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Clicker Training For Dogs: the hidden truth trainers don’t want you to know

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Are you using a clicker to train your dog? Or maybe you’re thinking about using a clicker to dog train. In this dog training video, I break down the REAL science behind clicker training. This is what dog trainers don’t want you to know about clicker training your dog.
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Disclaimers: Jenna Romano is not a veterinarian. Always consult a veterinarian before giving your dog any food. Use of this information is strictly at your own risk. Jenna Romano will not assume any liability for direct or indirect losses or damages that may result from the use of information contained in this video including but not limited to economic loss, injury, illness or death to you or your dog. This video is not instructional. This video is for entertainment purposes only.

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@jeanniescarlett7819 Год назад

The clicker is a fantastic tool in training. It carries no emotion, is not a sound that is heard unless it purposefully used. It can be used immediately, no matter even if your talking to capture behavior. If help properly is not cumbersome. Leash over wrist, clicker strap over same wrist with clicker in hand leaving your other hand, the dominant hand free. You can even hold treats in the same palm your holding the clicker. I find dogs respond to it quickly and will work to get you to click. We talk to our dogs all the time but the clicker is a sound they only hear upon doing a desired behavior. You can also use the word yes at the same time so if you're without the clicker the word can be used instead. I stand by my clicker.

@DestroyerMariko 3 месяца назад

This was a really great discussion, love that it focused on the science but also took a balanced perspective. Really helpful, thanks!

@AeraYoo Год назад

I would say the clicker is good for people who can’t mark behaviors precisely or constantly switch up their marker words or tone of voice. Some people just aren’t that precise and this can make for muddy training results. If you can deliver a YES or whatever word you use the same way and quickly every time then I don’t see a problem with using marker words over clickers. Also one less thing to carry/ fiddle with for the average person. Dog trainers have a little more finesse with using clickers. I liked your insight on dogs with reactivity/ anxiety. I agree with that.

@gooddogtrainingservices5351 3 года назад

I agree with the lower extinction with clicker. But, I think it’s because it stands out especially if the clicker is just introduces. Novelty and distinct sound vs words and human speech is used regularly and heard by dog. Clicker only can mean 1 thing, and it is always well charged.

@kristenhealy6106 3 года назад

I like to recommend the clicker to multiple-guardian households to keep the marker tone/sound consistent for the dog between humans (adult males, young children, etc.) I also find some kids love to participate in training with the clicker and it encourages consistency and motivation in small humans. That said, I am really glad to see you dig into the science on this one and to explain the blind spots in the research as identified by Dr. Ramirez. I had always assumed that Karen Pryor had found them to be significantly more effective in acquiring novel behaviors because of the precision of the mark - so it was really interesting to think about it from the angle of termination of a behavior or repetition exercises. I know plenty of clients that can't be bothered to tote one around and in those cases we just don't use them because I'd rather they be consistent in marking with a verbal cue than inconsistent because they don't have the clicker handy. All that to say - I use one myself and will probably never give it up. I've always had tremendous success with them.

@kendallmaizecpdt-ka644 3 года назад

This is so interesting! I was somewhat anti-clicker as a novice trainer. It wasn't until I took Poppin to a scent class that used clicker-based rewards that I had seen a clicker used irl. Poppin picked up on the clicker SO fast and learned more quickly than she had been with me on the basics. What was even more impressive was that her friend, Lucy, learned even faster! I later learned out that as a puppy (2.5 years prior) Lucy had been clicker trained. I became a clicker convert after that session. I teach my clients how to use the clicker, how to use a marker word, AND how to train silently! I want them to be able to move between the different skill sets depending on their dogs' needs. I tell them to leave the clicker at home on walks if it's too overwhelming, cause that's what I do! Side note: My older dog, Kansas, learns better with our marker word, although she does work with the clicker, I don't find there to me much difference in her learning speed between the word or click.

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Glad you enjoyed the video!!

@dogtalkwithdeb 3 года назад

I love seeing Lupin in videos 🥰 I think the clicker is more consistent and have noticed, particularly when shaping targeting types of behaviors that the clicker seems to make it more obvious to my dogs what it was they did right. That said, I rarely pick up my clicker unless I'm teaching something like that because I need my hands a lot for the training I'm doing.I teach a lot of complex competitive obedience skills that require precise movements, and often times at a distance or in behavior chains and i have a variety of different marker words that help my dog understand how the reinforcement will be delivered and this is really important in helping keep clean behavior loops by setting you up for more reps. I think marker words in basics skills are likely not necessary - however I'd say (as you hit on) for dogs with anxiety or who are very intense that extra bit of clarity may help reduce frustration when teaching more complex behaviors. An interesting topic for sure!

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

I love seeing Lupin in my vids, too. 😂😂 Yes! You wrote this so eloquently. I completely agree with everything.

@ChrisM-qo1jc 3 года назад

I dont mind the content, I got halfway through the video but the title feels clickbaity. It made it sound like clicker is harmful to the training. I use both word marker and clicker depending on the situation with my dog. I'm sure u dont care but I unsubscribed because of the title. There's just too many info out there and I think it's a waste of time going through clickbait videos. I would rather watch content that I can directly use in training my dog

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

I'm sorry you felt it was clickbaity. That was not the intent whatsoever. I stand by the statement that most clicker trainers don't want you to know the science disagrees with their claims that it's 'more effective.' I stand by that it's a science explained video. Thanks for watching.

@annylaurie422 Год назад

i don’t think it was click baiting, I agree that many dog trainers insist that this is only way and when I simply could not get the hang of it and I became frustrated with training they blamed it on not using a clicker. As soon as I chucked the clicker and went back to communicating directly with my dog our training went smoothly and we went back to having fun. I am not training my dogs for competition - I just want well behaved dogs that can go anywhere with me off leash without causing a fuss - which I have.

@stejaramaria 3 года назад

I think that marker words and clicker are the same with the difference that the clicker is an even sound without variation, unlike the tone of your voice. I for one tend to say the marker word in an excited voice. The drawback of the clicker is as you mentioned that it can be too hard to handle along with a leash and treats and that you might not have it/reach it quick enough when you need to. A surprising advantage could be you can use it if you have laryngitis:)) I used all 3 methods, but after a long time without the clicker my dog became fearful of the sound, so I dropped it, at least until (if) I desensitize her to it. Now, I find them both superior to just giving a treat because you can precisely mark the moment the target behaviour is achieved (better clarity in the initial stages) and can be used at a distance more easily. Also, while training my dog, I found she had better engagement with the marker/clicker. But the biggest advantage would be duration markers which just can't be done with only treats. If the dog is sitting and you want it to keep doing that, you can use a different marker than the one that predicts a treat and release. Simply giving a treat basically implies a release. In a nutshell I agree with you. If you are not a trainer or a training nut like myself, you really have no use of either markers or clickers.

@System_Spark 3 года назад

Beautiful timing, Jenna! I was just having a discussion on effectiveness of clickers the other day and my friend is sure to find this video interesting.

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Haha! Yay! So glad you enjoyed it.

@janhankins911 3 года назад

I use both a clicker and a marker word. Perhaps it's just me, but I find a clicker just "too much" for some things. I can't keep all the balls in the air if I have to do a clicker. In addition, many fearful dogs are frightened by the clicker noise. So I use both, depending on the dog and my own inability to "handle" a clicker. While the "data" show no "advantage" to the clicker or a marker word, the data also show that if you do "just" treats, you have to deliver it so quickly that most of us would fail. Most trainers aren't going to be savvy enough to deliver a treat in a manner that actually reinforces the actual behavior.

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Actually, they've looked at the time between behavior and treat delivery, and while classical conditioning is best done as close as possible, operant conditioning can be done with some time between and still be very effective. Also of note, as far as scientific jargon is concerned (not necessarily for trainers per se) bridges between behavior and primary reinforcers are different than secondary reinforcers. They're not the same thing. This might just be a technicality that doesn't matter to the vast population though.

@imzadi83fanvids7 3 года назад

I'm the opposite. I've found it's much easier for me to click the clicker to mark a behavior than it is for me to remember to say the marker work or to get the timing of the marker word correctly. I keep both a clicker and marker word in my toolbox, but feel much more comfortable and proficient with the clicker. But then I talk way to much (imo) to the dog anyway.

@janhankins911 3 года назад

@@imzadi83fanvids7 I used to be the same way. Keep practicing with your marker word and soon you'll be just at ease with it as the clicker.

@dianelovett92 3 года назад

Agree with you on marker sound when dog is not looking. I do “human clicker” to get my dog to refocus on me or come for a treat in a look at that situation on a walk. I make a clicky sound. Sometimes I have a clicker attached to my treat pouch belt. Both work well for those situations. We are a bit inconsistent on marker words (glad to know it doesn’t matter when training basic stuff and the dog is already looking at me). I feel like those click sounds don’t get used unless we are training and treats are coming 100%.

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Thanks for watching, Diane. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

@annabarendt1598 8 месяцев назад

What you never mentioned, was that the goal would be to wean the dog off the clicker after a time, use voice to mark the behavior, and occasional treats, not constant treats. No one seems to want to talk about that.

@LisaGallegos 3 года назад

Always love seeing the science 🤓 I totally agree that clients have a hard time w the clicker. I always go back and forth because I have clients who really excel with it. And w the marker word I hear them mess it up too by using it randomly. I use the clicker ring and I LOVE IT so I’ll keep using it 😂

@emilgabl9069 2 года назад

You can use the marker word and clicker at the same time so when you don't have a clicker you can use a marker word. this was a very good video. She knows how to break down studies the right way(think critically). Very good!

@gypsydonovan 2 года назад

I’m 45 & looking for a dog. I grew up in the pre-clicker era & successfully taught half a dozen dogs the basics. I know that works. Dogs read us, and they love to please & have purpose. But, I’m watching because I’m curious about new techniques. Anything that can help a dog learn while feeling secure. And, this time around I’m training as my service dog so there are a handful of new things I’ve never tried. After watching this, I have no idea, lol. But I think I will try it & see what the individual dog responds best with.

@coor0kun Год назад

I’ve always been terrible about using a consistent marker and hate the idea of a clicker (clumsy and I’d constantly loose it), but food alone (well, plus positive noises) has worked wonders!

@lisacorcoran3358 3 года назад

I do feel like I get better mechanics from clients with the clicker than with a marker word, but there are definitely certain exercises where I don't include it. For example, teaching a nose touch to hand already involves your hands so it can be a lot to juggle the clicker. When we're doing shaping or anything that is trying to capture a very precise behavior, I look to the clicker. But all clients learn to use a clicker, a marker word, AND to use nothing when we are just doing conditioning of a stimulus to the reward (e.g., doorbell = chicken).

@annekebroekhuis4690 3 года назад

Hi! I am using the clicker because I thought it would add value, I think my dog’s response on it is better then me using a marker word. But to use the clicker every time you really need to take it with you wherever you go, right? Is it also possible to use a marker word and in other situations the clicker? Or do you have to choose one?

@annylaurie422 Год назад

It is only effective if you use it correctly maybe - but for me it is just too complicated and saying yes feels like I have actual connection to my dog and we are working together - I audited a puppy class that insisted on hands free clicker training and no treats and lots of leash popping with a martingale on 3 and 4 month old puppies - 3 classes in they are still working on sit and nobody had loose leash walking. It seemed like nobody was there to have fun with their puppy and definitely no relationship with their puppy. Needless to say I did not enroll even though they tried to convince me this was by far the best method. My puppy learned the basics in a couple of days after I brought him home. You can tell the word yes is high praise and he is so excited to do whatever I ask of him.

@justwhistlinpixie 3 года назад

I only ever use a marker word. I've tried using a clicker in the past, but I do find it pretty inconvenient. My voice is something that I always have with me, is hands-free, and feels more natural as a form of communication. As communication, I feel that a clicker is kinda clumsy for me personally. I had a hard time getting the timing just right, while it's much easier for me to give a "yes!" at the right moment. I'm sure that I could get the timing down if I practiced, but for my purposes I see no need to do so.

@ozzie444 10 месяцев назад

Exactly. The clicker is the dumbest thing that I have ever heard of. Any so-called "science" that might promote use of the "clicker " methods of training is total BS.

@suterfire 2 года назад

I misplaced my clicker so using a word instead is perfect!

@colossusX1 6 месяцев назад

Thinking the clicker may be useful since I have 3 children and my voice is much deeper than theirs for training purposes.

@Crashtestcowan Год назад

Thank you for bringing some research into this. This is very much a “to each their own” issue. However, the clicker/shock collar debate is a lot like the learning styles debate. Though many people believe in learning styles (Visual, verbal, physical), the data supports that there is no difference in learning ability across the modalities of delivery so long as the subject was adequately trained in coping techniques for each modality. In essence, the clicker/collar becomes a dependent prop. It works, but it’s also a singular modality and only works when you have it. If the clicker/collar are a prop that you can always have and rely on, go for it. However, my dog knows my voice and my specific markers and commands (visual and audible). Rewarded with play and affection primarily, my dog is eager to do whatever I say without any food or props. With this, though, my dog is trained in a foreign language so that typical conversation and banter or even being engaged by strangers does not elicit a response from her. I also tell strangers a fake name for her and refuse to have her name plastered on her collar or vest. With this said, I’ve seen some special pups that needed external motivators. Not all dogs are created equal at the end of the day, and if a method works for you and your environment, go for it. Consistency across any modality is worth more than inconsistency with all of the modalities.

@kahlesswright 3 года назад

Great video!

@jilliebeen1 3 года назад

I’ve always heard clickers to be better than marker words for training desired behaviors, because it’s an exact consistent sound every time. The logic being that inevitably using different tones when saying a marker word would confuse them. But when I say a cue - it definitely doesn’t sound the same every time, yet the dog still understands it, so that never really made sense to me. I do like a marker though to let the dog know the moment they did the desired behavior & to give me a few seconds to reward, so I’m not scrambling lol

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

I think dogs do learn sounds very distinctly, but they're also SUPER intelligent and they're able to generalize our vocal tones and pitches pretty dang well. I think the need for a consistent sounds probably isn't as required for dogs as it would be for a chicken, as dogs are literally evolved to communicate with us.

@112101440 2 месяца назад

It sounds like the clicker is more for the human than the dog.haha

@julianatenenbaum997 3 года назад

Here’s a question- are we looking at the dog in a vacuum? Could having a reward marker let the human clarify their expectation?

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Science is actually just 'the most truthful generalities'. That's just a reality of scientific literature.

@franksatterfield9764 3 года назад

I’m not a dog training professional, but you will have a hard time convincing me the the immediacy of feedback (clicker) isn’t important in operant conditioning.

@getacalmdog 3 года назад

Just so you know, this is discussing secondary reinforcers (as opposed to primary primary) in operant conditioning. Therefore, this doesn't specifically tackle the question of "immediate feedback."