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Fluid Basslines (Bach Chorale Music Analysis) - Inside the Mind of Bach 

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Join us as we examine the choice of harmony, chromatic chords, secondary dominants, borrowed chords. and modulation, the part writing, the use of inessential notes and suspensions, plus other features of the Bach Chorale style. Useful for anyone wanting to improve their ability to write harmony, to analyse harmony, or to understand the detail of Bach’s style. Join us on this exciting journey to delve inside the mind of the great J.S.Bach.
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0:00 - Introduction to fluid basslines
1:14 - Playing the chorale
1:49 - Key structure and modulations
2:59 - Harmonic analysis in regards to the bassline
20:51 - Conclusion
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@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@JackStevenson5045
@JackStevenson5045 Год назад
“Before we talk about it, let’s hear it.” BRAVO!!!!❤❤❤❤
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB Год назад
😀
@carlstenger5893
@carlstenger5893 2 года назад
Another brilliant video. I never encountered 9-6 suspensions when I took theory a hundred years ago. As for the lack of pivot chords....Bach strikes again. I could happily spend every evening analyzing Bach works. Thanks!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
It’s fabulous study. Always new insights to discover.
@jamesonh1
@jamesonh1 2 года назад
You are a terrific teacher Gareth, thank you so much for your videos!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@palad3030
@palad3030 2 года назад
Thank you Sr.! you can not imagine how helpful are your Videos for me. I've learned quite a lot from them!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@Nimatarsetar
@Nimatarsetar 2 года назад
Your teachings are absolutely amazing. I've learned a lot from them. Just wanted to say thank you!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@Trash-Beats
@Trash-Beats 2 года назад
Young Man U looking heathy everyday stay blessed thanks for everything
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@The_Invisible_Man
@The_Invisible_Man 2 года назад
Thank you so much for the Bach series
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
I’m glad you’re enjoying it.
@eriksatieofficiel
@eriksatieofficiel 2 года назад
Man if electric bass was invented during Bach's time, he would have rocked on stage.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Now there’s a thought!
@eydiguttason1961
@eydiguttason1961 2 года назад
Best tutorial I ever had meet your genious to tutorially
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@sathyngouane359
@sathyngouane359 3 месяца назад
One of the best channel for musicians ! Thanks a lot.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 месяца назад
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@JackStevenson5045
@JackStevenson5045 Год назад
Bach chorales is my favorite subject to teach. You did an excellent job as usual. Thanks.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB Год назад
That’s most kind
@crazy_doc2816
@crazy_doc2816 2 года назад
What you explain is the principle of Jazz bass lines. My „mantra“ : Bach was the first Jazz musician.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
I completely agree.
@bronktug2446
@bronktug2446 2 года назад
Beautiful, thank you!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
It’s wonderful music
@LesterBrunt
@LesterBrunt 2 года назад
Thanks for this video! I was pondering about this so good timing. I feel like I have mastered harmonic progressions pretty decently but it is all so slow. Now I am trying to figure out how to write good stuff that moves quickly. Those fluid running baslines of Bach are a great example of that. I find it hard to find balance and variation when there are so many notes in a measure. Composers like Bach can make all the notes sound functional, even within the fast fluid lines. I find it hard to write fast stuff that is not just mindlessly running up or down the scales or ruining the feeling of overarching harmonic progression
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
There’s so much to learn from Bach in this regard.
@thomasj2835
@thomasj2835 2 года назад
Wonderful lectures.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
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@deplinenoise
@deplinenoise 2 года назад
Beautiful music beautifully explained
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Most kind
@HishamKhalaf1
@HishamKhalaf1 2 года назад
Thank you so much for your brilliant exposure of the subject. I may say that Bach started in D minor and ended the first phrase by the dominant chord of D minor which is A Major and I may consider that is a modulation from D minor to A Major then immediately Bach moved to A minor in the 2nd phrase, which is not a modulation because both A Major & A minor have the same tonic note. So, I may consider he moved from D minor to A Major & finally to A minor.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
It’s certainly true to draw out the relationship between the A major and A minor chords but the music doesn’t actually modulate to A major.
@HishamKhalaf1
@HishamKhalaf1 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB That is true, just one chord does not modulation has occurred. Thank you so much for your explanation.
@randolphmitchell6851
@randolphmitchell6851 2 года назад
I really am enjoying this Inside the Mind of Bach series! One thing I notice as a singer and a bass is that the bass leap from A to C in the 2nd measure might be difficult to pull off when you've just finished an A major chord with an A to C# interval. If Bach had included a passing B for the basses, it might make it easier to find that C, and also add to the fluidity of the bass line. But I'm guessing he didn't want fluidity there at the end of his phrase!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Good observation. He often regroups between phrases.
@CalebePriester
@CalebePriester 2 года назад
I'm also enjoying.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Brilliant
@lawrencetaylor4101
@lawrencetaylor4101 9 месяцев назад
I found a Bach Chorale book with 389 chorales. Many times there are many more measures, and Gareth often takes the beginning 8 or 12 bars. I'm looking forward to using what I've learned here to go further.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 9 месяцев назад
Excellent
@stefanodigarbo4735
@stefanodigarbo4735 2 года назад
Hi Gareth, crystalline as usual. I guess we all agree JS Bach is the No. 1 reference point in chorale writing. Once you have completed the analysis of JSB's chorale opera omnia, what author should come next, in your opinion? Provided one still has life time to spend, of course 😃. Thanks, stay healthy and see you in your next video!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
A pleasure. Maybe Beethoven next.
@OfficialDanieleGottardo
@OfficialDanieleGottardo 2 года назад
Amazing lessons! Did you study the books of Ebenezer Prout? I find a lot of similarities in your teaching. His methods of tonal counterpoint are very clear!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Yes I’ve certainly studied Prout in the past. Solid stuff!
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 года назад
4:42 The simplicity of the step-wise bass adds a harmonic complexity that arpeggiation would not have. 6:12 I have also noticed that Bach is fond of using in these chorales an accented passing tone in the bass as a kind of anticipation of a chord tone on the next beat that is approached by a consonant 8th note in ascending step.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@markchapman6800
@markchapman6800 2 года назад
Speaking of being able to interpret parts of Bach's music in more than one way, the 7th of II in the penultimate bar is of course prepared and resolved in exactly the same way as the 9-8(/6) suspension in the first full bar.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
True
@patrickcunningham618
@patrickcunningham618 2 года назад
tyvm
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀Hope you’re well
@cliveaitkenhead
@cliveaitkenhead 3 месяца назад
Is there a suspension in the alto in the second phrase? That's another great video and the IMB series is so good - I have learned so much from it and will try the chorale writing course next. Thank you.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 месяца назад
That’s not a suspension in the alto. I’m assuming you’re looking at the A on the approach to the final cadence. The A belongs to the II7 chord so it’s a harmony note/ chord tone rather than a suspension.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 месяца назад
Enjoy the Chorale course.
@cliveaitkenhead
@cliveaitkenhead 3 месяца назад
Sorry Gareth, I meant to write in the second bar and not in the second phrase! Its the E prep, E sound and D res in the alto. I was just curious. Best Clive @@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 3 месяца назад
@cliveaitkenhead Yes. That’s definitely a suspension.
@bigpicturehero
@bigpicturehero 2 года назад
Thanks again! Idea for video: dissonance and beat. I'm doing counterpoint exercises now and I am shocked by how effective the formula "constance on the downbeat, dissonance on the upbeat" is. Is there more to this? Maybe you've already done this video.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
There is more to this in terms of accented and unaccented dissonance. Have a look at our Bach Chorale videos.
@CalebePriester
@CalebePriester 2 года назад
You can put dissonances on strong beats as well, however you must prepare it and then resolve it, for instance a simple suspension.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
That’s certainly true for suspensions. Additionally there are options like accented passing notes/ passing tones and appoggiaturas that don’t need preparing in the same way
@smkh2890
@smkh2890 2 года назад
Jack Bruce studied cello and he said Bach had the best bass lines!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Absolutely
@JoelLaviolette
@JoelLaviolette 2 года назад
Thank you! Regarding the lack of a pivot chord-I’m wondering if since it’s in Dm and that C note drops to the bass and descends if you could think of it being melodic minor there and so it would naturally have an Am chord already diatonic to Dm. So it’s like the pivot chord and the modulation point are the same thing?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
It’s certainly a way of seeing it
@lindacowles756
@lindacowles756 2 года назад
G'day, Mr. Greene! I have a question. When you say that Bach had to work with the chorale he was given, was it given with harmonies different from what he wrote or just a melody line with no harmonies at all?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Bach inherited the melodies with different harmony, which he didn’t care for!
@trevorfurness5695
@trevorfurness5695 2 года назад
Gareth, just a thought about the difference between viewing the three notes in the 3rd complete bar on the '+' of the 2nd beat. If one looks at these as constituting a chord change to a second inversion A minor chord, would this not give this part of the music a sense of harmonic accent? Is it not more accurate to view this as three separate melodic movements coinciding, creating a sense of release of stress, flowing directly into the more significant third beat? Could there be an element, in this case, of the difference between Modal and Diatonic ways of thinking? Once again, many thanks for the excellent job you do with sharing the treasures of music theory with the modern world.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Thanks for your kind words. This example is very typical of Bach in that you can either see this as a new independent chord or as the use of inessential notes in multiple parts. I prefer to see it as both. I don’t think it particularly injects harmonic accent because of its position between beats. It also acts as a kind of replacement passing 6/4, which Bach loves to embrace.
@trevorfurness5695
@trevorfurness5695 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB Thanks Gareth, I think I understand the concept of 'passing 6/4' a lot better than I did. I will look out for this in Bach's general style and technique to be found in other works.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@wandajames143
@wandajames143 2 года назад
What videos do you explain musical forms?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
This is a whole area on our list to cover.
@grahamfjlaws6108
@grahamfjlaws6108 2 года назад
On a sideways note : Did you ever produce a video on the Rule of the Octave ?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Not yet but it’s on the list
@MrFlae
@MrFlae 2 года назад
Greetings. Can anyone tell me why E min / F# Maj / C Maj / C7 / B Maj progression makes sense and it sounds very good? I'm a noob when it comes to music theory and I keep staring at the circle of fifths for answers but I can't make sense of it... I know my question is not related to this video but maybe someone can explain this to me. 🙂
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
The acid test is - does it sound good? That often depends on the context of style mood voice leading etc. Your progression is a little unorthodox but if it works go for it!
@CalebePriester
@CalebePriester 2 года назад
Interesting! The first two phrases are very strange. What was Bach feeling? He was using minor chords I guess, I paused the video to comment now, but I guess he was in minor, but at the first cadence he used a major chord?? Wow! It is strange. I guess I feel what he was trying to express, but I can't put it in words. I will continue to wtach the video.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Of course the Chorales are all settings of words so there’s often word painting going on in the music
@BaldPerspective
@BaldPerspective 2 года назад
Not to be a prude, but at 12:29 you put I to V when it's i to V; good analysis, great thumbnail, & beautiful playing, though!
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Thanks. In this example I’m using Basic Roman rather than Extended Roman labelling. In Basic Roman we put all the labels in upper case for simplicity.
@BaldPerspective
@BaldPerspective 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB I gotchya. I'm still used to my theory teacher doing everything except slapping our hands with a ruler over the slightest mistakes lol
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
@@BaldPerspective 😀
@jani9783
@jani9783 2 года назад
Love From Pakistan 🇵🇰
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
And to you
@elierouhana1181
@elierouhana1181 2 года назад
It is amazing how Bach music from 300 years ago sometimes sound like modern music isn't it?
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Absolutely
@iwright621
@iwright621 2 года назад
Modern music , never got modern after Bach & Beethoven . The music world is possibly still catching up .
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 2 года назад
Nothing remarkable about it at all. Bach, among many others who are less known or forgotten, are the foundations of "modern music".
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@crapadopalese
@crapadopalese 2 года назад
I am not sure why you say this is a wrong key signature. It's in Am. He's just noodling around the IV at the beginning.
@aelfrice
@aelfrice 2 года назад
Not being familiar with this chorale, I'd assume these two measures don't predict the larger tonal space of the whole chorale. His pointing it out was a corollary to the idea that key signatures may or may not be expected.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
The Chorale is in D minor.
@hugoclarke3284
@hugoclarke3284 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB Do we say x is in the key of y because it starts in y, or because it is mostly in y? This chorale is technically about 50% Dmin and 50% Amin.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Label according to the key of the moment
@tunekeysus9427
@tunekeysus9427 2 года назад
Music Matters I´d like to know about the topic pitch class set
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Here is a decent explanation of the principle. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Set_theory_(music)
@tunekeysus9427
@tunekeysus9427 2 года назад
@@MusicMattersGB thank you
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
@@tunekeysus9427 😀
@rickypayne9192
@rickypayne9192 2 года назад
All I know from the music class I took 45 years ago is our teacher said before Bach thier was no bass line
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
There were bass lines before Bach for quite a long time.
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 года назад
You should have told them the key signature was dorian which is another form of minor.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@charlesallan6978
@charlesallan6978 2 года назад
If Bach were alive today , he would be the new second half of Steely Dan.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
There’s a thought
@desoconnor7445
@desoconnor7445 2 года назад
He looks like Hans Zimmer 😎
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
😀
@the_eternal_student
@the_eternal_student 2 года назад
I think what you are calling imperfect cadence is what we call half cadence.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
Indeed
@gauriblomeyer1835
@gauriblomeyer1835 2 года назад
Very interesting, the concept of the harmony rules is very impressive, but it does not touch the essence of music, the effect of various compositions to our inner being. There was a person, late Mr. August Everding who once remarked that Mozart had copied the music he wrote down, from heaven. So the question is: what is the origin of music and why has it become an indispensable part of our life. In India you get the answer: You in the west will never understand our concept and in case you know you will never accept it. From our understanding the world of music was created by our Mahashakti, in your terms the Mother of God. To a few of us she gives before the birth a key to this world and by the intuition these chosen personalities enter this world and what they hear there they copy and write it down using the rules of harmony with its exceptions.
@MusicMattersGB
@MusicMattersGB 2 года назад
That’s a fascinating perspective
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