering of children or animals but they are actually suffering our sins !

@Micki3JamesFan 5 лет назад

@@hereticlife2546 Let people have the religions they want to have and go on about your life. You're not going to deter Christians from believing in God. Let it go.

@amythompson5020 4 года назад

Wow what an inspirational woman. " you can't be broken twice, all that's left to do is to survive " wow I have no words. ❤️

@Melll5 6 лет назад

I pray she is able to at least be blessed with 1 child 🙏🏼 She deserves it

@kathconserv 5 лет назад

Mel does she want a child?

@robertpreston6112 5 лет назад

What up with you is Robin Williams

@robertpreston6112 5 лет назад

How you doing is Robin's real

@sonias9960 6 лет назад

That is a true example of resilience I pray to god to keep her happy and healthy. Something she truly deserves always. Take care Lily and enjoy your new identity and life! Bless your brave heart

@beckee26 4 года назад

She just breaks my heart. She seems like such a sweet strong and loving survivor. I hope the rest of her life she receives so many blessings and love! I want to hug her!

@nunyadambisness1675 6 лет назад

I wouldn’t have asked about her fertility. 🤦🏽‍♀️

@Kittyxandra19 6 лет назад

Her son is already an adult. Why are his parents treating him like a baby that can't understand?

@eileen4991 6 лет назад

I agree. How could they not allow her to see him?

@marcnadeau4657 6 лет назад

Mind your business, life is very complex...When you go through that, then speak...until then, shut up you biatch!

@Kittyxandra19 6 лет назад

marc nadeau your stupidity is showing lol

@Amy-fg6in 6 лет назад

marc nadeau You're the one who doesn't sound very intelligent. I'd get off of RU-vid and pick up a book or two.

@liz2880 6 лет назад

Yup, it should at least be his decision. They were probably under the impression that she abandoned or forgot about him by choice which was not the case... they’re probably scared that he’ll go get to know her and they’ll lose time with him

@chelseamarieolivera8738 4 года назад

She's such an angel omg

@michellsteyn4342 5 лет назад

Just think she went through so much; and she came out at an age that most people's lives were on course and she had to start over with almost no support. Such an inspiration.

@saraenglish3344 6 лет назад

How is it legal for the adoptive family to keep him from her? She didn’t voluntarily give him away.... I applaud her decision to allow him to lead the best life but I don’t know that I could not fight for my kids

@Whitneypyant 6 лет назад

Sara English at the time of her disappearance it was thought had ran away and abandoned her child. Her son I believe was already placed in foster care. The court probably terminated her parental rights.

@katvtay 6 лет назад

Yes, it’s because they have legal custody. Once it was known Michelle was kidnapped, it would seem right to change that, but 1.) the adoption is still legal, and 2.) so much time passed, courts generally rule what is best for the child. They’d likely never grant her custody again. Certainly not full custody. That’s awful, but there is precedence for this. I’ve never seen newer parents lose full custody when the biological parent is found, unless the newer parents were deemed unfit. I am sure Lily could have sought visitation, but it sounds like she backed off because it was best for her son.

@starcrossedgirl23 5 лет назад

Well the son must be almost an adult now, he can have a relationship with his biological mom when he turns 18 if he wants to and his adopted parents won't be able to stop it.

@minxymoo2325 5 лет назад

It's legal because the law says they are the boys parents. What you mean? That's how adoption works.

@amandasexton5198 5 лет назад

She could have fought for him because when she was taken they thought she took off and they gave him away thinking she wasn’t coming back but she decided she didn’t want to rip him away from what he has come to known and the family he grew up with that just shows how thoughtful she is.

@antoniafaheerty6980 3 года назад

I love how she renamed herself.. You go girl... Those people who are ur "family" who gave you a name don't deserve you. You are reborn Lilly. I hope one day you get to meet your son. It will happen. One day. You are an inspiration.

@KariAaraas100 6 лет назад

I remember that case so well.It's so sick!! What a strong, beautiful woman

@vampiraJ 6 лет назад

Hey Beverly if your body is a temple, why not have decorations?

@WeatherBarroon2 6 лет назад

Why do you care, Beverly? I can imagine if someone made a stereotylpe about you, you wouldn't like it very much.

@tammi67able 6 лет назад

Kari Boersheim too sick

@happygolucky7458 6 лет назад

Beverly Huttinger It is adorning your body. Why do you care what other people do with their bodies anyway? Btw, I’m black and I have tattoos...

@michaelstrahan2.0 6 лет назад

Thank you for this follow up. I read her book. No human should ever have to endure what she did. It's nice to see her coming through it all and happy.

@happygolucky7458 6 лет назад

Michael Patrick Strahan I read her book and Gina and Amanda’s book in one long painful night. I had a headache the next day from crying so hard. I am so happy too, that they are thriving. They have survived the unimaginable

@michaelstrahan2.0 6 лет назад

Happy Go Lucky I haven’t read Gina and Amanda’s book. It’s on my to-do list.