Cloud9 Have Ruined the Best Player's Career 

Cloud9 may have handled this situation poorly, but they may have had no choice with their finances. I don't think they're a bad org, and I'm sure they'll prove that over their time in the league. Hope you guys enjoyed!

I honestly just feel bad for Yay. Imagine being claimed as one of the best players in the world last year to not being on a team this year. Cloud 9 messed up big time and this *may* cost his career.

Imagine being a Tier 2 player and having yay as an enemy😂

Imagine being the goat and losing your job because the org you trusted is broke 💀

Yay is so good that the only thing stopping him from going pro is finding an org that can afford him

We are actually in the worst timeline. Somehow, someway the goat is not even on a team. Apparently, according to George geddes, Yay was willing to take a paycut but C9 still cut him.

If Yay brings DSG a trophy and ascension he’ll solidify himself as the GOAT of this era

so technically, all of this is because of Andrew Tate

DSG just signed Yay.. dropping all his team Yay is expected to 1v5 M80, 13-0, all 69 maps honestly... it might be more doable than his previous roster

Esports is sadly just in a really bad spot right now. Player contracts are way too high for the value they provide. C9 fucked up signing yay in the first place, and yeah dropping him suddenly is shitty but they kind of had to. Hopefully the scene is able to bounce back in the next few years

yay was arguably the best valorant player. it is unfortunate that in this vct season, the best player would be on no team. hope yay will find a team sooner or later

More recently it was said yay was willing to take a pay cut but they still dropped him, mad

why am i watching the whole video although i dont know who is yay nor do i play valorant 💀u have great storry telling i guess

C9 did a nasty move. Buy and lock in yay so they can drop him before the season begins so no other team would be able to pick him up.

Mel said they were offered an extension with C9W. They chose to turn it down because they wouldn’t have been allowed to compete in the challenger open qualifier.

optic was way more deserving of the franchise spot the C9 also

now they the best team in na

Cloud9 didnt just fk up there own year they fked up the season for all of Valorant! they literally denied all of all us YAY let alone letting him high and dry!

I would honestly love to see yay in tier 2 na valorant and see him just drop like 40 kills every map

Answers to the last two questions: yes, and poorly. I also feel bad for their two new players, whom I’ve never heard of even in the tier 2 scene. They will undoubtedly underperform, and will probably get a bad rep for it. It’s like a talented high school quarterback skipping college to play in the NFL. It’s just not going to work out.

c9’s league of legends team placing first in the spring split and qualifying for msi while their valorant team is in shambles is giving me whiplash as a c9 fan

they just dropped all those teams and players just to support their csgo squad which now includes electronic and Perfecto form NAVI

And Now Yay is with Toast in DSG :) Good for him!!

bc vanity is ass, why are you all surprised

I don't blame Cloud9 for the decisions they make 99% of the time. They do this to stay in Esports and it always works well. They only drop out of Esports that are collapsing and that they already succeeded in anyway such as the female Valorant team, Halo, PUBG, R6, Heroes of the Storm, etc. They're still doing a great job in Esports that matter the most and are financially stable and treat 99% of their players and staff well. People calling them the worst org in Esports just based on recent Valorant decisions when they are an OG Esports brand who have been there for 11+ years and known as one of the best orgs in Esports history (probably the best in NA history) and when every Esports org has done poor things at a few points in time are either new to the scene, literally only watch Valorant, or are speaking based on emotion right now. That being said, this is still terrible. What I have an issue with is them knowing this with the economy in Esports at the moment, with their financial situation, etc, but still signing a player such as yay anyway, then making that move soon afterward. Completely ruined his season and messed over his career in his prime right now. They did this too with LS. I understood why they did it with LS after everything that was revealed and it was the right move in the end for their team's success, outside of him helping them get Berserker which wouldn't have happened without him, but you should've done a lot of things first to see if it would be a good fit for him to join as a head coach and do those experiments first. If they did that prior to signing him then it literally would've avoided everything as they would've realized that before heading into the 2022 LCS season. They wasted LS's time, money, and passion for coaching now which showed lots of promise with his techniques that could land him on a South Korean roster.

me when c9 is the best team in americas

Started going down when they traded Xeta for Curry

and THAT is where DSG come in clutch

Feel bad for Yay. He got the short end of the stick when signing with C9.

My first vctgame i watched was sen vs nv. The cam,the name, the agent, the style. I was team Yay first minute on. Ive been watching all opticgames and i was really sad not seing optic on frenchising, which is a fucking joke. Putting the best team not in, but some trash org like c9 or the fallen sentinals. Now seeing c9 sht on yay hurts so much...

Miss Optic...😢

I can't get over the thought that they just bought yay for clout and then dropped him.

I'm guessing the move to sign Yay was a last ditch attempt to reel in some sponsors. They gambled the bag on the brightest name the scene had to offer. Unfortunately, the team as a whole flunked out of the lock in tournament -- a result which likely ruined the appeal to possible investors. Thus, a cascading effect happened. They bailed out on the Yay project and went full damage control with the goal to keep the org afloat.

I feel extremely sad for yay. I´t seems like he is struggling mentally after all this and no wonder why so. I hope he can get back on stage soon with a team he can enjoy playing and succeed even further. He is so talented and humble. He seems like a person who really deserves to be known.

DSG yay sounds good

this aged pretty well

Well, like any job; if you get paid too much, you also risk of having to prove that every work you do is worth your pay. Is he paid a lot? Yes. Did they win? No. Is it worth it? No. Business first of course.

What you said in the beginning is not true. EG replaced G2, multiple sources at the time ahead of time said C9 were in before that incident.

well, c9 is 2nd place right now with this roster

Yoooo sign sinatraa, Yay, marved, zombs and tarik, best team u will ever see

hindsight shows how painful this was for yay's career. From the undoubted best in the world to the struggling BLD roster we have now. Since optc he really hasn't had a roster that was on any level of competing...even DSG had a horrendous roster for T2 standards.

You have to cover yay's contract with dsg XD

Sadly I was always nervous abt thy yay pickup. His season was great last year but it was obvious that optic was the perfect team for him. yay wasn’t flexible enough for c9 and c9 didn’t play around him. If they had better coaching and a igl they could have gone far. imo tho

Couldn't they have traded his contract to a different team? That way they wouldn't have to fuck him out of playing in the league. Excited to see him play for DSG though.

im dumb but why cant yay just lower his own price and allow an org to accept him with lower payment if he cant find a team as a last resort?

From Clown9 to Cloud9 a beautiful Journey Ft. Jake and Runii

Funny how franchising was supposed to be about stability

crypto screwed them over, honestly tsm is in a even worse situation than c9

Which is why they shoulda kept OpTic Gaming in franchising

and now DSG has signed the goat

Trash management cost all the spectators a year of watching the best player in the game.

Now he's on DSG lmao.

Deserves more respect honestly. Good research. Good video.

1. what is your source for Cloud9 not making it into franchising before the G2 scandal, every source I see points to Leviatán, and I highly doubt RIot would deny C9 a spot after their long running following in every other riot esport (LoL, TFT, wild rift, NACL) 2. you literally are the definition of taking the sentence "I like pancakes" and turning it into "so you hate waffles?" with your stance on how to interpret what they said about finance, with the way its worded, C9 paid top dollar for the roster, and they werent getting top dollar results, thats it. 3. C9 has always invested in young talent in every esport (like blaber and fudge) its how they build their rosters, it was honestly more shocking they went for yay at all 4. if someone is to blame, blame riot for their transfer rules. in past situations C9 has not been afraid to let players do what they want and help them get to other teams (shroud with streaming and they helped jensen > dig)

Yay was the problem in C9, he's playing badly in Tier 2 This year

Imagine Sentinel sign yay for flex cause they rich LOL

I mean cloud 9 has dropped so many rosters, rocket league, apex, and now dropping players off in valorant, seems like a shit org to me

Would've been better if you also included their journey in Redbull Home Grounds despite not really being an official Riot tourney but all good 💪💪. Btw, I believe role issues = Chamberist/chamberer job being dead

optic died for this 💀

Chamber nerfed and they realized he isnt worth it.

gg

nah thats crazy they really rented their way into franchising

I don't think that it's an exaggeration to call them the worst team at all? They signed a collegiate (T2/T3) player and Runi (T2). Compare that to the rest of NA franchise leagues and that's by far the worst as none of the other 3 are solo carries or insanely dominant players. (Ex. TenZ, Cryo, Yay, etc.)

Karmine corp's games yesterday would like to talk to the title

I would like Tenz to leave sentinels, Demon1 to leave EG, KK to leave edward, join with yay and 4v5 the heck out of the world.

i think the reason c9 white isnt a thing anymore is because they dont only play game changers & orgs who play tier 1/2 arent alowed anymore to have a „academy“ or a second roster (not including female teams who ONLY play GC) thats the reason CGN esports kicked theyre second roster aswell

You can clearly see that sponsors have left c9 like some major ones like microsoft and blockchain and other big sponsors, now they're left with 6

So were just gonna ignore almost a full decade of good decisions and great historic moments in esports like with league and the sneaky roster as a small example. Just because they had one bad moment? which wouldn't have been a bad moment had they won the tournament and they maintained their finances. It was a major shot they attempted imagine if it worked.

Out of all the orgs he could’ve ended up on it had to be C9…🤦‍♂️ I feel for the kid but damn wonder what made him choose C9

unlucky for riot that they let this team into franchising last second then they do this

I am praying Yay plays in DSG and then proceeds to absolutely destroy everyone in VCT Masters (when they qualify)

We lost optic for this.

I hope Sen sign him. It will become the most hype up team in valorant history

Nah it’s crazy that they’re some how better now. Runi and jakee are great fits for the team.

People rlly forgetting that tier 2 players have come into tier 1 and made waves so many times before and the fact that they have a goated coach in mce and 3 of some of the top players in all of NA

the truth of it is Yay without chamber is not the goat and teams noticed. his salary is insanely high and he did not meet the expectations.

are VCT teams not receiving a stipend to at least mitigate the costs?

Imagine losing a spot in a league because one of your employees hung out with someone that hurt the internets feelings.

Yay is overrated anyway

C9 really made the wise decision

just got recommended this video, they made it work i guess haha

All orgs are going broke, RIP TSM and CLG who’s next

no, riot ruined yay's career. when they nerfed chamber, they also nerfed yay.

Dont forget they signed gambit in csgo and that was 500000 k

Riot should also receive some blame for this. The fact teams are no longer able to even sign him is expect for an emergency signing is baffling to me.

I will always remember cholesterol 9 ❤️

well this video aged poorly didnt it. Jack knows what he is doing , people doubted c9 alot during bad times , they do nothing but complain instead of being patient and waiting.

Esports is bout people spending money to fund their hobbies in gaming competition, you will never make money in esports ever

jesus how old is everyone here 12? 1 year off doesn't "ruin" a career, look at literally all other esports, you take yr bumps and get dropped till you find a situation that works for you, the hyperbole in this placre is surreal. (cloud9 fan here that's disappointed but also knowing Yay probably got paid and can pursue other oppurtunities, so "ruined" isnt the word here chief)

This is primetime for the other org’s to sign one of the GOAT’s of Valorant. Even though he can’t play P1, he’s gonna be getting offers from the other org’s if they’re smart and jump on this opportunity.

Yeah it does look like they lost big sponsorships in BMW, Microsoft and PUMA. A couple have been left of the jerseys like twitch which is weird too. I guess it makes sense as they weren't meant to be a franchise team in VAL and do seem to be tossing in other games too, LoL, CS and Halo being the big contenders there. I know they did just lose the ESL final to Faze and won the LoL challengers league as an org. I just hope this doesnt affect Yays career as it isnt his fualt if it is a financial reason.

C9 tend to ruin many careers, like Squishymuffinz in Rocket League too

Commend, i'm sure you're as disappointed as me that nobody mentioned the G2 being denied by Top G comment. That was genius lmao

sorry but he's not that special compared to other pro players after the chamber nerf. Definitely not worth the high contract price. bro's back to being a jett one trick

the scariest thing that can happen is him becoming a soloq demon

He was never the best though

yay got boosted by chamber

how are you doing that to my boy yay. shameful behaviour. personally i say get rid of someone useless in sentinels and get yay on it

god some of these people are cringe. What are these hand signals, holding up the chains? Top Gangstas!

Dont worry, there will be an anouncement soon regarding yay's comeback on pro scene, maybe next week hehe