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This is a fan request that came through recently and if you guys have suggestions for future topics you’d like to see me cover, then use the google form in the description box below. I’ve got some amazing suggestions from you guys, so keep them coming. Today’s story involves a feud between two bands who were huge in the 90’s. The Smashing Pumpkins and Collective Soul. Stay tuned for the full story.
Collective Soul ascended to prominence in the mid 90’s with their 1994 hit single Shine from their debut album. The song was a huge hit topping the US Mainstream rock charts and it was also a crossover hit peaking at number 11 on the US billboard hot 100.
Ed Roland, the singer for Collective Soul, recalled to Songfacts how he came up with the song revealing "I had riffs - this was the late '80s and I was writing a lot of songs. I called it "drone," I was in a band at the time. But I always had the "Shine" riff, and I thought, "That's a cool riff." Then I came home and spent the night with my parents and Dean, who is 10 years younger than me - I didn't even know he played guitar. So he was playing guitar, and I joined in. I just showed him the riff, and I was like, "I need to finish this." So, I literally just wrote it right there, with Dean, sitting in my parents' living room. I didn't think anything about it. I probably wrote it in 1989, and it wasn't out until 1994" he'd say.
Because of the lyrical content of Shine, some in the press labeled collective soul as a christian or religious band because of the mention of the word heaven in the lyrics. Roland elaborated to Popmatters"I remember around the time ["Shine" came out] getting into an argument with a writer who said, 'You're a Christian band.' I said, 'No, we're not.' 'Well, you have the word heaven in your song.' And I said, 'Well, so does Led Zeppelin. I don't remember anyone saying they were a Christian band.'"
It was during that the time that Shine took off, The Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan slammed Collective Soul in the press referring to Frontman Roland as a "shameless rip off artist" According to Cleveland.com Corgan was upset over how similar the song sounded to, Drown. According to Cleavland.com Corgan was so upset that he sued Collective Soul in the mid 90’s but Roland was able to produce a demo of the song that dated back to 1989, which predated the formation of the Smashing Pumpkins. It was rumored that Collective Soul for their second album, which was self titled and came out in 1995 wrote a diss track about corgan in 1995 called Smashing Young Man. While Corgan isn’t named in the track there are lyrics like "synthetic-like," and saying he lives in a "self-lit spotlight
And as recently as 2020 Ed Roland gave an interview to Cleavland.com where he clarified what the song was about saying
veryone thought that because he was busy smack-talking about us all the time -- which didn't bother me at all. It's just a fun song, and the next thing you know Billy starts coming at me again and I'm like, "Dude! No, no no..." And finally, there was one point where I just said, "Yeah, it was written about him, sure. Whatever he wants to think, I don't care." But I love Smashing Pumpkins. If I ever met Billy, I'd tell him what a great musician, great songwriter he is. I've got nothing negative to say. I've got other things to do in my life than to bitch about people he'd say.
The Smashing Pumpkins would surprisingly cover “Shine” at a show in 2010 briefly and heres what happened..” Whoa, heaven let your light shine down. I hate that song. What a rip off of my band. Fast forward to
2019 and Billy Corgan was answering fan questions on Instagram when one fan asked the frontman if he ever made peace with collective soul to which he replied F*** Collective Soul. Now and always.So that does it for today's video guys thanks for watching. Go listen to both of the songs and let me know if you see any similarities. As always if you have any suggestions for future topics use the google form down below. Take care.

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@roberto77suarez
@roberto77suarez 3 года назад
Billy Corgan playing Shine: people happily singing along. Billy Corgan hating Shine: people cheering in approval 🤷🏻
@charlesbalter3470
@charlesbalter3470 3 года назад
People are dumb.
@Pugetwitch
@Pugetwitch 3 года назад
🐑🐑🐑🐑
@deanleonard9984
@deanleonard9984 3 года назад
@@Pugetwitch that's what I thought..Sheeple are easily entertained
@larrydavid6852
@larrydavid6852 3 года назад
Pretty sure that Billy Corgan has even had a feud with my cat at some point over litter tray preference.
@Morningv0dka
@Morningv0dka 3 года назад
To be fair they were both nice litter trays
@imalright2837
@imalright2837 3 года назад
He tried to sue my rat too. Something about a cage not being big enough for the 2 of them 🤔
@KyleLThayer
@KyleLThayer 3 года назад
He did the same to the vampire in my attic. Really weird defamation lawsuit, immediately thrown out when Corgan alleged that only worlds can be vampires.
@BATMAN7666
@BATMAN7666 3 года назад
@Larrydavid As Always your a true Comedian! Loving your comment
@larrydavid6852
@larrydavid6852 3 года назад
@@BATMAN7666 😁👍
@ReedsRedactions
@ReedsRedactions 2 года назад
Collective Soul is an incredible band. One of the all-time greats!
@SiddharthBasrurOfficial
@SiddharthBasrurOfficial 3 года назад
As much as I love Smashing Pumpkins, Corgan does come off as a giant douchebag. Absolutely love the way Ed Roland handled the situation, though.
@buildusarocket3410
@buildusarocket3410 3 года назад
GET GODESS GAGGED BACK!
@SiddharthBasrurOfficial
@SiddharthBasrurOfficial 3 года назад
@@buildusarocket3410 Preaching to the choir. ;)
@charlesbalter3470
@charlesbalter3470 3 года назад
That Corgan has always been such a self-involved douchebag always prevented me from really liking Smashing Pumpkins.
@wolfstar675
@wolfstar675 3 года назад
Corgan is a genius songwriter. Douchebag or not he's the man.
@jeffbenzos6344
@jeffbenzos6344 3 года назад
@@wolfstar675 there’s plenty of people worthy of that title that don’t come off like giant cocks
@charlesbalter3470
@charlesbalter3470 3 года назад
“Nobody EVER played octave melodies on guitar before me!” -Billy Corgan
@MrFrankfurt13
@MrFrankfurt13 2 года назад
He's probably sued Wes Montgomery...
@superviewer
@superviewer Год назад
@@MrFrankfurt13 I was gonna mention Wes 😂
@dantecry125
@dantecry125 Год назад
He's like those Finebrothers you can't react
@endezeichengrimm
@endezeichengrimm Год назад
Bloody hell! Did he actually say that?
@rrdream2400
@rrdream2400 Месяц назад
George Benson stole that from Billy before Billy was even born. That's how much of a genius Billy is.
@snoweverywhere
@snoweverywhere 3 года назад
Billy called it a rip-off even after it was proved to pre-date the entire band? Billy is a talented guy who wrote some excellent music, but he constantly comes off as just joyless and miserable.
@snoweverywhere
@snoweverywhere 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine I'm just going by what was said in the video
@snoweverywhere
@snoweverywhere 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine didn't help him win his case. Or if there was no lawsuit, Billy just hates the song and band for no reason.
@petabulmer7345
@petabulmer7345 3 года назад
Why does he always have to be so negative about people all the time?
@petabulmer7345
@petabulmer7345 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine You cannot tell me how I view things for myself. You are not me. I can see how I was generalizing, I was wrong there, yes. What perceived injustice are you talking about though? Not playing past songs? Injustice is too strong a word for that. Yeah he has the right to be pissed off and he wants to live for now, but I have see clips and heard audio of him being downright mean to fans. The people who help him pay his bills. He should be more respectful. He seems bitter. These are my feelings. I already know the media cannot be trusted, thanks.
@petabulmer7345
@petabulmer7345 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine I know that.
@NastyWoman1979
@NastyWoman1979 3 года назад
Pretty sure Billy Corgen had a feud with himself at some point back in the 90s
@kylehegedus5498
@kylehegedus5498 3 года назад
Despite all his rage, Billy’s still just a rat in a cage!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂
@mmmtsp
@mmmtsp 3 года назад
hey i think you lifted that line from somewhere, i see another feud brewing.
@elfrankito8890
@elfrankito8890 3 года назад
At least you think your own joke is funny
@nixter417
@nixter417 3 года назад
Corny
@WFly101
@WFly101 Год назад
Lol
@jonmccauley6490
@jonmccauley6490 Месяц назад
Did you ever get your cease and desist from Billy?
@hermit7903
@hermit7903 3 года назад
I loved Shine when it came out and still do to this day.
@qotitadelsol8689
@qotitadelsol8689 3 года назад
You're a herb
@hermit7903
@hermit7903 3 года назад
@@qotitadelsol8689 Oh wise one, I sure am! The Ganja variety!
@brandongrayson456
@brandongrayson456 3 года назад
Hints allegations and things left unsaid was a great album all the way threw
@hermit7903
@hermit7903 3 года назад
@@brandongrayson456 I loved it and still own it.
@solomonsanchez79
@solomonsanchez79 3 года назад
That was the worst band to ride the grunge wave and that song always sucked.
@jasonmiller4080
@jasonmiller4080 3 года назад
“Oh that Billy’s at it again”. He and Courtney Love sound like a match made in heaven.
@lukasskywalker6514
@lukasskywalker6514 3 года назад
Hell*
@josealbertofreitas4862
@josealbertofreitas4862 3 года назад
@@lukasskywalker6514 Totally agree !
@jamesstaggs4160
@jamesstaggs4160 3 года назад
Yeah Corgan seems like kinda of a dick. I was way in to grunge during it's heyday but I was never a huge Pumpkins fan. I just can't get past his voice.
@jasonmiller4080
@jasonmiller4080 3 года назад
@@lukasskywalker6514 😂 😂
@BlasphometicHermetic
@BlasphometicHermetic 3 года назад
@@niteporter So the song Doll Parts, which is a love anthem to Cobain, was written by Cobain? Or was it by Billy?
@truthh8322
@truthh8322 Год назад
Ed handled all that perfectly
@joegahan7055
@joegahan7055 3 года назад
The more I hear about Billy the more I question my love for the band
@yuripullman1452
@yuripullman1452 3 года назад
Same. And to think that I like them.
@lindsayj56
@lindsayj56 5 месяцев назад
This video has almost turned me off them completely. I love collective soul.
@stephenmonachello6256
@stephenmonachello6256 4 месяца назад
I agree. I love both bands, but Billy constantly proves he is a giant douche. Collective Soul proved they wrote the song before The Smashing Pumpkins were formed and he is still claiming they ripped him off. More like the other way around. Ed handled it with class
@Gustavo_PerezRamirez
@Gustavo_PerezRamirez Месяц назад
I don't, but Corgan is a douchebag indeed.
@Really_Its_Me
@Really_Its_Me 3 года назад
Who doesn’t he have a “feud” with 🤷🏻
@ilznidiotic
@ilznidiotic 3 года назад
I know. I thought this was a reupload until I started watching.
@jaspermcminnis5538
@jaspermcminnis5538 3 года назад
Who else does he have a feud with? I don't know much about him other than everyone thinks he's an asshole.
@briankennedy1192
@briankennedy1192 3 года назад
Just to Kurt cobain would forgive his wife for rooting corgan. History or no history. Kurt got a raw deal of puffenstuff love.
@mr.smith2636
@mr.smith2636 3 года назад
Hey fuck you, that's my band! Yeah you're right he does feud with everyone lol
@deanleonard9984
@deanleonard9984 3 года назад
@RockMeAmadeus I don't think anyone could blame her either..Especially after seeing the mini doc or either Reels or AXS tv.
@redram5150
@redram5150 3 года назад
Always liked Collective Soul. Didn’t think it was fair how they were lumped into the grunge scene though. Their material was more pop rock. But the label issued them the flannel grunge uniform in order to make them more marketable
@alienio4970
@alienio4970 3 года назад
Meh I totally disagree. Every band who had a lead singer who sang the way he did, was lumped into the "Grunge" band category, back then. Collective Soul never had pop appeal.
@philfrank5601
@philfrank5601 3 года назад
@@alienio4970 Not true, really. They had at least five hits I can rattle off the top of my head. They were popular throught the 90s and early 2000s.
@alienio4970
@alienio4970 3 года назад
@@philfrank5601 yeah, they had some popularity. Couple known singles. But Pop band appeal? No way man
@donnix768
@donnix768 3 года назад
@@alienio4970 Yeah I always thought of them as “90s rock” which is a pretty generic vanilla label. However, the fact they became mainstream rock didn’t make them pop, a phenomenon of the 90s decade with music. I love smashing pumpkins but this is one of several times Corgan comes off as a prick.
@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743
@midohiobuckeyeaorwarrior9743 3 года назад
Collective Soul continued the AOR/melodic rock sound that was popular throughout the 80's and carried into the early 90's. Band was pretty much 90's arena rock. Band was influenced by R.E.M., Van Halen, Foreigner & Tom Petty.
@michaelbanks2401
@michaelbanks2401 3 года назад
Billy is so talented, The worst part about it is his biggest fan is himself
@Ballerina-Girl
@Ballerina-Girl 3 года назад
"F*ckin hate that song". Then don't sing it.
@davidgalinat4257
@davidgalinat4257 3 года назад
IKR. Just sent them some song royalties for playing it, so jokes on you, Billy.
@damiendyda8608
@damiendyda8608 3 года назад
Billy is such an ego maniac. Those songs sound nothing alike. I don't get at all where Billy is coming from.
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 3 года назад
Free publicity. Good or bad.
@NastyWoman1979
@NastyWoman1979 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine so since Sgine predates The Pumpkins the they stole from Collective Soul
@damiendyda8608
@damiendyda8608 3 года назад
@@jessejameskaine The melody has nothing in common in any way. Didnt now it was a 90s move. I was 10 when that song came out. But I appreciate the info.
@Neelo5000
@Neelo5000 3 года назад
I've liked both of these songs since they were released and never once thought to myself that they were all that similar.
@finncallahan8994
@finncallahan8994 2 года назад
I can’t say the same, The first time I heard Drown I thought it was shine because the intro and riff are alike with it just being a sort of crunchy guitar octave drop D melody
@willissudweeks1050
@willissudweeks1050 3 года назад
Lol he just never let it go that’s hilarious. I never have even thought about these song’s together. I guess I hear the resemblance but to me they are still totally different.
@ldstephens1439
@ldstephens1439 3 года назад
Billy Corgan is Uncle Fester from the Adams Family 😎
@deadbeatdynamo
@deadbeatdynamo 3 года назад
Nah. Uncle Fester had a sense of humor.
@kansascityshuffle8526
@kansascityshuffle8526 3 года назад
Duh da duh duh 🎶 You stole my riff!
@unknownentity2429
@unknownentity2429 Год назад
Except uglier
@krisfrederick5001
@krisfrederick5001 3 года назад
As a songwriter...old songs aren't "old"...they're still new to everyone that has yet to hear them.
@jstnxprsn
@jstnxprsn Год назад
To make your point, I never heard Shine until a few minutes ago.
@bradsully6620
@bradsully6620 2 года назад
Its sad I can't name one popular rock and roll band of today. I guess rock is dead and it's too bad, but we should be gearing up for a comeback. We need a nirvana like breakthrough at this point, and we need it bad.
@michaelsmith9610
@michaelsmith9610 3 года назад
Love both Collective Soul and Pumpkins. I’ve met Ed and he’s extremely nice.
@LRM5195
@LRM5195 6 месяцев назад
Seen Collective Soul 4 times now and will continue to see them as much as possible until I can’t. They are AMAZING live! So much energy and it’s crazy for how older they are. Ed moves like he’s in his 20’s. His voice sounds exactly like the albums. I’ve always been a sucker for that simple pop rock stuff and CS did it the best imo. Simple yet effective. Proof you don’t need to be technical to be a great songwriter. Their music has such an uplifting spiritual vibe to it :)
@AndyM.
@AndyM. 3 года назад
HA!!! I saw this title and I think you just need to create a 'Billy Corgan hates EVERYONE' playlist! You would have 100 videos in there! He is a real character!!!!!
@stevieboyXI
@stevieboyXI 3 года назад
You could make quite a few based on feuds between him and other SP members.
@fizzyfuzz5878
@fizzyfuzz5878 3 года назад
Crazy how fast The Smashing Pumpkins imploded after peaking with Mellon Collie.
@christopherm.6991
@christopherm.6991 3 года назад
Corgan hasn't done anything for over 25 years that mattered in music.
@jimwolabaugh3608
@jimwolabaugh3608 3 года назад
Sure he has... Just ask him!
@christopherm.6991
@christopherm.6991 3 года назад
@Christopher Bingham I agree, only thing is Billy tends to run his mouth. If he was cool and humble there prob wouldn't be any issue.
@ezdzit5330
@ezdzit5330 3 года назад
"Ed Roland produced a demo dating back to 1989" I NEED that demo tho....
@dkelley9661
@dkelley9661 4 дня назад
I have loved Collective Soul since first hearing them. Amazing writing, playing, great spirit and vibe! They have several hits which always made me very emotional, immediately upon hearing them. Billy Corgan and Smashing Pumpkins? Next!
@thatwhatisaid
@thatwhatisaid 3 года назад
Collective Soul is still putting out great music.. F Billy Corgan
@BATMAN7666
@BATMAN7666 3 года назад
Typical Billy still love that i saw them at Metro 6 months before they made it big! Despite Billy and his wars LOVE THE PUMPKINS. Billy just needs to LET THE LIGHT SHINE DOWN WOOOH 😳
@hectordeleon3408
@hectordeleon3408 3 года назад
OMG....Billy Corgan fought with everybody in his sight!!!! What a caracter...
@damiendyda8608
@damiendyda8608 3 года назад
Ya he reminds me of his ex girlfriend Courtney love. Lol
@hectordeleon3408
@hectordeleon3408 3 года назад
@@damiendyda8608 He dumped her or she dumped him???? LOL....
@roxannestorm2616
@roxannestorm2616 3 года назад
Billy Corgan has a delusional ego. Collective Soul Shine doesn't sound nothing like a Smashing Pumpkins song. Billy is so pissed off with his delusional ego because he's desperate for attention.
@damiendyda8608
@damiendyda8608 3 года назад
@@hectordeleon3408 She dumped him for Kurt. I saw a Billy Corgan interview where he said he was pissed that Kurt stole his lover and he was referring to Courtney as his lover.
@hectordeleon3408
@hectordeleon3408 3 года назад
@@damiendyda8608 so then he Feuded with Nirvana...???? LOL
@locks69
@locks69 3 года назад
Please stop saying "stay tuned for the full story"...I love your videos dude and have already clicked on it with the intent of watching the whole thing.
@jeremyellismusic
@jeremyellismusic 3 года назад
Wait, if Billy thinks it sounds like a Smashing Pumpkin rip-off, doesn't that mean he actually likes the song?
@RogueBoyScout
@RogueBoyScout 2 года назад
Ahh, it's like the chicken and the egg...
@technoforever888
@technoforever888 3 года назад
Acoustic intro doesn't equal a rip off. Both songs are good, but completely different. CS proved their point = get over it Billy.
@captainheh5826
@captainheh5826 3 года назад
Thanks for covering this!
@clouseaux
@clouseaux 3 года назад
You could do a 100 part series of Corgan's fueds with
@nickcharles6530
@nickcharles6530 3 года назад
I honestly thought that “Shine” sounds more like “Cherub Rock.” I don’t see a big similarity to “Drown,” though.
@averagetim6190
@averagetim6190 3 года назад
I agree, he had to have been pissed at CS for other reasons
@Carlos-xz3vi
@Carlos-xz3vi 3 года назад
“Cherub Rock” intro is a copy of Rush’s “Cygnus X-1 Book I: The Voyage".
@SlickBlackCadillac
@SlickBlackCadillac 3 года назад
@@Carlos-xz3vi I don't hear it. What part?
@darrenXparker
@darrenXparker 3 года назад
I can’t wait until my feud with Billy Corgan gets the spotlight.
@thebluefus
@thebluefus Год назад
Saw collective soul live last month. I’ll definitely see them again when I can
@miguelalfoya2031
@miguelalfoya2031 3 года назад
Two of my favorite bands! CS & SP
@gissellest333
@gissellest333 2 года назад
I love collective soul and still do.
@christophercirocco8611
@christophercirocco8611 3 года назад
Incredible
@Patrick_0n
@Patrick_0n 3 года назад
Great job Ed!
@orbiebibbee2998
@orbiebibbee2998 Год назад
I wrote "Shine" in 1988 but forgot about it till I heard the song. I have other songs like it. truth
@WillCate
@WillCate 3 года назад
Screw Corgan... Collective Soul records sound as great today as they did 25 years ago.
@jfiery
@jfiery 3 года назад
Thanks man!
@faithful360
@faithful360 2 года назад
Having listened to both songs, I am completely confused as to how Billy could conclude that drown sounds like shine - guess those grunge drugs really were mind altering.
@ja8ames
@ja8ames Год назад
I think that Snail might actually be the track -- there's a part when the distortion kicks in that does sound a lot like Shine. I've never thought that Drown fit the bill.
@infinidominion
@infinidominion 3 года назад
Even just the title is funny...bouta make some feud food for this
@likasumbooodi
@likasumbooodi 2 года назад
What a Kent. Shine is a way better song than any of Smashing Pumpkins songs anyhow. Where are they now? Collective Soul still going. Great band.
@csblame
@csblame 2 года назад
Being humble and treating your fans right goes a long way! I have met the guys in CS and they just love music and to perform. I never knew this beef was here between the two bands. I loved Smashing Pumkins back in the day and this makes me want to never listen to them again. Lol
@Eatmyshorts53
@Eatmyshorts53 11 месяцев назад
I was a teenager in the nineties and haven’t heard hear about this feud until now. Like the smashing Pumpkins. However, Collective Soul is my favorite band. Love most of there albums. If Billie wan’t to be that way, to bad. Rock on Collective Soul.
@edsnap
@edsnap 3 года назад
This informative, I never know this stories 👍🏻
@thejasonadamecomedyshow7646
@thejasonadamecomedyshow7646 3 года назад
I’m a long time collective soul fan I’ve been a fan since discipline breakdown.....please do a Bad Company video when Brian Howe was the singer and Brian Howes Passing
@mattcox3373
@mattcox3373 3 года назад
I don’t really see a big similarity in the 2
@Clayphish
@Clayphish 3 года назад
From what I remember reading.. the singer from collective soul was really into Kings X. This probably explains where this riff came from as it sounds very much inspired by what King’s X was doing in the late 80s.
@danielmarquis5258
@danielmarquis5258 3 года назад
I had NO idea about this. In the 90's, my love for Alt Rock was solid so I liked both Bands. I am surprised by Billy's attitude though.
@SamuraiXGray
@SamuraiXGray 3 года назад
Jeez how many feuds does billy corgan have!?
@michaelvanskike7512
@michaelvanskike7512 3 года назад
Listened to both, love both songs but might need to see that demo tape
@enslavedbyvegetables3407
@enslavedbyvegetables3407 3 года назад
Why does it seem like Billy had a feud with almost everybody
@motorcity7137
@motorcity7137 3 года назад
Nice still shot of Billy and his spare tire belly
@benjamins9121
@benjamins9121 3 года назад
Bro I totally forgot about this! I was racking my brain cause that guy with the SP comment. I remember bow it was drown, and the guy from CS had a demo tape of shine or something. Damn, I'm forgetting everything
@IOmunE
@IOmunE 2 года назад
Does anyone else find it ironic Billy “fucking hates” a song that he apparently “wrote first”?
@BornFromTheGrave
@BornFromTheGrave 3 года назад
I like both songs, "Shine" & "Drown".
@joeljameson4961
@joeljameson4961 20 дней назад
This band can't hold a candle to the catalog of Smashing pumpkins.
@endezeichengrimm
@endezeichengrimm Год назад
Love is in the water Love is in the air Show me where to look Tell me, will love be there? Will love be there?
@jonvia
@jonvia 2 года назад
Billy Corgan vs everyone!
@stevenpalty2027
@stevenpalty2027 Год назад
Collective Soul is a great band. Going to see them again in August. Ed Roland is a really cool guy. Corgan and Smashing Pumpkins, complete opposite on all counts.
@AuggieG42
@AuggieG42 3 года назад
It's quite a coincidence for both songs to sound similar . I didn't need to listen to Shine since it's etched in my memory. Listening to Drown , It is quite similar .
@blt4life112
@blt4life112 Год назад
"I look like a vampire"
@BeardofBeesPool
@BeardofBeesPool 3 года назад
Don't forget Chris Cornell, Eddie Vedder, Pavement, Thom York, Devi Ever, Mike Burn, Anderson Cooper.. A list of people Billy had feuds with or people he just hates..
@davidgalinat4257
@davidgalinat4257 3 года назад
Is there a 90's band Corgan DIDN'T have a feud with?
@MultiTexMex
@MultiTexMex 3 года назад
Lol BC fights with everyone, but I do like him. He’s a creative genius and mad respect for him.
@Doomzdayxx
@Doomzdayxx 3 года назад
Damn that dude had a feud with everybody. The songs are completely different.
@TheCr0wing
@TheCr0wing 3 года назад
What is the song you use in the background???? Really pretty
@TheQuadrum
@TheQuadrum Месяц назад
Shine has the word Heaven in it as does Stairway to Heaven. Bill Corgan was the first person to use the word “Heaven”. He tried to sue Led Zeppelin as well.
@dfailsthemost
@dfailsthemost 3 года назад
Definitely never thought it sounds like Pumpkins.
@drewmarrs9588
@drewmarrs9588 2 года назад
Hey guys welcome to billy Corgan true Rock and roll beefs
@accam6734
@accam6734 2 года назад
Hey! Billy! HA HA!
@ilfautvivreavecsontemps
@ilfautvivreavecsontemps 8 месяцев назад
Ed Roland’s a classy lad and always had a very good voice, not to mention Collective Soul’s lyrics were never pompous or see-through self-referential but more direct and still quite deep all the same.
@Vaudiven
@Vaudiven Год назад
preference aside, billy corgan is an extremely intelligent musician in all aspects of the term ive been watching them as since i was a kid on; despite being born the year gish came out; thankfully i had cool older brothers that showed me at age 4 what good music is and was.i play guitar myself for over 20 years and have had my own stories with the live performer career. collective soul i wont lie where outshined (soundgarden) by many other number one tracks popular at the time.
@alectucker9439
@alectucker9439 3 года назад
Billy Corgan: One of the most talented assholes to ever grace the earth.
@shadyburnike264
@shadyburnike264 3 года назад
Billy is high..we all played something like it at one point..the open string with the single note line is pretty common
@WayneKitching
@WayneKitching 29 дней назад
Somebody must do a mashup of Shine, Drown and Cherub Rock.
@ja8ames
@ja8ames Год назад
For what it's worth, the Pumpkins formed in 1988. Also there seems to be a debate on which SP song Corgan thinks that Shine is a rip-off of: Drown, Snail (probably my pick), Rhinoceros, etc.
@tricktaylor1983
@tricktaylor1983 3 года назад
I love Billy but he definitely lives in a self-lit spotlight. He tells a story about being tested at school and finding out he was a musical genius. Ive heard his father tell it too but... Question: What Chicago public school in the 70s or early 80s was testing kids for musical aptitude on a scale that they felt comfortable enough labeling someone a genius? Answer: there was Not one
@pyaesonekyaw6800
@pyaesonekyaw6800 2 месяца назад
It's funny I bought mellon collie and two Collective Soul albums (discipline breakdown, CollectiveSoul) together, but I didn't know they had a feud😅
@ericwelteroth9872
@ericwelteroth9872 3 года назад
Do you know about the rift between Danzig and Def Leppard?
@Carlos-xz3vi
@Carlos-xz3vi 3 года назад
I love the Smashing Pumpkins mostly because of Jimmy Chamberlin. But Billy lives in this sort of bubble that he thinks the worlds revolves around him and his band, and he thinks people still gives a flying crap about his many feuds.
@REPVILE
@REPVILE 3 года назад
The most forgotten music feud in history that no one cared about
@thoril.pegason
@thoril.pegason 3 года назад
Fact check: Smashing Pumpkins started in 1988, the lawsuit was over the song "Snail" not "Drown"
@piricsiremus2405
@piricsiremus2405 2 года назад
Makes even less sense the 2 songs don't sound anything alike.
@ja8ames
@ja8ames Год назад
Haha, I just posted the same comment a year too late.
@Nick-yk4pq
@Nick-yk4pq 3 года назад
Are you Canadian?
@lessthanthreemetal
@lessthanthreemetal 2 месяца назад
Billy clearly just wishes he wrote Shine.
@DIYTFY
@DIYTFY 3 года назад
Billy “Washed up” Corgan
@oldben1800
@oldben1800 Год назад
good ole Billy lol
@Jacob6853
@Jacob6853 3 года назад
Is there anybody Billy Corgan didn't feud with at this point? I mean half the vids in my feed involves him feuding with someone..
@lirpa5
@lirpa5 3 года назад
Come on Billy, Collective Soul is a long forgotten relic. Pumpkins are the better band. Leave it at that.
@tnightwolf
@tnightwolf Год назад
I do admit that the riff sounds extremely similar (considering it is played on a completely different style), but it is hard for me to understand why before making those kind of allegations, Billy simply didn't got in touch with Collective Soul to express his anger/frustration if he really was convinced it was a rip-off. Instead he got slammed with a certified-Master! If i was Collective Soul at the time, i would've counter-sued Smashing Pumpkins for plagiarism (with intention of dropping the case later-on) just for the lulz and to be able to witness Billy's facial expressions XD
@NJGuy1973
@NJGuy1973 3 года назад
I'm trying to make a list of people Billy Corgan has *not* feuded with. Can anyone help me?
@reprintranch
@reprintranch 3 года назад
I probably narrowly escaped it. I used to freelance for Spin magazine and was given a last-minute assignment to write a short piece about Smashing Pumpkins for a 1991 end-of-the-year retrospective focused on new bands. It seemed like a good idea to get a coupla quotes from Billy C and so I asked my editor, "can I get a quick phone interview with this guy?" My editor didn't just nix the idea but sounded scared, as though this was something I should never even think about requesting again. At the time I figured there was a previous problem between Corgan and Spin and they didn't need some metalhead nobody from Nowheresville complicating things. I wrote the piece, Spin ran it and no fallout ensued, so far as I know. But I've always wondered what sort of bullet (with butterfly wings) I might've dodged.
@NJGuy1973
@NJGuy1973 3 года назад
@@reprintranch I know a guy who knows guys who wrote for Spin. You've heard of six degrees of Kevin Bacon? I think everyone is connected by *four* degrees to a Billy Corgan feud.
@soulkiss1001
@soulkiss1001 2 месяца назад
at the end the voice got distorted and i couldnt tell for sure what corgan said about the instagram question "did you make peace with collective soul"? was the answer "I always hate collective soul,now and always' or what?
@allendixon7700
@allendixon7700 Год назад
Ax was the name of the group the song they had was called rock and roll party in the streets and it was kick a**
@redrock717
@redrock717 3 года назад
Billy seems like the kinda dude who is a drag to be around. Who does he not hate?
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