Upgrading a Sainsmart Genmitsu 3018-PROVer with a 3040 Y axis Extension, an aluminium spindle holder and a 500 Watt spindle motor. Sainsmart 20% discount code BFD20 3040 Y-Axis Extension Kit Sainsmart bit.ly/3fXDp5R Amazon US amzn.to/3wNCnPZ Amazon UK amzn.to/326E1Oi 3040 MDF Spoilboard Sainsmart bit.ly/3wJMtkQ Amazon UK amzn.to/2QfI6xa 3040 Aluminum Spoilboard bit.ly/3taay1W Aluminum Spindle Holder 3018-PROVer bit.ly/3mzAhhQ Aluminum Spindle Holder 3018-PRO bit.ly/3mFLKwj 500W Spindle motor www.banggood.com/custlink/33vtKR7QJT 500W Spindle motor www.banggood.com/custlink/mv35KYwnHd Amazon 500W spindle motor amzn.to/3UPS9X2 8 hole 2040 joining plates bit.ly/3eckqSr Laser kit bit.ly/3ga4XFp 3018-PROVer bit.ly/31YfEm3 Dust boot files www.techydiy.org/3018-prover-cnc-dust-boot/ These are affiliate links. If you click on one and purchase something, I might receive a small commission. It doesn't cost you anything extra, but it does help me to make more videos. 00:00 Introduction 00:28 Dismantle 3018 01:32 Assemble Y Axis 02:13 MDF Spoilboard 04:08 Candle 04:28 Level Spoilboard 04:57 Cut Plywood 05:20 Laser 05:38 Aluminium Spoilboard 07:25 Cut Plywood 07:56 Aluminium Spindle Holder 08:54 500W Spindle Motor 09:54 Cut Plywood 10:24 Tensegrity 10:46 Cut Aluminium 11:57 Height Increase 13:39 Review
What a great video. Nice production, well organized, clear speech. It all helped to concentrate on the subject matter - that super nice desktop Sainsmart CNC. Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's nice to see all these upgrades in action.
Thanks for doing this excellent tutorial. It was a great help to me and I would never have come up with the solution to raise the Z height like you did. I did take the easy option and bought the plates from Amazon rather than make my own though. 👍🏻
Watched you're fantastic videos and now have installed a larger table from Sainsmart. 300 X 360mm Could you please tell me the $130 - $131 - $132 settings plus how far did you move the gantry. Thank you Please stay safe. Bill M8-)
Z axis upgrade makes the machine less ridged, extrusions have a roundness to their faces and your holding them in place with 2 leaf springs on each side so that bad boy will rock like its on the sea. Is it enough to really matter? depends on application
lets upgrade make it longer rod and same acme thread. it just flex more. even 12mm linear rail is better it flex only that much how much thing you skrew it flex lol if you skrew it on granite it wont flex lol. noh lets just have 12mm round rod in middle it not flex? lol
This is incredible thank you! Excited to get mine in a couple days and you just got me more jacked to receive it with all of these badass upgrades that I can do!
these types of aluminium bracket is actually a good heat dissipator, i managed to install 2 water blocks to the sides and works incredible well. i know in a dc motor cooling the armature is not the best, but it works way better than expected.
Bravo on your height fix! Love it when people think outside the shipping box! Only thing I am wondering is why not mount the bed rails out further away from the center axis, for more support, and stiffness?
Excellent video, I would like to make a modification, but I would like to know how far I could extend the x, y, and z axes. I would also like to know if the values that changed $131=315, if previously above it indicates $131=158 that means that the previous value was 158?
hello i have just carefully watch your video i am having some problem to find what distance from rear or front where to place my colum could you hel me my 3018 is a Vevor 3018 Thank you and congratulations for yor wonderful video
Hi, ima jeweller and wanting to be able to do some simple engraving on flat pendants etc with basic fonts. Would I be able to do this with this machine on gold and silver? Thanks
Thank's for your video : i'll notice the link! I re-designed the electronic parts of the 3010 because i find it too weak and no electrical keys anywhere can bring several electric damages to the machine. I have 2 questions: 1/ Is the 3040 stronger or better than the 3010? 2/ And may we do the same thing with the 3010? Does anybody knows? Thank You!
Are the original stepper motors strong enough to handle the added weight and torque of the spindle motor? Do you get any layer shifting during carving?
⚙ je suis en train de modifier la mienne en 6060 j'ai hâte de la finir pour voir le résultat et la conclusion finale. Si la version 6060 me convient en terme mécanique je la passe à 1000x1000 😉👌
Merci beaucoup pour cette vidéo ! Le résultat est vraiment satisfaisant !!!! Bravo ! Et merci aussi pour tous les liens pour faire la modif ! Super !!! Thank you very much for this video ! The result is really satisfying !!!! Well done ! And thank you also for all the links to make the change! Great !!!
Thank you for a great video!!! It helped me a lot!!! I just added the 3040 extension to my 3018 Prover. I have a question : How far must I move the gantry forward on the 2040 rails from the original 3018 original position? I installed it in the original 3018 position and it appears to be about 30mm too far back. I also plan to use the old 2040 rails to "lift" the Z axis higher up since I added the 3040 spoil board with the extra aluminum bed piece.
go to Amazon or go to the Sainsmart website. I haven't purchased yet and have been reviewing many different comparable cnc's. So far I'm betting on Sainsmart to win based upon price competetiveness and on quality of the build, etc... To date after all that I've viewed they truly appear to be tops in this space.
I am in the middle of doing this same upgrade but, I discovered that the Z axis limit switch is hard wired to the assembly with a tree prong plug on the control board end - on the assembly I am removing. But, the new assembly requires a wire with plugs on each end. Did you have that problem? If so, how did you fix it? I don't want to have to cut the wire from the old assembly and try to solder it to the new one. Thanks, I like the video.
Good job and great video, I think the Y axis will do the wobbling. if I have to extend the Y axis I will use the SBR16 or 12 linear guide or convert the rod from 12 mm to 16 mm.
It needs to be positioned such that the the spindle is in the centre of the table travel. So move the table to the centre of its travel and then set the spindle into the centre of the table.
@@techydiy Thanks for the details. So, if we position the table in the center of frame and x axis in the middle, the spindle has to be at the center of the table. Did I get that right?
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos as it's very much appreciated. Is it possible to answer two questions for me please. 1 The new upgraded motor came with a power output unit but I don't know which of the live/motor terminal goes where as it in Chinese caricatures. 2 What is the size of the metal box. and where did you get it please. Thank you . Please stay safe . Bill M8-) Haddington
1. You can get a camera app on your phone that translates Chinese 2. 9" x 6" x 3" Adaptable box with knockouts. It was just one I that I already had. I would just get any Aluminium / Steel project box. www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Products/BX963.html k
Hello! I was wondering if u know whether the y extension kit is compatible with the prover v2 or just the original… can’t find any information anywhere. Thank you in advance.
this is a very clear concise well laid out video, thank you i would like to add this extra area to my cnc 3018 howhere mine is the Banggood 3018 Mini Cnc Router. do you think all the pieces will still fit. Thanks again. sorry if this has been answered before but i couldn't find it.
QUESTION: Under the table - the Y-axis brass nut that has the spring behind it - this Y-axis brass nut is not screwed into the plastic housing - so, does the lead screw nut not get screwed to the housing? (not much to screw to).
Hello! Can you help me, please? I got my machine. I wanted to use the Easel software but the spindle doesn't want to run? What is the problem? The jog is moving.
@@techydiy And another thing, please. I have just started to use my machine for a day. I will discover it but I don't understand one important thing. I design the form etc. I set up the zero from the corner, and the machine is starting to work not like on the animation for example like at the Christmas tree- up. Instead of it come to a wrong place down towards me, like a reflection. What is the problem? Thank you for it.
Sounds like the y axis is travelling in the wrong direction. If that is the case you need to change the $3 direction port invert mask setting in grbl. Grbl $3 direction port invert mask documentation is here: github.com/gnea/grbl/wiki/Grbl-v1.1-Configuration#3--direction-port-invert-mask From the console in your gcode sender (candle, ugs etc.) Type $$ - This will list the current grbl settings Look for the value of $3 Then use the table just above $3 in the documentation to work out new value. To change the value Type $3=2 (or whatever value you determined) into the console.
hmm, me suggests 3D printing the dust chute. Otherwise Impressive upgrade - I want one 🙂 To be able to swap out router with Laser is awesome me thinks.
I think for a channel like this showing one you can make with teh machine itself is a great idea (but yeah - it you have one a 3d printer would be easier lol)
Hi,finally I have the need to use now the expansion ordered a while ago. Anyhow - I was thinking of replacing the Spindle as well. What I want to ask is: Can I use the spindle speed commands like I used in the original spindle? OR do I need to turn on the spindle with the potentiometer on the new external powersupply? I am using the MACH3 version for the 3014 Prover Thanks for your feedback!
It is possible to connect some spindle power supplies to the control pcb to allow speed control. It depends on where you get the spindle. The spindle power supply that I used is pretty difficult to connect due to high voltages. The Sainsmart one is probably easier. Someone made a video about it. Personally I don't think having program speed control is worth the effort with a 12k spindle.
Which speed and which tool is best to use for 3mm aluminium maschining it to a extruder carriage for my 3d printer. can i use cutting bit with 2 flute or better 4 flute?
It's not a spoilboard, its part of the table. A spoilboard is a disposable sheet on the top of the table bed. Sainsmart use the wrong terminology for this (in my opinion)
have built the machine as your did in your video. The only thing not done is making four plats to raise the cutter. Since this is my first CNC would you be able to supply the templet?
After you installed the Y extension kit, did you notice the table/build plate become more ‘flimsy’ ? I installed the extension kit, and the new linear rails, are not any bigger in diameter.. and wen u push on the corner of the table/build plate, it will move a 1/4 inch, and you can see the linear rails bow.. really not liking that.. trying to cut aluminum parts..
It's was pretty much the same as before the upgrade. Cut in the middle or add some linear rails or I think some people have added some 3d printed edge supports.
@@techydiy yea. I found a place out in Colorado that sells a 12mm linear rail upgrade for the 3018.. both in standard 3018 length, and the length of the extended Y axis upgrade.. they also sell the matching 12mm bearing mounts at the right height, and their bearing mounts are also longer, and have 2 bearings in each mount, so it’s easier to get the bed & rails aligned so you don’t get that drag or “crunchy” harsh movement of the Y axis.. I’m now debating with myself, weather just the 12mm upgrade will be enough, or if I should add 2 more 12mm linear rails toward the outsides of the bed.
Hello, I also have such a motor (48V). It was working before, but yesterday, while scraping wood, the motor had a hard time and suddenly stopped. Now it doesn't work at all. I measured it with a multimeter. There is electricity (48V) at the output of the PWM driver and the positive and negative terminals of the motor are powered, but the motor does not move. What do you think might be causing the problem?
I had a similar issue, but the symptom was after the scraping incident, the feed rates became incredibly slow. Eventually I did a $RST and then reestablished the original settings.
500W Spindle motor www.banggood.com/custlink/33vtKR7QJT or 500W Spindle motor www.banggood.com/custlink/mv35KYwnHd or Amazon 500W spindle motor amzn.to/3UPS9X2 All the same.
I am just getting into CNC looking at the 3018 would like much bigger room so this upgrade to a 3040 sounds amazing! Do these upgrade apply to any 3018 cnc? There are all sorts of different name brands and what not that all look very much alike....
Ever seen this one? Even after carefully calibrating the XYZ axes my 3018-PROVer and using the Z-probe on every setup, it consistently cuts between 2mm and 3mm deeper than what is called out (using an end mill with a 1/8" shank - the goal is to get a cut 1mm deep in 3mm stock but no luck). Everything else seems to be working accurately across multiple test files in VCarve Pro 10.5, UGS, and Candle but they all produce much deeper cuts than what I'm instructing the CNC make. Cheers
I think I would start by manually jogging the machine z axis up and down by 1mm, 2mm, 10mm etc. and seeing if it actually moves that amount. Also see if you have any play in the z axis.
@@techydiy Thanks. Yeah, I tried that and it's all tight and jogging against a digital depth gauge is 1:1. No idea why it overshoots by so much when doing an actual job =\
@@techydiy Found it! There is an option in VTransfer for X-Carve -- I ignored it because I don't know what X-Carves is -- that allows you to specify the height of your Z-probe as well as a default move rate. Both values were too large and after adjusting them I'm getting the proper depth. Thanks again
There are some links in the video description. Or you can find several designs by searching for "3dprint dust shoe" Or you can find a few on etsy Thanks
@@techydiy Thank you. I specifically meant a dust shoe for the 500 watt spindle in this vid, its 52mm i believe, I've found a few design I can cut myself.
@@techydiy Oh, yes. Pretty annoying. Finally my option was to leave nuts on every slot so I simple screw the clamp where I need it. 😊 Thank you very much for the clear directions on this upgrade, BTW .
Hello Sir, maybe you can help me, i am having some issue with my 3040 (regular 3018 with extension kit) Genmitsu.. I am using carbide create for the G-code, but the G code when run to GRBL pause right away...i have to press the pause on the GRBL for the program to run... please advise ... thankyou
You can edit the gcode with a text editor. This is the offending line "M0 ;T102" just delete it. The post processor is fixed so nothing useful can be changed there.
Hello. really good video. I live in the uk and was just wondering how much this cost you. I think it would be a good upgrade for my 3018 prover. Cheers.
i cant seem to remove the original lead screw from the stepper motor. I removed the 2 tiny screws farther from the motor but the screw seems to be stuck. do i have to remove the other two screws closer to the motor? the old screw doesnt seem to budge. is it also screwed into the coupler or just inserted and held together by the tiny 2 screws?
@@techydiy yep. had to use a few plyers to take it out. scuffed up the coupler a bit but its alright. Also i just finished adding the extension and noticed the new extended screw is not straight when spinning and is alot louder compared to the original. looked straight preinstall. is it just because of the length that there is a lot more up/down movement in the screw? or a bad screw altogether?
Another great video that has helped me a lot in using my Sainsmart 3018 PROVer . Do you know where I can buy the nuts shown in the video at 12.48m to make the height extension?
The reason I watched this video was to know how much it cost in the end for this development. But nothing was explained in this regard. Can you please answer this?
