Clutches, Brakes, Transmission Gears, and More in the NEW Gearblocks Update! 

What should we build with the new parts in Gearblocks? Edit: I also apparently confused a CVT (continuously variable transmission) and centrifugal clutch. My bad on that, will explain better in the future in edits if I have to.

A centrifugal clutch like that one is not the same as the CVT found in mopeds and snowmobiles. The centrifugal clutch you have in the game does not change the gear ratio, the only thing it does is engage with increasing rmp and makes sure the rpm of the input and the output will match.

Under connectors you have a pin that let's you hold creation in place, so you don't have to build a stand when you're testing something.

The centrifugal clutch usually is used on the crankshaft of an engine with a gear or pulley system. It works with weights and springs that extend when the engine gets to a certain rpm and engage with the gear part of the clutch causing rotation just by friction. Used on Karts and motorcycles a lot.

You can now make a 6 speed transmission, 3 gears either side with a clutch to engage either even or odd gears!

12:53 these are very different, there are basically just a drum brake attached to the engine shaft. You are thinking of a centrifugal CVT clutch. Also the centrifugal clutch is used for go karts and some motorcycles.

It would be very very cool if the dev added 'synchro sleeves' with ID gear teeth, so we could build IRL transmissions. The geared clutch could be used for a number of things, one that comes to mind is a pony axle, or lockable secondary differential (4x4, selectable). The thing you are thinking of is a CVT gearset, two cones with a belt/chain that changes speed/gearing based on the speed of one side. Centrifugal clutch has a 'drum brake' system that will engage or disengage at specific RPM (over a range dictated by spring load handling). If there are any kind of logic elements, you could make a sequential gearset with multiple clutches, moving gears, and actuators that are enabled in sequence.

There absolutely _are_ transmission that move gears themselves to change ratios. Any manual transmission does that with gears sliding on splined shafts. To make meshing easier those gear teeth have tapered ends, although that's not always a thing. System with clutches for each ratio is basically an automatic transmission, however they _can_ be shifted manually. As a matter of fact, if a transmission controller in your car goes out, it's easy to convert it to a "manumatic" or clutchless auto. An auto transmission selects gears via couple of solenoids (combinations of on/off, so 2 solenoids = 4 gears) and it is just as easy to control them with a multi-position switch that you switch by hand.

12:15 mabye you can use if for 4 wheel drive and have a transfer case built with it.

Me being the most exited of the centrifugal clutch for building a fully automated transmission xD

What you were thinking of was a continuously variable transmission, aka a cvt

what kan is talking about the centrifugal clutch is i think actually the CVT mechanism

The centrifugal clutch in this game looks like the ones found inside Chainsaws!

snowmobiles and mopeds have centrifugal clutches AND continuously variable transmissions (CTVs), which is what you're describing

18:10 Smaller gear on the driver means more torque because the smaller gear causes less resistance to the driving force by the resisting force. The driving gear acts as a class 3 lever, more distance more resistance.

For the clutchs, for example leaving them on first gear and making one of the two clutch gear invert, one key would be enough for the second gear

You can make an automatic transmission using the centrifugal clutch if you have some logic checking for RPM and controlling clutches, i think. Basically, the RPM will command clutches that will engadge and desengade sets of gears, which basically changes the gear hoocked to the tramission line. I think at least

You should see if you could make a Torsen limited slip differential with the worm gears in this game. It would be fascinating to see how it would work in this game.

I'm hyped with this game. So much car related stuff that is possible here that's not possible in Scrap Mechanic, Trailmakers, Main Assembly, etc.

I'm lost, but this is all cool stuff to watch :D i do know what the rubber band CVT is though. as my ATVs have that.

Awsome update

9:52 i would say put a clutch on right after the brake on the wheels, and make then the same keybind. so when you brake it didnt stop the whole axle

15:00 I believe what you are talking a bout is a Continuously Variable Transmission, not a clutch. This clutch only connects the two sides if the rpm difference between is high enough. The interval between the lowest and highest speed is the part where the clutch is grinding and not transmitting the full torque. also: you could perhaps try to make a working H-shifter transmission? maybe even a variation of it: the shifter of the iconic Citroen CV2. (might be a relatively simple way to provide the input for the H-shifter)

18:30 - have you seen spintronics? it's an analogy of electric circuits using gears. I think the clutch would do something similar where it has a total resistance based on it's radius and it's force then they would both help slowing down the rotation. I might be wrong but I'm heavily considering to buy this game to build spintronics stuff...

Tye centrifugal clutch can be used on small go-carts and scooters so that it enganges when you increase throttle so you don't have to press a clutch

Love the video Do you think you could do more detail valley races again?

Love CVT, max efficiency plus max torque. Volvo has made an CVT gearbox for an 40 ton truck, that means you need a maybe 60 ton CVT torque clutch system inside to keep up with the pressure - cool tech.

It would be fun to see a semi-truck with a 2-speed rear end in it. It would be a real showcase for doing gear changes.

while those snowmobile trannies might use centrifugal in operation, they're technically cat's. the ones on go karts are just a bell on one side and hinged clutch shoes retained by springs that expand and make contact with the bell above a certain rpm. their purpose is to let you come to a complete stop without the engine dying. (similar how it works to a torque converter, and is a replacement for a manual clutch). as for the the keybindings, does the game not have a controller where you can use logic to make it have one be the boolean opposite of the other? like if clutch 1 is on, clutch 2 is off? and vice versa? would allow you to make some really cool things if they can be triggered by a controller or similar

you are talking about the snowmobile variator which is connected to the centrifugal clutch,the variator is changing the gear ratio using some rollers

The centrifugal clutch does two main things. It disconnect the drivetrain at idle, and increases clamping force with RPM. I'm not sure they are EVER? used for electric motor though. e.g. Start the motor, idle at 400rpm, clutch stays disengaged. Open throttle, clutch starts engaging at 500rpm, clamping pressure increases with RPM. Higher clamping force increases maximum torque before clutch slip occurs. A small amount of clutch slip is good when load suddenly changes - like starting from a dead stop, or changing gears.

New stuff, Woo!

With the clutch with a gear if you can make it connect at a serton rpm you could build a automatic transmission

A video going over transmissions and how they work and transfer power would be really cool honestly, especially with a game like this to use as a visualizer. Even 90s era automagic transmissions are beyond me, i know its gears and pressures but honestly its still just black magic to me. I watched a 3 hour youtube video of a master transmission mechanic taking apart and trying to explain the power transfer of the zf 8 speed in my ram and by the end of it even he didnt really understand how it works. 2 planetary gears, 6 direct drive with 2 overdrive gears...

centrifugal clutches go on pitbikes and such, they have weights that when spun engage the outer bell creating friction and drive, A CVT (Continuously variable trans) is on a snowmobile,

this is just... this is life saving... although now we need logic to activate them differently with just 2 buttons

controlling the new clutched transmission using a g29/g290 with the driving force switcher is great, the shifter only "engage" one action key at a time

I wonder if its possible to either mechanically or through logic use the same keybinding to go into higher gears for example, (though it doesn't make sense hand position wise, just an example) using page up and page down to engage and disengage the clutches in order.

Could you use the centrifugal clutch for a limited slip differential? You'd need to generate an output that's the difference of both wheel speeds on some shaft, and just feed that into a centrifugal clutch.

14:40 I assume you're talking about the CVT Transmission/Gokart and similar small engine clutches as that's about how they work and are all about the same from what I have seen. A rather old one, and not very good in demanding applications due to the belt's tendency to wear out rather quickly; I recall the one lap wear being far too extreme for the F1 car that had that transmission type, which also made the engine sound cursed af as it was a steady max rev regardless of the speed...

these videos are my favorite please make more KAN

A planetary gear set should be possible with this

maybe try using numpad for the gears, 7.8.9 and 4,5,6 to represent your usual 5 speed, just trying to follow the usual shift diagram

in the clutch gears have that stop button of the first be the start button of the second gear

Each clutch has a primary and secondary keybind you can set. So you could set each clutch to a toggle, and have the next clutch activation key as the secondary activation key for the clutch before it. So each time you gear up, it activates the next clutch, and deactivates the previous one. Not sure how to handle gearing back down though. Would be simple if your vehicle only has 2 gears, but anything greater than 2 gears would need some other way to handle gearing back down.

it would be cool if you could like link each clutch gear in a series and set a button to engage the next gear in series and a button to engage the previous gear in the series.

the clutch you were talking about is called variator

nice

I really just wanna see the go kart with a differential and proper transmission lmao

That style clutch is more like a basic go kart/ mini bike clutch. Cvt or torque converter is what you were thinking.

Mabye you can try a truck with a Atachable trailer like a little holder of some sorts.

The gear on the clutch is to save space instead of putting a whole extra block out worth of space just for a gear

you were talking about CVT gear and is most cvt you have a centrifugal clutch inside of it

The type of clutch you're talking about, kAN Gaming is called a CVT or "Continuously Variable Transmission" there are 3 basic parts to a CVT, the is the Variator pulley mounted to the engine or motor output shaft, the Belt, and the Centrifugal clutch out the output shaft to the wheel or axle. The "Variator" which is the part that you're trying your best to describe that changes the ratio uses weights like your classic centrifugal clutch, but instead of relying on rpm to simply engage or disengage the output. A CVT Variator widens or narrows the pulley gap depending on input RPM, causing the ratio to change. The weights I mentioned earlier are called fly-weights and they push on the plate "at higher RPM" that is spring loaded, compressing said spring, and thus Narrowing the gap on the pulley forcing the belt to ride higher in the pulley groove, and thus increasing the ratio for speed. when RPM is lowered, the belt is allowed to go deeper into the pulley groove, and thus lowers the ratio for torque. you need high torque to break inertia, but once the vehicle is moving, It takes less torque to maintain or gain speed so the ratio is changed to be geared for speed rather than torque. and the ratio created is directly proportional to the RPM of the motor / engine, and the load / resistance. and the ratio changes automatically as the vehicle accelerates. This also allows the ratio to drop to create more torque for let's say an uphill slope. and increases the ratio for speed on a downhill slope, or flat and level.

I can't wait for planetary gear sets so I can make a 43 speed transmission from two planetary sets

Hey kan love this game but in some time can you play railroads online please

Kan could try to hire an editor, so when Kan is explaining something, editor could help viewers to better understand what he is saying. like when he tried to explain how centrifugal clutch works, he could just add a clip of CVT how it works

oohhh this is what a clutch gear does? nice. So I can build a LST for the Koenigsegg I´m building.

I wish they would let you put a clutch gear in diffs so you can lock them. I tried to make it work but it just doesn't let you put a clutch spur gear in the premade diff parts :(

tank steering time!!!

The clutch w/ ring gear is probably for when we start making piston engines, so we can have a starter motor

Kan.. think the .uk invacar (3 wheel handicaped vehicle of the 70s?) (hubnut has done a playlist on youtube about em) has one of those belt transmissions

Im waiting for ICE's to hopefully be added, to get the game. Mabye Multiplayer as well

Of course, I find a way to make an inline differential, and now they bring out the clutch with gear...

CVT is a continuously varied transmission that does exactly what youre thinking

They should add realistic sound/air Physics

You wont have to remember anything, surely some logic or even some kind of indicator could help with automatic shifting or the indicators for showing what gear is engaged

can the motor be assigned to the variable trigger of an xbox controller that would allow variable motor rpm? that would allow for the centrifugal clutch to work how its designed.

1:57 are you talking about gear synchronizers?

Do you know if there's an easier way to build stuff in bulk? Like I'm trying to make some sort of vehicle, but I can't copy and paste in bulk. I can only do one piece at a time.

The bigger gear loses the fight because its torque is being converted into rotational speed at a 3:1 ratio, effectively dropping it to...what, 1/3rd the torque? The other one, at a 1:3 ratio, is magnifying the torque giving it ~triple the torque at the cost of 2/3rds its rotational velocity on the output. To put it another way, what's easier: Lifting a 50 pound/22.5kg weight lifting it alongside your body, or locking your arm and rotating it level to your shoulder straight out from your body? One requires a lot more force on specific muscles even though both are doing the same work.

it's not a clutch you're describing. It's a variable speed belt driven gearbox that uses cones to change diameter of pullys

I had a good idea to make a breaking system, but I was out of state and away from my PC. I come back, and SURPRISE, breaks just get added... RIP motivation...

For the clutch with ring gear. In a real car, the ring gear would be attached to the flywheel on the engine side and is used for the starter motor to engage spin up the engine. I have no idea what the use would be for it in this game where there aren't gas-powered engines. This may hint at gas engines coming in the future. And for the centrifugal clutch I believe that would be similar to what you would find on a motorcycle or an ATV. It acts similarly to a drum brake where it has multiple small clutches attached to springs and when RPM raises the clutches are pushed outwards to make contact with the "Drum" which is where the power comes out. So depending on how stiff the springs are would determine at what RPM those clutches engage.

new stuff jay

Imagine if Scrap Mechanic got an update.

im curious if something like a multispindle lathe machine could be rebuilt into this game

13:02 isn't that the CVT stepless "gearbox"? usually a centrifugal clutch is in front of it (for example in chainsaws)

Is there a clutched differential too?

Is a centrifugal clutch a CVT in terms of car transmissions?

You should try out besiege, it's much fun

Most gearboxes nowadays still have forks and years physically moving. There is only a small handful or two of cars where all of the gears are engaged at the same time. Two or three of those models are from Koenigsegg

ive always been a snowmobile guy but never really learned how a snowmobile clutch really worked so its cool to know how it works now thanks to kan

If you can control the clutch with a key, it is a manual clutch, not a centrifugal one, or am I wrong?

i neeed to know if you can bind different input devices, i have a sim shifter that basically holds down the button for me, so i wouldn't have the problem you described at the end would that be possible? (imagine this game with the force feedback from a simwheel 🤯)

The problem with grip (with tires) is people refers to grip as friction force but in reality grip is pressure force. so in a corner, a narrow tire or a soft tire will have more grip (ability to hold a direction) A wide tire give the ability to change directions - more rotation in a turn, braking, and acceleration. it not grip - its friction forces! Think of it like a (wide) monster truck tire vs a (narrow) tractor tire.

Next update :wings nukes and propellers

we need logic now so we can bind one key lol

imagine if you could map actual racing rig inputs

Hi, when will you and kosmo do the co op in new scrap mechanic?

kan make a monster truck please, i know they use axle breaks. i have no idea how those work id like you to show us that

Hu snowmobile actually use a CVT belt drive

There's a new engine in railroads online can you please make episode9

Hello kAN, can you build some kind of differencial lock please? I plan to buy this game and want to build nearly realistic vehicles like semitrucks and off-Road Trucks. To build these I want to build some parts by hand before. Therefor it wozld be useful to understand how these parts (difflock, retarder etc) work Thank you so much!

Can u put a pulley on a centrifugal clutch????

Time to slap 20 gear reductions in a row I think

14:40 the clutch youre talking about isnt a clutch. yourtalking about a cvt transmission. a centefrugal clutch just like the one in the game is placed behind the input pulley of the system that is commonly used in mopeds and snow mobiles

You cloud try building a sequential gearbox

you are thinking of cvt

You think about the Roman Empire a lot