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Not only is coding on an ipad pro doable, it was a much better programming experience than I expected. That said, I don't plan to give up my m1 macbook pro anytime soon. The ipad pro could handle software development in a pinch, but I would not want to have it be my main tool for code.
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@jamescross 2 года назад

Why you won't become a programmer in 2022: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-NefYN6om6x0.html

@DoseOfDev 3 года назад

Your production quality is amazing for your subscriber count ! Keep it up you’ll have a lot more in no time !

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks Deveyn! appreciate the feedback!

@TreasureIess 2 года назад

Agreed Its truly great content

@AkaiKnight 2 года назад

I’m interested in it because I want to test whether or not having a more minimal environment will increase my productivity and stop me from getting distracted by things.

@christianlopez-aguila2454 3 года назад

Currently a Junior in high school with a huge interest in software development, and I'm gonna be taking two classes to learn coding this year. Just bought an iPad and an Apple Pen, I'm so freaking excited to learn this year!

@jamescross 3 года назад

That's awesome!

@xzunu5640 3 года назад

Bro me tooo

@xzunu5640 3 года назад

Bro can we learn together? Tell me how to chat with u

@rudrabharadwaj5947 3 года назад

@@xzunu5640 wait, are you an absolute beginner?

@xzunu5640 3 года назад

No I'm not literally a beginner but I have the basics

@adam-the-dev 3 года назад

Hey man, great video. I've done backend development through SSH on my iPad Pro, as I just use nvim + tmux on my desktop anyways. That was fine, but you're right about keyboard options not being so good. Nice thinking for frontend development. I had tried a VNC connection but it was too laggy for me. Maybe in another year or so there will be better options. This is an area that I feel Microsoft got it "right" with their Surface book. Carry around a functional laptop, but then pull the screen off and it goes into tablet mode. Wish we had that in Apple land!!

@jamescross 3 года назад

great info! totally agree on the surface. would be cool to have an apple version.

@dstinnettmusic 2 года назад

Wow. I watched another video on this exact topic today, and dude went out of his way to avoid actually coding on an iPad. I respect that you found a way. Obviously isn’t ideal, but I can imagine a workflow where you have a main desktop but to “get away” but still allow productivity you use the iPad for coding in other locations or for tinkering in your off time.

@altraacegaming 2 года назад

Heyy man pls reply me shortly.. Do I use ipad pro M1 to learn coding language eg c,c++,java,javascript, python,etc Edit..... simply go For Mackbook got my ans, thanks you.

@mmmjamm1 3 года назад

Underrated channel. You deserve more subs.

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks juan!

@pravinthokal7629 3 года назад

Here’s a comment for the algorithm. You deserve way more subs

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks! appreciate it!

@RobertLeather 10 месяцев назад

3:50 Option 4 - Using connect to a Raspberry Pi that you have with you. SSH onto it or connect via a Remote Desktop. Maybe even run something like Docker on it and get VS Code in the brower running from it.

@TheStracky Год назад

Thanks for pointing out all the available options

@keanu3260 3 года назад

Dude that power outage sound scared the shit out of me!

@jamescross 3 года назад

wasn't my intention but that's kinda funny. thanks for sharing!

@TrueBlackArrow 2 месяца назад

Hello from Rio de Janeiro! Which apps do you recommend for coding on iPad 9? I’m now studying a Front-End course and I use the iPad for many things in my day, like study for my collegge and another courses.

@jamescross 2 месяца назад

e aí? Overall it wasn’t a great development experience so I haven’t kept up with current options.

@TrueBlackArrow 2 месяца назад

Hello again! I just discovered an app called Replit, I saw that supports several programming languages and connects with Git and GitHub. I even made a commit now uploading my first job of the Frontend course involving a link to RU-vid videos in HTML5.

@emerald.sapphire.amethyst72 2 года назад

Like the video, but I do have a question, if I wanted to just use my iPad Pro to develop apps and things, is that actually possible, and other than your advice to use the MacBook Pro, do you have any other suggestions as to what programs are best used all around to incorporate accessibility without leaving a function ability and creativity?

@jamescross 2 года назад

there is no straight answers to these questions because so much depends on what it is you will be building. there are a lot of things that just can't be done well on an ipad due to how apple controls the ecosystem. personally, i would take an inexpensive windows laptop over an ipad for software development, but that's me.

@germanoutdoors7096 2 года назад

Well switched my complete dev environment to a cloud vps (ubuntu server), installed code-server and developing dotnet core, vuejs apps in my browser. My benefits are: I can switch to another machine and my dev environment is the same as before. I can reinstall my machine without having to reconfigure everything, i can code on my tablet if needed. The best thing about code-server is that i have my full setup with docker, cli tools and so on. As soon as i push my code the main branch, the ci/cd pipeline will deploy to test and live server. Maybe this is an option for anyone.

@jamescross 2 года назад

thanks for sharing your setup!

@dozorengel 2 года назад

If you code on your tablet, how'd you open devtools in the browser?

@IT-Entrepreneur 2 года назад

@@dozorengel unfortunatly This is Not possible and i dont have a solution for this yet. I would Not recommend using a Tablet aus primary programming device. But for on The Go i its quite good enough.

@User-mm6uu 3 года назад

Appreciate this. Hopefully ios15 helps on this issue.

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks for watching!

@pimpthelimp 3 года назад

Dude, tell me, I am on my way to the Apple Store to get an iPad Pro 12.9. What keyboard should I get, the case? The magic seems not right. Hence why I am going to store to get a feel. I also need good high speed RDP. Like you, I want to be on the go, I am outside a lot. But I want to basically use it for personal use and for getting native app prototypes, demos, testing before committing to investing in a Mac devices.

@jamescross 3 года назад

Hey Hector! Honestly, it was fun to try out, but I kinda view coding on an ipad as a casual last resort thing. The more I think about it, the less likely I am to bother with it. The basic m1 macbook air with a 16gb memory upgrade is only $100 more than the base ipad pro 12.9". If I could have only one, I would go for the macbook air. still super light weight and portable. let me know what you end up going with.

@punkgrl325 3 года назад

I love the Snugg case + keyboard. Got mine five years ago, and it’s still great, super sturdy, and the keyboard still works perfectly fine, no lag or anything. They also come with a lifetime warranty. At the time, they were only around 30 bucks, but they’re like $60-$70 now. Still worth every penny imho.

@pimpthelimp 2 года назад

@@jamescross Ha! Just seeing these replies now. yes, I discovered that right away! I got the iPad Pro but returned it once I saw the companion Magic keyboard does not work in PORTRAIT Mode!! Apple needs to address that because that alone, along with what you said (Premature for coding), along with advice from other developers, I returned it within a few days and got the MacBook Pro M1/1TB and wow wow wow! I LOVE IT! I will get the iPad Pro at some point The MBP is my first Apple computer and I am absolutely thrilled with the decision to start with the Apple PC first for development. I love XCODE!!! Thanks!! :-)

@pimpthelimp 2 года назад

@@punkgrl325 Definitely keeping a note of this. I went with the MacBook Pro for now. See my reply to Devsmark. I appreciate your input. :-)

@madmansgamingVK 2 года назад

Hey bro! I am a college student and i am currently studying BCA its all about programming and can i buy ipad 9 for programming? 🙃 and i want to lear c c++ python etc! Is it possible to do all these thing for free in ipad 9?

@jamescross 2 года назад

Imo, coding on an ipad isn't that pleasant or productive. Can't speak specifically to those specific language on an ipad because I did not try them. There are lots of gaps depending on the programming language, so probably worth it to do some good research before buying an ipad for programming. I personally would take a cheap laptop over an ipad but that's me.

@madmansgamingVK 2 года назад

@@jamescross thanks for ur opinion man! ❤

@driptanildatta3703 3 года назад

See I bought a iPad instead of an laptop 💻, i am college student 👨‍🎓 . I never ever thought that you can do light editing but not coding!! Can you help how I use VS code without workspaces from google or amazon? Plz help me

@jamescross 3 года назад

you can use vs code if you do option 3. trying to set up your own environment is more complex on the ipad than on a macbook and probably not worth the effort. i started looking into it but concluded the three options i share in the video are the better options and the only ones i would consider for my frontend development projects. i just don’t see an ipad being an effective replacement for a laptop for most software development.

@peat381low8 2 года назад

Great video. I am a accounting major but was interested if my 2018 iPad Pro can handle programming. I want it to do it all but it's the ram that keeps refreshing everything if I leave an app for too long. It's not bad but hoping the next upgrade will have less apps refreshing when returning to them like on a Mac

@jamescross 2 года назад

Depends on area of programming. Ipads aren't ideal for coding.

@Misha-hv6mx 4 месяца назад

Hey I just bought an iPad Air M1, I have a good enough laptop (windows) which I use for all my software dev needs but I got the iPad for class so that I can make notes and code as well all in one device instead of carrying too much stuff. How can I make use of my iPad in classes like oop and dsa

@Luis_all_day 2 года назад

Thank you very much 5 stars

@walkermars4135 2 года назад

Hey i wanna say that I'm 18 years old and my mom is telling me to take a laptop for coding purposes but i really want an ipad pro because I can do graphics design as well as coding is ipad pro soo should I take an ipad or will I regret??

@jamescross 2 года назад

With an iPad you can make some things work but some areas of development are a no go. And it's painful compared to a laptop. I would get a laptop before getting an iPad. I try things out on the iPad for fun, but I would never use it for coding on a regular basis.

@christianlopez-aguila2454 3 года назад

Also, love the production quality in this video! But I don't know if it's just me but the B-Roll and iPad shots you took came out sort of dark and I had to turn up my brightness. Don't know if that's just my eyes acting up though haha!

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks. yeah shot that a little dark. looked fine on my monitor but too dark on my phone. :)

@m1iles 3 года назад

Hey first of all, this video is really good. Second I just wanted to ask on your opinion about remote controlling a pc from far away. I am thinking of buying a Logitech combo touch and then rc into my pc and use it. My office has really good internet (1gbit/s at home and in office) do you think that it would run smoothly with jump desktop?

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks. can't say for sure as i no longer have a pc to test it on. if jump desktop has a windows version of the app, i imagine it will work fine.

@m1iles 3 года назад

@@jamescross thanks for your input

@tanmoybhattacharjee8240 Год назад

Any other newer or better option ? With Remote Desktop, working with multi workspace, and changing is not possible

@ErenJeager-pp7nk 3 года назад

Here before this guy blows up!

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks Eren!

@ErenJeager-pp7nk 3 года назад

@@jamescross Your welcome!!!

@ErenJeager-pp7nk 3 года назад

@@jamescross (btw. In case you didn’t know, Eren Jeager isn’t my name. It is the guy in the pictures name. Pretty sure you know that tho)

@jamescross 3 года назад

lol. my bad :)

@ErenJeager-pp7nk 3 года назад

@@jamescross Its fine. Not everyone watches anime! 😂

@MohaDesu 3 года назад

Oh my god all this good content and less than a thousand subs ?? I didnt even knew thatt i literally thought u on 1mil subs at least

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks for the feedback! are you just getting into software development or have you been doing it for awhile?

@MohaDesu 3 года назад

@@jamescross i have a slight interest in it

@jamescross 3 года назад

that’s cool. if you have any questions, i am happy to help where i can.

@MohaDesu 3 года назад

@@jamescross thanks a bunch

@sejal5398 3 года назад

Hey thanks the video was very helpful. Can you tell if there is an inspect element on iPad

@jamescross 3 года назад

Play.js has it's own in app source code viewer and dev tools but it's not going to be the same experience as chrome dev tools. With the remote desktop you would use a normal browser inspector.

@hesamnegini1565 3 года назад

hi, thanks for video what is name app?

@jamescross 3 года назад

you’re welcome. i mentioned multiple options in the video with their names. depends on the approach you want.

@Jooeyization 3 года назад

Hey man great video. I wanted to ask what was the background music for this vid?

@jamescross 3 года назад

I don't remember the name. It's from artlist. I don't save my project files, so I can't look it up quick but I plan to reorganize the music I use so I will watch for it and let you know.

@jamescross 3 года назад

spoke too soon. found it. it is "joy" by alex keren from artlist. i did a little eq to lower some frequencies to not clash with my voice as much.

@symbiotic_sim 2 года назад

I have a good data plan, could I use the iPad Pro 4th gen to code? I can search all the apps you use and whether they work on the 4th gen tbf and I’m imagine they will?

@jamescross 2 года назад

if you already have one, you could try it. it is fine to learn on but for serious development the other limitations are more important than the data plan aspect. it's just hard to be as productive on it as you can be with a laptop.

@berkefekeskin9172 2 года назад

i couldnt find play.js can someone help me?

@jamescross 2 года назад

Looks like they changed the name to CodeSandbox. I just added a note in the description. Thanks.

@redkitsuni5421 2 года назад

Hello! I’m a software engineering student, we have courses like calculus where we have to write a lot and do a lot of math work. We also have courses where we rely on coding, like the Structures and Algorithms of a database which is basically learning programming languages. Since my major involves me writing down a lot and also a lot of programming, should I still go with an iPad or should I just get a laptop and try to write down calculus even though it envolves a lot of multitasking?

@jamescross 2 года назад

honestly a laptop is more practical for software.

@megaboy2811 2 года назад

Personally I am also a software engineering student and currently in the 4th semester and 1.5 years ago I faced the exact same decision. While I do have an iPad Pro I haven't tried coding on it, I use another laptop for that. If you have the money, then that would also be my recommended setup. The Apple Pencil and iPad is very useful for taking notes, but for coding you definitely need a proper laptop, so if you have to choose one I would go with the laptop. Keep in mind that the iPad Pro is extremely overkill for notetaking and I can't come up with a single thing you couldn't do on the regular iPad for just a third of the price instead. You can get a good laptop and normal iPad (or maybe even iPad Air) for less than the big iPad Pro and still get the best of both worlds. If you have any questions, feel free to ask

@redkitsuni5421 2 года назад

@@megaboy2811 yeah, that’s what I’ve been thinking. The thing is, I have a gamer pc at home and I usually just code over there, whilst at Uni, I just constantly write down what my teachers say, I think I may go for the iPad Air 4th gen for now and invest later in a laptop, may I ask, what laptop do you have?

@megaboy2811 2 года назад

@@redkitsuni5421 Oh my workplace is providing me the laptop for my studies so I can't even really tell you which one it is, seems to be a really generic Dell one with an i5. The iPad Air is definitely a good choice and the only reason to go for the iPad Pro instead would be the bigger size (12.9 inch) so maybe test them both out first in an Apple Store or something if thats a concern. In my opinion the Air will be perfectly fine for taking notes, but you might want the bigger one if you plan on doing a lot of multitasking (so having two windows open at the same time). I find myself doing that rarely with like lecture on one side and notes on the other, but obviously this might vary for you depending on your workflow. Regarding laptops I think any 400$ laptop would probably suffice for some simple programming tasks if you're not home, for anything else you will probably just use your gaming pc instead, especially if you have multiple monitors. Personally for that reason I find programming on a laptop really uncomfortable, because not only do you have one screen, its also really small. Despite that a laptop might become necessary in your studies at some point, so keep that in mind.

@redkitsuni5421 2 года назад

@@megaboy2811 thanks so much for the feedback, gotta look into investing in these tools with my internship money 😅

@SuperiorManchu 3 года назад

Subscribed, mate I am in high school year 11 just started learning my first language C# on my gaming laptop which is really heavy and I don’t wanna carry it around from home to school . I am currently using an older version IPad Pro (2017) with an alternative keyboard, is it possible for me to code on my IPad rather than laptop.

@SuperiorManchu 3 года назад

Also add on to that I was learning C# to work with Unity, my l laptop would definitely be my main learning device, but just wanted to get some more practice done while I have free time at school or on my way home.

@jamescross 3 года назад

Since you already have it, you might as well try it. I was able to get it to work for front-end development. Others have reported problems some of the compiled languages. It really is hit or miss depending on the stack. Here is my followup video to this one: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r8iB9CNirDU.html

@jamescross 3 года назад

You might be able to find a C# learning / playground app for the ipad. Not sure about handling unity. It's a good idea to look for ways to practice. I think your plan to use the laptop as your main device is wise.

@SuperiorManchu 3 года назад

@@jamescross thanks for your recommendation.

@khantkhant1972 3 года назад

can run android studio on i pad pro m1?

@jamescross 3 года назад

not sure.

@avar1058 2 года назад

If I buy iPad pro 2021 12.9inch m1, can I learn and use html or Java on ipad pro m1?!

@jamescross 2 года назад

you can learn html. java would be a challenge. i would not buy an ipad with the plan to code on it. just not a good experience and very limiting.

@avar1058 2 года назад

@@jamescross I'm not a programmer but I want to go to software engineering university but I want to learn something before I go to college that's why I'm asking if I buy iPad pro m1 an I learn html?! so what do you recommend?!

@jamescross 2 года назад

a laptop. could be a macbook air or even a more affordable windows laptop with 16gb ram. ipads are nice for something’s but painful for any actual development. some apps for playing with basic code are alright but it’s not really suited for decent size projects.

@mohdyasir1424 3 года назад

So, can we built a website via coding on iPad

@jamescross 3 года назад

yes but you are limited to a few frameworks and configurations

@mohdyasir1424 2 года назад

So, can you tell me which software or app should I download ( and how ) on my iPad

@revangozelov3388 2 года назад

How I can download it for my iPad 9?

@jamescross 2 года назад

The apps I showed was available on the app store.

@JadeWinters02 2 года назад

Remember when Gavin Belson from silicon valley suggested his programmers code on their phones. He was mocking them on a low level.

@jamescross 2 года назад

can't image it on a phone. so little space. now maybe with a second phone as an external monitor... j/k

@044mohammadshadab2 2 года назад

My first priority is graphic design ...2nd priority simple coding and web developing? Should I buy?? For both work

@jamescross 2 года назад

it's fun to design stuff with an ipad. you gotta be the one to decide if it will be worth it for you. best wishes with the decision.

@emilvmonteiro 3 года назад

great video!

@jamescross 3 года назад

thanks

@jamescross 3 года назад

Followup 1 month later. Was it worth it? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-r8iB9CNirDU.html

@RavarsenBlogspot 2 года назад

Full online it is

@r351574nc3 Год назад

Title should be, "Coding on an iPad Pro like it were desktop." I came here hoping for a desktop alternative approach, but the approach was constrained to thinking like a normal development environment on a desktop system (but mobile). I'm looking for different thinking. Also, flip-flopping on frontend web dev with distributed tools (git/github) vs cord cutting seems to be self-defeating. Pick a lane. Either work completely unwired or work connected. If you're going to work connected, of course, there will be issues with connectivity. That's what developers already deal with day-to-day. It's not a strong enough reason not to be connected unless that's what you're shooting for. Also, I use so many online resources as a developer that if I did lose connectivity, I'm still barely functional even if I have access to all my systems. This video is just confirmation bias for all those that think it's not possible. I'm looking for a video by someone that actually tries to make this work.

@jamescross Год назад

Let me know if you find a good workflow. I was looking to see what was out there and it seems you have to be very reliant on apps that provide the infrastructure you need for serious development and that is hit or miss depending on what languages and frameworks you need to use. I like the flexibility to choose the tools that best help me solve a problem and avoid circumstances where a device restricts what I can do. For my case building single page web applications, it's just too limiting and adds too much friction so I do most everything on laptop. I want a workflow that improves my efficiency, not slows me down. If you are building simple stuff, it may be possible to make it work but for more complex systems, an ipad isn't worth it imo. For what it's worth, I've mostly worked at large enterprise type companies and I don't know of a single coworker who codes on an iPad. Best wishes.

@r351574nc3 Год назад

@@jamescross I really want this to be a thing. No huge monitor. No keyboard. No mouse. I am looking to attempt this with an ipad mini wifi+cellular. I have been using vscode server to do cross-platform development on my m2 using tunneling. I have been coding with my voice using talon. I have not done this yet, but I want to see if vscode server + talon vscode extension will work. If it does, then I can probably code purely by voice using talon, vscode, and ipad voice controls. I think it woudl be great to be able to carry the power of my entire home workspace in my back pocket with an ipad mini. I think this may become really popular when/if mixed reality glasses make entry. Anyway, this video has just made up my mind to get an ipad mini and attempt this.

@jamescross Год назад

That would be really cool. Let me know how it goes.

@kiq654 Год назад

Desktop is for now only best tool one can have. Its (should be) be always superior to laptop that is superior to tablet. Tablet is generally used by kids to watch movies and old folk to manage daily business. Its not intended for any serious work and probably wont be in near future. Make app that makes for example designing microshipping more fluent than on powerful software made for pc for example. If you see potential in touching screen try and implement yourself. I see very little value for any serious coding. If you do make your own language purely for mobile end. Like dart but that uses speech? You go girl and until than dont be f**king imbecile and go use actual machine designed to be everything and not just to be storage for unsent dickpicks.

@SunnyandNova Год назад

@@kiq654 oh you’re way behind

@LoriWolfcat 3 года назад

I wanna code iOS apps, so what could be the setup for that?

@jamescross 3 года назад

you could try swift playgrounds

@LoriWolfcat 3 года назад

@@jamescross Oh mi gosh, thanks!! It’s such a fun tool! With coding android apps, is there something similar to Swift Playgrounds, where you get to really play with it? And with code editors, it lists all coding languages it has, so if a coding language isn’t listed, does it mean it wouldn’t run when you try to run it? Cuz I’m a little confused about why a code editor wouldn’t have each language. Is software development making actual applications for computers? I wish they would make a better word differentiating “app” for phone and “applications” for computers. Also, Another word for “applications” for jobs. Haha hopefully one day!

@LoriWolfcat 3 года назад

@@jamescross Or how to convert iOS to android.

@jamescross 3 года назад

@@LoriWolfcat Some editors are open source others are private. You could write code in a plain old text app, but code editors provide useful tools like code snippet hints and the ability to click on a function and jump to the page where the function is defined. It takes a lot of work to do this for each language so usually they focus on more popular languages or one language in particular. also some apps like ios have their own special requirements like xcode and you can run into license issues. so many different reasons for it. as for software development, that is a high level description of what we do. native apps would be those that run on an operating system whether on desktop or device. There are also web apps (web development). You can even build apps using web technologies and deploy them onto devices which are called hybrid apps. Each of these areas can be broken down into smaller specializations.

@jamescross 3 года назад

@@LoriWolfcat I'm not sure about that. That is one of the appeals of hybrid apps because you build it in one language and deploy to ios and android. the downside is there can be hits to performance and the user experience won't be quite the same as native apps. you could look at something like react native for this.the last time i worked on a hybrid app was several years ago, so they have probably improved.

@francute2u 3 года назад

any local IDE supports Angular on ipads?

@jamescross 3 года назад

everything i do now is in react so it wasn't really on my mind to look for angular compatible stuff. to have it local might be tough. let me know if you find something that works. have a great day!

@melwyncastelino7716 2 года назад

react native in this one ?

@jamescross 2 года назад

I didn't try react native but their website says: React Native 0.59.0 apps bundling and execution.

@melwyncastelino7716 2 года назад

@@jamescross i have macbook air given by office . going for microsoft surface go 2

@arvincasupanan6481 2 года назад

macbook air would be nice

@jamescross 2 года назад

i would opt for that over an ipad for programming.

@jonathankey1533 2 года назад

I’m trying to figure out how to code for ios without buying a mac

@stevelin8892 3 года назад

Can’t figure out why you have very few subscribers

@jamescross 3 года назад

I could probably do a better job asking for subscribers, but I'm still on the fence about that. Just feels like it distracts from the videos more than I like. Thanks for watching!