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Combining Harmonic and Melodic Minor Scales (Bach Chorale Music Analysis) - Inside the Mind of Bach 

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How do you know when to use the harmonic or the melodic minor scale? Let's take a look at how Bach combines them in one of his chorale harmonization. We examine the choice of harmony and modulation, the part writing, the use of accented and unaccented passing notes, plus other features of the Bach Chorale style. Useful for anyone wanting to improve their ability to write harmony, to analyse harmony, or to understand the detail of Bach’s style. Join us on this exciting journey to delve inside the mind of the great J.S.Bach.
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0:00 - Introduction to the chorale
0:51 - Key structure
3:01 - Playing the chorale
3:52 - A look at the first phrase
11:01 - Analysing the second phrase
14:00 - Conclusion
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@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 года назад
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@isaacshaw1596
@isaacshaw1596 2 года назад
Hi, could you do a video on how to use the parallel keys when writing?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Ok
@isaacshaw1596
@isaacshaw1596 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB Thank you!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@thekantor1964
@thekantor1964 2 года назад
Brilliant! Bach is the best! Thank God for Bach, and for your wonderful analysis.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@composerrogue9176
@composerrogue9176 2 года назад
Always love the Bach chorales. Minor modes have no dominant chord so the harmonic minor and melodic minor have the purpose of giving us a dominant V7 or vii7 chord. The dominant chord establishes the key and is essential for keeping the choir in the “corral”. 😄 Melodic minor is for choirs because it’s easier to sing. Thanks for the inspiration, love your videos, I have them going in the background of my shop.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@zerksari
@zerksari 2 года назад
Great stuff. Unknowingly, you are my best teacher right now. I do have a piano teacher, but this is next level and what I want to complement with.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@katiesethna
@katiesethna 2 года назад
Bach is the father of all the greats..
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Absolutely
@amandabouskill4982
@amandabouskill4982 2 года назад
Thank you very much! Bach is beautiful. Your analysis is put in a way that is easy to understand.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@gjtube37
@gjtube37 2 года назад
Great lesson! I love this series and love Bach!!! Thank you!!!
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@gjtube37
@gjtube37 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB I have already purchased a few of your excellent courses. The only thing that is tough is I am in America and so many naming conventions are different. such as note names and cadences. I wish that weren't the case but otherwise, the courses are excellent and you are an amazing teacher! Thank you so much!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Yes. Apologies for the terminology issues!
@rebanelson607
@rebanelson607 2 года назад
Such beautiful music. Thank you for explaining some of the genius behind it.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@gabrielfigueiredo4372
@gabrielfigueiredo4372 2 года назад
Brilliant as usual! Thank you for the good work, Gareth.
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@1NOnlyAdityaOfficial
@1NOnlyAdityaOfficial 2 года назад
Thanks A lot for Each video ... ❣️🙏💫🤗
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@sunfloweroh
@sunfloweroh 2 года назад
Great video. I enjoyed every video of yours and learned a lot from it. For this a BIG THANK YOU to you.
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@Nimatarsetar
@Nimatarsetar 2 года назад
Wonderful video. Always learn a lot from your videos. Thank you. 🙏
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
That’s most kind.
@nixonkutz3018
@nixonkutz3018 2 года назад
Thanks Gareth, another wonderful video. I am getting so much out of these - I didn't think my appreciation of Bach could ever grow, but it certainly has, watching this series.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
That’s great. Bach is a rich lifetime study.
@briansullivan3424
@briansullivan3424 2 года назад
Great video, as always. In particular, I like the explanations of when to use harmonic or melodic minor, and the difference is ascending and descending in those keys. Helps to make sense of when accidentals are part of the key and when to choose to use them, etc.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Glad it’s helpful
@ephjaymusic
@ephjaymusic 2 года назад
Brilliant stuff Gareth!
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@valeriewhiteside4890
@valeriewhiteside4890 2 года назад
Excellent as always ❤️🎹❤️ a welcome refresher for me 😊 love that you sang the notes too 😁😁 🎤 🎶 🎹
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Just for you!
@valeriewhiteside4890
@valeriewhiteside4890 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB 😁😁😁
@DrLogical987
@DrLogical987 2 года назад
as I'm doing your theory course, these are starting too make a lot more sense to me! I'll have to come back again when I'm deeper in the course!
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@martinsgarden1304
@martinsgarden1304 3 года назад
So good ... thank you so much :-)
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@MusicMattersGB 3 года назад
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@oldbird4601
@oldbird4601 2 года назад
You’re a legend 👍
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@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 10 месяцев назад
Merci
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@MusicMattersGB 10 месяцев назад
😀
@trevortrevor7759
@trevortrevor7759 3 месяца назад
This is s great video but for guitar players trying to learn this lesson between harmonic and melodic minor, you should make another video using tablature as well. I know how to transcribe the notes into tablature but for others who don't/can't, that would help because although piano and guitar kind of go hand in hand, not many guitar players (nowadays) can test sheet music
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 месяца назад
It’s a fair point. Certain other instrumentalists might also want adaptation to their particular situation.
@petertuffley7475
@petertuffley7475 2 года назад
I'm surprised you didn't point to Bach breaking the consecutives rule in the consecutive 5ths between bass and alto on the first beat of bar 3.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Bach sometimes does such things.
@MaggaraMarine
@MaggaraMarine 2 года назад
I guess in this case the effect of the parallel 5ths is softened, since the bass and alto move in contrary motion. It goes from 5th to 12th.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Indeed. Some theorists even deem contrary motion of this kind not to be consecutive. Others feel strongly that we should still regard the movement as consecutive. Contrary motion certainly makes it milder.
@jamesmonnery4420
@jamesmonnery4420 2 года назад
Great video! Would love to see a video on tritone substitution... thanks!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Have a look on our channel. There’s a video on that very subject - it’s either out or it’s coming soon!
@jamesmonnery4420
@jamesmonnery4420 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB brilliant... thanks
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@andrew_d.__
@andrew_d.__ Год назад
Hello Gareth, thank you for these awesome videos. I have a question for you. At the timestamp 5:20 you begin to talk about the E natural in the phrase that begins with the pickup notes to the first measure. It seems to me like you implied that the E natural comes from the F# melodic minor scale, but it was my understanding that the E natural would be derived from the natural F#m scale instead, since E is a whole step below F#m. It is also my understand that both F# melodic and harmonic minor scales would have a raised 7th, which would be E#. Is that just a small mistake that was made when recording the video, or am I misunderstanding how the scales can be used between ascending and descending? 🙂
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB Год назад
E natural appears as the 7th degree in the descending melodic minor scale of F# but in the melodic minor scale the ascending and descending can be reversed in a piece of music.
@TWHueyGuitar
@TWHueyGuitar 2 года назад
I'm not sure about the tempo of this piece. Seems like it wants to be slower so the chord qualities resonate an emotional impact.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Obviously this is a chord analysis. In performance one could choose the tempo that feels most appropriate.
@TWHueyGuitar
@TWHueyGuitar 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB I don't dispute the analysis. Just feel the play through at the end of the video needed to be a tad slower.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@christopherlord3441
@christopherlord3441 2 года назад
This is all very well but you have to remember that we were all under the spell of Glenn Gould and the idea that the modern piano plays Bach correctly. I'm sure you know that the study of historical tunings has made great advances and the 'well temper' was quite different from equal temperament: so that these melodies and harmonies would have sounded quite different too. I draw two conclusions. It is really just chance that Bach's style works so perfectly on equal temperament instruments, and that is the basis for his central position in our music. And secondly, maybe this explains the otherwise astonishing and inexplicable fact that Telemann was considered a far superior composer in Bach's lifetime. Telemann sounds monotonous and pedestrian to my ears: but maybe it is just because his harmonic style doesn't work on equal temperament instruments. Keep up the good work.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
The matter of temperament is well raised but it’s not the only issue by which we might evaluate Baroque music, technically or emotionally. Personally my background is far more influenced by organists than by Gould - organ design, pipe voicing, low wind pressures etc that enable a more authentic Baroque sound.
@christopherlord3441
@christopherlord3441 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB Yes there are pipe organs tuned to authentic tuning systems now. It's not just a question of timbre.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Absolutely
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 года назад
One confusing thing about the theory of harmonic minor is that in these chorales all 4 voices are melody.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
The four voices have both a melodic life and combine to create a harmonic life. That’s why we find a mixture of harmonic and melodic minor.
@dhhbtd
@dhhbtd 2 года назад
You have lost a lot of weight. Hope everything is well.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
I’m fine. It’s been intentional weight loss. Thanks for your concern.
@tintchetia5415
@tintchetia5415 2 года назад
Thank you for asking. I have been very concerned as well.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
It’s kind of you to be concerned.
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