Coinbase CEO on SEC Lawsuit and Whether Crypto Is a Security | WSJ 

You nailed it. Now the sec is trying to do anything they can to close escape valves that go away from the dollar. Which probably means something bad is coming, and people should have solid investments outside the dollar.

@@tylermcclure4324 both are your comments are astute. I hope people are paying attention.

The argument that Ethereum is decentralized is dubious. The downgrade to proof-of-stake was entirely designed and coordinated by the devs under their supreme leader and public-facing spokesman Vitalik Buterin. Also the power-law distribution of stake is an invariant that is never not the case. Thus even though we may not know the names behind the curtain, there are small number of individuals who control every proof-of-stake blockchain. Thus it certainly appears to be an obfuscated enterprise, which I think what the courts will ultimately conclude. Thus everything not Bitcoin will end up as a security, unless there can be any other surviving proof-of-work altcoins and/or someone can invent an alternative to the current status quo of proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. Yes I am implying that every proof-of-stake blockchain based cryptocurrency is probably a security under the Howey test.

If they were going after Bitcoin I’d agree with you but it’s very clear that just about all crypto currencies with the exception of Bitcoin is a security, including Eth. Brian is trying to protect his business and income and that of his investors. It’s really that simple

​@@RyanVoelkel only legacy Bitcoin will survive with its 1 MiB block size will limit transactions to 7 per second. No SegWit, no Lightning Networks scaling. Thus Bitcoin will be only for the uber wealthy who can afford the $10k transaction fees. Bitcoin will enslave us, not rescue us. I wrote extensively about the game theory of the 2017 soft-fork which will eventually he hard-forked with all those 13 million Bitcoins being donated to the miners. You all do not know what is really going on.

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CON base is scum. I lost nearly 8000 xrp. THEY never even acknowledged me. Account was hacked when I left xrp on there for flare drop. FK CONBASE THIEFS!!!!

hes bald, too. and those guys are motivated asf. cant get a gf any other way. look at the lengths Bezoes went thru....

@@user-xq2ls5ib5b All caps...wow must be true

The Lehman Brothers collapse happened during the onset of a recession where the government was willing to bailout massive corporate entities just to attempt remedying the economy. That mistake will not happen again, with proper legislation. After the serious negative press crypto has received in the last year don't you think the market would get more customers if customers could be given something akin to a FDIC insurance on their deposits? Or would we rather have more fraud?

The only thing Gensler has protected me from is gains.

It is the SEC's job to protect investors... they just don't do a very good job of it. But we shouldn't make the mistake of assuming that this is 100% the SEC's fault. Most times they simply don't have the resources, or the regulatory power to really do their job effectively. The GOP has been hammering this "pro business", anti-regulation, anti-government narrative for DECADES. It's a very easy narrative to sell to Joe Sixpack... but it doesn't do anything to help Joe Sixpack. It only helps megacorps who already have too much power, and creates the conditions for a collapse like 2008. Note: I am NOT saying it's 100% the GOP's fault either. The democrats are owned by corporate interests as well. But the GOP _has_ been the one pushing this deregulation narrative over and over.

They probably investigate very little to protect anybody. They are probably there to pick the winners and losers.

​@@ianmedford4855 😂😂funniest comment ever

Indeed

He's just giving Brian the opportunity to give a strong case, in which he did, if he got thrown soft ball questions like you're beloved Frankenstein biden then we'd have more illegal immigrants in the metaverse commiting SA in sandbox

Dude acting like he’s answering the questions lol

@@youtubeuser4645 is this comment like a parody or something? I'm so confused how someone could put these words together.

The interviewer did a good job I think. He asked hard questions and gave Armstrong the chance respond to them and lay out his case.

Not really, he is mostly playing devil's advocate and gives Armstrong passes to answer about SEC's arguments(or lack thereof). It's what an interviewer should do. I found the interviewer very informed, questions weren't stupid and were straight to the point.

@@steveperi840A lot of those questions felt like traps though. They also give the SEC a lot of foresight on how his arguments against the case might play out. Whether it was intentional or not we don't know, like you said could just be a 'good' interviewer. But to me the questions felt a little too straight forward and one sided. Strong questions and answers nonetheless 👍. Very impressed with how Brian navigated the interview

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@@PsaGrades they were challenging questions for sure, but they were the right questions. and thats what makes this all the better. I do think he was playing devils advocate too.

I felt like it was decided upfront that there will be "difficult quesstions" that Brian could prepare - feeling that the journalist is trying to undermine him, but failing to do so, is of course very much in favor of Coinbase. Imagine that the journalist would ask easy questions or would feel like he agrees... the interview wouldn't be believable.

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Lol exactly. Good observation :)

@@DL-hu9yw not everything takes hold... plenty have tried, its really about a tipping point of investment, if you have a significant enough invested, you've already won public opinion and that will translate into legitimizing. seems like a dubious playground for money launderers and the like to dodge sanctions and regulation, even if you have a few 'honest players'

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i recommend supporting crypto over a crypto company. If they stop crypto in america coinbase goes overseas and most likely gets delisted in america

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Industries build stuff.

100%

naaa, defending their company

your not verry smart ey

Yeah thanks for delisting XRP AND FUDDING PEPE. GREAT COMPANY.

How naive can people get?

Agree. How can people who drive Toyota Corolla be unethical?

Yes because Gensler is ignoring facts and he is certainly not doing it to serve the American public

gensler himself called 75% of the crypto market commodities and was a prior CFTC head!

It's corrupt.

gensler need to go not coinbase

Gensler sits when he pees.

We know how badly the sec wants to take down Binance& in attacking they the sec froze my assets on Binance us)the sec hurts retail investors . Not helps harms still coinbase should join forces with binance cardano solana & polygon matic to create a united legal front against this out of control rabid dog grnsler sec

coinbase doesn't seem to me working in the best interests of the industry you see. They thought the SEC has their back ROFL

@@m0o0n0i0r Obviously, Coinbase only really cares about working in the best interests of Coinbase. But they never "thought the SEC had their back." They've always tried to work openly with regulators (or at least tried to _appear_ like they were working openly with regulators), but the SEC has made that very difficult.

@@neofromthewarnerbrothersic145 Sure, and coinbase is accusing the SEC of picking winners and losers - while their listing policy to me seems to be doing exactly the same thing. Has their policies actually worked in their best interests? I believe it hasn't based on the fact that they had to make staff cut backs - January 10, that the company would be reducing operating expenses by 25%, which involves laying off another 950 employees. Now they have to pay extra cash fighitng the SEC. Point is, their current operation doesnt appear to me, working the best interests of coinbase as an exchnage, hence why they are having got fire employees. If they had a consitent approach, they would delist the coins the SEC believes were securities in their complaint, as they did with XRP? Instead they delisted XRP and missed out on trading fees for about 2 years. Lets face it, they are ETH maxis, and now are trying to ride to coat tails of Ripple's sucess against the SEC hence why Paul Grewal wants more meetings with Stuart Alderoty. Seems like they worked way too hard to get an IPO and plecated the SEC for it - and it didnt do their business any good, hence the staff cut backs.

True but the law is the law. The argument that Ethereum is decentralized is dubious. The downgrade to proof-of-stake was entirely designed and coordinated by the devs under their supreme leader and public-facing spokesman Vitalik Buterin. Also the power-law distribution of stake is an invariant that is never not the case. Thus even though we may not know the names behind the curtain, there are small number of individuals who control every proof-of-stake blockchain. Thus it certainly appears to be an obfuscated enterprise, which I think what the courts will ultimately conclude. Thus everything not Bitcoin will end up as a security, unless there can be any other surviving proof-of-work altcoins and/or someone can invent an alternative to the current status quo of proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. Yes I am implying that every proof-of-stake blockchain based cryptocurrency is probably a security under the Howey test.

I thought Sam was arrested and about to go to trial. I guess you know better, and I am mistaken.

Except thats completely false, the government literally brought FTX to a complete halt and the ceo was arrested.

Sec is about to get what's coming to them. xrp is going to win within 2 weeks

@@BrianSmith-qp1ym whether altcoins like xrp get through the next 2 weeks has little bearing on where theyll be in 3 years. Additionally whether xrp continues to exist has little effect on the remained of the 100,000 altcoins which exist, which all will almost definitely quickly wash down the drain, which is for the best as they are all scams.

@@last99centstorecauseinflation Gary Gensler met with Sam mutiple times and still allowed to operate his scam business. What you think about that?

Yeah he also listed shiba inu

@@bitkurd Tencent Music Entertainment is down 75% from its high in 2021. Why not hold the New York Stock Exchange to the same standard?

they shared all their data in good faith SEC used is as a counter legal game plan.

yea? he also listed LTC - created by Charlie Lee, an employee of Coinbase, delisted XRP but seems to operate a double standards now keeping coins listed that the SEC deems as a security e.g. ADA..seems like market manipulation and picking winners and losers (He accuses the SEC of the same thing coinbase is doing themselves). I will not use coinbase - dont want to support these people

"Headwinds"... you get it...?

Thats how u get killed....

Honestly he did great even sharing some of his personal candid thoughts too, glad to be a Coinbase customer

Coinbase will lose. The argument that Ethereum is decentralized is dubious. The downgrade to proof-of-stake was entirely designed and coordinated by the devs under their supreme leader and public-facing spokesman Vitalik Buterin. Also the power-law distribution of stake is an invariant that is never not the case. Thus even though we may not know the names behind the curtain, there are small number of individuals who control every proof-of-stake blockchain. Thus it certainly appears to be an obfuscated enterprise, which I think what the courts will ultimately conclude. Thus everything not Bitcoin will end up as a security, unless there can be any other surviving proof-of-work altcoins and/or someone can invent an alternative to the current status quo of proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. Yes I am implying that every proof-of-stake blockchain based cryptocurrency is probably a security under the Howey test.

I dont really care much for crypto, but this was a great interview and what a clear and consice CEO.

@@Growlizing you will care for crypto when your Western country bans cash by 2025 and forces you onto a dystopian CBDC digital currency where the Communist government (we now have) can prevent you from spending because you exceeded your carbon credit allowance or wrote the wrong think on a social media post. We are headed into very dark times sir. You better get in touch with reality soon.

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Im also on Coinbase side here, but what was arogant in your opinion? The interviewer has asked valid questions I would like to hear the answer myself.

they’re so corrupt

So you support they sell your biometric info to the gov and 3rd parties

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

The WSJ, FT, NYT have all been amazingly biased when if comes to web3. But good to see WSJ provide this forum at least for Brian. Brian is a legend.

It’s written in the law. Ppl who do crimes don’t ask the police. Nor do the policy have to explain. They enforce. Coinbase acting innocent is more cringe than the SEC being dicks. As much as I hate regulating and being a gambler myself, I don’t feel bad for those gambling with cryptos.

@@MugenTJ why do ignorant people like you like to open their mouths when you know nothing? save the embarrassment please

If by challenge you mean blurting cheeky nonsense & chomping at the bit for his famed gotcha moment, sure.

@@MugenTJ You figured it out bro. No need for a whole court system, only enforcement. No law ever required clarification/interpretation. Really though, are you some kind of genius? It sounds like you're outright ignoring every provided detail of the circumstance to form as ignorant of an opinion as you possibly can. Also really has nothing to do with gambling for normal people, though. Sorry about your gambling condition/psychology.

@@RENOWN55CHARGE didn’t say anything you just said. If I drive around LA with a cell phone in my hand. I will be fined, no matter if I am aware of the law or not, nor if the policy need to tell me that I can’t do that. I’m no genius but ppl acting dumb is equally cringe. Of course the law will be interpreted in the court. Right now I’m siding with the sec despite not the law itself. I rather have ppl crew themselves gambling and learn from it. Rather than having government running every aspects of our lives. Btw don’t be sorry for my gambling, I make a decent living with it. I feel rather blessed. No to say it’s always easy.

It's very likely the US gov knew exactly what was going on at FTX and let if fail in order to use it as an excuse.

corruption

Great Great Questions

Gary loves Sam! They had rugelach together many times

Don’t over complicate things , it’s simple. The “crypto industry” is 99% pump and dump scams , each project with a few devs and usually one or two main people that run things in shady ways. They issue tokens , they keep most of it, and they extract liquidity from stupid people before they dump it. Some conspiracy theories are true , but this is not one of them.

They think everyone is going to dump there bags

Incorrect. You do not understand the law. They are liable to the Howey test.

this is USA you are not welcome here if you think there is no freedom. SEC can sue whoever they want and whenever they want. coinbase has right to defence. Nothing wrong. But I see you are from china so crawl back under your rock.

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

Not defending the SEC but the SEC told them it was all a security and they kept selling them.

No. It is Coinbase and Crypto that are drunk with hubris and their power because they've been able to flout the law for over a decade.

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

While altcoins arent securities, they ARE ponzis, so I can see why the SEC is going after them. I feel bad for the people gambling on altcoins instead of just buying bitcoin.

Yep they pretend they want to "save you" ,but actually no one ever gets their money back. Its just a way for SEC to raise monies

True bcs banks gonne invest alot in the btc halving to mine

@@anmazool725 of course!! If they wanted to actually help people, they'd announce a list of books to read to learn the skills to trade successfully, not restrict everything out of fear mongering!!

True if not accredited you can't invest early into the next potentially huge company, but you can buy after public when VC's need exit liquidity to dump on your heads. Opportunity gate-keeping is what it is.

@michaelstollairetbarceo3287 glad you mention this. Recently, we are seeing ads for angel investment opportunities that are available to gen public. Like grocery stores, reits, self storage, crypto, etc. And they tout them as finally breaking through that accreditation barrier, not in the same words of course. What Gen Publix doesn't understand though, is that these are projects that most of the typical accred investors don't really believe in or fit their risk profile, that's why they are now offered to Gen ppublic. They are literally the highest risk projects and most likely to fail

You will not like the outcome. We are being enslaved. The argument that Ethereum is decentralized is dubious. The downgrade to proof-of-stake was entirely designed and coordinated by the devs under their supreme leader and public-facing spokesman Vitalik Buterin. Also the power-law distribution of stake is an invariant that is never not the case. Thus even though we may not know the names behind the curtain, there are small number of individuals who control every proof-of-stake blockchain. Thus it certainly appears to be an obfuscated enterprise, which I think what the courts will ultimately conclude. Thus everything not Bitcoin will end up as a security, unless there can be any other surviving proof-of-work altcoins and/or someone can invent an alternative to the current status quo of proof-of-work and proof-of-stake. Yes I am implying that every proof-of-stake blockchain based cryptocurrency is probably a security under the Howey test.

Crypto invalidates the concept of jurisdictional authority because crypto transactions are beyond enforcement. If governments cannot alter transactions, or lifelong detainment is required to prevent individuals from transacting (unconstitutional) all governments lack enforceability thus all prerequisite legal authority. So that no man should take authority over another; One CPU equals one vote. One record, uncensorable and immutable. Zero enforceability. Zero authority. Zero compliance. Above jurisdiction. Above governments. Suprasovereign.

XDC will kill Ethereum! XDC is the REAL Ethereum Killer! 😎👍👍

The slight nods by the interviewer when he threw back a perfect answer was nice to see

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The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

Prepared? For anyone that actually bothered to read the lawsuit, it's crystal clear NO ONE BOTHERED TO DO SO AT WSJ. The SEC is claiming Staking as a Service is the issuance and sale of a security. That is the primary driver of the lawsuit papers. It barely discusses individual coins except to mention those that have ALREADY filed to be a security token. Not even close to prepared.

XDC will kill Ethereum! XDC is the REAL Ethereum Killer! 😎👍👍👍

Yrah u know more than the SEC for sure bro lololololol

Not incompetent, they are corrupt

No they are not incompetent. They know very well how to manipulate markets. JP Morgan anyone??? Scumbag Gary attempted to infiltrate to binance... Lowlife

@@healthygrowth7760 that's the thing.. i would expect them to do deeper research

My thoughts exactly!

Well said! 👍

Exactly

That's every journalist. They know nothing but think they know everything. Classic midwits.

Yeah, who calls Ethereum, "Ether?" Although I will say the interviewer was well prepared and asked good questions for Brian to make his case.

Maybe a battalion. The Army is in front of him.

Won't matter when you are facing the Deep State.

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

I seen coins jump %1000 then go back down and up, is that normal? The asset I'm speaking of trades on coinbase wallet

The SEC is a business. Lol they don’t need to be clear. Not only are they regulators but they can penalize companies and individuals on regulations they don’t need to be “clear” about

Bitcoin is the only digital asset. SEC is clear

There targeting the more popular ones and the ones that will change people's life and make money the bastards

They need ammo for later, to try to disrupt crypto after they lose these rounds.

XDC will kill Ethereum! XDC is the REAL Ethereum Killer! 😎👍👍👍

He is citing laws..... You don't like laws? Lol

@@healthygrowth7760 I since when people have an agenda. Trust me I understand the law and that laws are not meant to be static.

@Crypto Doge he is citing laws that apply to anything you cant just say its not thwart because I just stole your crypto.... Saying there is no laws is just nonsense

@@lewisblake5849 ohhh yeah trust me bro... Ots the agendas bro

Lol

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

XDC will kill Ethereum! XDC is the REAL Ethereum Killer! 😎👍

This is a businesses, they are not fighting for you or me, they are fighting for their bottom line.

Ohh yeah that they are fighting for you lolololololo

@Crypto Doge lol "the Americans"

😂

The dude admits to investing in projects before allowing retail investors to trade them aka dumping on retail...He is the CEO of the biggest shitcoin casino in the world. At least with a casino you know what you are getting into - degenerative behaviours leading to financial loss. This muppet pretends to be providing financial freedom! Repeat after me kids... bitcoin isn't crypto. Crypto isn't bitcoin. Bitcoin only. Stack sats and stay humble. Never buy shitcoins. Get your bitcoin off exchanges NOW. Use Bitcoin only exchanges to purchase then withdraw to your own cold storage asap...

And they didn’t list avax

Nothing, eth is a security

​@@MyRU-vid915 would it have a futures etf if it was an unregistered security?

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The SEC is showing they definitely are not looking out for anyone but themselves and the governments power.

You think Gensler is fighting XRP and Coinbase?... he's not... it's just a show. He's there with XRP and Coinbase... and all those people who have XRP and going to think... oh XRP have beat the SEC. They have went through two years of winding you up and XRP and Coinbase are going to win and the SEC is going to be disbanded. That is the plan... and always was the plan. Coinbase are criminals... and are with the SEC... There is a coin called Truebit protocol... and coinbase are selling in their exchange... but they can't... if you go into Coinbase you will see it in their listing... and they will tell you it can be bought... but you can't.. you just get Trufi. So all the people who think they have bought Truebit.. they just get Truefi... and it's not the same thing. They do this because the way asian speak Truebit sounds like Truefi so they go to buy Truebit and think they have vought it... just to get Truefi... It's fraud... and the SEC have done nothing about it. If Gensler really wanted to bring down Coinbase he could charge Coinbase with fraud... and he hasn't and won't... because he's with XRP and Coinbase.... it's just the show. If you read some of the comments you'll see many of them are stoogies... you may be one too.. may be not.. but it doesn't matter because when this kicks off... it won't matter if it's XRP, Coinbase, Stellar, BTC or any other coin... gold, silver... that won't have a price either... there will be no price because the finance system will collapse and nobody will know what they have.. what price... and where to buy or sell... the bank closed.. the exchanges closed. The only thnig would stop that is CBDC... and I don't see that happening... the "people" won't go for it. That's what all the "chaos" is for... to give you the "help" to get into digital money... order out of chaos... and the SEC are the patsy.

@@thomaswrzalinski7454 super educated statement here lol. either a bot or sub 50 IQ

​@@thomaswrzalinski7454 you seem really well informed

He’s a rat faced crook.

He has political aspirations! He understands that these crypto currencies are unregistered securities. It’s why he hasn’t gone after Bitcoin. Eth is up next on his target

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Good thing he took off his earring.