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Coltrane Changes outside of Jazz? 

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Coltrane Changes and 3 Tonic Systems appearing outside of jazz? Take a look.
Tunes used in the video:
The Bartender - me lol: • The Bartender (2019) -...
Have You Met Miss Jones - Scatman John: • Have You Met Miss Jone...
My Time - Bo En: • bo en - my time
Knights of Cydonia - Muse: • Muse - Knights Of Cydo...
Let's Ride - Q-tip: • Q-Tip - Let's Ride (Vi...
Gaspard De La Nuit - Ravel: • Pogorelich plays Ravel...
PDFs of each transcription if you're into that sorta thing:
puu.sh/G5lFF/7d97e2425c.pdf
Let me know in the comments if you guys know of any other tunes with trane changes or 3 tonic systems!
First actual vid so soz if anything sucks lmao.

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@irresponsibledad
@irresponsibledad 3 года назад
Ravel was the original jazzposter
@demian04_rta
@demian04_rta Год назад
And Stravinsky too
@slurky3992
@slurky3992 Год назад
bach
@zon6158
@zon6158 2 года назад
0:10 you can’t escape from the lick also in the intro
@csfarnsworth14
@csfarnsworth14 3 года назад
I CACKLED when you played the Ravel. It is simultaneously beautiful and EXTREMELY CURSED. Bravo
@halcyonacoustic7366
@halcyonacoustic7366 3 года назад
The altered dominants are tasty. 😋
@radu6772
@radu6772 2 года назад
My fav part in ondine, ravel music has so much flavor
@florencelingaynemusic
@florencelingaynemusic 4 года назад
Of course it’d be Ravel to do something that jazzy 😂
@sucroseboy4940
@sucroseboy4940 3 года назад
Just started watching and im just waiting to hear her mention how Coltrane stole the Coltrane changes from ravel
@thecactus7950
@thecactus7950 2 года назад
@@sucroseboy4940 Noone stole anything from anyone. music is music. if someone having done something before you means its stealing, every musician is a thief, and only made maybe 1% of their own music if even that, most probably never made something original.
@sucroseboy4940
@sucroseboy4940 2 года назад
@@thecactus7950 Well it was just a joke. It’s not like theres anything wrong with being inspired in your musical writing. One of my favorite composers Sergei Bortkiewicz uses a specific pattern, which he definitely got from Rachmaninoff’s second concerto. Yet hus use of this is quite beautiful and unique.
@tweer64
@tweer64 Год назад
Hearing Giant Steps in Gaspard de la Nuit, is like hearing the Lick in the Firebird.
@rokronroff
@rokronroff 2 года назад
Hearing Jazz-era Scatman John in this video was a blessing.
@theophileo
@theophileo 4 года назад
Love the vox like analysis paired with the old internet vibe of small channels
@slybear525
@slybear525 Год назад
Coltrane picked up on the three tonic system when studying symmetrical scales and progressions found in Nicolas Slonimski's Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns. He was simply looking for new ways to express what he was feeling. He never claimed to have invented the system and probably would have felt funny if he knew that one day the system would be called Coltrane Changes. Still, it is without a doubt that it is his music that bought this system to world wide recognition and Giant Steps and Coltrane are what people think of when this sound and system come to mind. Coltrane demonstrated that these changes could substitute for and even overlap the tradition iV V I and ii V I progressions as he demonstrated in his modal and avant-garde compositions which followed Giant Steps. It is here were Coltrane created previously unheard of musical possibilities.
@Salune
@Salune 2 года назад
2:50 it’s weird, I was recently looking at Coltrane changes on a midi string patch and thought “wow that really reminds me of bo en. Now I’ve randomly clicked on this video and here it is. Funny.
@musicmaker2645
@musicmaker2645 4 года назад
I appreciate the way you said the words coltrane changes and jazz and twelve notes and circle of fifths and proximity
@b.braveproductions323
@b.braveproductions323 29 дней назад
Bo En’s 2013 album Pale Machine (the one that My Time is from) uses the Coltrane changes as it’s main motif, starting with it in the intro, and all culminating in My Time at the end
@DaveBassDotCom
@DaveBassDotCom 6 месяцев назад
Most jazz musicians know about how Trane was infatuated with the bridge of "Have you Met Miss Jones" and went through a period of shedding it constantly. Also, 2300 Skidoo by Herbie Nichols also touches on this type of movement - before Giant Steps.
@iamthemoneyj
@iamthemoneyj 3 года назад
3:39 the lick! (Almost)
@Emiliasooo
@Emiliasooo Месяц назад
Wuw, I always knew it. Ravel was the most important precursor for Jazz. Ravel is the GOAT in all genres!
@MeI-ct4dv
@MeI-ct4dv 3 года назад
Why does this not have more views >:(
@joshcharlat850
@joshcharlat850 Год назад
Thank you. Nicely done. Good pacing on your delivery.
@JasminosMicinos
@JasminosMicinos 3 года назад
I enjoy your explanation! Looking forward for another quality content
@Cdsv95
@Cdsv95 Год назад
Love your work!
@theophileo
@theophileo 4 года назад
Great video love the format, now I absolutely want to see the next one
@Noke703
@Noke703 10 месяцев назад
Great video. It's clear, easy to follow, and incredibly high quality.
@Jack-ts1sv
@Jack-ts1sv 3 года назад
This just came up in my recommended and it is AWESOME!
@bradleybaas4862
@bradleybaas4862 3 года назад
great video! i didn’t realize the B section of Have You Met Miss Jones was on coltrane changes until i took a closer listen to what was going on. It’s really interesting to see everywhere else the changes are used as well.
@dylansloth
@dylansloth 2 года назад
such a cool video, thank you for making it!
@GuGus963
@GuGus963 3 года назад
Just watched this video, it's great! Your channel truly deserves hundred thousand of subs, Adam Neely and Twelvetone-like quality right there ! Subscribed!
@th.nd.r
@th.nd.r 2 года назад
Muse fan here, my day was made!
@Beatboxmarimba
@Beatboxmarimba 4 года назад
That was pretty neat! The video was very clear, informative, and well laid out Thanks for the explanation at the beginning. I had no idea what Coltrane Changes were, but now I'm curious and inspired Looking forward to future videos! (Whether they be songs or music theory. Love your work!)
@nickcox7244
@nickcox7244 3 года назад
I sorta intuitively knew what Coltrane Changes were, but this was a phenomenal explanation of it that made my knowledge more explicit. So thank you!
@eelamite
@eelamite 2 года назад
you are a literal godsend for introducing us to My time and Revel (?)'s tune predating giant steps! also rip dilla
@myautuu
@myautuu 3 года назад
This is very informative and interesting! I hope your channel become famous soon!
@joeyshuster8569
@joeyshuster8569 2 года назад
This channel is what i needed. big ups to the yt algorithm!!
@mattkane357
@mattkane357 2 года назад
Doing omori music made me very happy!
@orinking8064
@orinking8064 3 года назад
i fucking love My Time and the album it comes from, Pale Machine. thanks for the video!!
@jeromemeltzermusic1493
@jeromemeltzermusic1493 7 месяцев назад
Great video and fascinating with the Ravel.
@frug4681
@frug4681 Месяц назад
pale machine jumpscare! the whole album is filled with those chords in my time, its what got me into jazz!
@qazwsxqwaszxzaqxswxz
@qazwsxqwaszxzaqxswxz 4 года назад
Great start with the new format! There's lots of space in the youtube music analysis scene and it's just a matter of time when you'll be one of the big ones (if that's what you want anyway). The content is already there, just a bit of finetuning will work wonders. A bit slower speech tempo might do good. My personal advice is to embrace your humour even more. The reason I'm subbed is the truly personal Andrew Huang -collab video where you play the quirkiest melody known to man with absolutely no emotion on your face. But no need to try any tricks :) just do you, and by experience you'll see what works well and and what not. The algorithm is a tough opponent, don't give up if it fights back in the beginning. Good luck on your path!
@CadenceHira
@CadenceHira 4 года назад
thanks for the advice and kind words! will def consider everything (especially the talking slower bit lol i need to work on that lmao)
@Pkmn20
@Pkmn20 3 года назад
Cadence Hira i love this vid hahah - just chiming in to say that i enjoy the fast speech tempo! although i guess some people may have trouble with it... would captions be helpful?
@CadenceHira
@CadenceHira 3 года назад
@@Pkmn20 thanks! i actually checked a few of the videos and youtube's auto-generated captions look pretty spot on so far
@arunthebuffoon4554
@arunthebuffoon4554 3 года назад
​@@CadenceHira I wouldn't worry about pace too much, since other educational RU-vidrs speak at a similar pace Your narration reminds me a bit of Jessica Oreck on Ted Ed! Another tip would be to focus on your overall brand: thumbnails, fonts and video titles. Good examples of thumbnails would be Adam Neely, Tantacrul, etc.
@arunthebuffoon4554
@arunthebuffoon4554 3 года назад
@@CadenceHira For fun, I shittily reproduced one of your thumbnails. photos.app.goo.gl/N4oUKLtGiUfuXTMZ7
@PointLobo
@PointLobo 2 года назад
Glad you mentioned Let's Ride! btw that Q-Tip beat was produced by J Dilla, or as he was known back then, Jay Dee. When that song first came out it blew my mind and was my first introduction to Dilla
@memeworksanimations2689
@memeworksanimations2689 2 года назад
I was so happy when you mentioned let’s ride because I love that song and q tip and j dilla
@not_emerald
@not_emerald 3 года назад
This is beautiful.
@Tomyren
@Tomyren 3 года назад
Incredible video
@squonck
@squonck Год назад
Wow, just found you and your channel is everything I want to be lol. Jokes aside really great stuff, loved the vid!!!!!! Your other stuff looks right up my alley, can't believe you don't have more attention by now
@tristanpaxton51
@tristanpaxton51 2 года назад
Great video!! I can't believe I'm lucky enough to find you when you're only 1k subs. It's gonna be 1M before you know it! I love the cross genre, harmonic analysis vibe. Keep it up! Thank you
@ColtraneTaylor
@ColtraneTaylor 2 года назад
Hello, white hipster.
@marlomorgan2187
@marlomorgan2187 3 года назад
Great video!
@pau9553
@pau9553 3 года назад
I don't know why you don't have millions of views
@rainbowbloom575
@rainbowbloom575 3 года назад
Yes !! I knew my time sounded like giant steps but I wasnt sure. Nice video !!
@blyg9992
@blyg9992 Год назад
I literally got into the habit of humming a modified version of the giant steps melody over the chorus section of my time
@milkwater1204
@milkwater1204 2 года назад
Such very very novel examples here, I love it
@Therkanova
@Therkanova 3 года назад
very nice! you deserve much more views imho
@vinyabhuvan5639
@vinyabhuvan5639 4 года назад
wow this is probably the most enlightening video i have ever watched. how utterly cerebral!
@EthanDyTioco
@EthanDyTioco 6 месяцев назад
_why have i only come across this now?_ better nate than lever. thanks for making music theory accessible!
@guitar9310
@guitar9310 9 месяцев назад
Dope vid!!!
@dliessmgg
@dliessmgg 3 года назад
Got this as a random youtube recommendation. Me likey.
@openexitTV
@openexitTV 3 года назад
was that a friggin upbeat cover of sorrow & sadness at the end, I need it so badly lmao
@cindylatin4723
@cindylatin4723 4 года назад
Awesome!
@stapler942
@stapler942 2 года назад
Coltrane changes is a speedrun of a 3-tonic system ☺️
@darthaderbo
@darthaderbo 3 года назад
Game changing:)
@sethleejazz
@sethleejazz 3 года назад
0:12 de lick
@eelamite
@eelamite 2 года назад
subbed! 1.8k? underrated for sure.
@raymondraymondchen
@raymondraymondchen 11 месяцев назад
great vid
@AsrielKujo
@AsrielKujo Год назад
i actually did a full ravel section into giant steps on my channel, and it works so well!
@jossua7524
@jossua7524 3 года назад
Waw that's great !
@june_birnie
@june_birnie 3 года назад
Hey this rules thanks for making it!
@WollSockenTraeger
@WollSockenTraeger 3 года назад
thanks!
@dudeman5303
@dudeman5303 3 года назад
God Q tip is so damn great.
@papanimes
@papanimes 8 месяцев назад
Of course my favourite moment drom Ondine is a Coltrane Matrix! i never noticed because i am so used to it being major
@leonardohernangarciafuenza9214
@leonardohernangarciafuenza9214 2 года назад
Great video! And for extra exemples maybe "Canned Heat" from Jamiroquai?
@ALF8892
@ALF8892 Год назад
Ravel is such a genius, mere mortals like us will never understand what he was about.
@victormontielpiano
@victormontielpiano Год назад
That Ravel fragment is by the way so freaking hard to play haha
@tsvtsvtsv
@tsvtsvtsv 3 месяца назад
aw i love bo en
@RaptorT1V
@RaptorT1V 10 месяцев назад
I have never yet encountered such a harmonic system in music. Maybe I just haven't noticed it, but.... it's freacking genius: a system consisting of 3 TONICs that are symmetrically arranged relative to each other in a circle of fifths! That is, roughly speaking, we are dealing with an augmented triad (if these tonics are put together in a triad, just to remember). And, to everyone's surprise, this video did not do without the genius Ravel, who invented all this a long time ago)))
@omnitone
@omnitone 3 года назад
i knew that knights of cydonia had cool key changes but i didn't know it was like this :0
@speedyperalta2833
@speedyperalta2833 4 года назад
Nice
@LucasBere
@LucasBere 4 года назад
nice
@thenewninja4726
@thenewninja4726 3 года назад
havent watched yet but i am subbing
@thenewninja4726
@thenewninja4726 3 года назад
finished the video, still subbed, and there is a q tip song on my playlist now
@chantolove
@chantolove Год назад
MY TIME HAS THE FUCKING COLTRANE CHANGES?!
@kaiserkueche
@kaiserkueche Год назад
There is also "Giant steps to the castle" from Shreck is Love, that has a Coltrane change, as the title with "giant steps" indicates it
@CadenceHira
@CadenceHira Год назад
actually fire lmao
@99temporal
@99temporal 2 года назад
That sad Naruto song in samba version at the end was awesome
@Senchi3
@Senchi3 3 года назад
fuck yeah bo en!!!!!!!!!!!
@EllieMcEla
@EllieMcEla 7 месяцев назад
Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush also has elements og coltrane changes!
@Rukkisman
@Rukkisman 2 года назад
3:39 found the lick
@user-lr3ze2bu2g
@user-lr3ze2bu2g 2 года назад
nice
@ColtraneTaylor
@ColtraneTaylor 2 года назад
I need to make changes.
@Likes_Trains
@Likes_Trains Год назад
omori jumpscare
@ezequielgerstelbodoha9492
@ezequielgerstelbodoha9492 7 месяцев назад
This was fantastic. I just found it a little bit confusing each time a flat dominant resolves to a sharp chord, specially when it's not needed, but I guess it's just some transcriber mistake
@JohnPaulBuce
@JohnPaulBuce 3 года назад
sure
@dChocoa
@dChocoa 4 года назад
gud sheet
@MikeChimeri
@MikeChimeri Год назад
On Rhodes, "Knights of Cydonia" sounds like a Vince Guaraldi cue for a Peanuts TV special.
@CadenceHira
@CadenceHira Год назад
lol
@rondorondo557
@rondorondo557 3 года назад
What is Coltrane Changes if not Axis System persevering?
@ineedselfcntrl
@ineedselfcntrl 3 года назад
Great analysis, but I really have to know where that intro song is from?
@CadenceHira
@CadenceHira 3 года назад
I wrote it specifically for the video lol
@catsinwonderland7473
@catsinwonderland7473 2 месяца назад
I'm new to this music theory stuff (like very new, I can only tell you what flats and sharps are, or guitar anatomy) but can someone explain why Coltrane changes sound so goddamn nice
@mymo_in_Bb
@mymo_in_Bb 6 месяцев назад
Omori 💔
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 2 года назад
🌾😀🌱💙
@zachavecunh
@zachavecunh 3 года назад
J'avais pas compris Gaspard de la nuit...
@Tabu11211
@Tabu11211 2 года назад
Lmao you already had ravel in the video xD my bad
@liborsima3429
@liborsima3429 2 года назад
Richard Strauss "Der Rosenkavalier", Walzerfolge 1, from bar 194 (especially from bar 211) ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-nolsSHvB8k0.html (from 6'09'' & 6'37'')
@kotekrogalik
@kotekrogalik 5 месяцев назад
Swag
@elementallobsterx
@elementallobsterx 9 месяцев назад
Bo En flat out copied giant steps down to the last chord in My Time...
@catsinwonderland7473
@catsinwonderland7473 2 месяца назад
He took Giant Steps and turned it into a Kawaii Future Bass song about insomnia. I love him for that. Recycling music and creatively turning it into something else new is always going to be worth it, in my opinion.
@frug4681
@frug4681 Месяц назад
“copied” is a bit of a stretch but yea i see where ur coming from
@elementallobsterx
@elementallobsterx Месяц назад
@@frug4681 same chords bro, not the rest of the song.
@frug4681
@frug4681 Месяц назад
@@elementallobsterx bro it’s not the exact same chords in the order, he definitely took inspiration from it because he studied it since primary school but ur acting like he just put the full song as the main motif of the album
@elementallobsterx
@elementallobsterx Месяц назад
@@frug4681 who said album? The best part of the song is a complete relative cycle of GS.
@sandalero
@sandalero Год назад
ravel same key (!)
@YusufRoshd
@YusufRoshd 4 года назад
yeet
@tabor503
@tabor503 4 месяца назад
why do the Japanese play piano like that and why is it so good.
@ANDRES696995
@ANDRES696995 4 года назад
You Voice cadence?
@jiyujizai
@jiyujizai 2 года назад
💚🌾🙄🌱
@funnymusicanman
@funnymusicanman Год назад
Will be friends?😀
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