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Coleman CT200U-EX 63MPH minibike gets a Torque converter
Installed a torque converter on the Coleman CT200U-EX minibike with a Predator 212 to see how much top speed the bike would lose and how much quicker it would be.
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@billyrogers9624
@billyrogers9624 Год назад
I blame your channel for all the parts that will be showing up to my house this week for a build. Thanks for the convincing lol
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
LOL That is awesome! I'm glad we could help!!!😃👍🤏
@leehuffstetler9600
@leehuffstetler9600 3 месяца назад
i bought two minibikes within two weeks because of your channel keep up the good work
@OcotilloTom
@OcotilloTom 2 года назад
I have the exact mini-bike with the stock engine, no engine mods. at all. I am running a Power Sport torque converter and clock it regularly at 38 MPH and I weigh about 212 pounds.
@thecrafteeone6192
@thecrafteeone6192 2 года назад
Wow . I have same but In tac black. Good to know. I was wondering if the torque converter adds more speed. Because right not my bike is stock and slow. Do u think I need to add a riser pad if I go straight chain n smaller sprocket?
@keithcola2516
@keithcola2516 2 года назад
Springs or shimms under the stock springs will do and delete the governor and u can get 50 easy from the stock 196!! I to have both the regular ex and black tac awesome bikes!
@skinnyMc317
@skinnyMc317 2 года назад
@@thecrafteeone6192 I have the same bike, stage 2 kit with the torque converter. I weigh 200lbs and it tops out at 46 with factory governor
@nitrohq7893
@nitrohq7893 2 года назад
@@thecrafteeone6192 website of torque converter
@mr.liggins9092
@mr.liggins9092 2 года назад
@@keithcola2516 straight chain only
@midnightwaterdragon4725
@midnightwaterdragon4725 2 года назад
I agree with everyone, he's got more torque at launch than he knows what to do with so just drop the rear tooth count and I'll bet he not only gets his top speed back but does the 0-60 faster cuz he won't be fighting a wheelie and can punch full throttle. Now that alone should do it but if he also tunes the TC to his mods he'll get even better performance out of it.
@Manchildchannel
@Manchildchannel 7 месяцев назад
It’s gonna slow the bike down at launch if he goes with a smaller rear sprocket
@Texas_bikes66
@Texas_bikes66 4 месяца назад
@@Manchildchannelyeah but thats what he needs ive done it before if it gets less torque then no wheelie and quicker 0-30
@Black66
@Black66 3 месяца назад
@@Texas_bikes66 Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I have done many engine and part swaps and disc brake conversion since this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eHax9KYC0xo.html
@Black66
@Black66 3 месяца назад
@@Manchildchannel Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I have done many engine and part swaps and disc brake conversion since this video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eHax9KYC0xo.html
@jacobneymeiyer9091
@jacobneymeiyer9091 2 года назад
Smaller rear sprocket will do it for ya. Probably keep the 0-30 the same cause you’ll be able to really get on it and you’ll have your top speed back or close
@cesarcabanillas9333
@cesarcabanillas9333 2 года назад
I was literally about to get on RU-vid and search jackshaft vs torque converter vs straight chain. Thank you
@FatMajorKoob
@FatMajorKoob Год назад
This gets better 0-60 than my mom's car
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Check out the e-bike. It gets 0 to 30 in the one-second range! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XkRNGWfpgCE.html
@chrisMengland
@chrisMengland 4 месяца назад
What size are the two bolts on the front of the torque converter?
@nowater4you943
@nowater4you943 2 года назад
Lean forward on the bike when you take off should reduce some of the pop up in the front end
@Silentroller93
@Silentroller93 2 года назад
If you adjust the spring tension on the rear TC pulley you can adjust how quickly it goes into a “higher gear”.
@billwilliamson9842
@billwilliamson9842 2 года назад
get the juggernaut driver from go power sorts and do this test again, then try a rear sprocket change. still plenty left on that top end with the added benefit of great bottom end.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out this playlist . I have tried quite a few different combos with the CT200U-EX . More to come ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman Год назад
Could you tell me the length of chain used?? Please&thank you!!😁✌️💚
@Canadian_Craftsman
@Canadian_Craftsman Год назад
PRETTY PLEASE....🤣✊️🔥
@Blacktopkatchup
@Blacktopkatchup 7 месяцев назад
Be careful the frames not made for that kind of abuse, my Coleman ct200 frame cracked in 3 places. Great video
@Black66
@Black66 7 месяцев назад
👍👍Have you seen the 60 MPH videos I have on this bike? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHf9yJmaZLA.html
@abdulkamau2862
@abdulkamau2862 17 дней назад
You have to gusset it
@ab_customz_llc
@ab_customz_llc 9 месяцев назад
Nice video, thanks for sharing. Where did you get that mini bike lift from?
@Black66
@Black66 9 месяцев назад
Thanks! Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and part swaps with this bike and others. Not sure about the lift I picked it up used. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bXRQfwHEPfg.html
@novasiren4424
@novasiren4424 2 года назад
At 1:52 into the video, what kind of spacer are you using for your spare one?
@larryegilman1
@larryegilman1 2 года назад
I raised the seat an inch to change the angle of the seat, moves the cg forward, and you lose the sensation that you are sliding off the back. What clutch did you remove. Appreciate your approach to modifying these mini bikes👍
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Thanks! That is a good idea! I used a 3/4 shaft clutch on the Predator
@samsgarage1716
@samsgarage1716 2 года назад
Your making me want to put my clutch back on but I ride in the woods so I depend on the toque converter to get me up the hills.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
It would really be hard on the clutch climbing the hills. The converter is better for what you do.
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 2 года назад
Hey I know a great idea for a video. Belt test. Test the 203589 Vs. the 203590 and see if you gain any MPH or acceleration and higher RPM.
@JKUadventures
@JKUadventures 8 месяцев назад
I have a stock ct200x, with the throttle limiter tab bent down, I get 23mph. Question: About 85% throttle, handles/frame vibrates so crazy, hurts my hand after long rides, but once 100% throttle it's good again. Second question: Without taking the engine apart,what would you recommend to get to about 35-40mph? Thanks in advance.
@Black66
@Black66 8 месяцев назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist .We upgraded the CT200U-EX step by step . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bXRQfwHEPfg.html
@seanroseman6768
@seanroseman6768 2 года назад
I tell people all the time a straight chain is much faster... I don't know what it does to the clutch life but the torque converter adds more weight to the bike too. Would rather just grease up the clutch and run it straight.
@bigheadhammer5886
@bigheadhammer5886 2 года назад
Wish I woulda done that
@MrBirdHd
@MrBirdHd 2 года назад
Is straight chain better for top and or good for both bottom and top.
@elduccitv4304
@elduccitv4304 2 года назад
That straight chain is monster!!! A free upgrade just about
@seanroseman6768
@seanroseman6768 2 года назад
@@Naferner_Said I recently popped on a torque converter and I love jumping up the hills.
@chrishall1025
@chrishall1025 2 года назад
Can you raise the engine with some wood or is that a nono
@buddymedina
@buddymedina 2 года назад
I bought the same riser mount because you recommended it. It is built very well and I love that I don’t have to paint it! Ha! You mentioned that you needed another spacer, do you have a link for that? Thanks for another great video!
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Thanks. The spacer is just a 3/4 flat washer i picked up at the hardware store. You can use the converter kit without the extra spacer/washer. I use one just too put the pullies in better alignment.
@buddymedina
@buddymedina 2 года назад
@@Black66 got it thanks! I look forward to all your vids. Keep up the good work!
@DFiantFigure
@DFiantFigure Год назад
Damn that motor mount keeps you from having to cut off the chain guard bracket fml. I already cut mine off
@carlwinslow4175
@carlwinslow4175 2 года назад
Came here when my kids CT jackshaft bearing fell out not too much more $$ to upgrade to Torque converter. How does the stock brake handle the extra speed ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
The stock brake handles some extra speed. When you start getting up there to 50 or 60 MPH it could use upgrading. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. It has a hydraulic brake video. Thanks for watching the videos !
@carlwinslow4175
@carlwinslow4175 2 года назад
@@Black66 Ok cool man....he's 14 so may do TC mod and leave it all stock so not too crazy.. ; /
@AdamOpheim
@AdamOpheim 2 года назад
Gotta hang your entire body weight off the front, can def keep the front end down at that power and speed. I'm at a 2.4 0-30. great video! Can you test if the juggernaut slips less?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Thanks,That video comes out on Saturday
@mlindsay527
@mlindsay527 2 года назад
Are you using a Dragy? Are you hitting 60 mph, if so, do you have a time? The juggernaut is MUCH better than the stock driver in terms of shifting smoothy. But, it finishes out at lower ratio, so you need a different sprocket (larger front or smaller rear) to maintain top speed.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@mlindsay527Yes I'm using a Dragy. I have tried multiple combos on the CT200U-EX. Check out the play list. I have used a juggernaut on a few of them ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@linkscape1957
@linkscape1957 2 года назад
I don't know why I think these things are so cool. I think it's just the tinkering and ability to make a small motor really perform...lol. Definitely need to buy one but they are getting expensive...
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Yes, I noticed that the other day. They are getting ridiculous in Price.
@linkscape1957
@linkscape1957 2 года назад
@@Black66 I was going to get the red one at Walmart but I checked the other day and they bumped up 300 bucks...lol. it's a different model than you have. Not sure if they are all about the same or if some models are better than others
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@linkscape1957 The prices are getting crazy on these things! For me, a lot of it is a personal preference.
@michaelbentley7510
@michaelbentley7510 2 года назад
I bought the exact same converter you have and it’s amazing! My belt did snap. Do you know what size or a link of the ones you bought?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
I think this one should work www.gopowersports.com/30-series-drive-belt-203590/
@billweston1655
@billweston1655 2 года назад
Where did you get that engine spacer/engine mount. I have the predator 212cc I need a good carb for it as well. Thank you
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
The links are in the description for the parts. Check out the CT200U-EX for more combos on this bike. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@TheKidAustin09
@TheKidAustin09 Год назад
Can you please post a link of the motorcycle lift you are using? I’d like to purchase one. Thanks & great video 💪🏼
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Thanks! I think its from Harbor freight but not positive. I got it used. check out the CT200U-EX playlist for more videos and combos with the CT200U-EX ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@jimsmirh2406
@jimsmirh2406 2 года назад
I’d rather have the torq-a-verter and lose a few miles per hour than have to deal with a regular clutch setup. In my experiences the chain doesn’t get thrown off at all and the power is a lot better to boot.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out The CT200U-EX playlist. I use a torque converter and many other combos on this bike. Thanks for watching! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@jimsmirh2406
@jimsmirh2406 2 года назад
@@Black66 I’ll check it out. Thanks and have a great rest of the night.
@alexanderpapii4866
@alexanderpapii4866 Год назад
Chain thrown off? Then you just don’t know how to work on mini bikes
@atl7720
@atl7720 10 месяцев назад
Torque Converter has its downsides too. The belt doesn't last forever and if it gets wet it slips.
@bradcarpenter2396
@bradcarpenter2396 2 года назад
Hey Bro. I have a CT200UEX stock, I see you have the same however you ran it without the jackshaft, on the clutch only well how did it run on the with the clutch only.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. It's been through many different combos. I got it up past 60 MPH. Here is the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@big420ccboiz9
@big420ccboiz9 2 года назад
Awesome video keep the good work up
@Turbo44mag
@Turbo44mag 8 месяцев назад
I put a belt drive on one mini bike. The drive bolt in the drive shaft fell out (strip the drive). I am lost what to do now... Everyone says "size it, thread it..." but I think the drive needs to be replaced.
@Changito1979.
@Changito1979. 2 года назад
I would like to know what's the belt size for the torque conveter ...
@staticmkvi
@staticmkvi 2 года назад
Where do you get that extra spacer? Need that part
@marjuspjeci4097
@marjuspjeci4097 9 месяцев назад
hi, I also fitted the same kit, when I walk 2 km I touch the belt and it overheats why?? yours is the same i.e. does it overheat??? or is it normal??
@207shenanigans
@207shenanigans 10 месяцев назад
Was the riser a must?
@818adventures
@818adventures 5 месяцев назад
Yes the riser is a must because the driven can scrape the bottom of the frame
@RM-mq9my
@RM-mq9my Год назад
What magnetic flywheel did you run because all I see are billet flywheels but I want to be able to run lights
@dipsydodunkeroobaby
@dipsydodunkeroobaby 2 года назад
Question, I have the same Coleman with a tc. Trying to gain top end speed. Will the mikunni carb help ? Or do u need to change the a 60 tooth ? Thanks I’m advance currently maxing out at 47mph
@dipsydodunkeroobaby
@dipsydodunkeroobaby 2 года назад
Still have stock hisun in it.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. It shows the performance gains after each mod. We did some sprocket swaps carb swaps etc. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@dipsydodunkeroobaby
@dipsydodunkeroobaby 2 года назад
@@Black66 thanks I’m going to check the playlist.
@dipsydodunkeroobaby
@dipsydodunkeroobaby 2 года назад
@@Black66 if I install the Makunni carb, do I have to remove the governor from inside the motor ? Or just the linkage etc from, also if I remove the governor linkage. Will I run any risk of damaging the motor, due to high rpms etc. thanks again, your videos are great. Keep them coming !
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@dipsydodunkeroobaby The VM22 will help. It will support future mods better than the stock carb. And at the same time it will clean up the engine by getting rid of all the throttle linkage. It is always best to remove the internal governor wheel.Less chance of something coming apart. I have ran a 196 with the wheel not removed from the crankcase without any problems but its not advised.
@garyp9678
@garyp9678 2 года назад
Hey man I have a 224 put the same valve springs in what did you set your exhaust and intake to for valve gap
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
.003 Thanks for watching the videos!
@yoursuburbanredneck2844
@yoursuburbanredneck2844 2 года назад
Does it need the riser mount?
@kirkmccloud5873
@kirkmccloud5873 2 года назад
Are you here anywhere in Florida 🤔🤔 if I ever get one I would love for you to modify it...
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
I'm in AZ
@wouldyalookatthatbarb9613
@wouldyalookatthatbarb9613 Год назад
So I'm running a 12 tooth on front and stock sprocket on rear on a colemen 100u. 212 seems to hit top speed and start to sputter and not want more. Ideas?
@Kjjjjj445
@Kjjjjj445 2 года назад
I seen 64mph an I like that trumpet 👍🏾
@DFiantFigure
@DFiantFigure Год назад
Is this the 35 or 40/41 torque converter kit
@JH1200A1
@JH1200A1 2 года назад
That torque converter requires some breakin. With just a new belt, it has a crap load of friction. Once the bearings and belt loosen up, You're likely to see high 50's after some miles are on it. I had an older two seater kart that had the torque converter and a bone stock flathead briggs. It was about as slow as pond water until my cousin and I installed a cam and header pipe. Then it would get about 40 mph but the engine was still bogging at top speed. From a dead stop it would spin both back tires on the concrete. I have a red Coleman mini bike and I have been thinking about a predator 225 and a torque converter but I really don't think it would be a good idea. I don't heal like I use to. 🤣🤣🤣
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
This was a used torque converter that was totally broken in. Check out the playlist on this bike. It was used in many different combos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@darkkemissionz9481
@darkkemissionz9481 2 года назад
I just put a new TC on my massimo, 224 predator but now is kind of boggy like u said, especially at top speed
@abesalazar2716
@abesalazar2716 5 месяцев назад
For top speed speed should I run a torque Converter or a normal racing clutch ?
@Black66
@Black66 5 месяцев назад
On the big bikes like a CT200U-EX I would run a torque converter. Its hard on the clutch with the tall tires on the bigger bikes. Check out the CT200U-EX and other playlists on the channel. You can get plenty of top speed from a torque converter with the right set up. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-W8lcopztTxQ.html
@thecrafteeone6192
@thecrafteeone6192 2 года назад
Sup black66? I have a question? Will a straight chain & smaller rear sprocket on colemanct200u ex work without a riser plate?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Yes, the chain gets close to the frame, but it works. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I added a 40 sprocket in one of the videos ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@tyonnathomas9361
@tyonnathomas9361 2 года назад
That's a tough bike
@honeybadgeractual5734
@honeybadgeractual5734 Год назад
I want to see this bike with the same setup but with a 12t or 15t pulley side sproket, and maybe a 35t rear sprocket. Maybe even add the juggernaut on the front. I'm doing a sinilar build but struggling to find a 15t C type #40/420 chain driver. Or a good 35t rear. But id like to see a 4.5s 0-30 and a nice cruising top speed of 65 at 3/4 throttle, so I'm not pushing the motor hard on longer rides, but the bikes transmission naturally changes gear ratios to climb better and wont lug
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
I have done combos with the Juggernaut and the 40 rear sprockets in the CT200U=EX playlist and the Mega Moto 12 playlist. I have gotten the MM212 bike to run over 60 with the Juggernaut. Check it out.ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-2GxryXDUkt8.html
@honeybadgeractual5734
@honeybadgeractual5734 Год назад
@@Black66 nice I have watched them, but I'm trying to keep my governor because I have electric start, a stator setup, and a rectifier for charging. Which means no aftermarket flywheel.
@katelynnpeebles7313
@katelynnpeebles7313 Год назад
I have a Mega Moto MMB-105 with a Predator 212 all stock except the throttle linkage and it has a 12 tooth front sprocket and 75 tooth rear on 6in wheels... I only get 27mph if I push it. My question is what would bring that top speed up the most for the best price $$ as im on a budget lol?
@hellheart1993
@hellheart1993 Год назад
A smaller rear sprocket. Anything smaller than the 75 will help you. Try a 60 rear. That she be about 38-45. 53 rear might be about 50-52. You can also change the clutch, I recommend from 15-18 tooth clutch with that 75 tooth. I miss my mini bikes
@caidoooo3504
@caidoooo3504 2 года назад
How much has this build cost you? Curious cause I’d like to do it to mine
@Skeetergarage
@Skeetergarage Год назад
So I’m doing the same thing to my bike cost is $120 about (with a torque converter and some new chain and riser) if you use a cheap square tubing engine risers for $20 instead of the $50 risers but it’s up to you
@collieman7377
@collieman7377 2 месяца назад
I just built a very sim setup...its freaking me out to run the chain so tight...all my dirtbaikes have play in the chain...
@Black66
@Black66 2 месяца назад
Maybe you could throw a chain tensioner on it
@collieman7377
@collieman7377 2 месяца назад
@@Black66 i was wondering if u could use the chain gaurd nut by the motor as a apot to attach....i rather not use one ..i was just wanting to make sure its ok & safe to run a chain this tight..bottom side has about about ¼" play by using pressure i took all the slack completely out... but theres not alot of clearance in the torque converter i feel u run any slack at all its gona slap side to side and chew the wheel up..was wondering if i am doing correctly..thanks in advance
@ronareister5388
@ronareister5388 8 месяцев назад
What size (number of teeth) was the rear sprocket?
@cayminlast
@cayminlast 2 года назад
Very interesting, thanks.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Thanks, More coming on Saturday, Check it out
@jasonhatch7195
@jasonhatch7195 Год назад
Do I need that mount if I get a Torque converter or will it come with it ?
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
It comes with the backing plate but you need the riser mount.
@BRUH-mk2vr
@BRUH-mk2vr 2 года назад
Love the video🔥
@phoenixmojado527
@phoenixmojado527 8 месяцев назад
What is more reliable straight chain or torque converter
@Black66
@Black66 8 месяцев назад
I would say torque converter for the big bikes because they weigh more have tall tires and are hard on the clutch.
@phoenixmojado527
@phoenixmojado527 8 месяцев назад
@@Black66 thank you been appreciate it!
@rightousrollaxk8854
@rightousrollaxk8854 2 года назад
Bro do you Build and sale any of ur motors you making me want a mini bike but I don't want it unless that motor hyped up I know how to do it but don't have no the tools
@juwaunhill3999
@juwaunhill3999 Год назад
I wanna see this bike with a 37 tooth sprocket 0-30 speed test and top speed please
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. We got close and used a 40-rear sprocket. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@ezekiel8915
@ezekiel8915 2 года назад
Hi Black66, Could you send me a link to the best torque converter band. The ones I ordered off Amazon all blew off after a few rides each
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
If you buy a converter like this one or a comet it will hold a good amount of power. www.ombwarehouse.com/torque-converter-3-4-bore.html
@ezekiel8915
@ezekiel8915 2 года назад
@@Black66 Oh! I was looking for a belt, But thank you for the link lol😆. I realized that my torque converter also didn't have the brass bushing (Where the band slides on to) Maybe that's why my bands are blowing off🤷‍♂️
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@ezekiel8915 It actually should be ok without the bushing if your not setting and idleing all the time. I would make sure the pullies are in alignment . If not it will eat up belts faster. Sometimes you have to add an extra washer on the driver to bring it out a little to get the driver driven in alignment.
@ezekiel8915
@ezekiel8915 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your help, Yeah I'll definitely check if it's aligned. I don't know if the bands were bad or not. Also my drum brakes are squeaking very bad, Is there a fix to that?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@ezekiel8915 If you use some of those slotted brake shoes That's one way to quiet it down. Also while it is apart use some very fine sand paper or a Scotch-Brite pad to get the glaze off the drum.
@999benhonda
@999benhonda 9 месяцев назад
Can a torque converter limit engine rpms vs a chain?
@Black66
@Black66 9 месяцев назад
Yes use a juggernaut driver like in this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-TRW-5IaOIGY.html
@deathtrapperformanceminibi260
@deathtrapperformanceminibi260 2 года назад
I feel this is an unfair comparison as a torque converter out of the box is setup for a stock governed engine and in my opinion it needs to be tuned to your engine just like a carburetor for it to work to it's full potential
@big420ccboiz9
@big420ccboiz9 2 года назад
If he change the back spocket
@WhoWasMae
@WhoWasMae 2 года назад
how do i tune my torque converter i have an ungoverned predator 212 that i just bought and a torque converter that i just bought but i want to mod out my engine like his are you talking about spring positions or rear sprocket or front sprocket or all of them combined or what?
@deathtrapperformanceminibi260
@deathtrapperformanceminibi260 2 года назад
@@WhoWasMae They make different weights and springs to change the engagement rpm and the speed the belt shifts for the driver and they also make different springs for the driven also. I've found the aluminum weights and blue springs to be the most common setup for the driven and really wakes the bike up if your bike is more heavily modified then it might take some experimenting with different spring combinations
@Futzfella8
@Futzfella8 2 года назад
I want to k ow why u lost 10mph...u never said what your clutch size was and most stock torque converters like this one comes with a 10 tooth 40/41 size and if you were running like a 15 clutch of course your gonna lose top end 🤷🤷🤷 so please what side clutch did u have ?!?!?
@rfrazier113
@rfrazier113 2 года назад
on the 196 coleman engine, what do you set the lash for the 18lb springs? I am having a hard time getting them adjusted right. It is making the pull start basically yank the rope out of your hand when you try to pull it and now it is "ticking"
@rabbitrunner2948
@rabbitrunner2948 2 года назад
I set all my engines at .003 thousandth
@rfrazier113
@rfrazier113 2 года назад
@@rabbitrunner2948 I set both at .004 last night and that seems to help. Do you think I am ok with this on the 196cc?
@rabbitrunner2948
@rabbitrunner2948 2 года назад
You should be golden
@Appalachian_Enduro
@Appalachian_Enduro Год назад
I need a engine riser for my ct200uex pls recommend something I need help
@phoenixmojado527
@phoenixmojado527 Год назад
What rear sprocket is this running?
@mphjunkie5457
@mphjunkie5457 Год назад
What torque converter kit is this?
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
The link for the torque converter is in the description.
@michaelbentley7510
@michaelbentley7510 2 года назад
where did you buy the second spacer?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Studz racing has everything .
@michaelbentley7510
@michaelbentley7510 2 года назад
Thank you!
@the-pokeman7534
@the-pokeman7534 Год назад
what size torque converter did u use
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
30 series. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many engine and part combos with this bike .
@eliastrejo5989
@eliastrejo5989 2 года назад
👍 👍
@WyFoster
@WyFoster 2 года назад
Probably needs a Juggernaut to complement the mods you have.
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
Yep. With that gearing the current mods are not taken advantage of running it to only 4200 RPM or so. It never gets far enough into where the most power is. This has happened to many with the Coleman bikes over the years. Very common. Guys will build a decently powerful engine and complain about not getting enough RPM at top speed. When the Juggernaut came out it took care of that.
@WhoWasMae
@WhoWasMae 2 года назад
what is a juggernaut im new to the whole mini bike thing sorry
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
@@WhoWasMae It's a 30 series driver that can be used to replace the stock driver on a torque converter. It's main feature is gearing after the belt shifts. The stock driver gets you overdrive (.9/1) once the belt shifts to high. The Juggernaut gets nowhere near OD and gets to around 1.5/1 or so allowing higher engine RPM at speed. The gearing difference between the 2 drivers is quite dramatic. The bike in the video is getting 4.5/1 overall once the belt shifts. The Juggernaut would get around 7.5/1 overall gearing. The bike in the video could use a Juggernaut and a 40 tooth sprocket.
@shawn6684
@shawn6684 2 года назад
@@Deucealive75 love my juggernaut im 265 and tall and the stock one on my mb200-2 wasn't cutting it lol put the juggernaut on and made a bigger difference. Lol
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
@@shawn6684 Nice!
@brentharvey9858
@brentharvey9858 2 года назад
Get a juggernaut and it will be a whole different animal.
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out the playlist. I have used a juggernaut multiple times on different combos. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@jimmycooper7248
@jimmycooper7248 2 года назад
is it me or does it look like handlebars are bent or...something?
@exix_yt8352
@exix_yt8352 2 года назад
love the vids
@darkkemissionz9481
@darkkemissionz9481 2 года назад
I just installed this on my predator 224, gained 10mph... but the throttle is now weird and cuts in and out with speed, any ideas?
@corbinwalter1212
@corbinwalter1212 2 года назад
might be the belt slipping
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Год назад
Sounds like you were banging on the governor. Back out the throttle screw.
@RandyPrater870
@RandyPrater870 2 года назад
I have a RT200 with a built 212, 30 series cvt with a juggernaut and run 60 consistently with a worn out belt. Could probably do 65 with a new belt. The guy who built it says I could 70 if I switched to a clutch 👀
@BiggZazaa
@BiggZazaa 8 месяцев назад
Whats your gearing
@gregsteele9002
@gregsteele9002 2 года назад
Sold my 200ex. Footpegs are too far forward for trail riding, can't stand up. It's great on the roads though, for sure. Coleman RB200 (ReBranded200) handles rough trails like an off-road Cadillac, with its perfect foot peg placement and massive seat.
@jrc-fabs1634
@jrc-fabs1634 2 года назад
I know what you mean but I'm just gonna weld mine to a different spot
@perez2451
@perez2451 2 года назад
Hi brother, would you sell that bike as is ?
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
I have multiple bikes on the channel I will sell or give away on the channel at some point. Right now, I use them for testing different combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@nathanialhulsey6900
@nathanialhulsey6900 2 года назад
Hey if I have a predator 212 and a torque converter would I still have a little torque if I added a 38 tooth rear sprocket instead of the stock 50 tooth? I hit 55 right now and am wanting to hit 60
@nathanialhulsey6900
@nathanialhulsey6900 2 года назад
Without removing the torque converter
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@nathanialhulsey6900 Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. There is a video in there where we did something similar. 40 tooth rear sprocket. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@bigdawgshowtochannel8983
@bigdawgshowtochannel8983 Год назад
I have a 38t sprocket lost 7mph Don do it actually a 60t will be more beneficial I have 60t can’t get past 52 mph but I have a stock ghost 212
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Год назад
@@bigdawgshowtochannel8983 That's pretty good if you are running 10/60 sprockets with the stock torque converter driver. I would leave it there unless you are dead set on getting higher than 52.
@sicksnips4244
@sicksnips4244 Год назад
So i bought a torque converter but the driver clutch pulley wont expand except on full throttle, and wont go past like 10 mph(barelyengaged) belt still at the bottom of the converter??? Im very confused any help
@mikeschneider2161
@mikeschneider2161 Год назад
Extend your foot pegs out front 👍
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist for many mods and engine swaps on the Coleman bike ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHf9yJmaZLA.html
@MOAONAABE
@MOAONAABE Год назад
maybe a smaller sprocket in the back.
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. I used a 40 sprocket in a few different combos on this bike. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@MOAONAABE
@MOAONAABE Год назад
@@Black66 i watched your series, and i wonde why you went back to the 50 sprocket after coming down tot the 40, id be trying to tame the wheel climb...
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
@@MOAONAABE I like the 40 sprocket with the torque converter like in the Mega moto 212 video. With a staright chain I use a 60 sprocket to make the bike a little quicker and to be eaiser on the clutch.
@colt2110
@colt2110 4 месяца назад
Thats scary with the brakes on those things. The brake is terrible
@Black66
@Black66 4 месяца назад
Yes, check out the Coleman hydraulic brake installation video. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-eHax9KYC0xo.html
@jakobjones1010
@jakobjones1010 2 года назад
need the juggernaut tc to handle those rpms. the series 30 tc maxes out at 3100 rpms where as the juggernaut handles 8300 top rpm
@jakobjones1010
@jakobjones1010 2 года назад
bigger driven sprocket and a smaller rear sprocket will also give you that top speed you want
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Check out the CT200U-EX playlist I have used the juggernaut and many other combos on this bike. Got it to over 63 MPH! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-X0SmAZJ6qW8.html
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
@@jakobjones1010 In this video the CT200U-EX does 60 MPH ! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-jHf9yJmaZLA.html
@Black66
@Black66 2 года назад
Also check out the playlist on the channel for many more bikes with many more combos!
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Год назад
3100 RPM is with a completely stock engine and Coleman gearing. For years guys have drag raced with modified 30 series drivers launching their bikes at 4500+ RPM. You can't do that with a Juggernaut.
@xaviermccloud4586
@xaviermccloud4586 2 года назад
A 60 tooth sprocket would most likely get you back up to the 60s.
@johnk6346
@johnk6346 2 года назад
Yes it would have😆
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
Would be nice to see him test this with a 60 tooth.
@WhoWasMae
@WhoWasMae 2 года назад
ok this may be a dumb question but dont they come with a 50 tooth and doesnt adding teeth slow top speed and increase torque i may be dumb but i thought thats how it works (sorry im new to modding mini bikes i got my first one last year and just bought a predator and torque converter 2 weeks ago everything has come in except the engine riser so i cant quite put it together yet)
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 года назад
@@WhoWasMae The 60 tooth would bring the engine RPM higher at speed where more power is available to drive the load. There should be more power to drive the load at 5000 RPM than there is at 4200 RPM. The problem with the 60 tooth is that it's useless if you are going to use a Juggernaut driver. The engine would top out at too low a road speed. You question is not dumb at all because gearing is so important. The short version is that a sweet spot needs to be found because too much gearing in either direction doesn't work well.
@InHisName999
@InHisName999 Год назад
If you would only gain some wait. Traction problem solved.
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Yes, but then I would use more gas...
@suvashrimondal1965
@suvashrimondal1965 9 месяцев назад
Install boat tork converter
@psychologicalsigma9917
@psychologicalsigma9917 Год назад
Those torque converters tear they those belts though.
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 Год назад
Depends on pulley alignment and gearing.
@Dannyboy52819
@Dannyboy52819 7 месяцев назад
Those Speedo apps are not accurate at all
@Black66
@Black66 7 месяцев назад
I use a DRAGY performance meter in all of the videos. Check out the playlist. it is VERY accurate!
@moflyboyblanquito541
@moflyboyblanquito541 2 года назад
Now go GROM hunting lol.
@moflyboyblanquito541
@moflyboyblanquito541 2 года назад
Also maybe throw a bigger rear sprocket for top speed?
@gremlins7727
@gremlins7727 Год назад
Mini bike straight chain increase torque
@ethanhaynes9269
@ethanhaynes9269 2 месяца назад
Not very informative on how toninstall
@Black66
@Black66 2 месяца назад
Check out the CT200U-ex playlist for more detailed videos. Thanks for watching! ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Up6TpJiopEo.html
@keithcola2516
@keithcola2516 2 года назад
Never ever worth loosing 10 mph!!! And u can barley keep it on the ground....Thanks for this all my friends swear by em and they never sold me!!! Lol Now I see why
@ineedspxce
@ineedspxce Год назад
If I use a straight chain will I need a longer chain and if so what will I need?🤔
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
Check out this video We get the bike to 63 MPH ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Up6TpJiopEo.html
@ineedspxce
@ineedspxce Год назад
Ouu also what about the clutch and the sprocket how many teefs is it🤔😊
@Black66
@Black66 Год назад
I have did so many videos and different combos with this bike its hard to remember a given video. Check out the CT00U-EX playlist for many combos with this bike. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Up6TpJiopEo.html
@ineedspxce
@ineedspxce Год назад
Thank you cause I have one sitting here I think ima get a 212 predator
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