Olivia Schack is now 24. She has been at the Colorado Mental Health Hospital in Pueblo for nearly a year as she is evaluated to see if she is competent to stand trial. Four times, experts have determined she is not.
@@kathynicholson103 this. and it creates a vicious cycle. they refuse medication and proper care, we can't force it unless they're locked up in centers. this girl for example has already made it clear she'll stop her meds once out. her family can't pin her down and force medicine in her mouth, that would interfere in her own human rights. there is no easy answer. many of the mentally unwell on the streets have this same story. there is help in many areas, but not all; and they need to be able to want it and comply with services many will not. so they just self medicate, get arrested for something, get clean and maybe well while in jail, let out, self medicate repeat.
As a psychiatric RN for 20+ years I have seen this more times than I can count. The system is broken. It is unethical and cruel. I couldnt be part of it another minute and retired early. It breaks my heart.
I wanted a career doing something like this, ironically I went crazy fairly young. Now I would never ever be a part of it, and I'm condemned to interact with it the rest of my life.
@@smokyquartz5817 You were spared to not be part of allopathic psychiatry in a work capacity. Please do not believe their lies that there is no hope. There is! There are many seemingly simple treatments to (dare I blaspheme western medicine and use the word cure) to effectively heal mental illness. All disease begins in the gut. Heal the gut; heal the brain. Research the gut-brain connection. Seek out a Nutritional Therapy Practioner in your area. Via the Nutritional Therapy Association. Research the Weston A. Price Foundation. Rebuild your gut biome. Refuse all antibiotics. Get as many probiotic foods into your body as possible. Heal and seal your gut. Big pharma is a lie from the pit of hell. I have witnessed both sides.
There is no help for mental patients, society would rather demonize them then help them. They are not criminals, they are sick. They need medical care, not criminal incarceration.
@@blue_moon6490 how would anyone know for sure? No one is keeping accurate statistical records of any sort are they. Its all part of the obfuscation methods used. That way there's no one to blame except the individual.
There is help. Just not enough help. Also, people ignorant on this matter, then make stuff up, only sabotage any and all efforts to improve the situation. So please stop making things up.😒
That money has nothing to do with the local and state funding for mental health care that would primarily be covering this. You did exactly what was expected though and attacked other poor and disenfranchised people rather than look at people really holding all the cards.
Great reply but unfortunately true. So they are so concerned about TIK TOCK but forget about food. gas and rent not to increase insurance premioums but yea I'm going to vote for you!
@@saragulati50 None of the people in power, or trying to get back into power, give a damn about the American people. All old men and women desperately trying to hold onto money and power.
Plenty for Americans, Republicans veto it over and over and over and over for the past 50 years I've been watching...now you kids are living the hard cold results.
This is what happened to my mother in th 1980s after Reagan got rid of longterm government funded psychiatric institutions. She ended up on the streets, doing survival sex work, and died fairly young.
Man. The way this country handled de-institutionalization is extraordinarily shameful. It was callous at best. I'm sorry your mother went through that.
Sorry but to blame Regan is disingenuous. This whole thing started with psychiatrists in the 50s and 60s who though to many people were institutionalized who should not have been. Yes when Regan was Governor his predecessor and he reduced the numbers in hospitals but did so at the urging of psychiatrists. This was pushed onto federal and mostly state governments by these so called experts who thought mental illness could be better managed on an outpatient basis. For a lot of people that just doesn’t work. I bet if you go back and really dig into this you will find a bunch of liberals were responsible for this. They mess up pretty much everything they touch. I’m sorry about your mom. No one should have to live like that.
@@patriciadaw1210 It is not at all disingenuous. You are rewriting history. It's pretty presumptuous that you think I haven't looked into it. You know, I actually was alive back then when it happened. Reagan indeed reduced funding to longterm mental institutions and pushed the legislation through congress. Sure, a lot of liberals did vote for it, and Carter wrongly signed for it. However, it was Reagan leading the effort.
@@cocoknows 😆 Carter just happened to sign for it. That speaks volumes about the validity of the previous comment. Presidents are not their own experts in most things--they can't be anymore than anyone else can. They depend on specialists advising them.
My daughter is now sitting in the hospital where she had to have open heart surgery to repair the damage she did stabbing herself 😢. Waiting on a bed to open somewhere in this state with a psych ward. It’s heartbreaking. She is begging for help. Prayers go out to this girl and her family. This country should be ashamed
Psychedelics saved me from years of uncontrollable depression, anxiety, smoking, and illicit pills addiction. Imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not, in a couple of years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.
Can you help me with a reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. It is very hard to get a reliable source here in Switzerland. Really need!
Yes, Sporeville. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD, and addiction... Mushrooms definitely made a huge difference to why I'm clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He's 59 & has many mental health issues plus probably CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD knows if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I remember in my son’s early years doing research on mental illness. One mother said she wished her child had cancer because people and doctors are more accepting and supportive for that diagnosis 😢
Complex social and mental illnesses are not permitted by most societies. If humans do not "fit in", they'll systematically be excommunicated over due months, years, or decades. It do be what it do be. #copium
So sad but so true. It’s a double whammy of fighting for your child and also being accused of causing the mental illness or being treated like it is a character flaw
@@johnhawthorn5393 don’t judge! Obviously you have no idea how hard it is to have a child who is DEAD being alive! You can’t reach them, you can have a conversation and reason with them about treatment and reason with them! Yes CANCER would be a much better desase than mental disorders when the system fails to support your child!
Our health"care" system has become a joke. It's all about money. Our whole country needs a massive overhaul! This poor young lady and her family. So sad.
@@CritterSitterofCary I know. It goes back to that. Now, the mentally ill are in very dire need. That, and Bush's "no kid left behind" initiative. Mentally ill children are also in mainstream classrooms in schools that are not equipped to help, either. It's such a mess.
This is so sad that money isn’t being used to help mental health, or homeless. Just seen another story stating that Cali can’t track where 20 Billion of homeless funding went all because of the disgusting corrupt! People need to start being held accountable for this!
Because she can't find help, you assume there's no funding for mental health services? Oh, bless your heart. There's funding. Just not enough, especially for supported housing.
It’s a global, as well as a national issue. Every state in this nation wastes tax dollars, taxpayer’s time and taxpayers patience. I guess they believe that it’s better to have individuals who are struggling, just float around out in society. …
Oh they know where it is or went, it just didn't go to where it was supposed to. Now they have to ante up. There is a lot of funding for mental health. There is also a rapid increase in the number of people with mental illness.
They started dumping the mentally ill on the streets of Downtown LA literally in their hospital robes about 20-24 years ago, local l.a. news covered it.
As a country, we need a new and improved version of asylum. I lost everything I own to an arson incident from a mentally unstable person. He is now free from jail and homeless. No one wins. I had a normal life, in a normal nice apartment complex. Never know who your neighbors are, could be violent and mentally ill.
In Canada I just go in and ask for adhd meds they send a social worker to my apartment to talk to me and see if I'm mayhbe living in squalor or have any other more serious mental issues....tell me what other serveices they can. You guys have a tough time with your right-wing veotoing everything for the people while passing everything for corporations and wars.
And who is going to staff and run those places. The real big problem that places like that is skilled and moral quality providers don't want to work in places like that. Those institutions usually draw the kind of staff that is incompetent, the morally corrupt, those fired from hospitals for various things and those who only see dollar signs for working there.
I am the mother of a young man (25) with autism. I could no longer live with him because it’s not living, it’s surviving. There are no friends (for anyone) no interests (except repetitive, nonsensical ones). There are the meltdowns and lashing out that I became too old to deal with. I love him so much and we did sooo much to help him, but at some pt you just run out of options. We are able to afford a PRIVATE residential forever school with lifelong learning and many constructive activities. We moved several states away from home so we could be local and have lots of weekends together. He really likes it there. Not a day goes by I don’t worry about the vast majority who won’t have that option. What is to become of them all????
Our system is so broken. And now this country is trying to criminalize homelessness. I’ve been in a behavioral hospital and they do not help you. If anything, they make everything worse.
They did not help YOU. YOUR experience is not everyone else's. They have saved my son's life, my life by helping him. Your experience is not the only experience and you claiming it is doesn't help anyone but it does hurt.
While homelessness itself is not criminal, the behavior that leads someone to be on the street almost always is. There is a small minority of street people out there who are clean and just want to be left alone. They respect private property rights and you never see them because they don't want to be seen. No problem there. The majority however, are keen to continue the illegal and self-destructive behavior in the midst of a law-abiding society, without shame and remorse. They care nothing for the rules of said society they feel entitled to receive benefits from. If we stop coddling that behavior and prosecute it, we will deter some of that behavior and free up resources for those legitimately suffering from mental stuff. There is a big difference between those on the street as a result of poor and impulsive lifestyle choices, and those there because they are unable to function. The two deserve very different approaches, and right now we are grouping them all together.
We have dealt with this for over a decade. Until our girl kills someone she will not be committed. Our child- in 30s now, is homeless and flops around from hospital to jail sail to hospital- always put back on the streets until her next disruption. She makes death threats, has attacked family members over the years.
I would like to say something without offending you, your family or daughter. If your daughter didnt act like this from her very youngest days, then sometimes a parasite in the body or brain can cause a lot of mental issues. Toxoplasmosis, giardia, tapeworms, etc. Sometimes the only symptoms are mental. In the United States, doctors don't ever check to see. Most doctors are clueless when it comes to parasites. There are particular blood tests and MRIs that they can do to find them. If you are offended by me saying this, just say so and I will delete my comment. I hope your family and your daughter get the proper help needed ❤
People with serious mental illness do much worse when unhoused and have no natural supports, like support from family. Emotional support, especially. It's also much easier to get someone on involuntary court ordered mental health treatment, which is done through each county's Mental Health Court. It's tough to do, as usually two or more people have to witness behaviors that would make them a danger to self or others, or persistently acutely disabled or gravely disabled. Every state has different laws on how to do this. It's easier to come up with a plan though, if the person has already been determined seriously mentally ill, as case management helps with the paperwork to get them forced into treatment.
In voluntary hold in my state is only for 72hours… and the “hold” is totally traumatic and though it might keep them from killing themself the trauma can worsten the conditions. People with serious mental health issues need care and comfort and its societies job to take care of the most vulnerable. They are not being taken care of and without a societal safety net we just see more and more terrible outcomes that cost more then if we just built the infrastructure that cares for the vulnerable people in society. The Billionaire class’ hoarding problem has to end it makes no sense and our society is crumbling.
There’s gotta be a group home that she can go into and be on medication. I guess half the battle is her taking the medicine or a psych ward where she can’t leave. It’s just unfortunate that she just doesn’t see the big picture or she can’t see on that medicine maybe they can give her a shot for being the medicine instead of taking a pilland she has to take it every day
Paramedic 23 years and I swear the law does nothing to protect the public and the people who have mental illnesses but they’ll lock them up once they have gone too far. It’s a sickening situation that nobody cares to address.
Drug induced mental psychosis isn’t black and white but a huge Gray area and families need to be more accountable for the damage they cause and stop with the victim mentality blaming the systems we all know to be failed..
🔘Jesus cast out demon spirits of people and when they were healed he said go and sin no more that no worse thing may happen to you. The wages of sins is death. That's why people must believe in Jesus , repent turn away from sins and get baptized to enter Paradise. Full salvation and Jesus teachings are in the gospel of Luke
Well, ofc "they lock them up when they have gone too far", just like anyone else. What's troubling here was that they seemed to criminalize "not going too far". It seemed like she was locked up for staying on the streets; I didn't really catch the "crime". Then the mom said she was told to criminalize her to get her help.. just stomach-churning stuff, really. I pray CO gets it's shhh together!🙏
I have a friend that went through this so much she has CPTSD. She's become a severe alcoholic. She was withdrawing horribly but mistreated badly in Dec last year. She was sent IVC all bc she stood up to a Dr at an ER invalidating her and gaslighting her. By the time she reached the psych hosp to intake, she was further traumatized. She was withdrawing already having a few auditory hallucinations from the alc,but that last trauma had her hearing things left and right. She's become so fed up w life that after 3.5 mo sober, she relapsed late April this year. Being just 1 of billions ppl, when we witness others like this, and it keeps piling up, not only do ppl like her develope existential dread, but it's why ppl like those in Philadelphia and San Francisco are so bad off with the fentanylOutbreak... 😑
In NY we have “Kendra’s Law”. If a judge finds a person to be a danger to themself or others (and they are non-compliant with their meds), the judge will order they be deemed AOT (Assisted Outpatient Treatment). AOT patients have nurses visit them daily to administer medication. If the patient refuses, they are committed to the psych ward involuntarily. Fortunately many medications are now available via injections which stay in the patient’s system for a month (that has helped tremendously for patients who are not safe when off their anti-psychotics)… I hope this family finds help🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻. Prayers to anyone out there affected by mental illness🙏🏼💜💜💜
but the concern of laws like that are forcing people to take medication against their will and doing things to their body. It's a complicated humane dilemma. The threshold for committing forced medication should remain high.
Set free to do what? Live on the street? Her family won't take her in after the violence. Someone will take her in, and they won't be very nice people...
I have a half sister with all these diagnoses along with NPD. She's a willing drifter that says she's been kicked out when that is false but always ends up back with her adopted mom.
Did you listen? Her mom said she will RUN AWAY to the streets and self medicate. She's done it before. She knows what it's like now to get treatment, but she will refuse it once she has the choice. It's very common. No one wants to see people locked up, but most will not continue treatment on their own. What would you do? I feel bad for the Mom.
@@user-dw1ls3rp1l Not really. You implied that the mom won't take her back, when she has tried for years. This young woman is clearly making a choice to live on the streets so she can self medicate. She is not safe to live on her own, but she won't stay with her mom, because that would mean she must stay on meds that help her. Since our society has decided not to commit people against their will for their own health and safety, this will continue to happen.
@@kathynicholson103 I flat-out said her mom won't take her back, because whatever shred of tolerance she has for her behavior is wearing REAL thin, and eventually mom will have to consider her own safety and that of her home. There is only so much you can do for your kid if they won't meet you halfway. Almost all parents of adult wayward offspring draw the line eventually, so I'm just playing the odds here. But, this little debate of ours won't change a thing. Her prospects are dim.
The same situation happened with my mother. She was diagnosed with schizophrenia back in 2011 after we got an emergency petition to get her a psych evaluation. She was transported between four different hospitals until she finally walked out of the last one in late 2011. She lived on the streets for a little over 11 years until she became physically ill. To make a long story short, she had two strokes, gangrene, frostbite and had to get both her legs and knees amputated in 2023. She spent a total of two months in the hospital until they transferred her to a nursing home last March. What happened to my mom is a perfect example of a broken mental health care system. The system didn't care once she was homeless and on the streets and would've cared even less had she died. The only reason why she's getting care now is because she became physically ill.
Pray's should be towards the state to "actually" care about its citizens so thousands of families going through this can get the support they truly need
I feel for this mom deeply because I can so relate. My 33 year old son has been struggling with mental illness since he was about 16. It's a nightmare. As a parent you feel so helpless when they are their worst enemy.
Simple: group homes aren’t paid enough for the amount of work and liability that goes on. Not enough employees willing to work this type of job. Even if you paid an aid above market value, the owner would have to make sure the meds are correctly given and be on top 24/7 that there is no abuse. With inflation and taxes on the rise there is no wonder group homes are closing down and people are on the streets.
Reason is...unfortunately there is often no " cure " for mental illness 😢 Where as illegal immigrants may just be productive citizens in the end that needed to relocate to be given a chance. Generally those with mental illness have been given many and then when it doesn't help, people stop throwing money at it.
White peoples blood is extremely alien to this continent hence why the whites in America are red and not white like European whites you’re out of your natural habitat when whites first landed on the continent it was more strange than a ufo landing on earth today
As a person with Schizoaffective disorder, my situation is the complete opposite. My family could care less about me, but against the odds, I've stayed on my medication, have gone to school and I've worked. I would say I have two advantages over her that have made me successful with my Schizoaffective disorder: 1) I've had extensive therapy for two years when my condition started, 2) my condition was caught very early. The one thing that keeps coming up in my head is that, if she's not taking her pills, then she's too sick to go that route. Pills are usually for patients that have shown enough levels of autonomy and responsibility. I wish I could tell her family that they have injections for certain psychotropic medications. Injections of Invega Sustenna helped me become very stable and right-minded. While Invega Sustenna lasts 1 month, I've heard Invega Trinza lasts 3 months. I think I've even heard of a 6-month lasting medication (I don't know the name though). For someone in her situation, these medications would be her best solution. Especially when she leaves for months at a time.
She’s probably psychic. I see and film spirits. Lucky for me they show on camera so everyone knows I’m not delusional. She should try the velo technique. It created a buffer and low vibe spirits are not able to get close because I balanced my energy. The lady who developed it is a consciousness expert. Every psychotic person should try it because it can help to some degree not saying everything is spiritual but I didn’t believe in spirits until I started filming the orbs.
A lot of the time the pills have worse side effects anyway. This young lady needs to step off the street drugs and talk to a psychologist but more likely she will end up dead in the street. Not many good options for her other than sitting in an asylum or trying to work a job she would probably be fired from. I don't think your case was nearly as severe especially since it was caught early. One can hope America would help people but no we treat low class citizens like they are worthless.
This is a tricky situation as she is an adult. My family has faced a similar situation where I was in jail but the HUGE difference is my clinical diagnosis, and I decided to take my prescribed medication. I also did NOT have an active drug problem. I am an addict in recovery. This situation hits me in my feels.
I am also bipolar type 2. I take medication and stay away from drugs and alcohol. Life isn’t always easy but no one says it would be. I live a good life and wish everyone with a mental illness could too.
As a wife who has been married to my husband for 34 years, who has bpd, as well as 3 kids, 2 who have ptsd/depression and anxiety, I understand all to well what this family is battling. If you're reading this comment, don't try to battle this alone. Call out to the good Lord! He is real and wants to help your family!! And if you already know him, don't stop praying and leaning on him. He'll get you through. My oldest, who is one of the 2 who battles the depression and anxiety, became a phych nurse and absolutely loves her job. ❤️
Been there, done that. As of today, my daughter with a diagnosis of paranoid schizophrenia, 4:16 is getting treatment because she has been concerved by the county. Its been hell for 13 year's. Finally, we're very grateful
This is about money. It's expensive to keep people in an institution, so they are thrown out even if they are incapable of caring for themselves. There are not enough group homes, and staff there can't stop people from going out and getting into trouble because they are too mentally ill to make sensible decisions. We just gave another $60 billion to Ukraine to profit corrupt politicians and weapons manufacturers. That money could have gone to the states for mental institutions.
They used Willowbrook as an excuse to vilify the whole concept of institutions and shut them all down. That was the original seed for an explosion of homeless, people who just CAN’t “do life” in a very harsh world😞
@@SamStone1964tell me you never worked in a group home with patients without telling me this. Money matters. You need money to pay employees, you need money to pay liability, money to pay taxes and insurance. Compassion doesn’t pay for the inflation going on, nor does it pay the salary your employee deserves after being abused by a schizophrenic. If compassion is all you need then parents and family members should take these patients in at no cost. Support and responsibility costs money. No one will look after someone who is threat to society or themselves for free.
We can spend 8 billion dollars on a submarine. We can spend billions on the wages of footballers. It's really not about the money. It's about a society who places the wellbeing of our fellow human beings way down on the list of priorities.
I myself suffer from schizoaffective disorder. I heard voices and phantom music. I had a serious problem with paranoia. I had (and still have) extreme insomnia. It took ages for me to get help. And when I was in a psychiatric hospital (two different ones) the environment was horrible, though the staff worked very hard. I’m still “eccentric” but with the wonderful support system I have, I am doing well. I can’t imagine where I would be without the treatment, medication, and support system I have. I doubt I’d be alive.
My dad needed to see a urologist asap & no one would see him sooner than 3 wks from getting a referral. Only option was pain meds until then or get him admitted to the ER. disgusting that neither party sees this as a public emergency & our current medical system is a disaster
I was on the very same rollercoaster for 25 years with my 2 sons, dont give up. They are both taking their meds finally now for 5 years and life feels kinda normal, what ever that is haha. hang in there and pray a lot.
There’s an AMAZING woman in her 30’s that has a RU-vid channel called Living Well With Schizophrenia. I believe she has the same diagnosis as this young woman. 4 ish mos ago she went on a Ketogenic diet under medical supervision and has thus far reduced her meds by 60%, and is having NO SYMPTOMS. Her name is Lauren and she’s a married young mother who was also experiencing hearing voices and having to be hospitalized periodically. Find her channel and see if your child might be willing to try the Ketogenic diet for a way to a much better life. 🥰
Diet effects diseases so strongly, including mental health. A study showed schizophrenics had worse symptoms after eating wheat pasta meals for example.
Diets can be great, but this woman is clearly too thin for a strict keto diet. And she needs to get to a certain point before she can really stick to a diet plan
@@carlycrays2831 It’s not about restricting calories for weight loss, it’s about going into ketosis. Unless you are familiar with the newer research in psychiatry and the effects of certain ingredients on the whole body, you may want to read up on it.
One of my family members is going through this with her schizophrenic son. He is an adult and refuses treatment, but is very ill. She has tried everything. He is now homeless and at risk. There is no help in Colorado for people in this situation. If anyone has advice, please share.
i'm sorry to say this but it's often the result of family dynamics that have been going wrong for a very long time. the parents are usually in denial and unwilling to admit their own mistakes and end up blaming and gaslighting the child for their symptoms and using the "mental illness" to gain more control over them, sometimes without realizing it. they think they are trying to "help" when really they are trying to force their loved one to be someone who they are not, because they are failing to love them unconditionally as they are.
@@boomeradley8748 I’m not sorry to say this: you have no idea what you’re talking about. The cause of schizophrenia is not known, and it is idiotic to make those kind of statements about people you know nothing about.
I don't blame him for refusing the phony treatment that will only make the condition worse, pumping dangerous toxic drugs into someone body is shameful and not a treatment, you probably believe is the stupid "treatment" because some scammer doctor.
My meds barely work for my mental health problems so I really feel for someone who is really struggling. We care more about the money and costs than really helping someone.
This was me almost 3 years ago, I couldn't see how sick I was and how much I needed treatment. I wasn't ever arrested but I was placed in long-term care for the second time in my life at age 21. I'm still in the facility but getting ready to discharge and it's terrifying how messed up the mental health system is and how it fails so many. I worry about my future and ending back in a situation like Oliva's and I feel so much of this could be fixed if only the funding and support were there. I understand the logic behind why they closed so many hospitals but it's clear the decision was made by people with no experience in this world. Some people (like me) really need treatment that isn't possible any other. way. So many of my fellow patients are exactly like Oliva and it's just sad because we are more than mentally ill and at the end of the day that's all so many people see.
Keep fighting and please stay on your meds my best friend has bipolar and schizophrenia. He refuses to take meds and it’s heartbreaking because he has no self awareness whatsoever right now and he is so sweet and super intelligent. He could have a great life if he would stay on his meds.. I’m proud to hear you got help and continue to get better I know it’s a life long struggle. I hope you have good support and a great life. Your young don’t give up. 🙏🥰
I caught on to the “demons” term as something the young lady uses (and possibly her family). I get what you’re saying, but the young is severely impaired and I think those are the words she reaches for when she attempts to communicate how she feels. That’s 3 entirely consuming diagnoses she’s battling at the same time.
Well I mean some ppl not all but some of us that hear voices. Hear ppl saying nothing but evil things in our ears and to us and they are by definition demons. I wouldn't claim them to be my demons by any means but they are demons that attack me regularly.
Thank you for reporting on this. I really hope you relentlessly pursue this issue, it is perfectly clear what needs to be done. We are all affected by shameful policies that leave the ill twisting in the win.
As someone who struggles with mental illness, I can say that even though mine is just depression and anxiety and CPTSD I can say even I have had hard times getting help. But some one like this poor young woman and her family having less options the me it kind of makes me sick that we in 2024 still have not come up with options besides throwing the mentally ill in jails. Jails are for criminals not mentally ill who may be so bad they don’t even know who they are. Most with proper help could lead some what normal lives and not struggle as much. Even if limited to some point. Severe mental illness is hard and horrible for all in the persons life and of course the person themselves even if they don’t know they are struggling. What a sad story. We have to do better this is unacceptable period.
This is truth they tried doing the same to my son, they cause the problems! Strong arm you when you speak up! Keep fighting for them! We are their voices!
I have the same diagnosis' and was homeless and being trafficked for 7 years. My parents let me move back in with them, get sober and now im on SSI about to move out in a few weeks. I don't know this girl or her personal struggles but if her parents can just help her get on some sort of disability I think that would help her and if she was on disability and could get section 8 and her own place youd think that she'd want to stay off the streets. These things take a lot of time but she seems to have great family support. I wish them all the best. ♥️
We have shunned the people that need our help the most, put them on the streets, and given them no resources. When did kindness, empathy, and WWJD turn into callous abandonment of the most needy? I believe in lifting up, not punching down.
If someone is deemed permanently incompetent, the parents can easily get permanent guardianship. That means that parents are permanently her parents, and she has permanent minor status. If she leaves their home, they can have the police bring her back, every time. There's really nothing else to be done. The first thing that the parents should do, once they have guardianship, is get an IUD for her, so that if she forays off, at least she will not get pregnant.
My heart aches for this Mom!!! That’s her baby. She has tried and tried. How do we, as a nation demand more from the people who are supposed to be running it???
The daughter is sleeping on the streets and doing drugs. What is there for this young lady, working at KFC where she would probably get fired? Sitting in a mental institute for the rest of her life? Honestly she might be picking the best option but that's how America treats the lower class citizens.
Sounds like the life story of my best friend… he died about year ago, he set himself on fire, died 2 days later, burned down to his organs on 90% of his body. In jail he was in general population and was a big target because of it. One time they forced him to shower physically, smh. Jail ain’t the right place for her either
Yes, it was under the Reagan administration, BUT it was the civil right activists that pushed this, and he had to sign it. I remember when a lot of the hospitals closed. Homelessness , mass shootings and the like has become the norm. Sad , so very sad.
I wish I could talk to her. I went through the same exact things with bipolar until I found god. Every once in a while I hear one of the demons trying to say something but they fear me now because I know that God is on my side. It has completely changed my life. I was so scared before and the demons were so loud and constantly yelling and trying to scare me so much that I literally couldn't sleep. I wish she knew that God is with her, it could change everything.
Sounds exactly like my daughter. She’s in treatment now, but she’s still a mess. She’s off the heroin and not sleeping on the streets. We could’ve gotten her disability, but she refused because she believed that she could get a job. She couldn’t hold a job. There’s no way. It was an absolute nightmare raising her. Her sister, on the other hand, received a 160k college scholarship and works for a law firm. It’s like night and day.
One of the biggest problems aboit running psych wards is who is going to staff and run those places. The real problem about places like that is skilled and moral quality providers don't want to work in places like that. Those institutions usually draw the kind of staff that is incompetent, the morally corrupt, those fired from hospitals for various things and those who only see dollar signs for working there.
No one wants to work in nursing homes. The risk is not worth the pay. Also the government is trying to infuse criminals with people who are non criminals in these places. No one wants to be an owner of a psych ward either. Why would anyone want to risk their lives that way? You are threatened by the patient, their family members, case workers, DCF ,etc. That is why there is a huge shortage of facilities.
The psychiatrists who work at psych wards are also usually not very caring people. They are not giving real patient care they do team evaluations and try to pump as much drugs into whomever as they can give. More psychiatric drugs = More money for the hospital.
Stop blaming the government for things it can't possibly control. Go vote Democrat so you can pretend they care and you can feel all warm and fuzzy inside.
I live in Michigan and this is the same case here. Even for minors (they get 14 days in a evaluation facility, given medication, and released). I have a niece who will turn 18 in July and we already can see she will be on the streets (she will not follow basic rules at home - take medication, pick up after yourself). Mental illness is very rough for everyone involved.
please know your niece is a human being who is so much more than just a mental illness and her worth goes far beyond following "rules." mental health can improve with the right kind of supportive people within a supportive environment.
A friend I had many years ago was trying to find help for his mentally ill son with no luck. His son ended up stabbing my friend to death. His son is now in prison.
THIS!!!! is my life with my son. I feel so bad for the parents because there isn't any help available. My choice was to file to take my son's rights away and I am his guardian. But that being said it is still a heartbreaking situation,
There is, it is called Medicaid and adults with certain disorders get assigned case workers. What do you think happens to all these adults with mental health after their family dies?
It is SUPPOSED to be a crime for a hospital or mental health facility to discharge someone to the streets when they clearly cannot take care of themself.
Not sure if it's possible in Colorado, but the family really needs to try to get conservatorship over her so she can be committed and get the treatment she needs.
My sister has a 42 year old bipolar son. It’s been hell on earth- he still lives at home. My sister has so many health issues because of it. I have a 38 year old son that also is struggling but have not seen him for 7 years. He’s messed up with identity issues and major depressive disorder. Really all we can do is pray because you can’t control the issue so you have to let go.
Parents will always blame the kids. It's the parents and modern society who brought them to be like this. This type of thing was extremely uncommon 60 years ago but now when you can't afford basic needs with wages, people wonder why it's normal. Not to mention parents who came from a dumb dumb generation with no internet or intelligence. The modern youth are expected to survive but taught nothing by their lazy parents and given nothing from society except " just work harder ".
@@Navi_xoo I’ve seen a lot in my years. I’ve learned that you can not pin point one thing o it’s own. It’s the old nurture verses nature argument . Life is very long ,complicated and can be difficult for many. It is best to show compassion .
In my view, this situation is one of the top three most pressing issues in the US. When so many mental institutions were closed during the 70s, it was due to concerns with patient treatment. Instead of improving the institutions, they just shut the doors of many. There were proposals for more community-based care, but at the end of the day, these services never materialized or were lacking in funds. Now, we just treat the mentally ill by imprisoning them or letting them disintegrate on the streets to abuse or be abused. In many we ways, we are more barbaric today in how we treat the mentally ill than the 70s and families are left with little to no resources.
My friend from high school was released from mental hospital and threw herself in front of a train. Her mom was chasing her and she turned around and smirked at her then left this horrible planet.
Some individuals cannot rectify the human, mortal experience. Existence is definitely not easy, but it's meant to prepare the soul for what's coming *next*. Without that preparation... it's, uhmmm... it's gonna be rough. 😕 Rougher than mortality, but in extraordinarily different ways. 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ "Before I start, I must see my end. Destination known, my mind's journey now begins. Upon my chariot, heart and soul's fate revealed. In time, all points converge, hope's strength resteeled. But to earn final peace at the universe's endless refrain, we must see all in nothingness... before we start again." 🐲✨🐲✨🐲✨ --Diamond Dragons
Probably because the stay made her feel even worse. Many people commit right after they get out or not long after because they are afraid of losing their change again and are also further traumatized by the mental health system and it’s criminalization of mental distress (often caused by external or societal problems).
It’s hard to do this as parents but they did exactly what they should have done to keep her, them and others safe. I wish others would do this if necessary. It’s a big shame our system is so messed up that there is no where for her. This country shut down most facilities where people like this could go in the past. That is what causes this horrific homeless problem. Some people just cannot live outside a facility because they will stop taking their meds. We need to stop sending our tax dollars to other countries while ignoring our own people who need help. Our government is supposed to be representing us. It is absurd how they ignore our wishes and just do whatever they want with our money. This won’t stop until we make it stop.
My fiancée has schizophrenia. He constantly hears terrifying voices, couldn’t work well (he tried many, MANY minimum wage jobs). Before we met, he lived day-by-day in a MOTEL in a rural, small town because of outrageous rental costs. It’s worse than being in prison. At least prison is guaranteed shelter and food. People with severe mental health are discarded like trash, blamed for the condition they did not choose to have.
This is outrageous! This girl is a danger to herself and others. She desperately needs help. Clearly, she was getting help and felt safe in a facility. That’s where she needs to be!
I have seen this happen in real life. Mental health services were called when a local man went off his meds. He convinced MH services that he was fine somehow but he surely was not. Eventually the police were called and he spent a year in jail before he was transferred to mental health services. He was in assisted living for another year and then turned loose where he again stopped taking his meds and the cycle continues. It is madness for the families of people who have mental illness.
Can't the parents get legal guardianship or conservator status for this adult daughter now that she is declared permanently incompetent? Without being her guardian, they really don't have any say regardless of the heartbreaking situation. I feel sad for all of them.
So many families including my own are caught up in this cycle with no end in sight. Yes, they are adults but when they have clearly demonstrated that they cannot make sound decisions for themselves someone needs to do it for them. Closing all of the mental institutions because of the abuses was well intentioned but has just created another problem. Many end up homeless being preyed on or preying on other people.
Yup. Been there. Still there too. Trying to get help is a nightmare. You have to wait until that moment they are lucid and ask for help but it seems if they know their name and basic info they are released. The longer you are untreated the harder it is to stabilize. My daughter, 28 has the mentality of a teenager. Once the real mental illness kicks in, that's it.
