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Jaby & Andrew watch "Cliffhanger," a 90's action thriller where a mountain rescue climber is caught in a deadly game of cat and mouse with a group of criminals seeking stolen money scattered in the Rocky Mountains.
This film is directed by Renny Harlin (Die Hard 2 & The Long Kiss Goodnight), & it stars: Sylvester Stallone (Rocky series & Rambo series), John Lithgow (3rd Rock from the Sun & Dexter), Michael Rooker (Guardians of the Galaxy & The Walking Dead), Janine Turner (Northern Exposure & Steel Magnolias), and Rex Linn (CSI: Miami & Django Unchained).
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@ZigorBilbao
@ZigorBilbao 24 дня назад
They did the airplane hijack stunt with real planes and stuntmen, no miniatures, no greenscreen, just real planes in real flight and stuntmen. As a matter of fact, the stuntman going from plane to plane failed to hold on to the smaller plane and fell of. Luckily he had a parachute and didn't get injured. Ther are videos of that on youtube.
@shredd5705
@shredd5705 23 дня назад
The stunt people who did it was paid some ridiculous amount of money
@jatilq
@jatilq 24 дня назад
12:07 For a record-breaking paycheque of $1 million, a stuntman actually rode a zip line between two jets flying at an altitude of 15,000 feet. He only performed the stunt once
@kartiksharma7674
@kartiksharma7674 24 дня назад
Stallone took a pay cut to pay the stuntman. It is still listed as the most dangerous stunt in Guinness book!
@Everytingz
@Everytingz 24 дня назад
John Lithgow played one of the most iconic TV villains on Dexter for an entire season.
@marqmorningstar
@marqmorningstar 24 дня назад
He played the role spectacularly.
@hadinapokalix7329
@hadinapokalix7329 23 дня назад
straight up real serial killer vibe
@WorldOfConan
@WorldOfConan 23 дня назад
Also in the movie Raising Cain.
@user-eh8cg4bp3y
@user-eh8cg4bp3y 22 дня назад
​@@WorldOfConanGreat shout! A criminally underrated movie.
@jennifervalentine8955
@jennifervalentine8955 24 дня назад
It always amazes me when folks think that movies that came out first are "referencing" newer movies. No they aren't. The other movies are referencing the older one.
@moondog3056
@moondog3056 24 дня назад
Why do people think special effects didn't exist before 10 years ago?
@parkerlewis2007
@parkerlewis2007 24 дня назад
John Lithgow is a great villain.
@jdnaz1288
@jdnaz1288 24 дня назад
Damn Right he is! He also played the villain in a couple other good movies, Blow Out & Ricochet.
@MrBoyYankee
@MrBoyYankee 24 дня назад
Try Raising Cain.
@jdnaz1288
@jdnaz1288 24 дня назад
@@MrBoyYankee That's another good one.
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
​@@jdnaz1288omg yes he was great in ricochet with Denzel Washington! He real villany!😂😂😂
@tt44047
@tt44047 24 дня назад
Hello dexter morgan
@mikelundquist4596
@mikelundquist4596 24 дня назад
"Oh, I see where this is going. " Next line, 1.5 seconds later... "What do you think is gonna happen?"
@ca18drifta1
@ca18drifta1 24 дня назад
underrated Syl movie is Daylight
@iuripaiva5988
@iuripaiva5988 24 дня назад
True
@marcusmcgill4423
@marcusmcgill4423 24 дня назад
Another one is Shade (2003).
@gregorygant4242
@gregorygant4242 24 дня назад
That plane scene is some of the best stunt work with planes I've seen . It looked so real the stunts and planes .
@toddjones1480
@toddjones1480 24 дня назад
"This score doesn't have the vibe of this movie I've seen 30 seconds of."
@krono5el
@krono5el 24 дня назад
Awesome movie with one of the craziest stunts and some of the most rad squibs ever, we totally appreciated it as kids. def an underrated gem.
@76063co2
@76063co2 24 дня назад
I appreciate that Andrew has become a student of 80s and 90s action films. He and I could have great conversations....but sometimes he cracks me up. "I recognize that voice as John LITH-I-GOW".
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
You know he's always pronouncing something wrong 😂🤷‍♀️
@andrewsawyer1375
@andrewsawyer1375 24 дня назад
If you liked this, Vertical Limit has some crazy stunts & shots.
@k.delpino1124
@k.delpino1124 24 дня назад
Cliffhanger was one of my favorites and one of the best action thrillers from 1993. Known as 'Die Hard on a mountain' and 1 of 2 smash hits for Sly in 1993 followed by Demolition Man. This had one of the first-ever super bowl trailers and it had the music of Carl Orff's Carmina Burana: O Fortuna with split-second images. So pumped to see it on Memorial Day weekend. The suspense and drama were on par with each other. But it was the characters and the environment that (for me) drove the action sequences. I was age 13 at the time this movie came out and i loved it. Also had the video game from Sony on Sega CD and the cutscenes were pieces of footage from the movie. Other hits from Harlin:The Long Kiss Goodnight (1996), Mindhunters (2004) and The Covenant (2006).
@Justin0807
@Justin0807 22 дня назад
This was probably the best of the Die Hard style films to follow after that film. Under Siege was very good and Sudden Death in 95.
@noellezcano
@noellezcano 22 дня назад
Harlin also directed films like Die Hard 2, 12 Rounds, Deep Blue Sea, A Nightmare on Elm Street 4.
@k.delpino1124
@k.delpino1124 21 день назад
@@noellezcano i know. Just wanted to put down 3 of them. While I'm at it, here's one more........ Harlin's first American studio film and same year as Die Hard 2, "The Adventures of Ford Fairlane".
@Bunch007
@Bunch007 24 дня назад
5:30 I like how the old guy is laughing and smiling about the situation. All he is thinking "please fall, please fall, please fall" with that look on his face.
@oaktree1626
@oaktree1626 24 дня назад
That cracks me up each time I see this movie! I always wondered how they didn't catch that.
@kellybrincks
@kellybrincks 24 дня назад
That's a hell of a cast of character actors
@orlandoruizjr3834
@orlandoruizjr3834 24 дня назад
For another good watch, check out 1995's ASSASSINS starring Stallone and Antonio Banderas. I was directed by Richard Donner. It's a solid action thriller. My dad and I saw this in the theater when I was about 10. We both had such a blast. Later that summer, we were both there for Demolition Man. For the rest of the decade, the two of us never missed a Stallone movie. Actually, we always showed up for all the 90's action heroes. To quote Ray Liotta from Goodfellas, "it was a glorious time."
@nehemiahmuchelle4822
@nehemiahmuchelle4822 24 дня назад
One of the best Classic Action Movies 10/10!
@ejburndly
@ejburndly 24 дня назад
John lithgow He act as a villan in ricochet with denzel
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
Great movie!
@GuardianOwl
@GuardianOwl 24 дня назад
Need one more film to complete the 90s Renny Harlin run, "Long Kiss Goodnight" which pairs him with writer Shane Black.
@juhagabrieltakkinen1131
@juhagabrieltakkinen1131 24 дня назад
ah Renny Harlin, Finland's gift to nineties action genre.
@SimoExMachina2
@SimoExMachina2 23 дня назад
Director Renny Harlin (originally from Finland) always put something to remind of Finland in his films. For instance in Long Kiss Goodnight Samuel L Jackson drinks Finlandia vodka. In this movie it is the Finnish flag on the parachute of the kid who ran away from the baddies.
@trenchy1990
@trenchy1990 24 дня назад
I wished Lithgow did more Villain roles.
@marcusmcgill4423
@marcusmcgill4423 24 дня назад
Loved him in this and Raising Cain and Ricochet.
@vikingraiders6703
@vikingraiders6703 24 дня назад
Dexter
@HABO2210
@HABO2210 24 дня назад
The Accountant, kinda
@karenvondermehden5054
@karenvondermehden5054 23 дня назад
John lithgow was the Best villain role is blowout with John Travolta.
@marcusmcgill4423
@marcusmcgill4423 23 дня назад
@@karenvondermehden5054 For me, his best villainous role was in Richochet with Denzel Washington.
@JordanCesaroni93
@JordanCesaroni93 24 дня назад
Die Hard on a mountain. Non-stop action and some heart stopping stunts in a stunning alpine location.
@SeeliaVachon
@SeeliaVachon 24 дня назад
I was introduced to John Lithgow in The Santa Claus Movie. He was a villain! 😂 He was also the Trinity Killer in Dexter. I didn't see him in a good role until Third Rock From The Sun. Love this movie.
@nothernmonkey8612
@nothernmonkey8612 24 дня назад
Did anyone notice the bad guy who sly uses as a snowboard before he goes off the cliff is Mac's dad from it's always sunny in Philadelphia
@ChrisMillerCrazyHouse
@ChrisMillerCrazyHouse 24 дня назад
I love rewatching these classic action films from the 80s and 90s. I forgot how over the top they were and how I just took that as normal when I first watched them.
@marcusmcgill4423
@marcusmcgill4423 24 дня назад
Henry: Portrait of a Serial Killer is the first film I had seen Michael Rooker in.
@k.delpino1124
@k.delpino1124 23 дня назад
I saw him in Above The Law (1988). Like one/two lines in it.
@jimtatro6550
@jimtatro6550 24 дня назад
John Lithgow chews so much scenery in this movie he oughta have an eating disorder named after him👍
@corumhayes8178
@corumhayes8178 23 дня назад
I love that the bad guys hate each other and are constantly playing a game of leverages while still trying to recover the money.
@amberaustin3243
@amberaustin3243 24 дня назад
“I wonder if it’s going to end on a cliffhanger”. Good one. Lol! 😂
@kevint1196
@kevint1196 24 дня назад
Lame
@amberaustin3243
@amberaustin3243 24 дня назад
@@kevint1196 OMG really? Like I asked you for your opinion. Keep it to yourself.
@kellisteadman-aldaz3846
@kellisteadman-aldaz3846 24 дня назад
Jaby "why your pants so tight?" Freaking hilarious!
@PurushaDesa
@PurushaDesa 24 дня назад
One of the reasons so many scripts today read as shallow is because, like the reactors here, the writers are only able to draw from other movies, so their pool of cultural references is greatly diminished from the days when playwrights and novelists contributed to film. We don’t read as much anymore, we don’t consume as much opera anymore and it shows in the writing. (Not that Cliffhanger is a writers’ film - it just occurs to me we’re memeing each other into artistic oblivion.)
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
Amen
@viralmedia
@viralmedia 24 дня назад
People talk about the "Bike Cliff Jump" Cruise did for MI:DRPT1 but I would argue the Airplane Zip-line stunt (that actually went kinda wrong but cut away before you see it go wrong) is the greatest stunt done! No greenscreen, not CGI, no cleanup! And yes, ALLOT of it was done for real, with some exception for the really dangeours stunts.
@mojoshivers
@mojoshivers 24 дня назад
You should watch Lithgow’s arc on Dexter. That season is a master class on how to play a villain.
@pmontyjaaaymes488
@pmontyjaaaymes488 24 дня назад
Ricochet was one of his best villian roles
@drewrayg
@drewrayg 24 дня назад
I see Andrew Flash Gordon. I click. 😍 Cliffhanger is an awesome 90’s action flick.
@mattaffleck816
@mattaffleck816 24 дня назад
I did exactly the same 🙌 love Andrew!
@andrewgordon7662
@andrewgordon7662 23 дня назад
@@mattaffleck816thank you appreciate you!
@andrewgordon7662
@andrewgordon7662 23 дня назад
Thank you, appreciate you 🙏
@declaneric
@declaneric 22 дня назад
Tom Cruise had the record for holding his breath for 6 minutes. Kate Winslet broke that record in Avatar 2, holding her breath for 7 minutes, 14 seconds
@williambryan3346
@williambryan3346 17 дней назад
Sylvester Stallone and Michael Rooker reunited onscreen in Guardians of the Galaxy Volume 2.
@MonteBurns1234
@MonteBurns1234 24 дня назад
The scene where they're zipping from plane to plane was real. They actually zipped from 1 plane to the other while in flight. CRAZY!!!
@timcarder2170
@timcarder2170 24 дня назад
A fun family 80s John Lithgow flic to check out, is *"The Manhattan Project".* I think you'll enjoy it. Not an award winning kinda movie, but a decent popcorn flic, along the lines of *"Wargames".* 😊
@rashadwalker8218
@rashadwalker8218 24 дня назад
Such an underrated film....John Lithgow is scary as a villain especially in Ricochet
@Rahk5929
@Rahk5929 24 дня назад
Great movie. Saw this in theaters. The stunt man requested and was paid a million dollars to perform the zip-line in between jets stunt 😆 I believe he was the only stuntman to agree to do it and only once. What would be better though an actual stun man performing or use modern day effects? 🤔 My favorite scene was the fight between Delmar and Tucker ... "Seasons over a$$hole" 🤣
@TimWing23
@TimWing23 24 дня назад
Just imagine Stewie from Family Guy, all grown up, as the villain of this movie.
@StardustandMadness
@StardustandMadness 24 дня назад
Love this movie, has some heart-stopping moments for sure. I second the suggestion for Vertical Limit, it’s one of my favourite mountain climbing movies. The actress around 16:40 that you said ‘looks so familiar’ is Caroline Goodall, she’s been in tons of things. She’s Anne Hathaway’s hippy artist mom in The Princess Diaries, Robin Williams’ wife in Hook, Schindler’s List and my personal favourite - My Life In Ruins/Driving Aphrodite.
@Bekka_Noyb
@Bekka_Noyb 24 дня назад
Very underrated movie. Janine Turner is so gorgeous! Have you guys ever seen Northern Exposure? Great show!
@christopherkim7549
@christopherkim7549 24 дня назад
I love John Lithgow. If you are going to play a bad guy, PLAY A BAD GUY!
@ChipCrisper
@ChipCrisper 23 дня назад
I'm so glad you reacted to this. One of my favorites
@thedarkknight2221
@thedarkknight2221 24 дня назад
Who else only became aware of this movie because of the opening scene to Ace Ventura: When Nature Calls?🤣🤣🤣
@krono5el
@krono5el 24 дня назад
one of the best homages ever.
@SCharlesDennicon
@SCharlesDennicon 24 дня назад
That doesn't make any sense.
@Reefism
@Reefism 24 дня назад
Not me I always knew! LOL 😂
@carladavis1473
@carladavis1473 24 дня назад
Not me. Never seen an ace ventura movie but I've seen this several times and no matter how many times I see this, that opening scene is intense!
@realisticthought1781
@realisticthought1781 24 дня назад
I always knew
@kimzwolinski9919
@kimzwolinski9919 24 дня назад
No matter how many times I watch this movie when the woman falls still gets me.
@k.delpino1124
@k.delpino1124 23 дня назад
Me too. Especially after the first time watching. I heard the shock alone, during a fall like that could kill you.
@kimzwolinski9919
@kimzwolinski9919 23 дня назад
@@k.delpino1124 I have heard that also and I can imagine it could. It would be absolutely terrifying.
@abhinimbaji4461
@abhinimbaji4461 24 дня назад
You two did a great reaction ❤
@MFuria-os7ln
@MFuria-os7ln 24 дня назад
I often spend my holidays among those mountains in Ampezzo, italian Alps. I always feel the thrill I got from this wonderful movie. The first scene is always a great shock.
@chandermotwani3493
@chandermotwani3493 24 дня назад
Amazing Film by Renny Harlin 🤘🏻💯🎞🎬 Amazing stunts
@darrenwatkins7896
@darrenwatkins7896 23 дня назад
Stallone kept hold of her on screen he had so much strength and grip that had to reshoot the beginning with the actress wearing a bigger glove for her to slip out of
@nothernmonkey8612
@nothernmonkey8612 24 дня назад
HARD TARGET with JVC is another great movie. It's even got lance henriksen in but STONE COLD has to be my favourite lance movie it's a forgotten gem 💎
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
"Weeeeeeeeeeee" jaby is hilarious
@danielrosales2098
@danielrosales2098 18 дней назад
The writer for this film was annoyed when Stallone ad libbed the line, “expensive fire place. Bad humor I know.” The bad humor line wasn’t in the script but it was basically Stallone taking a shot at the writing
@scottryana
@scottryana 24 дня назад
Haha you guys are too funny, you say of this film is doing to do a Batman Dark Knight Rises or insert other movie here, but this movie came out 15 years before those movies!! Haha. You should be saying oh there is where Dark Knight got the idea from. lol
@ghostlee6434
@ghostlee6434 24 дня назад
It's like calling out movies for tropes when those movies came out 30-40 years ago and established those tropes people bitch about😅
@ladyhotep5189
@ladyhotep5189 24 дня назад
Andrew references the dark knight rises ALOT.
@toddjones1480
@toddjones1480 24 дня назад
Michael Rooker was sliding around on that cable 4,000 feet in the air between takes, just for fun.
@Tr0nzoid
@Tr0nzoid 22 дня назад
The teaser trailer for this was my favorite thing about it. Nothing but imagery and opera, with basically a declaration that Stallone was back in action after a few light-hearted and comedic films. "Demolition Man" followed later in the year. The trailer didn't even show anything from the air-jacking (maybe a later trailer did; I only remember seeing that teaser.) For fans of the show "Northern Exposure," it was also interesting to see Janine Turner in a prominent role yet looking a lot like her character stepped out of that show and into this movie.
@ericschnellman962
@ericschnellman962 24 дня назад
Good observation on hypothermia. I had a case and was shivering under a pile of blankets for a couple of hours.
@michaelcarbone6101
@michaelcarbone6101 24 дня назад
Lithgow is hampered by being in a Stallone movie. He can’t sound better as a villain.
@shaharadegan9993
@shaharadegan9993 24 дня назад
This one was always a lot of fun❤😊Nice reaction 😊
@marqmorningstar
@marqmorningstar 24 дня назад
John Lithgow played a convincing villain, named The Trinity Killer, in Showtimes original series Dexter.
@yzolakitchi
@yzolakitchi 23 дня назад
great choice guys! For Lithgow at his most villainous, I recommend either RICOCHET (1991) with a young Denzel and Ice-T, or Brian De Palma's 1992 thriller RAISING CAIN.
@rstigler1
@rstigler1 23 дня назад
Ricochet with Denzel and John Lithgow and Ice T...John played the villian...GREAT MOVIE!
@cvn65vet76
@cvn65vet76 24 дня назад
Lithgow plays villain in season 3( I think ) of dexter, the trinity killer
@abatage
@abatage 24 дня назад
Hey Jaby, I worked in a cash room for a while and those thoughts of taking a few bills disappear real quick when you show up for work and have to enter through an airlock, get patted down by armed guards, enter another airlock to get into the cash room, and work under the supervision of more armed guards ... all the while being watched by multiple cameras from multiple angles... =) it's tempting, but you know you'd be fucked if you even started to try!
@actorattila
@actorattila 24 дня назад
For all the great stunts, I'm really wanting them to be as much practical as possible in the upcoming sequel. It'll be fun to see Stallone play Gabe again.
@Daezarkian
@Daezarkian 23 дня назад
John Lithgow was a great villain in the extraordinarily over-the-top Denzel Washington action flick "Ricochet". Pure cheese. I love it. 🧀
@craigcottrell944
@craigcottrell944 24 дня назад
Lithgo was having fun
@shawnsiref9271
@shawnsiref9271 24 дня назад
The music for this film was composed by Trevor Jones. He also composed the score for Last of the Mohicans. The themes are similar. That's why it sounds familiar.
@Devondavis-fm2dz
@Devondavis-fm2dz 24 дня назад
This was a Classic movie indeed
@jonathanheyerdahl3660
@jonathanheyerdahl3660 24 дня назад
"We retire.". L-o-fukkin-lol! 😂
@dpillifeant
@dpillifeant 24 дня назад
It's easy to turn up 30 years later and start talking about film flaws and storyline. At the time we loved it (still love it) and loved Stallone he gave us lots of entertainment; so did Renny Harlin. By the way he also did 'The Long Kiss Goodnight' with his then wife Geena Davis. This was back when real men made real movies. Not the trash we get today. Anyway, I'm glad you enjoyed it. Welcome to the 90's
@PALMERUSA21
@PALMERUSA21 23 дня назад
The reason it’s so bright is because they are shooting this inside a Studio.
@dall1786
@dall1786 17 дней назад
John lithgow always makes a great villain
@noellezcano
@noellezcano 22 дня назад
Surprisingly there's going to be a sequel to this. Sylvester Stallone is coming back and I heard the director is Rick Rowan Waugh who directed films like Angel has fallen, Greenland, Snitch, and Kandahar.
@st.elmogeorge5403
@st.elmogeorge5403 19 дней назад
John Lithgow was the villain in “Ricochet” with Denzel Washington. You guys should check that one out.
@raithnarok7318
@raithnarok7318 24 дня назад
Fairly standard action movie but that opening is something you just never forget.
@epbrown01
@epbrown01 24 дня назад
Truth. I remember sitting in the theater thinking “That actress is really selling this!”
@itzbp9949
@itzbp9949 21 день назад
Standard action movie? You're kidding right. Action movies today are fairly standard
@seleneluna7021
@seleneluna7021 21 день назад
The wildest take is that if they'd just gotten away with it, many lives would have been saved.
@skandan61606
@skandan61606 24 дня назад
A classic! Me and my dad love this movie !
@jplifesong
@jplifesong 23 дня назад
You guys are so obsessed with green screen vs not green screen that I think it takes away from the movie experience…and just focusing on that. I couldn’t get through it after about the 20th “that is green screen” 😂. Get…over….it. Lol. But I still mostly enjoy all your reactions.
@Alexanderthegreat159
@Alexanderthegreat159 23 дня назад
41:22 thats the beauty of action movies. They aren't supposed to be realistic. If it is, its not a good action movie.
@reactionguy6613
@reactionguy6613 24 дня назад
Love this movie can't wait to watch
@toonami99
@toonami99 24 дня назад
Die hard on a mountain. Still a great summer action movie.
@oldcdog91
@oldcdog91 23 дня назад
For more Lithgow as a villain, check out him and Denzel in Ricochet. He was also in a thriller called Raising Cain.
@jjkcharlie
@jjkcharlie 23 дня назад
Lithgow was the villain in Richochet and Footloose.
@gleentea
@gleentea 24 дня назад
If you watch the BTS, Stallone does a lot of his own stunts, including the climbing.
@joshuacampbell7493
@joshuacampbell7493 24 дня назад
Now, watch Sylvester Stallone again in Cop Land. Ray Liotta, Robert De Niro & Robert Patrick. Incredible cast in that movie.
@CokeZeroHero
@CokeZeroHero 24 дня назад
Such a great movie I hope it doesn’t get lost in time that definitely deserves a reaction
@AKking27
@AKking27 24 дня назад
Yesss!!! More Stallone movies please 😊
@michaelceraso1977
@michaelceraso1977 24 дня назад
OH yuo guys def should see J Lithgow in Ricochet as a nasty villain going after Denzel washington
@csgollum
@csgollum 23 дня назад
Now this one was like the reactions of old! And I think the quote is "Women weaken knees."
@kellybrincks
@kellybrincks 24 дня назад
Rock 1, Copland and Creed is Sly at is best.
@AddSerious
@AddSerious 24 дня назад
this movie wasn't really noticed when it came out because the competition was insane at this time.
@DavidPilcher83
@DavidPilcher83 24 дня назад
I used to work as a surveillance operator for a casino. And I actually caught a guy in the casinos count room doing exactly what you said lol... He was just blooping! 💯 💵 bills every few seconds to few mins from the count machines like those and the stacks of money and I watched him for an hour and when he exited through two clean rooms and the only exit, the cops blooped! Him to jail for trying to steal thousands of dollars lol... so be careful where ya Bloop I guess lmao there is always someone watching....
@ericnjoroge5813
@ericnjoroge5813 24 дня назад
One of John Lithgow as a real nasty villain is Blow Out 1981 with John Travolta as the protagonist. I enjoy those old movies.
@shawnsiref9271
@shawnsiref9271 24 дня назад
According to Stallone, along with Rambo III, he put the most muscle on for this film.
@jdchatelain222
@jdchatelain222 21 день назад
No green screen and Omg how awesome it was!!!
@ev1Lsect
@ev1Lsect 23 дня назад
John Lithgow was a villain in Ricochet with Denzel Washington.
@impishsongster333
@impishsongster333 24 дня назад
All the climbing and stunts felt so real, I was cold. Cool flick. Hands down, best Renny Harlin movie, "The Long Kiss Goodnight" (1995). If you haven't seen it, you need to check it out.
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