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Columbus was Portuguese! 

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Everything we know about the man named Columbus flies in the face of historical and contemporary documents. Join us as we take a look at what we can all examine and the pretty clear conclusions that the facts illustrate.
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@visionarymediainstitute
@visionarymediainstitute 2 месяца назад
This is absolutely fascinating to me and I'm so glad that the RU-vid gods put your video on my feed! I now live in Porto, Portugal (from the USA originally) and Iberian peninsula history is deeply important to me. Thanks for the inspiration!
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 3 месяца назад
Muito obrigado minha senhora . Em 2019 , o Prof. Manuel da Silva Rosa , após 30 anos de investigação demonstrou que Colombo era um espião português instalado na corte dos reis católicos . Esta epopeia fantástica foi pensada e organizada pelo "Génio" do rei português ... D, João II. O Prof. Manuel Rosa recebeu vários prémios , entre eles : Boston Globe Art Merit Award (1976) ; o Lockheed Martin Lightning Award ( 2002) ; o Special Recognition Award , etc .
@silveriorebelo2920
@silveriorebelo2920 3 месяца назад
this lady goes in the right direction, but has very imprecise knowledge of Colon's personal history
@Vgon-o8g
@Vgon-o8g 3 месяца назад
Salvador Goncalves Zarco nascido em CUBA-Portugal 🇵🇹👍🏽
@Manuel1974PT
@Manuel1974PT 3 месяца назад
Essa é a verdade .
@Manuel1974PT
@Manuel1974PT 3 месяца назад
Colombo nao é importantante . Nao lhe devemos nada . Nao nos trouxe nada que nao soubessemos .
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
@Manuel-wo1zl Atân nã devemos??? Ė por o homen ser alentejanoo???
@Manuel1974PT
@Manuel1974PT 2 месяца назад
@@lxportugal9343 😄
@abidosabidos1
@abidosabidos1 2 месяца назад
Salvador Fernandes (Ferens) Zarco
@slbees1345
@slbees1345 2 месяца назад
If May add some info to your podcast, #1) Columbus has letters, notes written in Portuguese, Spanish (half Portuguese), Latin and Greek. There is nothing written in Italian #2) he didn’t just marry a Portuguese woman, but the daughter of the very famous explorer of the Madeira Islands #3) after “discovering” the new world he sailed straight to Portugal and remained in Portugal for many days before heading to Spain after briefing the Portuguese King
@brunotorres7332
@brunotorres7332 2 месяца назад
I also believe he was Portuguese there are so many possible links to Portugal it all makes sense.
@sathi123
@sathi123 5 дней назад
Your clips are very interesting. thank you.💕
@pnvgordinho
@pnvgordinho 2 месяца назад
He was born in Cuba, not the one in America, the one in Portugal. He wasn't dumb, on the contrary, he learned with the best and is mission was to take away the attention of the kings of Castile from África. He knew that he wasn't going to reach India, when he left, he stopped in the Azores, which is Portugal and if he didn't had authorization from the Portuguese king, he would be killed. He gave the name Cuba, is birthplace to the biggest island he found and named with Portuguese names, more than 20 islands. Those names are villages around his native birthplace, Cuba. When he returned, he first went to talk to the Portuguese king and then he went to speak with the Castile kings who paid the voyages. He was a spy working for the Portuguese king and his name was Salvador Fernandes Zarco.
@teddydavis2339
@teddydavis2339 2 месяца назад
Thank you!
@teddydavis2339
@teddydavis2339 2 месяца назад
Wow! When I tell people this, they don't believe me.
@Leontemplar-yt6ff
@Leontemplar-yt6ff 2 месяца назад
This is what my independent research came to.
@minutemansam1214
@minutemansam1214 2 месяца назад
@@teddydavis2339 Well people who know better knows he was born in Genoa, which, sorry to say, is not in Portugal.
@HelderTorres-ee5sm
@HelderTorres-ee5sm 2 месяца назад
​@@minutemansam1214Was he?
@alexandredebrito7665
@alexandredebrito7665 Месяц назад
Columbus was not Portuguese but sail for the Portuguese King before sailing for Castilla
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
Colombo wrote castillian with some mistakes, using Portuguese words inside sentences. There is no record of a noble woman marring a non noble man in Portugal at that time.
@anthonyfrade5203
@anthonyfrade5203 2 месяца назад
The best evidence is spelling mistakes in handwritten documents. He wrote Castillian and he occasionally used the portugese words... second is he named Cuba, Cuba. A portugese town not a castillian place.
@minutemansam1214
@minutemansam1214 2 месяца назад
Except for the fact that he was born in Genoa to an Italian father named Domenico Colombo.
@HelderTorres-ee5sm
@HelderTorres-ee5sm 2 месяца назад
​@@minutemansam1214😂😂😂
@sjappiyah4071
@sjappiyah4071 14 дней назад
10:58 WOW ! That was tragically poetic
@antonio.dragomadeira5889
@antonio.dragomadeira5889 2 месяца назад
I am portuguese. I totaly agree that Cristovão Colombo was portuguese. Mi great grand- fader says that he was from a portuguese small village in Alentejo called Lugares Colombinos, witch is near Cuba a vilage about 60km northwest from Beja. I would ike to remeber everybody that, if a person learn portuguese and speak it from young, is relatively easy for him to learn and speake spanish later in his life. But the oposit is very dificult. I know same strangers anglo-saxonics ho came to live Portugal that they cant learn to speak portuguese, but they can learn and speake to made themselves understanding in spanish. And more,the most portuguese people understand and can speak a litle spanish. But the spanish people not born in portugal, dont understand portuguese language. So if Colombo write in portuguese, if in was not portuguese ad if is was born and raise in Gnenova he must be a genius. Sory mi english, i dont use to write it very often. God bless everyone
@noelfuentes9709
@noelfuentes9709 2 месяца назад
did this his was cristobal colon an born in barcelona spain
@MafaldaBotelho29
@MafaldaBotelho29 2 месяца назад
​@@noelfuentes9709Vá estudar, Espanha, como país, não existia nessa época.
@cristinadias5145
@cristinadias5145 2 месяца назад
Yes i know that along time im portuguese good bless you !!
@marianomendes8759
@marianomendes8759 3 месяца назад
There is more info to add... First: Que plebeu poderia ter casado com uma nobre de alta estirpe em portugal do seculo XV ? Que espanhol voltaria da primeira viagem e se dirigiria a portugal para se encontrar com o rei e com a rainha em ocasiões diferentes? E ainda entrar pelo rio Mira adentro para visitar um amigo em Odemira ? Na segunda viagem se nao estou enganado fez um desvio a costa de Marrocos para ajudar os portugueses que se encontravam cercados em Arzila, quem faria isto sem ser português e ainda por cima com barcos e meios que não lhe pertenciam ? O Papa refere-se a ele em duas ocasiões diferentes como Cristóvão, não cristobal nem cristoforo . Exitem ainda mais factos mas estes são os que me parecem mais interessantes.
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
Quando escreve espanhol... enfia palavras portuguesas no meio das frases
@pietjemol3420
@pietjemol3420 Месяц назад
The Cuba connection nailed it for me.
@HELIANEALVES-j5k
@HELIANEALVES-j5k 3 месяца назад
Nasceu em cuba!!!! Portugal
@Rotebuehl1
@Rotebuehl1 3 месяца назад
Conversa de chacha
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
@Rotebuehl1 Não é chachachá é em Cuba sim senhora. Portanto conversa de mambo
@antoniodefreitas2957
@antoniodefreitas2957 2 месяца назад
@@Rotebuehl1 There is a small town in the province of Alentejo named Cuba.
@cheryltanaka5885
@cheryltanaka5885 11 месяцев назад
Thought provoking, Elena! Gracias! ; )
@pxtokarev
@pxtokarev 3 месяца назад
Certainly Colon would have never been accepted in his first wife family had he not been of noble ancestry. Probably he was the son of the Duke of Beja and a jewish woman from Cuba, near Beja. Probably the Portuguese king's intention by sending him to Seville was to lure the Castillians to the west and keep them away from India. The knowledge the Portuguese had from the West had its origins in the Zheng He voyages, circa 1420, that a certain Venitian had brought to the Vatican where Infant Pedro, a brother of Henry, found it.
@luiskarantonis4531
@luiskarantonis4531 Месяц назад
Suggested that once in Genova,they almost beheaded me...
@alfastur6833
@alfastur6833 2 месяца назад
5:31 the Jews living in Spain at the time of expulsion didn't have a language of their own. They spoke the same fifteenth century Castillian as anyone else. After expulsion the Castillian language evolved in the people of Spain and the expelled Jews separately, the former becoming modern day Spanish, the latter becoming the Ladino that still keeps many grammatical and phonetic characteristics of the language of the fifteenth century.
@babavoss2699
@babavoss2699 9 месяцев назад
One of the best analyzes about Colon. Clever! Thanks. We must not forget Seville was full of Portuguese refugees. And it's also clear that Fernando and Isabelle knew exactly who Colon was. Unfortunately, an important character is never mentioned. SantAngel was insignificant compared to the extremely powerful and very rich Alvaro de Portugal. Alvaro de Portugal, the most important person in the entire kingdom after the Catholic kings, was the true supporter and protector of his countryman Colon. For me there is only one reason that Colon didn't reveal his origins. Not even to his sons. He didn't want to protect himself, not his faith, but something much, much more important. A legend. A myth. A saint. - His royal father: Henry the Navigator!
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
Henry saint ????
@patrickcanny2500
@patrickcanny2500 Месяц назад
This is one of the best documentaries I have seen😊, we live next to the museo Cristobal Colon in Calle Colon in Valladolid, Spain.
@ganotube
@ganotube 3 месяца назад
EVERYONE KNOWS BUT THEY DONT ADMIT
@Rotebuehl1
@Rotebuehl1 3 месяца назад
Who are "they"??? And who is "everyone"???
@mariaantoniaparadaguedes1586
@mariaantoniaparadaguedes1586 Месяц назад
​@@Rotebuehl1 Two suggestions: " Beyond Capricorn " by Peter Trickett. " Christopher Columbus was Portuguese! " by Manuel Luciano da Silva Please enjoy.
@vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105
@vieiradosreismariadelurdes9105 Месяц назад
​​@@mariaantoniaparadaguedes1586 Yes he was Portuguese. He was Born in Portugal in ALENTEJO CUBA PORTUGAL.And his real Name was not "Cristóvão Colombo" . He had a diferente Name.
@josealvesmerello
@josealvesmerello 2 месяца назад
At high school I easily always told Cristóvão Colombo was Portuguese but that there was this tripartite of Portugal Spain and Italy making the same claims. It’s like Saint Anthony or Santo António. He was born in Lisbon, went to Morocco and then to Italy where he professed his faith in Padua where he died and yet the Italians claim he was Italian from Padua.
@aalb1873
@aalb1873 Месяц назад
No its different: Italians knows St Antonio was Portuguese but they call him da Padova because he established his religious order in that city
@luisleote3917
@luisleote3917 3 месяца назад
Colombo, espião português do mais alto gabarito. Plano bem urdido…
@Cu_Chulainn_Setanta
@Cu_Chulainn_Setanta 3 месяца назад
Sim é verdade! " Há o tempo da coruja e há o tempo do falcão" Mas não se pode mudar a história oficial, porque se a mudámos as autoridades espanholas ia ficar melindradas. Tal como a a descoberta das americas. Para mim Colombo não descobrio a América, sim oficializou.
@adolfoformoso5445
@adolfoformoso5445 3 месяца назад
Columbo meaning "Dove" in English can be a "nickname", very normal among Portuguese culture special those was "new Cristian" (jewels convert), in XV Portugal had about 200 thousands jewels and 800 thousands total population, everything changed and many jewels left of Portugal with the Inquisitions and only in XIX Colombo become Italian. In the past, the jewels didn't had a Estate (Israel) to protect them, that why Colombo as Jews didn't told anything to his sons. Pedro Alvez Cabral discovered Brasil, today many documents show Cabral was "new Cristian" as Columbo. I lived in Genoa in 1988 for 3 months and my landlord Genovese doesn't believed Colombo was Genovese, first there is no prove he lived in Genova, the Columbus house em Genova are not genuine. Colombo surname are from North Lombardi and not from Liguria The unification of Italy sec XIX had a movement "Il Risorgimento" very nationalistic movement which took Colombo, Marcus Pollo and Santo Antonio as Italians, these 3 important persons are not Italian, but from Portugal - Columbo and Santo Antonio) and Marco Paulo from Croatia. Italy are a fantastic country but there is a mafia there, very good is falsification.
@minutemansam1214
@minutemansam1214 2 месяца назад
Nope, his father, Domenico Colombo, worked and lived in Genoa.
@ghostlightdc
@ghostlightdc Месяц назад
Nonsense. San Anthony was Portuguese, that is widely known and accepted. Marco Polo was a Venetian and Columbus was Genovese.
@aprilhowe8251
@aprilhowe8251 13 дней назад
Has the DNA results been released? I haven't been able to find the results if they have been released. Which I kind of feel like the results would have made headlines the world over by now. Thanks for the help and thank you for this incredible content! Keep it up! So fascinating!!
@OcctobersXO
@OcctobersXO Месяц назад
We in Portugal do not claim this guy y’all Americans can keep him
@alfastur6833
@alfastur6833 2 месяца назад
4:20 The edict of expulsion only concerned the Jews living in Spain. The Muslims were ultimately also expelled, but at a later date.
@John-qd5of
@John-qd5of 2 месяца назад
I have seen that beautiful carved monument in Lisbon.
@RIcklacantina
@RIcklacantina Месяц назад
He was also lost when he landed in what is now being called Hispagnola
@ewkeenan
@ewkeenan Месяц назад
Amazing explication, well done!
@hg3502
@hg3502 11 месяцев назад
Amazing!
@AnthonyDibiaseIdeas
@AnthonyDibiaseIdeas Месяц назад
Astonishing. Thank you.
@durandal1909
@durandal1909 Месяц назад
LOL! Why is Portuguese nationalists always fixated on Spain? We see Portugal as our dear brother, and Portugal in return has allied with our enemies regardless… No, Columbus was not Portuguese. Historians have e speculated with multiple hypotheses of whether Columbus was Genoese, or Portuguese or Galician. Truth is Columbus is well remembered for sailing across the Atlantic and claiming territories for the Crown of Spain.
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
He claimed territories to Spain because João 2 demand him to do it. The 60 years when we were "brothers" were worst then 10 Lisbon earthquakes. De Espanha nem bom vento nem bom casamento!
@DeNunya
@DeNunya Месяц назад
He would have called Cuba Little Genoa, he would have gone to Rome for finances, I'm sure he would have gotten finances from some Italian nobleman if he ever were Italian. Italy would have taken claim of some American lands as well. Put all that together and you can conclude he clearly wasn't Italian.
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
An Italian paisan comes and contact directly with João 2 and Isabela? What a nonsense. 😅
@DeNunya
@DeNunya 13 дней назад
@@Jorge-v5q8j yup.
@Leonard-td5rn
@Leonard-td5rn 2 месяца назад
Italians are Latin. In fact Lazio is part of Italy
@andywilliams2237
@andywilliams2237 Месяц назад
A good story, but way too much assumption, conjecture and inaccuracy here……. Looking at the past through the glasses of today, in terms of nationalities, language, religion, etc. Salazar’s Estado Novo was desperate to claim Columbus, or Cristóvão Colon, as being Portuguese as part of their nationalist schtick. They had over 50 years to do it….. but came up with nothing convincing, a lot of conjecture backed by nationalist zeal, but no real proof. (I have a house in Beja district and have been married to a Portuguese for 35 years). Many who were educated during the pre-1974 period are still desperate to prove the Portuguese connection….. You suggest that merchants were poor or ignorant, but they were businessmen who needed to be able to transport goods and converse with their customers. Do I need to mention Marco Polo? There is also John Cabot “of Bristol”, also a Genoese and a navigator and explorer. As a Genoese, Colon (not Colón, he was certainly not Spanish!) would have spoken a sub-dialect of Ligurian and certainly not “Italian”….. so it is natural he would learn to converse in other tongues. You say he wrote in Portuguese, “Spanish” and “Catalan” but actually, the surprise is that he did not write in Latin, as this was the language of the educated. “Spanish”, as a defined language, did not exist at the time, so it must be Castilian or Aragonese, or some form of lingua-franca used at the court of the Catholic monarchs (certainly not Ladino, which was created by expelled Iberian Jews) - and his “Spanish” is not good - using many Portuguese terms and phrases. Equally you claim he wrote in Mallorcan, describing that as “Catalan”, but both actually derive from Occitan, a language spoken right across the whole northern Mediterranean and heavily influenced by Ligurian….. so it’s actually a tick in the Genoa box as there’s nothing to suggest he lived in that part of Spain. The use of Hebrew is also not unlikely for a merchant, with close links to Jewish merchants and bankers - and the use in modern Spanish of ojalá (oxalá in Portuguese) proves how bits of “other” languages easily become adopted. You make great play of the expulsion of the Jews from the lands of the Catholic monarchs (NOT Iberia) in 1492, to support the theory that he might have been a “new Christian” (a converted Jew…. “converso” seems to be a Spanish term). But Jews actually crossed INTO Portugal in 1492, for safety - they were not persecuted there until much later (giving rise to the so-called “Spanish” inquisition). Columbus had not had a connection with Spain long before this expulsion anyway…. and actually it was closely tied up with the fall of Granada, the eventual reconquest of Moorish lands and a subsequent surge in Christian nationalism, rather than some undercurrent of antizonism. I think, overall, you make rather too much of possible Jewish connections - though it’s not impossible that he had Jewish blood, due to close connections with Jewish merchants and bankers - in Italy as much as Iberia. However, he married well…. unlikely for an ignorant merchant with Jewish roots…. but his wife, though born in Portuguese territory, was the daughter of the Governor of Porto Santo, whose own family originated in “Italy” and who had previously been a navigator. Oddly, Columbus was accepted into this gentleman’s family - but that might be easier if you are from “the old country”. There are many claims he “stole” his father-in-law’s charts…. and it is known that he had worked as a cartographer in Lisbon (another point you overlook)….. so this marriage seems to be key to his future discoveries. You also ignore the fact that his only reason for turning to the Catholic monarchs was because his proposals were rejected by the Portuguese king, and he went, cap in hand, to the rivals. Ferdinand and Isabela were the lucky inheritors of Portugal’s concentration on the eastward route to the far east (remember the Portuguese reached Japan by 1543!). His main connections with “Spain” only stem from that point…. up until then, he was certainly an adopted Portuguese….. but probably not born there. There is much, much more…. and it only proves the fluidity of the concepts of nationality, language, etc. As you have said, he did not even tell his sons much of his history….. so trying to establish it now is nigh on impossible.
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 Месяц назад
Colombus wrote in his diary "they will never find my origin" Obviously he was not the man he said he was. And you say it's very oddly is marriage?... that type of marriage simply didn't exist at the time. Salazar never wanted to prove anything with Colombus, the possibility of him being Portuguese was never thaught in school... and still isn't
@andywilliams2237
@andywilliams2237 Месяц назад
@@lxportugal9343 Unfortunately, you seem to know less about your country than I do....... I recall heated discussions (35 years ago) with my wife's brother, who INSISTED (without proof) that Columbus was Portuguese, because he had been taught as much. For context, he had been a conscript at Santarem on 25 Abril, so all his education was under the Estado Novo. I also had an interesting chat with a history teacher from Coimbra who had been take to Cuba in the Alentejo by the Juventud (fascist youth organization) to "see" where Columbus came from.... The Estado Novo thrived on looking back to the descobrimentos, that's why they constructed the monument in Belem - and proof that Columbus was Portuguese would have been the icing on the cake! Supposedly, Perestrelo was glad to see his daughter married off without a dowry as she was in her late 20's. Some people seem to claim her name was Moniz, but that was her mother's name. Perestrelo had been one of those who "discovered" Madeira, which is why he had the post as Governor of Porto Santo. As he was a trained cartographer, Columbus would have known the value of any maps that Perestrelo had.
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
Try to see him as a spy with all the narratives behind, a forged character that would tell you he might be genovese only to protect his king João 2 from the plot they were doing to Castilla.
@carlosteixeira6180
@carlosteixeira6180 Месяц назад
Columbus was Italian married to a Portuguese woman
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
If you say so 😂😂😂😂
@marianomendes8759
@marianomendes8759 7 дней назад
@@carlosteixeira6180 a portuguese noble woman, that is big diference even today ....
@angelopinto9414
@angelopinto9414 Месяц назад
Unfortunately we live in an era when historical revisionism is fashionable. Cristoforo Colombo was Genovese by birth. He sailed from a young age to many parts of the knows world and married a Portuguese woman at a relatively young age. Anything that speaks to the contrary is pure conjecture and innuendo. Basta!
@rucas5558
@rucas5558 19 часов назад
ah ah ah
@lawtonloraine4144
@lawtonloraine4144 26 дней назад
Please dnt be ridiculous he was born in Genova Italy. He sailed from Portugal
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 26 дней назад
Zarpo de Palos de Moguer, en España.
@stephenmoerlein8470
@stephenmoerlein8470 4 месяца назад
Fascinating history. Thanks for posting this content.
@taranvainas
@taranvainas Месяц назад
Anyone who wants to can prove that Columbus was Genoese. I bet you don't even know that Columbus has living descendants (Colón de Carvajal) here in Spain. Columbus proposed to the Portuguese crown to finance his expedition and had no success, so he went to the Spanish crown and got it.
@massimooddi4793
@massimooddi4793 27 дней назад
San Francesco era polacco. Il feroce Saladino era lituano. Charles Darwin era vietnamita.
@mc9477
@mc9477 Месяц назад
babavoss2699 Acho que tem razão, porque desde criança ouvi que Colombo tinha um segredo que nunca revelou. Por isso quando ele voltou da expedição custeada pelos reis católicos, ele veio a Portugal encontrar se com a Rainha D.Leonor que estava num palácio perto de Vila Franca de Xira. Naquele tempo não seria fácil encontrar se com a Rainha, se ele não fosse de ascendência nobre. Que pena para Espanhóis e Italianos!
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 Месяц назад
Nadie considera ab Colón portugués. Solo los acomplejados portugueses.
@M10-i6b
@M10-i6b 9 дней назад
Not True, he was not Portuguese, according to the Institute of new history in Barcelona, he was Catalan, as were also Cervantes, god, Einstein and Galileo Galilei.
@anaenunoteixeira4859
@anaenunoteixeira4859 Месяц назад
Is Portugues all islands was name from Portuguese locals like cuba..cuba is a town in alentejo and zarco aka colombo have a statue in is lical homme town cuba alentejo portugal.
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 Месяц назад
todas las islas ? española, fernandina, isabela, santo domingo, etc NINGUNA
@nomcognom2414
@nomcognom2414 2 месяца назад
The purported Italian origin of Columbus is pure nonsense which dates back to Mussolini's time and creative hypernationalism. Many more details point to Columbus being Catalan than Portuguese, starting with his surname and language. His writings were full of catalanisms, not portuguesisms. He wrote Catalan, not Spanish, as a native, and must have been one. I cannot say about Portuguese though I am fluent in all three languages, because I haven't read him in Portuguese, but there's a book published 10-15 years ago, from a US lady and academic, who did the linguistic research and established that Columbus mother tongue must have been Catalan. As for his surname, Columbus himself wrote that in Castile his surname had been filed, not cut or shortened, merely filed, implying Colom was changed to Colon. The reason is that Colom, a common Catalan surname equivalent to Italian Colombo, is mispronunced by Spanish speakers as Colon. Spanish does not have words ending in m. Colom did spend enough time in Portugal to learn Portuguese, which is less difficult for a Catalan speaker than a Spanish speaker. I am myself a native Catalan and Spanish speaker, and near-native Portuguese speaker. But had Colom been a Portuguese, how would you explain his native Catalan? We could add many other details that point to his having been a Catalan, whether from Barcelona or Majorca (both locations being part of Catalonia back then, in the Crown of Aragon). It is not just that the Crown of Aragon, through Lluís de Santàngel, paid for the expedition (contrary to the Castilian tale about queen Isabella's jewels). It is also that Colom wrote that king Ferdinand was his "natural lord", which unambiguously means that he was Ferdinand's subject. Therefore, he could only be a man born from subjects of the king, i.e. subjects stemming from any of the Crown's domains, i.e. in Aragon or Catalonia. But he wrote in Catalan, not Aragonese. And Aragon is landlocked while he was an outstanding sailor, a navigator. Plus, when he came back from his first voyage, the king waited for him in Sant Jeroni de la Murta, very close to Barcelona. Plus, in Barcelona, there was at the time a noble family where all names of Colom's known relatives names have a match. It was a very significant noble family, not wool traders. A family that sided against king Ferdinand's father during the Catalan civil war, which would explain why his identity was better kept under wraps for mutual convenience. The king must absolutely have known who he really was. PS: French Coulon seems to be a pretty obvious francization of Catalan Colom. French cognate for Catalan Colom and Italian Colombo (both masculine) is Colombe (feminine). Both Colombo and Colombe have similarly sounding letters O, while "Coulon" (like Coulomb, also French) has OU which is the same sound in French as first O in Colom in Catalan. Which suggests that in Colom's shipwreck survival, he was in fact captain "Coulon". "Coulon" is not French, like "Colon" isn't Spanish, and both are exactly the same in each language to Colom in Catalan: mere transliterations. An hypothetical Italian Colombo would never have had his surname mispronunced and miswritten in Spanish or Portuguese. As for an hypothetical Portuguese man, his surname wouldn't make sense. Portuguese cognate for the word is "pombo". The navigator's surname simply wasn't Portuguese. And by the way, main modern authors to support the Catalan origin of Colom, from the first a century ago, Ulloa (a Peruvian), to the latest, Estelle Irizarry and Charles Merrill, are not even Catalan.
@ruisantos4520
@ruisantos4520 3 месяца назад
So far I remember Columbus was genovese. He had a plan to find the way to India going west and presented to the, then, maritime empire, Portugal. Portugal refused and so, he went to the second, then, empire, Spain who accepted to finance his project. This is what I knew. You just put doubts in my knowledge :-). At same time why portuguese refused the Columbus offer ? We are talking around 1490. And Portugal at the time allready knew the existence of land in the west and that it was not the way to India ... Later the tordesilhas agreement was signed and Portugal insisted in the specific line (that included land - Brasil). Spain, at the time was still in the early stages of navigation.
@mjh5437
@mjh5437 Месяц назад
I guess Portugal should be the country given grief over "Slave Trade Reparations" instead of us now.
@noelfuentes9709
@noelfuentes9709 2 месяца назад
well heres one for you the flag that you sail with make you a zitzen of that country aLSO its been said that he was from barcelona an he did have family in italy but his correspondence with the queen an king were in spanish an catalan an its said the he wrote to his family in italy were in spanish an not italian something to ponder
@Timodj13
@Timodj13 Месяц назад
Can we not do a genetic test?
@GlennFossum
@GlennFossum Месяц назад
Columbus was Norwegian!
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 Месяц назад
ruso
@tosfaleinan8rwpino
@tosfaleinan8rwpino 2 месяца назад
Then , why he had a greek name and surname?
@anaenunoteixeira4859
@anaenunoteixeira4859 Месяц назад
The most stupid act in this quest is that italians promote a paint figure on italian colombo as a midle age man...but he lives in cuba alentejo, than madeira ..after spain....an then sails to new worls ...we dont factually is was never in italy ...as a adult man is impossible! Fake picture
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 Месяц назад
foto en el siglo XV ?
@fabiotabaton314
@fabiotabaton314 Месяц назад
Away and booil your heed!!!!!,😂😂😂😂
@DeNunya
@DeNunya Месяц назад
This is a problem that should have been fixed by not allowing other cultures to add their own interpretations of historical figures' last names. Colon should have stayed Colon or Colom in all the books. Not have some white historian butcher the name by calling it Columbus. When clearly in all the historical documents there was no Columbus or Columbo written anywhere.
@lorenzoarevalo2537
@lorenzoarevalo2537 Месяц назад
que dice ?
@DeNunya
@DeNunya Месяц назад
@@lorenzoarevalo2537 El problema fue la interpretacion del nombre de Colon. Cuando los historiadores ingleses anglifican todo, nombraron a Colon como Columbus, el nombre es mas digestible en ingles, y hasta suena latin. Cuando en ninguno de los documentos antiguos se menciona ese nombre.
@inigoacha1166
@inigoacha1166 29 дней назад
Portugues, por mis cojones catolicos. Anglo lover.
@ratwulfviereck7015
@ratwulfviereck7015 2 месяца назад
Moré RU-vid bullshit…
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 Месяц назад
A que é que se refere ??????... Você , pertence àquele grupo de milhões de brasileiros que precisam , UREGENTEMENTE , ler Muitos Quilómetros de livros . Mas, não livros do Tio Patinhas !!!... ENTENDE ???? .
@jaymesguy239
@jaymesguy239 Месяц назад
He was Genovese, actually. Take credit or blame for your own endeavors.
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
If you say so 😂😂😂😂
@Leonard-td5rn
@Leonard-td5rn 2 месяца назад
Columbus left Italy as a child He had lots of time to pick up other languages
@antonio.dragomadeira5889
@antonio.dragomadeira5889 2 месяца назад
Did you have solid academic proofs of you afirmation? If he left Italy as a child, in witch countri was Colombos raised? Were did he learn portuguese? Did you know that there are a book who claims that Colombo was a spie of the portuguese king D. João II in the spanish cort?
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 2 месяца назад
@@antonio.dragomadeira5889 Excelente resposta . Aliás , as afirmações do outro senhor, são reveladoras de alguém que é absolutamente IGNORANTE sobre estes factos importantes da nossa história . Só com este golpe de mestre , D. João II manteve o mundo e ,sobretudo, Castela longe do Brasil . Cumprimentos .
@MariaEduardaBaptista
@MariaEduardaBaptista Месяц назад
​​@@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 infelizmente longe vão os dias que tínhamos governadores brilhantes.
@JoaoMartins-nb4tv
@JoaoMartins-nb4tv Месяц назад
You must be italia is that correct! You don, t have to reply
@genzod7940
@genzod7940 Месяц назад
Columbus was black
@ghostlightdc
@ghostlightdc Месяц назад
Wrong. Columbus always defined himself as Genovese and he was referred to by others as Genovese. We can travel his family history extensively.
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
Really, where are those evidences? 😂😂😂😂
@ghostlightdc
@ghostlightdc 15 дней назад
@@Jorge-v5q8j How about Columbus' own words? In a 1498 deed of primogeniture, Columbus writes: Siendo yo nacido en Genova... de ella salí y en ella naci... - As I was born in Genoa... came from it and was born there...
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
@@ghostlightdc of course he would tell that, as he was a Portuguese spy working for João 2
@ghostlightdc
@ghostlightdc 15 дней назад
@@Jorge-v5q8j Sure, and was he doing that from the grassy knoll or from inside the pyramids with the Annunaki?
@Jorge-v5q8j
@Jorge-v5q8j 15 дней назад
@@ghostlightdc it depends of the mushrooms you eat. I'm writing in this space that I was born in neptune, it's writen, no argue. What a binary 😂🤣
@salvino6699
@salvino6699 Месяц назад
He was from Colombia
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 Месяц назад
QQQQUUUUUUUUUÊÊÊÊÊ !!!... Tanta estupidez e IGNORÂNCIA . Estimo as melhoras .
@ADobbin1
@ADobbin1 2 месяца назад
As I understood it he was italian, born in Genoa italy. He went to italian rulers and they weren't interested. He went to the portuguese crown and they weren't interested. Even the spanish king wasn't but his wife was and convinced him to fund Columbuses trip.
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896
@vitormanueldasilvamatos7896 Месяц назад
TANTA IGNORÂNCIA !!!!... Não um pouquinho de vergonha na cara ???...
@petert1692
@petert1692 2 месяца назад
If I was Portuguese, I’d be embarrassed to have anything to do with Columbus.
@jorgecoelho4051
@jorgecoelho4051 2 месяца назад
Nope, only cringe, for you...
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 Месяц назад
I would be more embarrassed for writing stuff like this
@petert1692
@petert1692 Месяц назад
@@lxportugal9343Explain?
@stopshell8154
@stopshell8154 2 месяца назад
Columbus came from Genova
@BernasLL
@BernasLL 11 месяцев назад
Not true. Not "Literati" enough on the topic, I'm afraid. And I'm portuguese. But, tbf, I wouldn't want such an illiterate hardcore pro-slavery / genocider with serious navigational impairment to be considered portuguese. No idea why some people celebrate such a stumbling monster, we had far better explorers and human beings in our ranks in his time.
@adolfoformoso5445
@adolfoformoso5445 3 месяца назад
Didn't was Columbus faults what happened in America, if didn't was him will be another in his place. Spain was more aggressive in that time and Columbus follow the Interest of Kings of Spain.
@lxportugal9343
@lxportugal9343 2 месяца назад
What??? No... who told you that ????
@leonardohenriques8243
@leonardohenriques8243 2 месяца назад
Vai mas é dormir…
@Alfablue227
@Alfablue227 2 месяца назад
Outro "iluminado"...a sério 😮
@BernasLL
@BernasLL 2 месяца назад
It's pretty amazing the amount of people that have a strong opinion on alt-history, but don't know basic historical facts. I've read a few of Columbus letters (calling for slavery of people just as he discovered them) and quite a few biographical pieces, which detail the difference between contemporary mediterranian sailing and more complex deep sea sailing, and how Columbus did not know how to navigate with precision in the deep sea as he hadn't experience as a deep sea captain (navigating mostly by compass, though admitedly, he and his officers were pretty good at it, and very lucky), dwarfed in knowledge by those such as Duarte Pacheco Pereira and other previous portuguese pioneers. As well as the blatantly wrong assumptions that lead to the failed calculus of the earth's circumference (which actually portuguese academics knew to relative precision). Also, yes, his governorship was very, very brutal, as previously mentioned supremacy views would make inevitable. Such violent management led to scandal leading to his removal. Dude also decided to go publically head-to-head with the spanish royals, on greed. Old age took him before he saw the consequences of that "genius" move. At least read the dude's wiki and peruse its sources. It really isn't that hard to not have an opinion, especially one that goes against academical consensus, before going into an issue with some depth. As to where he was born, there's no real debate in historical academia. There are far more solid facts than those depicted in this video that point us away from Portugal.
@shawnwoodford-bey4044
@shawnwoodford-bey4044 2 месяца назад
A Moor...
@shawnwoodford-bey4044
@shawnwoodford-bey4044 2 месяца назад
So, he was ,so called ' black '...
@useringeneral
@useringeneral 7 дней назад
???😂🤦
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