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Collapsing Rolls In Grooves

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Here's an approach to playing grooves where we substitute the backbeat for a "collapsing" roll.
I've done a whole video on collapsing rolls that you can watch here:
• Collapsing Rolls
I've also written a pdf to accompany this video which you can download here:
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23 авг 2024

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@cphcarle Месяц назад

Thank you! One particularly clear example is Gadd’s (all-too-often forgotten) groove on You Make Me Feel Like Dancing, by Leo Sayer. Gadd takes it one (sensitively articulated) step further by not just putting an accent at the start of the roll, but also by decreasing the velocity graduallly THROUGHOUT his collapsing roll : even more challenging than what this video very aptly explains.

@GRMS_Ian Месяц назад

Thank you Darryn! Your playing is very inspiring. Very clear and efficient lesson in my opinion. I love the sound of your kit especially that floor tom! Note to self … Collapsing Rolls … let’s do some-o-that!

@ArenHill Месяц назад

Damn, that intro was smooth as hell!

@backbeatbrown369 Месяц назад

Oh. I had a completely different idea of what a collapsing roll was 😬

@christianwagenseil9621 Месяц назад

what is a completely idea?

@danbunge9787 Месяц назад

I had one for breakfast.

@UncleWalter1 Месяц назад

Very cool. That would be a cool way to try and play the beat from Mysterons by Portishead live. I'm definitely going to work on this and see how much dynamic range I can between the accent and the rest of the roll.

@HolyGhostDrummer Месяц назад

Whoa! I’ve been working on this for the past two or three months now! This video was so informative and helpful.

@DeanWuksta 5 дней назад

beautifully executed Darryn, on ritenours captains journey, there’s some smooth extended collapsing rolls by gadd

@guillearacenag Месяц назад

👏 Como de costumbre, una tremenda clase MAESTRO🙏. Respecto a aquello del backbeat anticipado, me recordó a uno de mis grooves favoritos: Gregg Bissonnette🙏 en el tema "Friends" del álbum "The Extremist" de Joe Satriani. Gracias MAESTRO Darryn por seguir enseñando cómo tomar un(a) "simple" rudimento o idea y generar variantes que la desarrollen con algo que, para mí, es de suma importancia: el "buen gusto" y el "sabor personal". Saludos desde Chile🇨🇱. ...🙏🎶🥁🙏.

@benaberry578 Месяц назад

Smooth Darryn

@lechthaler100 Месяц назад

Best Lessons here on RU-vid

@danbunge9787 Месяц назад

Gaddaments has some nice examples.

@dinoacconci Месяц назад

Thank you

@thomasfraioli361 Месяц назад

great lesson ,very useful drumming ! thanks

@Tsachras Месяц назад

super! thank you !!

@Heavyperro Месяц назад

I’ve always wanted to learn the beat from Water Runs Dry by Boys to Men. It has a such a cool roll pattern. Thanks

@fredabery3816 Месяц назад

Excellent, mate

@darkresc 24 дня назад

Thanks for the helpful video! It was very insightful and I would like to know what drumsticks you use.

@darrynfarrugia9904 19 дней назад

Thanks. The sticks I use are Zildjian "Dennis Chambers" model. I like glossy sticks!

@MrDominiclynch Месяц назад

G'day Darryn, Thanks so much for releasing all of your highly informative and useful content. Regarding Collapsing Rolls,these require alot of finesse when one plays a rimshot followed by a ghost note on the same hand. Are you able to comment on ways one can gain this type of control when the tempo gets brisk and whilst attempting to excecute double strokes in 32nd note form? Thanks again mate, Dom.

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

There are no shortcuts or hacks to getting this to sound good. It just takes some painstaking work and focus. I still think mine sucks a little. You will get it though. Just be patient and diligent.

@Elboy522 Месяц назад

Great vid, but there is an annoying high frequency ringing that sounds like its coming from your lav mic

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

My friend, this has been doing my head in and I've just realised that the high pitch frequency you're referring to is actually a squeak coming from my drum throne or hihat stand. I can hear it at 2:22. Is that what you're hearing? And thanks for the comment, too.

@RobBrens Месяц назад

Winter Daz in full effect.

@warrenh Месяц назад

All four 16th's of the collapsing roll are doubles, yeah? The first is accented?

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

Thats right. RRLLRRLL etc with an accent played on the first note.

@fredrikh3547 Месяц назад

Your kit sounds really great! Somehow you seem to be able to talk and play without having to switch mikes also, something not even Dave Weckl manages to do (: Does your voice go into the overheads only, or do you have another setup?

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

I have a lapel microphone attached to my sweater. It records everything so I then have to cut out all the drums in that microphone in the mixing stage so that you only hear the drums through the drum mics.

@theThingsEtc Месяц назад

Beautiful playing, great lesson, great drums sound. Thanks for this. I did pick up (on my iPad speakers, of all things) a super high-pitched artifact when you were speaking (never when playing). It was close to the limit of my hearing but pretty high up there, and I had to pause/play/pause to confirm it was coming from your video. FYI in case there is something sneaking in some high freq into your voice chain that you can pick up on and EQ out. Anyway, I’m subscribed now. Good stuff!

@fredrikh3547 Месяц назад

@@darrynfarrugia9904 , interesting. Thanks for the reply, love your channel!

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

@@theThingsEtc This has been doing my head in and I've just realised that the high pitch artefact you're referring to is actually a squeak coming from my drum throne or hihat stand. I can hear it at 2:22. Is that what you're hearing? And thanks for the sub and the comment, too.

@JulianFernandez Месяц назад

classic Gadd!

@drumstudiomonchengladbach8131 Месяц назад

I don't care how you call this "lick" - it's just aSIXTUPLET (R L L R R L ) or vice versa! Steve Gadd uses this "lick" in various ways: hands on two sounds (HiHat/Snare, or divided between Snare/Bass-Drum)

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

This is definitely NOT a sextuplet. These are 32nd notes played as doubles RRLLRRLL etc. Also, I don't refer to this as a "lick" in this video.

@nickdebeky2338 Месяц назад

The Keith carlock type beat

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

Absolutely. I should have mentioned Keith in the video too.

@thedoctoronelove Месяц назад

Peter Blick was your teacher no?

@Odthean Месяц назад

Nice lesson. You sound great! I like the idea of playing a 9 stroke roll at the end of a groove. That being said, I would never call it a "collapsing roll." This will only confuse students. Call it what it is. It's a 9 stroke roll with an accent on the first stroke. Granted, this doesn't make for an intriguing title to your lesson 🤣😜 Alright that's it I'll get off my soapbox. Once again I really enjoyed your playing!

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

It's still a nine stroke roll. The "collapsing" roll is concept i.e. a way to approach the roll rudiments the way Steve Gadd does at times. I've done a whole video on this concept. See the link in the description.

@Odthean Месяц назад

@@darrynfarrugia9904 Yes. It's a 9 stroke roll. Did you read what I said? Oh well. Good luck!

@christiangibbs391 Месяц назад

*Hey Hey, It's Friday* 😁🎉😎🥁👏

@edwardk3 Месяц назад

No it's not

@tootsa28 Месяц назад

Thanks Darryn. Just checking - the collapsing role still starts with a double stroke? So it's RRLLR, with the accent on the first beat? Is this difficult to achieve if you're accenting with a rim shot?

@darrynfarrugia9904 Месяц назад

That's correct. It's actually a double i.e. RRLLRRLL etc with an accent played on the first note. Nailing the rimshot does take a bit of practise. Stick with it and you'll get it.