Clip to Zero | Mixing for Loudness

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Download Template of Clip to Zero in Logic Pro format. You will need Standard Clipper by Sir, Cable Guys Shaper Box 3 for access to Oscillator and DP Meter 5 by TBproaudio - this one is free. Link below
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In today's tutorial, we dive into the essential techniques of mixing with loudness in mind. Also known as Clip to Zero, achieving a balanced mix that also packs a punch is crucial in today's competitive music landscape. In this video, we explore the art and science behind creating a powerful yet well-balanced mix that stands out in terms of loudness and clarity.
We'll cover topics such as clipping at the track level, bus level and master buss. These tricks all tailored to enhance your mix's overall loudness without sacrificing its perceived dynamics or clarity. Whether you're a beginner or a seasoned producer, these tips and tricks will empower you to craft professional-sounding mixes that cut through the noise.
Join us as we demystify the process of mixing for loudness, providing you with actionable insights and real-world examples. Enhance your skills, optimize your workflow, and elevate your music to new heights. Don't forget to like, share, and subscribe for more in-depth tutorials and music production insights. Let's turn up the volume on your mixes together!

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@chriswftdj 6 месяцев назад

Hey Man, im not 100% sure, but i think you saturate THEN dpmeter and then clip. 8:13 i'm going off from the videos i've seen, although i could be wrong. Big up

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

I'm going to go back and watch the orignal video where Baph break it down. Even though those videos are crazy long. But I thought that you bring the levels up to 0 then you clip it second so you can clip at zero. I could be wrong but I'll circle back.

@chriswftdj 6 месяцев назад

@Jamusictv Cool man, let me try and find the video where they say what to do. I'll let you where you can find it, what part etc

@chriswftdj 6 месяцев назад

Just as a quick example: ep.9 (anchor setting) their chain has the dpmeter and clipping at the end. Around the 30 minute mark of the video. There are other examples of this but like you said, the videos are very long to go digging around in.

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

Thanks dude ! I’ll be sure to pin it and change it in the template.

@Reggi_Sample 4 месяца назад

Tbh dpm is the least necessary part of the equation seeing as with the clipper (kclip) you are raising the input and pushing into the clipper to the point of transparency whether you start with a normalised source or not. I think Kclip can add up to 24dB on the input signal. It’s good for visualising if your peak is normalised to 0, what the after effect of saturating has done in relation to the 0 line. Can I just say your ability to summarise 10 hours of material so concisely while also clearly referencing the original was impressive. Good job

@paulie_g_ 8 месяцев назад

I think Baphometrix is a man... In any case, CTZ has been a game changer in my music production. Edit - Great video breaking it down, you've done a good job here man!

@Jamusictv 8 месяцев назад

Thank you. Glad you enjoyed it. From my understanding Baphometrix is transgender female and pronouns are she/her. But this is what I deduced from the comment section. But anyhow , how do you feel like CTZ has changed the game for you ?

@paulie_g_ 8 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv Well I feel like a jerk now..! Apologies, it was an honest mistake! But onto CTZ - it was a game changer in 3 regards. First, it taught me better sample selection and what to look for in my kicks especially, or at least shape them to fit the Dorito shape that you also outlined. Second, it forced me to get good at sidechaining and ducking, since if you don't, the results are distorted beyond recognition. The biggest game changer though is the sound! It's HUGE! My mixes finally stand up next to my reference tracks. I couldn't even come close before. BTW, I found your video while searching for how to master CTZ tracks. There's not much info about this topic out there. Maybe you could shed some light on this topic? Thanks for the reply man! 👊

@Jamusictv 7 месяцев назад

@@paulie_g_ nah it’s all good. I only of her pronoun through Reddit and such. And I agree with all your points. You either are loud from the onset or it’s an up hill battle. CTZ mastering would be an interesting topic. Although technically if you CTZ mix I find mastering is pretty easy. I’ll see if I can formulate a video about this.

@paulie_g_ 7 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv Ah that would be awesome man! It's not something I see any videos on beyond Baphometrix herself's videos, but she does talk about 'keeping your mastering engineer happy', so I know that the intention is still to master even after the CTZ method. If you say it's pretty easy, I'd love to find out how you'd tackle it!

@blingdogphotographybg3448 7 месяцев назад

😂😂😂😂😂 this just made me laugh hard.

@SchibbiSchibbi 18 дней назад

That was a masterclass! thank you

@Jamusictv 18 дней назад

Glad to help !😎

@senfmutvonwegen5449 7 дней назад

Dude, I really enjoyed seeing you demonstrating your implementation of the CTZ-method. That was exactly what I looked for as I am also (like you said about yourself) more of a creative producer and I really needed a video of a person with a more pleasing and direct presentation of the topic. As much as I am thankful for Baphometrix (or as you call her: Blasformetrix haha) and her awesome work, I get headaches and slightly angry for a few reasons after a short while watching her videos. A thing I think to have noticed throughout your video, for example at minute 39:25, is that you seem to sometimes overdo the clipping and introduce hearable distortion or resonance which can't be wanted. I mention this because you said afterwards that no one will hear a difference even though there is a big difference. Anyway, great content man, I also had to laugh a few times about your funny comments, keep it up, I subscribed!

@Jamusictv 7 дней назад

Thanks brother ! Yeah that’s my NyC accent over pronouncing the FO in the name lol. Guilty. Yeah I think I was using my older set up which was hiding some of those pesky distortion peaks. I also am a bit addicted to sometimes over crunchy drums. Lol glad you got some use out of this video. I like what Baph did for the community. But I’m not an ultra technical person so like you the videos can get somewhat heady. I like to just be as direct as I can with my approach. Thanks for the support.

@senfmutvonwegen5449 7 дней назад

@@Jamusictv You are very welcome! I have a presumably easy to answer question, I am just too overwhelmed by all the new informations that are turning my whole production process upside down in a good way. Maybe you can help me with this: I got a clipper on most of my tracks and I am just fascinated how much one is able to clip off an element (for example a snare) without loosing information, sound or adding distortion. On my snare e.g. my Clipper can take add 10db input gain and cuts a few unneeded transients away. Now the question: Do I then reduce the Output in the Clipper also by 10db (linked)? Because if I do this with most of my elements, all my tracks are at exactly 0db and in summary everything is extremely clipping. Hope u can understand my maybe not so bright question haha

@senfmutvonwegen5449 7 дней назад

nevermind, i just figured it out. I'll leave my question anyways, maybe someone else is as stupid as me haha. After figuring out the perfect amount of input gain/clipping you put the output back to 0db. Then you just have to gainstage every element again after adding the clippers, so if you do the method on an mixed project you have to mix it again with the faders after adding clippers etc.

@Jamusictv 7 дней назад

No such thing as stupid questions especially when you are flipping your entire production style around. It can be confusing

@Jamusictv 7 дней назад

Word. So yeah once you clip to zero the outputs can be adjusted to taste so that don’t overload your master. The point is that you are getting all of your sources at optimal levels to see what they are going to sound like loud asf. Lol

@terrencegitmoney5733 7 месяцев назад

umma Trap producer. You're da king. I stopped the video to try it. couldn't wait and you're right. ridiculous improvement.

@Jamusictv 7 месяцев назад

It’s crazy how it works. Right off the top you know if it’s going to bang or not. Which lets you adjust asap thanks for watching ! 👍

@AnthonyHuttley 6 месяцев назад

Glad to see what you did about the master buss clipping. Mine is currently like 4db over and was wondering how to handle it. I think your method will do for me, cheers!

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

Cool! Glad it help !

@DashGlitch 10 месяцев назад

Big ups! I'm glad to see someone talk about this and do it in Logic, on my CTZ video someone in the comments said you can't do it in Logic because the DAW itself sounds "too analog" lol, but alas 32-bit float like all the other DAWs

@Jamusictv 10 месяцев назад

Hey bro ! Too analog ? Lol Logic ? Man not at all. CTZ is possible in Logic for sure. In Bitwig the VCA method is definitely easier to setup because of how grouping and routing work. But you can definitely do CTZ in Logic. I would like a word with that person. Lol but seriously CTZ is a gem. It really takes the guess work out of loudness. You either loud from the start or you need to select new sounds and rearrange things. Often times you wait to the mastering stage only to find out you mixes fall apart when you push them to that level. I wish Blasphometrix would come back though….

@AllmedialabNl 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for the short explanation of the Clip to Zero Method! Only what happens on the Master Buss during mixing? When I only clip my Kick and Bass the way you showed in the video my Master go's in to red. I suppose you have to keep the faders in the Mixer and Master untouched on 0 or not!? Can you please elaborate! Is there a Clipper or Limiter on the Master buss? Thanks David

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

So there is a clipper on the master. But what you can do to stop going into the red on the master is lower your groups at the volume level or you can go into the clipper on the group and lower the output gain. It’s okay to clip on the master a bit but you some a lot of clipping before hand so should be gentle on that level. Hope that helps.

@jayfblank 4 месяца назад

I clip and limit on my master, but they don't move much bc I've already got a very nice hot signal going in.

@outjinx_ 3 месяца назад

hello, you mentioned you don't use oversampling on individual tracks because of cpu right??? When exporting a finished song should I export the individual tracks at 32 oversampling witch is possible with the k clip. ? or will there be too much aliasing through master or some mumbo jumboooooo

@Jamusictv 3 месяца назад

Hey so yeah. CPU reasons and the build up of oversampling over time will build up your peak levels from how understand it. I don’t see a reason to not oversample while exporting fyi. I think you will get more fidelity and a better quality sound.

@cheery-hex 9 месяцев назад

I'm trying this method cuz I'm not skilled to enough to raise the loudness of the mix 13 db during mastering :/ thanks much for this tutorial!

@Jamusictv 9 месяцев назад

Its a tall order to get a really loud mix, if you don't mix with loudness in mind, The top mixer no this so they do a lot of clipping and saturation and compression/limiting in the mix stage and then the mastering should be the icing on top. But when its the other way around, its definitely harder to get that loudness. Thanks for watching!

@randomenergy8431 4 месяца назад

Thanks so much for this really useful video. It's so helpful. Can ask. During the CPZ technique, what should my master bus be doing ? Should It be on zero or is it ok for my master bus to go into the red ?

@Jamusictv 4 месяца назад

Usually you want to tame the bus level so at the master level the clipper ain’t doing heavy clipping. FYI so I get it to where it just catches peaks 2 to 3 db of reduction.

@randomenergy8431 4 месяца назад

@@Jamusictv Thanks so much brother. I hope you don't mind if I can ask for your advice when I get stuck again 🙏 I'm trying to mix in my MPC key 61. It doesn't have a dedicated clipper so I am using the air distortion plug-in. But thank you again. I really appreciate it. Take care

@polznbladz3242 10 месяцев назад

Decent info here. Im starting to get the benefits of the clipper I recently bought. I use the same as yours and I tried the clipper on my kick and notice a difference. What does the over sampling do? I turned it off like you did.

@Jamusictv 10 месяцев назад

Nice clippers are the secret to loudness. Especially in EDM. Over sampling is basically taking the source and multiplying the samples so that when you clip or compress which can degrade a sound depending on how hard you push it. But the oversampling adjust for that so that you cannot hear that degradation of the sound when you push hard. Hope that makes sense.

@polznbladz3242 10 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv So adding in the oversampling keeps the character of the sound rather than distorting? I add the Clipper to my drum bus and on the stereo out and light clip. Fixes any spikes and helps make the tracks a dB or more louder. Logic doesn't have a plugin that does clipping but found I could use the overdrive in a certain setting to mimic a clip effect. Don't need that now I have StandardCLIP. Glad I bought it now I know a bit how to use it and help my mixes more

@Jamusictv 10 месяцев назад

@@polznbladz3242 Exactly the technical definition of oversampling is " increases the maximum frequency your processors can handle and increases the accuracy with which the signal is encoded and processed." Logic has a clipper in the Phat Fx bundle. But the Standard Clipper is much more user friendly and better in my opinion. The drum buss clipping is where you can do more clipping but the track level you can do even more, but you are right in the master buss level to keep in gentle. Loudness comes from how you mix and select sounds. You will get it man, just keep at it. Most people suck for a long time at this before it clicks.

@polznbladz3242 10 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv Thanks for the info and everyday is a school day.

@Jamusictv 10 месяцев назад

@polznbladz3242 anytime ! You are right. You never stop learning. If you take that attitude you will go far at any thing you do really.

@unvaryingArchive 15 дней назад

yah cuh imma watch dis whole vid. I saw baphometrix' video and it was good. She knows what she talking ab. I did some similar tricks to get -5 -4 ish lufs on some mixes and it slaps fr

@Jamusictv 15 дней назад

Facts ! Baph is super detailed. Good method for when you need super loud mixes.

@unvaryingArchive 15 дней назад

@@Jamusictv Yea. I recently learned about mastering from noticing that my older songs / mixes werent as loud as other stuff. Ive been rapping since 2022 so idk how I noticed only this year 😂 But yeah, I tell ppl that basically if u gain stage everything to the exact .1 of a db (or less) and everything is eq'd / compressed / clipped properly, U can get some ridiculous lufs 😂😂😂 Dangerously loud even

@Jamusictv 15 дней назад

Haha I been there where you don’t notice something so obvious until a while. Yeah nah this clip to zero method is nuts. You can do really loud mixes with very little effort.

@unvaryingArchive 15 дней назад

@@Jamusictv Lol. I wonder what people were doing in the early 2000s or late 90s to get loud mixes. A lot of music from that time period is too dynamic for me lol

@Jamusictv 15 дней назад

@unvaryingArchive they would run the mixes through tape. With tape you can go into the red and get loudness and still sound good. But it wasn’t until the 2000s when the loudness wars officially began. You can’t thank the L1 limiter for that and how they used it. lol

@junovue 6 месяцев назад

Can you drop a template for us in the logic format with the routing/bussing for instruments and vocals?

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

I gotcha, I'll create one and upload it asap.

@junovue 6 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv thank you!!

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

@junovue for sure.

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

Hey, I dropped a link to the clip to zero method - Logic Format in the description fyi.

@junovue 6 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv man thanks a bunch!

@Jamusictv 6 месяцев назад

Clip to Zero template, link in the description. Logic Pro format.

@jayfblank 4 месяца назад

I used to use LoudMax on my master, but I don't have to w/ CTZ bc my whole mix is hot, already, going in.

@Jamusictv 4 месяца назад

Yup! Once you takecare of those sneaky peaks you are golden.

@sch_m00p 7 месяцев назад

where my comment go!

@Jamusictv 7 месяцев назад

I think the op deleted it….. I just replied to him or her so I wasn’t the op. But they stop replying after a while anyway. Then once you replied to them they realized how crazy it sounded saying “ I make real music”. Not to mentioned how pretentious is sounds.

@sch_m00p 7 месяцев назад

@@Jamusictv very true, it was a 2 month old comment tho, maybe they’ve learned. And overall, great video!

@Jamusictv 7 месяцев назад

Thanks ! I hope so. Lol