CLUB GOLFERS BRUTAL TRUTH Behind COSTCO KIRKLAND & TaylorMade P790 Irons! 

Alex at 2:34 you are literally not reading what the reviewer said, his set was $200 MORE than the K sig. #payattentionmate

Taylormade is worth 2 billion and Kirkland/Costco is worth 65 billion. I think Costco will be fine

Are they suing Takomo, Caly, Ram, and all other hallow bodies?

Those cutaways did not look like they were built the same way... I saw a big difference in the build. There's only so much you can do to build an iron.. all of them are going to have some similarities.. I think this shouldn't even be a lawsuit.

Rick sheils compares these irons against the 790s,they are similar but some of the degrees of loft is either weaker or stronger as u move through the set. I think if I remember correctly ,the 790s we a little longer over all. Check out his review on his H. I. T. Channel..😊

I’m not a lawyer, but it seems like a stretch that TM could win this case. Just look at how many similar irons, drivers, wedges, putters, etc, are out there. Unless they are a carbon copy with the exact same substances, and the engineering is exactly the same, I don’t see it. I have not hit these irons as they are impossible to get in the US. When they came out, all these EBay people bought multiple sets and they are trying to sell them for double. Ridiculous. But for the weekend amateur, even if they are a little lacking in quality control, these are probably worth it. If a person is only playing about 40 or less times per year, why buy a $1500 set of irons? That’s just plain dumb. As far as Kirkland Golf stuff, they have good and bad. I can’t stand the balls. The gloves are great and inexpensive. I’ve heard a lot of good things about the irons, wedges, driver, and putter. Now maybe a seasoned golfer might notice some quality issues, but for the recreational golfer, who’s having to spend $75 to play a round of golf, having a choice to get a decent product and not break the bank, is a welcome thing. If golf continues to be more expensive, the game is going to go back to being an elite-only activity, like it was years ago. Is that what we really want?

Hey Man, love your content. I've been working on my own clubs and friends and families clubs for many years and can build any golf club with the accuracy of a tour van with the $300 worth of equipment in my garage. The only thing you mentioned about the possible issues with these clubs is the set up (loft, lie, length, swingweight) and maybe the shafts and grips. But that is any clubs. If you are a good golfer you are going to order all that custom anyway and those things can be dialed in on these clubs too. Any clubs will likely need the lofts adjusted for proper gapping and the lie angles dialed in for the individual golfer and lead tape is a golfer' best friend. That's the same with a name brand set. With a name brand set, my Dynamic Gold Tour Issues are a $35 up charge per club anyway. Other than minor adjustments what could be wrong with them? They are a lump of metal on the end of a metal stick with a rubber handle. Not every golf club is for every player anyway, so some may like these and some may not, just as a matter of preference. These are probably made in the same Chinese factory as the Taylormade irons, who knows. But Taylormade is and elite company that wants to charge a fortune so they can afford to pay their tour players to sell them on TV each week and Kirkland likes to offer value to their customers. Do a putter set up review. I recently bought a 2024 Scotty Cameron Phantom 9.5 putter with a swing weight of E1. My Newport 2 has a swing weight of D7. I'm getting used to it but I'm still undecided on such a heavy head and wonder why such an extremely heavy swing weight. But I heard Rory's Spider Tour is E3. I tried the Spider Tour at the golf shop and it wasn't E3 or even E1. I'm guessing it was D5-D7. I have a friend that is the golf shaft designer for a major brand of golf shafts. I still want to hear his take on the putter swing weight but I haven't had a chance to talk to him yet. I'd like to see your video on that and then compare notes after I talk to him.

Great video. I wish these guys who reviewed the Kirkland irons told us there handicap and ball? Iam lefty and can’t find them in Canada as of yet? Would love to see in a future video golf watch vs range finder. I have both but use my garmin S62 over my laster.

Alex I saw a review of your in Titleist 350’s a game improvement iron and they are about £1300 which to me is madness for clubs that some might outgrown in a couple Of years. They would last me as a high handicap 64 year old a good few years I guess. I play Wilson D7 irons, great irons lovely feel and sensibly priced. I got mine 2nd hand virtually pristine less than 6 months old £400

I hate that TM is suing a discount club maker I have KS irons. I’m a 20 handicap and I like them a lot.

My mom bought one kislux and she loves it. It had been there for over 10 years when she went out with it.

Interesting discussion Alex. Some years ago I was talking to a friend and wondering what happened to Adam's Golf, he told me that Adams had invented the speed slot and Taylirmade copied it and to avoid a threatened law suit Taylormade bought Adams out. If that is true it is somewhat hypocritical of Taylormade to sue Costco for producing a similar looking iron. There are also a number of other companies that produce similar looking hollow body irons so I wonder why Taylormade have only singled out Costco.

For a long time, as the price of Chanel increased, I no longer thought I could afford it. I think I'll be happy that I have the kislux as my travel bag that I don't have to take care of. By the way, I'm sure no one will have a hard time telling the difference. Thanks for the comparison.

The problem isn't that COSTCO is too cheap (thereby sacrificing QC or consistency), its that the pricing set by the big equipment makers is too expensive. I work with factories who cast and forge very precise parts (we're talking about tolerances in the microns) and you would surprised how INEXPENSIVE it is to cast/forge + finish a part ONCE the tooling/mold is done. Once the finished part is completed, they are usually checked to a precisely made fixture to ensure compliance. Its a very profitable industry if you are successful at marketing your products.

suing for what the insert and designed totally different for P790, Costco should counter-suing back to shut the Taylormade off

Alex, loft specs would be useful as would shaft component

Golf Galaxy is selling new Callaway and Taylormade drivers for $599 USD. Brand name irons start around $900 and go up to 2k. Kinda ridiculous. I buy very few clubs new unless they are on sale. I hope brands like Kirkland and Takomo keep doing what they're doing!

Are you able to test the Maltby ts3 irons?

I was wondering if that head cover was going to take a swim 😂🤣 Glad you saved it 👍🏻👍🏻

The top dogs will never lower their prices like the one reviewer questioned. They don’t need too, because they are well established, and people will pay the prices. As for buying the Kirkland, I personally wouldn’t. I play the ‘23 p790 and love them. My next set will likely be the p770 or whatever equivalent they have at the time. However if I were to dip into that money conscious iron set, I’m not even considering Kirkland when I can get the Takomo irons. They have tons of feedback and come in at a good price. I wouldn’t mind trying the 201 model

I have a question about the Callaway mini. How far down will the loft go? I don’t need the higher lifts but love the smaller heads.

Hi Alex, I’m not 100% sure, but I believe I heard when Taylormade brought out the P790. There was a law suite against Taylormade for infringing on a patent of PXG. The law suite went away,so I . imagine Taylormade wrote a big check. Maybe something you could look into, for curiosity sake.

Not an expert but didn't have the same issues with the golf balls. I'm sure Costco doesn't want to take an L on any of its product's but Im sure they are not too concerned about Taylormade bringing a lawsuit. To the issue of price there are alot of new companies building some really good equipment you just have to do your homework. The big names are taking the little guy out the game. Cheers

I’m not sure you need any spin for a ball to roll back down a hill. Gravity is sufficient.

Of course it will lose 10 yds... Jpx 923s are low spin rocket launcher shovels with lofts intended for slow people.

HEY kislux I have been watching you for years and im so proud of where you have made it! I love you so much! Also thanks for making my day

Why driver, driver? You are testing irons and you spoke about “gapping”. That would have been a great opportunity to hit back to back different irons into that par 5 to test your earlier gapping comment. Who cares if they are a little “shorter” than 790s. As long as the gapping is consistent, they are solid irons. Higher ball flight, check. Higher spinning, check. Consistent gapping??? Just my $0.02. Keep up the great content, sir.

That guy using 923 might have just confirmed me buying them Need irons that dont go too far and spin more

I would have gotten them to try them out just bc of the price but they didn’t make lefties . 😁….. many direct to consumer companies out their now 👍🏽

These aren’t manufacturers and part of the problem is neither are the major brands. Others are manufacturing for them. My reaction would be to try and bring more in house.

Like when Taylormade ripped off pxg?

How come you started another golf channel?

You do realize some people need more height and spin and they don’t care about distance lol that’s exactly who these clubs are for

My understanding (from reading other views and from friends who have used them) is that the rest of the KS range is all aimed at a fat part of the bell curve regarding player skill, with forgiveness being a noticeable factor. 80-90% of the subjective performance for 50% of the cost. The irons are far less approachable than the wedges or driver. They are serious muscle backs that need a high swing speed and an accurate strike to perform well. The player who could take advantage of the driver and wedges wouldn't have the skill to make the best use of the irons. Just my limited understanding, so take it with a heaping pile of salt.

I would never play Kirkland anything. I am too invested in my game and serious about it. But they sure can make whatever they want and I recognize they have a place in the hacker market.

Dr.'s, Lawyers and Insurance agents buy the expensive new clubs. The rest look for good deals on used stuff !

The lawsuit is great PR for both sides.

Try again. You are almost there

If lie and loft are off ...buy and talk .em to a fitter and have bent

Bruv why are your trousers so short? Expecting a flood?

Takomo caley ...go get these and nicer looking and will be better made 👍

Buy the time you re shaft em loft lie angle grips beterof going with TM I need half inch longer and different grips and loft and lie angle done

Good god he is a nonstop talker. BTW I like this guy BUT, if I bought a set of these I would check the loft and lie. (I have a machine that I’ve had for about 10 years now. It was only about 350$ and it’s not the best but gets the job done.). Half the price of the P790. I think I could make them work.

kislux I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter

Look at that cut profile between the two irons. Not even close. There's no way TM has a case.

Why are we even watching talking or considering any Kirkland / Costco anything when you can’t get em in the U S and they don’t even have them on their website. This must be a U K thing..

It the same court case as Gibson and Japanese guitar makers, Taylormade will loose. Wouldn't swap my Titleist zm-b or Maruman irons for either of them and they're ancient but better quality than both of them.

The compression on Costco Balls are inconsistent. Plenty of surprises in every sleeve.

im sure you meant discrepancy not discrectioncy 🙂

You didn’t do a great job of analyzing when reviewers are bringing up basic things like distances between Kirkland irons and jpx 923s, the obvious answer is his 923s have stronger lofts, easily accounting for the distance loss, and you should’ve brought that up. Otherwise all you’re doing is just repeating was repeating reviews and it’s totally uninteresting.

I'm not positive but I don't think Kirkland is paying out hundreds of millions of dollars to sponsor tour pros or run commercials to promote their clubs. They would probably have to charge $1500 for a set if they did! But they sure are getting a lot of free marketing on RU-vid!

" Discretioncy ", is that like " Strategery " ?

I love that you don’t understand 200 more than these. If only there had been a comma. 😂

2000 dollar irons 650 dollar drivers and 100 dollar green fees are not going to bring people to the game in fact it’s going to drive some people away from the game who have been playing for years!

I'd buy a Lab putter knockoff from Kirkland for $199 if they made one.

I would never buy any Kirkland golf gear. I want the best performance. Which means I only play custom fitted clubs.

Bro, why do you sound like such a hater of these clubs.

Who cares about Kirkland, Takomo is better and it isn’t even close

If taylormade didn’t pay their ‘athletes’ so much money they could reduce their price. Probably wouldn’t sell much though.

Poor review. Disjointed, no substantial comparison

Clubs for customers not pros. Doesn’t matter if it’s 1 or 2 degrees off. Amateurs can’t tell the difference and certainly can’t hit an iron like a pro. Good for beginners. Long time players have their preferences. It’s supposed to be a deal for their members. Like their hot dogs. Kirkland Quality is good enough. If a guy is wanting to be a pro he will buy accustom set of irons. Not P790s. They are for Saturday wanna be’s.

All those type of irons look the same

Such a big mistake you can't get a set, all sold out.

I'm shallow! No matter the outcome I'd never play Costco clubs!

kisluxbag I love you so much and watching your videos makes my day brighter