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Color Grade Like The Fabelmans 

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@leochilly
@leochilly Год назад
This is honestly a very destructive workflow. For 1 in the raw tab your converting the file to 709, and then your grading, basically you throw away all the advantages of raw and log, and conduct all of your grading on a 709 image. In the Raw tab the output should be redwidegamut log3g10 and you should really change from legacy to Ipp2. Secondly, besides the fact that a proper input gamma wasn't placed in your CST node to correctly use the film lut, you proceeded to use the color warper after the film lut, which led to a ton noise in your background that is clearly visible even after youtube compression. Additionally taking such a narrow approach such as the color warper to create what is a global overall look is very destructive as the effect will introduce a ton of issues when trying to using across multiple shots. Even using the depth mapper, which in itself is a useful tool, using it in this way is still such a narrow approach, when a power window could have produced the same affect in a much smoother, quicker and transferable way. I really appreciate Film Riot and all you give, but your color grading tutorials specifically have done a good job in showing people how granular you can get with the tools in resolve but has failed in showing proper workflows and logical approaches as when grading. Sure I can make 1 shot match using color warper and qualifiers and 3d keyers and magic mask, but can I transfer that look across a short film or a show? You want to approach your canvas with broad strokes, primaries, curves, you can very close to the fablemans look with just those tools, the film lut wasn't a bad idea but from a technical standpoint was implemented incorrectly. When you get to the finer details then you might want to breakout the small brush, qualifies, magic mask, color warper. I hope you don't take this as a shot but as constructive criticism to help you with continuing your efforts in educating people on the film industry.
@desronclarke3919
@desronclarke3919 Год назад
I'm final cut user trying to learn DaVinci and to be honest this shit sounds way to technical for me. Let me stay here in my little Final Cut corner and relax yes. But its nice listening to you guys that know your way around this software
@KaurH
@KaurH Год назад
Agreed. Fun fact, the color warper produces a 3D LUT internally, and as such is quite destructive.
@JordyField
@JordyField Год назад
100% right
@leochilly
@leochilly Год назад
@@desronclarke3919 it’s really not that bad, just a lot of misinformation and bad practices that abound. So it takes a lot of time to learn what’s right, what works, so on so forth, but it’s definitely worth it it.
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
@@desronclarke3919 Davinci has the best color grading but since I'm not a colorist...I just cheat and slap a lut on that I like. Am I going to win any awardsfor color grading? Nope. But story is #1 and a pleasant look is enough for me. If I have enough $$$, I'll hire a grader.
@JellyBraddock
@JellyBraddock Год назад
Can you make an episode on matching grades between shots? Especially with your more complicated grades like like the first one? The grade looks really complex and seemed tailored specifically to that shot (especially the depth map), and I’d be interested to see how to apply something like that across an entire project where a depth map may not be necessary at all
@Aldsomegaming
@Aldsomegaming Год назад
the part where josh says "Logo" is so nostalgic. I remember when I was like 13 when I first saw one of your vids. now I am 23 , still have the same shit pc but Its not stopping me from trying to render a 720p 1min clip for nearly an hour but damn the knowledge.
@KaurH
@KaurH Год назад
Some things about using the film look LUT are done incorrectly. The LUT expects actual film, but the next best thing we can provide is rec.709 as the gamut (color space) and Cineon Log as the gamma (tonal curve). Ryan only sets the output gamma as Cineon Log. This setup would presume that the incoming signal is already with a rec.709 gamut (color space) and that the timeline gamma is set to whatever the incoming signal's tone curve (gamma) is. The correct way in this case, as the footage is of gamut (color space) REDcolor4 and gamma REDgamma4 (as was set in the camera raw panel), would be to set the input color space to REDcolor4, the input gamma to REDgamma4, the output color space to rec.709 and the output gamma to Cineon Log. That being said, REDcolor4 and REDgamma4 are legacy color science and these days REDWideGamutRGB and RED Log3G10 are used instead. This is my 2c.
@he.smile_
@he.smile_ Год назад
Yup! Another technique I’m trying recently is using an ACES Transform OFX to transform to ADX10 instead of Cineon Film Log
@KaurH
@KaurH Год назад
​@@he.smile_Using ADX10 is another interesting take on it.
@uberjava
@uberjava 8 месяцев назад
Here in lies the difference between tutorials for the RU-vid generation and tutorials by Filmlight for working colourists.
@KaurH
@KaurH 8 месяцев назад
@@uberjava And don't get me started on all the wonderful LUT Packs that RU-vidrs sell (there are of course some actually good ones one there, but they're a needle in a haystack).
@uberjava
@uberjava 8 месяцев назад
@@KaurH Well ya.. it’s interesting that it’s become a thing for the masses, fuelled by free Davinci, affordable ‘cine’ kit and RU-vid. Whatever is technically correct in terms of workflows is secondary to getting views and selling subscriptions to asset sites. So don’t get mad at it all..
@post-man23
@post-man23 Год назад
Watching how close it was done is equally entertaining as watching the movie. I don't even have a video editing software on my pc or not intending to use one. You always did a great job on explaining things so that even an average film enthusiast like me can understand the process and enjoy.
@simonhuhn
@simonhuhn Год назад
Now apply this grade to whole feature film... This workflow will take a long time...I would never use powerwindows, only if it is absolutely necessary
@Charlie_lives
@Charlie_lives Год назад
@filmriot are we not gonna talk about hitting 2 million!?!?! Congratulations! Been watch way, way, way, wayyyyyyyyyyyyyy before a million lol. 12 years strong here! @filmriot
@CortesFantásticosOficial
@CortesFantásticosOficial Год назад
Can you recreate the look of Raiders Of The Lost Ark?
@UsrevealedTv
@UsrevealedTv Год назад
Happy new year Film Riot 🎥 🎞 🎦 🎬 📽 ✨, love u guys from over here 🇰🇪
@DavidWinstead
@DavidWinstead Год назад
Great color grading guys, those shots look amazing!! I learn so much from this and I thank you for sharing your knowledge.
@arcanoperuano
@arcanoperuano 4 месяца назад
Excelente video, colores muy bellos! Thank you!
@aubinspitzer
@aubinspitzer Год назад
Yes! I love some good resolve tutorials.
@imhoinmyhonestopinion9262
@imhoinmyhonestopinion9262 Год назад
Great video. I'm glad that you guys are showing more Davinci tutorials. Now if you could go back and remake all your previous videos using Resolve instead of Premiere, lol
@zahkilovett
@zahkilovett 7 месяцев назад
Great stuff, thanks for your breakdown!
@swissives
@swissives Год назад
This is awesome. Thanks for walking throught the steps. Great end result.
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop
@TheFilmmakersWorkshop Год назад
Always so detailed with the workflow. TQ
@jahanban
@jahanban Год назад
This is exactly what I was looking for.
@frankinblackpool
@frankinblackpool Год назад
If I had access to a RED camera or if I was given RED RAW footage to work with, then I most probably would be a Professional Colourist. And if I was a Pro Colourist, I would not be scouring RU-vid for tutorials on how to keep my client happy. But as it is, I'm a punter with a prosumer camera shooting in vLog 10bit 4:2:2. Maybe you could adapt your Tutorials to the vast majority of the RU-vid viewers and assume that they do NOT have access to +£30K rigs?
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
The info is transferrable with modification.
@frankinblackpool
@frankinblackpool Год назад
@@scottslotterbeck3796 The information is transferable with enough underpinning knowledge. And somebody with easy access to a RED camera or the footage from that camera to digitally manipulate in Resolve, won’t be trawling through RU-vid looking for tips how to best serve their client. If, on the other hand somebody found a random clip, on a copyright website like Artgrid, that they just wanted to experiment with then I doubt they would have that underpinning knowledge. There is nothing wrong with aspirational thought to wanting to have or use the best cameras money can buy. But in reality, the vast majority of people who watch this channel will have consumer cameras that produce Rec 709 8bit, or if they are lucky some version of log 10bit and do not have that underpinning knowledge.
@ivanknezevic2915
@ivanknezevic2915 Год назад
Do you guys have some masterclass on grading in DaVinci Resolve and why not?
@FancyDude
@FancyDude Год назад
Love your videos! They are really helpfull. Keep going!
@prodbyLOTI
@prodbyLOTI Год назад
crazy. i didn't know this movie even existed until you posted this video
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
Me neither. It is truly a beautiful look.
@rene.rodriguez
@rene.rodriguez Год назад
So good.
@KURBANOVPRODUCTION
@KURBANOVPRODUCTION Год назад
Thank you bro!
@micheltheodorou1110
@micheltheodorou1110 Год назад
Great video thanks RYAN 🙏
@XaviSanrat
@XaviSanrat Год назад
Janusz Kamiński's name is pronounced "yanush", just for the sake of future awesome videos 😅
@MylonasFilms
@MylonasFilms Год назад
magic mask is insane
@ADPWeddingFilms
@ADPWeddingFilms Год назад
Perfect tutorial
@adsmithtx
@adsmithtx Год назад
learned quit a bit from you video thanks
@2424rocket
@2424rocket Год назад
Pretty good video, the only point where I disagree is when you added sharpness. If you really look at the Fabelmens it’s not overly sharp, it’s soft… it’s that wonderful soft film look. And when you added sharpness you kind of ruined it… If anything I would’ve gone the other way and softened the man’s face.
@jaylamb218
@jaylamb218 Год назад
Another kickass episode of Film Riot! How can I secure a Red 4XL hoodie? Or Black. Thank you
@4008517517
@4008517517 Год назад
Please make a video about the ARRI Logc 4 LUT for the camera 35 and the DaVinci, thank you
@Monsoon41
@Monsoon41 Год назад
Can you do one for BABYLON
@mahmoudzhiri9448
@mahmoudzhiri9448 Год назад
this video rules
@therealgarciagamer
@therealgarciagamer Год назад
Can you possibly do a color grading tutorial based off the color grade of the HBO series The Last of Us?
@leebrandt8597
@leebrandt8597 3 месяца назад
Your explanations are waaaay to fast. In the magic mask, how did you get the character to show up by himself and the background invisible?
@theunboxnetwork
@theunboxnetwork Год назад
Is there a training video where one can learn davinci resolve completely.
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
All over the 'net. DaVinci has afew basic tutorials which can get you started. Color grading is an art, and it takes years to get excellent results. Hire an editor whose work you like.
@theunboxnetwork
@theunboxnetwork Год назад
@Scott Slotterbeck thanks for the reply. I use Premiere Pro to color grade, but I just wanted to learn DaVinci ins and outs because I heard it's excellent for color grading. I can color grade pretty well, I've been doing it for 7 years but not in DaVinci resolve.
@sadness212
@sadness212 Год назад
💚Great video as always 💚 How can you modify the colors of more than one shot in one scene?
@robertjerala3699
@robertjerala3699 Год назад
Hey Ryan, can I ask you what’s with the announcement of my rode reel winners
@jassimzolfeyartisr1999
@jassimzolfeyartisr1999 Год назад
👌👌👌
@metallpt147
@metallpt147 Год назад
Where was the Filmconvert Nitrate?! Lol
@GEMB996
@GEMB996 Год назад
Can you make more tutorials for davinci resolve
@adamjames8003
@adamjames8003 Год назад
But where’s intercept?
@jaysonfontela5761
@jaysonfontela5761 Год назад
👍
@workgmail2375
@workgmail2375 Год назад
Are you guys still going to do a video on Colourlab ai??
@desigr.__
@desigr.__ Год назад
Love from bihar
@scottslotterbeck3796
@scottslotterbeck3796 Год назад
They get paid by the hour. Or by the node.
@bookofkatherine
@bookofkatherine Год назад
More cemetary colors. I just click away these days. I don't want to be depressed.
@dp_zee
@dp_zee Год назад
Overkill grading.. 7 steps too many
@joshcopeland2930
@joshcopeland2930 Год назад
Hey why not try making the new avatar like your own animation and stuff, a parody
@sgtpepper54321
@sgtpepper54321 Год назад
bruh… you literally talk about Halation, you then click the “glow” effect right next to it adding more work for yourself that is just really not needed… Honestly i was looking to ignore the node tree but its just so honestly broken and complete overkill and I can’t watch anymore.
@thearabicdp
@thearabicdp Год назад
What?
@billybengi
@billybengi Год назад
2nd
@2424rocket
@2424rocket 6 месяцев назад
Could you talk any faster? You’re flying through this like there’s a fire in your house. And the other half of your video is basically a commercial. What a bunch of BS.
@filmriot
@filmriot 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for watching.
@apocryphal_man
@apocryphal_man Год назад
This whole workflow is a catastrophe… sorry guys, really dig your channel, but this is not worthy.
@io.universe5403
@io.universe5403 Год назад
First
@thevfxcaptain
@thevfxcaptain Год назад
3rd
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