Coffee, Bandiero, Szyc: A DeCastro Discussion 

Somewhat confrontational? He was hostile and belligerent. It's a well established fact through his own video recordings that decastro conducts himself in a most unhinged manner and that is going to get him painted as a hostile threat and an unknown by officers at the time of the interaction.

Chille has lost 75% of his RU-vid income since his arrest.

This lady is the prime example of why people despise attorneys.

Chille puts the 'con' in Chille Concarne.

What these people don’t understand is that Chille doesn’t actually have 500,000+ subscribers on his RU-vid channel, & it has been proven that he buys his subs. It shows clearly when you look at his video views, and the amount of people who attend his livestreams. When you have 500,000+ subs, and your livestreams only generate 40-50 viewers, you certainly don’t have 500,000+ subscribers. Chille is a cop-baiter, and a bully. He bullys people that aren’t supposed to defend themselves or fight back. He baits cops for negative interactions, and clicks & views. I believe 100% that if RU-vid didn’t monetize his page, or pages like his, he wouldn’t behave in this manner.

Chille wouldn't have any of his current problems if he wasn't begging for a confrontation with the cops, or trying to piss off the judge during his hearings. Say whatever you want about constitutionality, but he's clearly his own worst enemy.

Legally, there is a probably a case here in favour of the incarcerated but morally, this guy is beyond reprehensible. And if he wins his case, unfortunately, it will only make him worse and encourage others to follow.

Then did he have ineffective assistance of counsel? Is it possible that Atty Szyc could have obtained a different result? And, isn't Chili creating the story? He's causing the story - not reporting it.

His large audience includes paid for subscribers (look at subscribers vs views). Also he's not "performing a service", he purposely antagonizes. Actual 1A auditors (who actually ARE performing a service) don't involve themselves. Chillie is just looking for a payday through suing anyone he can.

Why are people so stuck on the distance? It was the way he was acting, the way he clearly was trying to get a rise out of the cop, he drove up and got out with the intention of disrupting that officer. Whether you are two feet away or twenty, you can still obstruct and harass, chillies favourite pastime when it comes to cops.

Lisa says Decastro was “not prepared for the consequences” but ONJ posted a post-hearing Interview where Chille explicitly said he was willing to be locked up and go through imprisonment “for all of you” if that’s what it took. So he was aware of consequences, he just apparently didn’t think it would actually happen to him.

What the hell is a constitutional drivers license? There’s no such thing that’s just a stall tactic, which is typical of a sovereign citizen.

21 foot rule. No confrontation with police while on a stop. Chille is escalating.

Just curious. Have any of these people viewed at least 5 of decastros' videos? Looked into his history of thumbing his nose to law and law enforcement? Noticed how many FTA decastro has had? The two warrants currently out for his arrest? Or how many frivolous law suits he has filed?

I'm not trying to insult you all but you got quite a few things wrong with this case. To keep it short; He didn't get the max sentence, he got half the max. Second; DeCastro was offered by the prosecutor Anger management, a fine and a suspended sentence and he declined it, so to say the sentence was unreasonable in my opinion is not true.

Are you kidding me? You don't think the arrest should have occurred? Have you ever made a traffic stop? You ever worry about someone having a gun and shooting you? When someone distracts you, it creates a reactionary gap; you can't respond to two people at once. The arrest should not only have happened, it should have happened sooner.

Would Ms. Szyc feel different if a person was allowed to stand 10 feet away from her while she's working and yelling at her while she's conducting her job? Would she be able to effectively do her job? Officers deserve to have the ability to create a safe scene.

I can't believe these people are giving 1st amendment auditors nonsense oxygen.. good Lord!

Do any of you 1AA supporters watch any news where LEO are ambushed or attacked when their backs are turned or they are shot in their cars, you see these news stories on YT news from stations across the country FFS! That’s why LEO have to be aware of what’s going on around them and they can’t let their guard down when some idiot is bad mouthing & distracting them as they’re filming at close proximity. Film from a distance, that’s perfectly legal and safer for those involved. Most times it’s all common sense stuff, unless you haven’t got any!

According to the Judge, he did not receive the maximum sentence as he claims, she gave him half of what the law said he could have received; 6 months on each charge for a year total.

Whether Chille was ten feet away or two feet away is not the point. The point is that he began talking with the driver that the officer pulled over; that's called interference in a traffic stop. When the officer told Chille to stop talking to the driver and back away, he refused and became instantly obstinate and confrontational. That is why he was arrested. How is it that Lisa Szyc doesn't understand this?

He belongs under the jail. All of these idiots with cameras if they just kept their mouth shut and filmed the police and followed their instructions I would be on board. But even before the LEO says anything Chille starts berating the cop for no reason. He deserves a long long time out.

I totally disagree with what the panel is saying. Even if you take the stance that he is press, the press has certain limits. One is that they do not inject themselves to create content. The officer had no problems with him filming. He stated that a few times. It was him walking up towards the car to interact with the person. Before any thing happens , a public safety service provider (law, fire, EMS) has the right to direct people to make a scene safe area. Bandiero was wrong about saying that public safety should not be afraid of every thing. It is called situational awareness. It is what brings everyone home safe even Chilly. Chillys actions caused this. He prevented the officer from doing his job. That is clearly seen. I could go on but these 3 were not the right people discuss this. They did not even get that maximum length right. He was given 90 days out of 180 per charge. She gave him the middle to try to teach him that he does not have unlimited rights. She just stacked the times as punishment for his courtroom behavior. I wish I could have been the moderator and ask these people hard questions and not let them run on feeling.

There is speculation that he bought bots for most of his followers on RU-vid. His live streams have maybe 100-200 viewers, which is incredibly low for that size of a channel. He is as much a successful RU-vidr as he is a constitutional law scholar.

Clearly Lisa failed to inform herself - the comments he was making to the driver were that she didn't have a duty to identify or speak to police.

Whether or not you knew Chilly Willy by reputation, having an obvious cop hater standing behind you what are you trying to make sure that the person you stop doesn't have a gun in their lap while you're writing a ticket only adds to the problem. The Castro's demeanor end proximity was obstruction, no not a physical act but a deterrent from the cop doing his job without having to have his neck on a swivel and losing sight of the person in the car.

Why doesn't the panel understand that Chille is allowed to film, but he is not allowed to shout out or to try to interact with the officer while the officer is dealing with a traffic stop that does not involve Chille. Anything that distracts the officer from dealing with the traffic stop counts as obstruction/interference. Obstruction does not have to involve physical contact. Anyone can look up the statute for their state, in some states they call it obstruction, in others interference and in others they have separate definitions for obstruction and interference. Does the panel really think that Chille actions did not distract the officer?

What this video demonstrates is that lawyers (in particular THESE lawyers) are utterly clueless as to what is going on out in public.

It's not a matter of distance, it is a matter of interfering with an officer performing their duty, to which he did.

In Ohio deescalation is a tool not a law/policy. It will not work with frauditors . So why try. That is why "disorderly conduct" is still on most books.

Interesting discussion, I do not believe Chilli believes in what he is trying to sell, it’s more go away money I think he was after, he has become a legend in his own mind. Yes filming of police in the course of their duties, is holding them accountable but it’s the manner of ‘auditioning’ that takes away the officers attention from the traffic stop. This officer was on his own he did not know if Decastro had a gun or knife, in the UK he definitely would have been arrested, I saw in Cyprus recently a woman who was shouting at a police officer, sit down and shut up, in A&E, he had a prisoner who was being seen before her, she was if she had continued been arrested, police officers in the US put up with much more abusive language by people who are filming them in the course of their duties. Just because you have free speech, doesn’t mean you should be allowed to scream obscenities at police, Chilli pushed the envelope and he only had himself to blame due to his actions.

Having 500,000 pieces of dog poop doesn't make it smell any better. Subs aren't currency or flex

It was reported that before the trial the marshal got onto Chili for putting his feet up in the court furniture. Chili gave him attitude about "giving directives".

@ Lisa Szyc what is a constitutional Drivers license?

The 3 of you were hung up on the 500k subscribers, but his videos rarely reach 20k views. What does that tell you? It has been rumored that a large portion of the Subscription numbers were bought. Also take into consideration the amount of views from hate watchers.

What in the hell is a "Constitutional Driver License"?

The issue is, she says "by the time they were walking to the car, they had compliance" at that point its TOO LATE. Once the office decides to detain you/arrest you, its to late to go back.

"Five hundred thousand followers." Frauditors aren't afraid to use bot services to bolster their numbers so I have to wonder if the actual views, especially during lives, really reflects that.

Just for clarity; DeCastro does not have 500k real subs. His videos do not get nearly enough views counts for that number of subs. The speculation is that he has only a few thousand actual subs and bought at least 400k.

Instantly going from Brave screaming so called journalist turning into a dancer doing the ankle shackle Shuffle is not complying.

Being a member of the press does NOT give you any more privileges than you or I. And Freedom of the press, as stated in the constitution, does not refer to the news media.

She doesn’t know what she’s talking about. The fraditors are loudly provocative for clicks, for money.

You can't argue that chili was complying meaningfully when he himself only owns up to taking roughly 2 steps back from the car when ordered, and as for resisting, he put hands on the cop, on camera, and admitted in his own words that it was his alleged wrestling instincts kicking in to grapple the officer.

13:00 Half of his Subscribers are FAKE!!!! look at how many views he gets on each video, Subtract about half which r Hater & t the other half are his actual VIEWERS. DONT B FOOLED!

can't wait to hear how these "defenders" are going to make excuses for his behavior.

How on earth can this crazy lady watch him accosting both the cop and the person pulled over, and not consider this obstruction? In what world can someone actively stop the cop from doing what he was doing, and somehow in this lady’s mind, that’s ok? JFC.

He has a large audience, yes. However his videos get a few thousand views. Not 500k…

The narrative that DeCastro is just documenting, doing the journalist thing etc. That is really a stretch. DeCastro is a social media grifter who is living off of donations he gathers by posting provocative interactions prefereably with police. He is not on the creepiest end of these types, who sooner or later tend to want to "audit" places with children like libraries or schools. If you want to discuss the politics of this like whether this is an overreach of police or the underlying laws should be changed - you use this specific example or DeCastro's general behavior as a basis, that's not going to win public support. And personally I think someone directly inserting themselves into a traffic stop in this way that is really none of their business - going after the driver, and after the officer, addressing either of them directly while the stop is ongoing: I don't know where the line should be, but I have no issue that DeCastro's actions in this case are over the line and led to a conviction. Whether 6 Months is right ... I don't know - does feel like a lot. Give him 30 Days for Contempt and a couple months probation ...

Lisa also said "what about the grab" - not knowing Chille, she doesn't realize he was either fibbing or greatly exagerating, and "if" it happened it was because Chille wasn't making it easy to be patted down.

Thank you to Our Nevada Judges Inc for being transparent.i hope nobody unfollows this is a great platform to keep us all accountable.We still gonna talk chit tho😁

Five officers! That makes a big difference how you treat a psycho. Just one officer has got to protect himself and cannot look in two directions at once. That's why they go in cuffs while detained. Think, people.

Freedom of the press is a Constitutional guarantee contained in the First Amendment, which in turn is part of the Bill of Rights. This freedom protects the right to gather information and report it to others.

This woman is so disingenuous. Theres should be a guy walkong around the study talking shit with a camera. What would she say.

I'm a rather small, and amateur fencer, who among other weapons practices long knife and rapier and dagger. With pied-ferro (that is one foot planted and non-moving) I can strike with either the rapier (lead foot lunge, trailing foot planted) or dagger (lead foot planted, trailing foot passing, weapon in the offhand) to a distance of 9ft with no distinct effort. This is a single movement of my hand and a single footfall. So 10ft behind a single police officer - a belligerent interference is clearly a potential threat. He was asked to move backwards, from a distance 'estimated' to be maybe 10ft. This could easily be from 8-10ft, people are poor at estimation. The training exercise uses 21ft for an alert but empty handed officer to respond to a rushing attacker. He wasn't given a specific distance, but was asked to move backwards - he took a 'half step' then halted and refused to move a second time. DeCastro interfered with the stop - his presence made the officer's job unsafe and his talking to the driver interfered with the ability to continue the stop without interference and obstruction. The minor stop was abandoned - we don't know if the stop was concluded or abandoned for being too unimportant for the increased risk. DeCastro has a habit of obstructionism, interference and he did resist the detention and arrest. He further continued to demonstrate the nature and degree of his obstruction and resistance with his remarks and physical resistance to the removal of his phone in court. This is not 'resist with violence', but it easily rises to resist without violence. He also indicated a willingness and intent to be arrested with a nod and a thumbs up to the judge, immediately before her passing sentence on the conviction. He was rewarded in the manner he seemed to desire. His conviction was 50% of the maximum imposable for the charge.

He was absolutely obstructing. That's how he makes money. Nobody would watch his video's if he silently filmed a traffic stop. He invents police corruption for money. He injects himself in police stops and intentionally verbally attacks them. 10 feet doesn't mean anything. His mouth is the problem. He creates chaos for cash.

No, he had to let the motorist go to deal with Chille.

Press vs journalist. Everyone is press but everyone isn't a journalist

You guys got what seem to my non-lawyer ears a few things wrong by 13:21 . 1) SCOTUS has already said that a RU-vidr is not defacto “media” because everyone on the site viewer and creative are given a channel and since all you need is a sign one that is (as I understand it) way to vague. 2. You can pay for subs. You can buy them by the thousands and millions on RU-vid. 3. A Sub to RU-vid works differently then to a news paper so comparing them is nonsense. 4. Once you have committed a violation the cops have till the statute of limitations to stop investigations. The cop was mid investigation and several times stopped and ultimate he fought the cop. 5. First amendment auditors and cop watchers are different things. Also, people recording an incident is different too. First amendment auditors on YT are instigators trying to cause reactions not respectfully recording. Those that do the later are almost invisible so they are incentivized to cause havoc. 6. Causing a public disturbance for profit is against the law I thought. And since so many of this group have records including SA, DA and CA there demands are I record and stalk victims seems a bit … inappropriate! 7. These persons are helping those that want to destroy our right to record gain support for grossly limiting that right. 8. You can be a jerk and a scum bag but the moment you do there can be no law that says those with discretionary ability will not then return the favor. Insert the Golden Rule here. 9. This was a case where even at the time the cop said he had the right to recorded but he was to close and this happened because DeCastero was applying a law from another state even when told repeated he was wrong. (The 20 foot rule comes from the idea that a person can cross 20 feet to stab you before you can react. I don’t buy that but there is a reason) 10. There is no right to record or do anything in another persons property. Public or no there is no right. They say they want you to wear shoes, shirt and a mask then you must. The only rational law that applies is the traditional public venue. You don’t get to go into an art gallery and start clicking. Same with a theater. I assume you know this. Not a lawyer and this is all IMHO but yeah I was out at 13:21 since I felt maybe I was getting it a lot better before hand.

José may have 500k subscribers, but the real measure of a channel’s reach is the views per video. The majority of his videos have 5,000, or fewer, views. A few hundred videos have 10-99k views, and only a meager 27 videos have over 100k views. Those are not good statistics for a channel. These numbers make it understandable why many have questioned whether subscribers were purchased. It’s highly likely that the channel numbers will continue to trend in an unfavorable direction as long as José remains incarcerated. It will be interesting to see if Jose’s incarceration will change his future interactions with law enforcement.

Yeah, he wasn't complying.

Not sure why, but Lisa was really annoying with every slant defending Chile the frauditor. Am i alone here?

definetely abstruction dont need a law degree to see that. no buisness is truely public someone is in charge of any property and that person has that right to see no to filming inside if managment dont want u to. chilli absouletly not bright. if he was he wouldnt gotten in trouble and be behind bars

If the person was a Sovcit then he most assuredly wasn't responding fast enough. And what the hell is a constitutional license?

The most part of DeCastros 500‘000 Subs are bought and are one timers that just sub him and never watch. A RU-vid channel has always (of course there are exceptions) more viewers that watch the videos that subscribers. DeCastro has an average of 10‘000 viewers. There are five videos that have more than 100‘000 viewers and one video with about 500‘000 viewers. If he didn‘t buy at least 300‘000 subs, he must get a special channel award from RU-vid!

When Kate Peters was taping him and following him he didn't like it he was reporting her to the police. He likes them as long as they harass people for him. He wants others in jail but not him.

Watch the parking lines on the ground, don't think Chille was as far back nor did he move as much as he claims. that

None of the panel members mentioned the fact that Chille was talking to the driver when the officer initially contacted him. Thats interference.

They seem to have done next to no research on Chille....

I should have known, a conference run b Defense Attorneys will always advocate for Chille.

If you are close enough to run your mouth off-you are too close.

So they are talking about his huge subscriber list (not doing their homework to learn that most of them are paid and not real) THEN they go on to discuss his influence and mentioned how popular he is by the amount of views the trial got. No, people didn't watch that trial because they SUPPORT Chille. People watched to laugh at the buffoon finally facing the music. I can't stand people who don't do their homework and talk out their butts.

Lisa is wrong. This was not a maximum sentence for the misdemeanours. He was allowed 6 months on each, and was given 3 plus 3 to serve consecutive - she could have given up to 6 plus 6. This is a 50% sentence. Without his court-room antics this may have been concurrent. He demonstrated 'live' the nature of his interactions with police to the personal protection officer of the court, barely a few weeks after a Judge was assaulted over the bench.

The criminal defense attorney is clueless on who is Decastro and how his escalating behavior, over time, and how he’s treated people in a harassing manner accumulates to point that eventually charges need to be pushed. He’s more than just an annoyance. Cursing and yelling at employees and verbally assaulting people doing their job and potentially causing a safety issue in an I investigation Is what it is. Police and courts know who he is….your previous actions and behavior as being an antagonistic fool to make money at RU-vid is criminal behavior…and serves no other purpose than to get clicks for his channel.

DeCastro did not show any remorse in the court room and he was proud of what he did, that's why he got the sentence he received.

The judge is supposed to consider certain factors in determining a sentence. Part of that is remorse and potentiality of reoffending. Both of these will obviously not go in de castros favour.

A comment on Lisa Szyc about the 10 ft (3m), she has to think how long it takes to take your gun/taser out if someone lounges at you. One can cover 10 ft faster than the average police can draw. So 10 feet is close.

Chile has always gotten in their faces to get attention. He is unable and unwilling to be decent in any way. He wanted interaction and loves tosue. He serves no one but himself. He deserves more time. His antics are dangerous.

It's not a legit 500k

Very interesting and informative, thank you! Coffee is a great facilitator who asks the right questions.

He is not press he buys his subs...he has a few followers

It is my stance that 1a odditers film for money on their monetized youtube channels. That means that these people are making money off of other people's images without their permission. Thats why people like chilly does this, for money. It's not about our rights, its about his right to make money off of harassment.

I posted a comment on a 'first amendment' lawyer's channel who was commenting on ANOTHER lawyer's channel excusing Chilli and of course he deleted my comment. So much for 'freedom of speech.'

Definition in Nevada. Obstruction is Deliberately hindering a public officer from carrying out their duties. This lady is a fool if she thinks Chille did not do this. How disgusting to sit there and watch an obvious crime and ignore what you see. She’s the reason people hate attorneys.

U-tubers ARE NOT PRESS

NOBODY but NOBODY has a right to tell you how to feel.

10 feet is to close. Police are trained in the 21 foot rule. A person can stab you from 21 feet before you can react with a firearm.

I'm not in LE and never have been. I totally understand Officer Bourque's position of wanting a person 21 feet back to give him time to react. DeCastro says he's a member of the press but was unknown to Officer Bourque. Had DeCastro backed up 20 feet, he could still film, and Officer Bourque would have been happy. DeCastro is looking to get into situations where he can file a Federal Civil Lawsuit, which DeCastro has already done over the arrest. When he gets out, he will be suing the judge and the A.D.A., the City of Las Vegas, Clark County, and anyone else he thinks have done him wrong. DeCastro may believe in what he's doing, but it comes down to money, and DeCastro wants fame and has been talking about running for governor of an unamed state. Many people believe that DeCastro buys followers (i have no idea how to do that). DeCastro is suing people who are opposed to have DeCastro acts and point out what's illegal (look in the Santa Monica court in California for those cases). It will be interesting to see how close DeCastro gets to the action. I could stand 20 feet back and zoom in a little and get the same video. The winner in this was the lady Officer Bourque had stopped. The lady initially stopped was kicked loose with no ticket..

It would be pretty amazing if they ended up changed the lawz to help the police more because of this case. Cheeto would delete himself.

But how many of chillis subscribers are bots he paid for to pad his ego. Check how many views he has compared to subs.

I wouldn’t place too much emphasis on the quantity of subscribers he has. Look at his views; they are nowhere near the number of subscribers he supposedly has, and I would venture a guess that there are a good portion of those views that are curiousity views only.

It would take someone that DEFENDS CRIMINALS for a living to think that Chli DeCastro wasn't obstructing the police officer from effectively and efficiently performing his duty. Seasoned public defenders develop a warped sense of reality, right/wrong, and legal/illegal BECAUSE OF what they do for a living. They're mind is conditioned to find a way of justifying the unjustifiable because, well, it's what they do. DeCastro was 100% in the wrong for interfering with the officers ability to concentrate on the task at hand during the traffic stop. There's absolutely NOTHING wrong with filming the police during the execution of their duty. But that's not all that DeCastro was doing. He deserved to be arrested for his purposeful actions.

I think one overlooked fact with him is that we "know" that he's harmless. But now imagine you're the cop in the situation and have no idea if the guy is going to pull a knife or attack you. He totally overdid it and I think the sentence is justified. He should get some extra for his courtroom behavior.

Didn't Florida just pass a 25ft law for stuff like this? Not sure 25ft is needed but each state should have a defined distance now that this is clearly an issue in this day and age.

You need to watch the video Again- the judge told him to give the bailiff and he would not - he instead tried to give it to the prosecution- and the officer grabbed it out of his hand. When the officer did de Castro called him a pig. de Castro demonstrated his behavior and actually obstructed the court by not following the judge’s instructions. When he was challenged by the judge he said the officer had given him an “unlawful “ order by telling him to get his feet off the bench de Castro was sitting on . The judge indicated that she had seen his videos, she also was aware of the body camera videos of the issue at hand. Compound those facts and how he behaved in court were demonstrative de Castro was not contrite and had a propensity to repeat the behavior.

6:48 😂 "He's sharp" 😂

At least some of his subscribers are from the antifrauditor community. I appreciate the viewpoints, but I agree with the police trainer. None of this is about principle for DeCastro. Its about money. Listen to his jail calls. DeCastro is probably going to try to get this video into appeal evidence, with very cherry-picked excerpts.

Having a maniac scream in your ear is obstructing. Try doing your job while that is happening Ms Szyc

did you watch both police bodycam and the footage chille took? he has already lost one appeal... there is NO issue when you stand there and just record... but once you start yelling at the cop while he/she conducts a stop then your interfearing with the stop... a cop should be focused on the person being stopped not splitting his attention with the driver and moron with a camera... once attention is split it takes longer for the cop to deal with the stop... chille intentionally obstructs traffic stops, the time he did an illegal utrun to film a cop... you wonder why he got cited for it.. then you have the frauditors that intentionally split apart to split the attention of a cop three or more ways... there are many frauditors out there that just want a confrontation with cops to draw attention for youtube clicks and views... chille is just one of them but his claim to fame is his so called constitutional law scholar which he doesnt understand the basics of law...

This woman lawyer is a total joke, sounds like she wants to be 🌶️ lawyer or something.

Keep up folks! The ‘times’ are running circles around your stagnant heads-good grief!