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Come Hang with Malice #9: Mencius Moldbug 

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@thattimestampguy
@thattimestampguy 4 года назад
0:54 Moldbug, messy look 4:04 Question #1 7:00 Wndell Wilkie, One Worldism 10:55 Favorite Historical Period? 14:10 Sumptuary Laws 16:00 Chesterton's Fence 17:50 Raising A Child 19:10 Favorite Books? 20:44 Wars to Save Lives? 21:30 Preventing WWI Hypothetical? Look to Nicholas II 26:30 WWI Propoganda 27:47 Mencius the philosopher 28:45 Right-Leaning, means favoring Order over Chaos Democracy --> Informal Power Structures (Intrinsic Disorder) Armies, Academies, Companies --> Ordered As a Pyramid 32:07 How do you teach someone to think for themselves? 33:24 Let the child solve the problem (Most) Children are rebellious 37:57 Education Upbringing 39:02 Thoughts on writing 40:55 PBS!! ABC, NBC, CBS, and PBS 43:14 Culture shift 46:38 Climate Change 50:02 1890's-1970's (The Earth Is Colder Than It Should Be) "We're in the middle of an Ice Age in a warm period" 53:20 Nuclear Power? 54:26 Power 56:08 India-Pakistan 58:20 The Spartans 1:00:00 Henry Wallace and The Ruling Class Mindset 1:02:10 2020? The Power Generator System 1:04:18 Traditional American Dream, America is Vast with Culture Social Class affects Culture 1:07:50 Changes in Power precede Changes in Culture 1:08:45 Underappreciated Culture? - Egyptians? 1:10:10 Con Man Donald Trump 1:10:45 Neutral on China 1:15:45 The Law of Nations 1:17:19 Citizenship 1:19:25 Mars Colony? 1:20:15 Lady Gaga. Johnny Neuman 1:22:30 Being a Middle Aged person. 1:23:00 Germany? 1:25:40 US Stock Market, Crypto Currency? 1:27:00 Writers who know Curtis 1:29:30 The Distributist question 1:30:00 AI and Humans 1:31:20
@HarryPainter
@HarryPainter 4 года назад
Awesome thanks, any of it worth watching?
@skillzilla111
@skillzilla111 4 года назад
What we really need is a list of all the books he mentions.
@dpiddy022
@dpiddy022 4 года назад
thank you for your service
@jakeholland1825
@jakeholland1825 3 года назад
Thank you so much for this
@hueydao8637
@hueydao8637 3 года назад
Gang gang
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 4 года назад
Moldbug on climate change: From the perspective of someone studying it, if you say it's a problem, you are important, if you say it's not a problem you are not important and you become the enemy of all who say it's important. So in the marketplace of ideas, those on the side of "important" are going to win. So the fact that the people that worry about this have won all the battles in academia doesn't tell you anything. Genuine scientific inquiry would consider the benefits instead of solely the costs.
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 4 года назад
You just watched a Scott Adams video. I'm not saying there is no upside to climate change. Sure, some cold places will be warmer which makes them more comfortable for _some_ people. The downsides to climate change far outstrip the upsides, if any.
@furyofbongos
@furyofbongos 4 года назад
@@tolpacourt If you read my post, all I was doing was quoting Moldbug.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
Moldbug's got the sociology of science down. Of course, sometimes the sociology and the science point the same way.
@jcs27
@jcs27 3 года назад
Climate Change is not even real, and the proposed ideas for tackling it are essentially either useless (carbon tax) or destructive (spraying the upper layer with a shadowing layer to reduce the sun light) or hyper expensive. It's the green's idea of heaven on Earth, like the commies equality shit, its a perpetual motion machine, so generation after generation can poor in effort and resources so the masses can be docile. Just look at the data, look what Tony Heller has to say about it.
@Gigabomber
@Gigabomber 3 года назад
@@tolpacourt increased average crop yield in a world in which millions starve each year.
@gabrielsyme4180
@gabrielsyme4180 4 года назад
Guy who made millions in Silicon Valley can’t manage to get his hands on a decent mic and webcam.
@theguy9067
@theguy9067 4 года назад
He's just pretending not to care. Let him be :P
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 3 года назад
$100 microphone would make a world of difference
@andyc8215
@andyc8215 3 года назад
can never complain about that personally after watching so many sam hyde videos
@GourmetGarbage
@GourmetGarbage 3 года назад
Based
@bepatientIhaveautism
@bepatientIhaveautism 2 года назад
@@andyc8215 leave samantha alone
@Ubiquitousness
@Ubiquitousness 3 года назад
My daughter asked if these were the two guys that go back in time and start a band, and now I can’t unsee it.
@Sam-xg3mr
@Sam-xg3mr 3 года назад
Seriously underrated comment
@ChrisBakerauthor
@ChrisBakerauthor 3 года назад
It's Bill and Ted preparing for an excellent adventure.
@JM-co6rf
@JM-co6rf 3 года назад
holy shit
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 3 года назад
😂😂👍
@kyleburke6591
@kyleburke6591 3 года назад
L see l no
@clivemathieu9386
@clivemathieu9386 3 года назад
So this is the scary “far-right” person they speak of.... lol
@stevemcrichards8768
@stevemcrichards8768 3 года назад
He is very scary. You might find out what Progressivism actually is and really despise it for how it has undermined the USA for over 100 years.
@alexcipriani6003
@alexcipriani6003 3 года назад
yeah that’s what I thought is this the big scare? was expecting something something worst than Molyneux...with that said equally uninteresting. He doesn’t suck as much as Michael but still boring
@linkinlinkinlinkin654
@linkinlinkinlinkin654 3 года назад
@@alexcipriani6003 Ohhh mann your life must be sooo fun then. take my wife you reckless hero
@jiveturkey9993
@jiveturkey9993 3 года назад
@@linkinlinkinlinkin654 Alex Cipriani must have like a 400 IQ if malice and moldbug are mere boring provincial plebs.
@hectorg1752
@hectorg1752 3 года назад
This is the “dangerous” guy Eric Weinstein warned us about.
@intredastingvideos9365
@intredastingvideos9365 4 года назад
I can imagine the pain The Distributist is feeling after moldbug saying "i think i've heard that name somewhere". lol
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
I think he heard about the Distributist from Bogbeef on the Good Ol’ Boys podcast.
@M_reapr
@M_reapr 4 года назад
Haha distributist os modest enough
@mememagician97
@mememagician97 4 года назад
senpai didnt noticed
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
I wonder how Nick Land feels about Curtis not reading him lol
@ThePoliticrat
@ThePoliticrat 3 года назад
I might have Dave on my livestream
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 4 года назад
“All children are rebellious, at least if they’re any good.” There’s a picture book in there.
@esterhudson5104
@esterhudson5104 3 года назад
Especially if they are naughty little monkeys…C. George.
@dylanblack3279
@dylanblack3279 3 года назад
So let's hope that Gen Alpha becomes very right wing and rebels against their hypocritical post-liberal parents and other leaders in a couple decades.
@davidsopher6871
@davidsopher6871 4 года назад
Moldbug swigging congac straight from the bottle sums up everything
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 3 года назад
2020 was a long couple of years for me too
@9ramthebuffs9
@9ramthebuffs9 6 месяцев назад
his wife was dying of cancer
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 4 года назад
I like Moldbug on other podcasts of course, but he's always the best when he's talking with Malice.
@bradders9743
@bradders9743 3 года назад
Hes a 100x better writer than a speaker. Read his books. His talks with Malice are alright. His public talks are terrible. His books and blogs are literary mana.
@sunset-inn
@sunset-inn 3 года назад
What's your profile picture from?
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 3 года назад
@@sunset-inn It's an album, World is Yours from the Mass of The Fermenting Dregs. It's a Japanese band.
@that1guy375
@that1guy375 3 года назад
@@bradders9743 You are 100% correct.
@gundabalf
@gundabalf 3 года назад
yeah he seems more relaxed
@eleganz
@eleganz 2 года назад
the way these two get along intellectually and comedically is actually pretty charming.
@KarenTookTheKids364
@KarenTookTheKids364 4 года назад
Molbug looks twenty years younger from the last time I saw him wtf
@demun6065
@demun6065 3 года назад
@bleh taart does he love as Fabio loves?
@rainerbogle1958
@rainerbogle1958 4 года назад
Unfortunately they skip over (get distracted) the question "Do you see a path to defeating the Silicon Valley Cartel?" at 0:31:00. Next time they should discuss this for sure.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
Considering the cartel's relations with Big Brother (the IC)...it may shapeshift into something less obviously monstrous, but its essence will persist.
@brendancoulter5761
@brendancoulter5761 3 года назад
I think the answer is they dont, other wise it would be a priority for discussion.
@Deshift00
@Deshift00 4 года назад
mo'bugs mo'problems
@pattyb6003
@pattyb6003 4 года назад
We used to look for understanding at the sacred place, Church. Now we look for sanctity at the knowledge place, University.
@micksburg
@micksburg 4 года назад
The atheistic church, a religion with no god
@troyfitch6440
@troyfitch6440 4 года назад
@@dtt3104 God loves the atheist just as much, he just doesn't hear his prayers until the hurricane 🤣
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
And just as the first game ended the Church, the second, if persisted in, will end the University.
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 3 года назад
I don't believe deliberately not speaking about politics at home leads children to question what is being taught at schools. My completely anecdotal experience monitoring families and their political/ethical/social discussions between generations, I have found next to nothing is discussed. Yet the beigists continue to be churned out at an indomitable rate. Isn't this a point Malice makes often, the right is to blame for allowing the complete takeover of academia and education by the left. Parents have outsourced the education and nurturing of their children, really delegated parenting entirely, to the state, public schools, and strangers. From what I can tell, it hasn't led to a generation of sagacious, independent thinkers at the fore of an intelligent revolution. Just more of the same trite and fallacious arguments/ideas from earlier centuries.
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 года назад
The left hasn’t taken over education lol
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 года назад
@Brandon May No they haven't. If they did, we'd have more powerful unions and universal healthcare.
@slambrew3849
@slambrew3849 3 года назад
@Brandon May You're too concerned with culture war nonsense. Class politics is king right now, get with it.
@gloriouscontent3538
@gloriouscontent3538 3 года назад
Lets go Brandon.
@lordabacu
@lordabacu 3 года назад
Can't second the Robert Lowell rec hard enough, especially his early work. "After The Surprising Conversions" is a personal favorite
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 года назад
@michaelmalice it would help those of us that listen without watching if you read the superchats that are being commented on.
@CloverPickingHarp
@CloverPickingHarp 4 года назад
AMEN
@PrincipledUncertainty
@PrincipledUncertainty 4 года назад
Moldbug was on point. The ums and ahs are gone.
@JeezVince
@JeezVince 4 года назад
almost gone, i still got triggered
@cobrastriesand7693
@cobrastriesand7693 4 года назад
I never minded them, but I think he’s been tucking them into his laughs.
@wetdroidedition2549
@wetdroidedition2549 4 года назад
Wine helps
@PrincipledUncertainty
@PrincipledUncertainty 4 года назад
@@JeezVince Yeah, gone was stretching it.
@akshaysubramaniam8963
@akshaysubramaniam8963 3 года назад
1.5x-1.75x gets rid of most of it. As in shortens them.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 3 года назад
My copy of _The Machiavellians_ is in the mail. Thanks, you two! Beats the hell out of graduate school.
@RiksFunStuff
@RiksFunStuff 4 года назад
Moldbug with long hair reminds me of Douglas Reynholm from the IT crowd.
@bobbyaxelrod5959
@bobbyaxelrod5959 3 года назад
That’s what I was trying to put together! He totally does. Thanks for that.
@hairytentacle3924
@hairytentacle3924 4 года назад
Regarding Climate change: what does Cathedral supposed to do, historically? It would trade Indulgence papers. Donations to far left NGOs and carbon offsets are typical Indulgence papers.
@stevem815
@stevem815 4 года назад
Wouldn't carbon offsets be the obvious analogy?
@hairytentacle3924
@hairytentacle3924 4 года назад
@@stevem815 I didn't know how to formulate it in English. Yeah, it's carbon offsets.
@miketrombly6652
@miketrombly6652 4 года назад
Here for the ‘umm umm umumumum’
@robartlum
@robartlum 3 года назад
It’s his calling card.
@Ubiquitousness
@Ubiquitousness 3 года назад
Better than the Zizek sniff.
@perrinlance3885
@perrinlance3885 4 года назад
Moldbug looks like Mr. C (Cooper's evil doppelganger) from Twin Peaks Season 3. Love it.
@CountArtha
@CountArtha 2 года назад
"Those who wish to command must first learn to obey" is from _The Art of War_ by Frederick the Great
@TheChuck181
@TheChuck181 2 года назад
As a new Dad that was a great answer and thanks to the donor for asking. That really makes a lot of sense and will stick with me as they get older.
@pn5721
@pn5721 4 года назад
1:27:23 Moldbug names a number of individuals he likes to learn from even though some of them don't like him - Scott Lachlan (can't find him Googling), Greg Cochrane, Steve Zeller (" raising boys the Zeller way"?)
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
correctly spelled: scott locklin at locklin on science, greg cochran at west hunter, steve sailer at unz.com
@sgeorge3167
@sgeorge3167 4 года назад
Eumeswil from Ernst Junger lays out his philosophy of the anarch not the anarchist. Something that Malice might want to explore...So many nuggets of wisdom in this book that apply to today....It's not too easy a read though. HIs book Storm of Steel is one of the best WW 1 books ever written...
@angrynotwhiteman
@angrynotwhiteman 3 года назад
Moldbug looks exactly the way every weird looking bald man pictures himself, if only he could have long hair.
@DrProgNerd
@DrProgNerd 3 года назад
As a weird bald man, I find the accuracy of that statement offensive.
@thebestboss4563
@thebestboss4563 3 года назад
MM, I❤U! I'm not a creeper, I swear. You hv opened my mind to so many diff ideas and people. That means the world to me. Thank you
@meowmeow_beans
@meowmeow_beans 4 года назад
Thank you!!.. malice and moldbug!
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 4 года назад
Amen to that!
@christhomasism
@christhomasism 4 года назад
The best duo
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign
@kurt.wilkinsongardendesign 4 года назад
Hilarious and informative👍
@intredastingvideos9365
@intredastingvideos9365 4 года назад
hell yeah. more moldbug.
@Vodka2389
@Vodka2389 4 года назад
Moldbug's pronunciation of Yeshiva is actually closer to the Hebrew pronunciation
@trestres875
@trestres875 4 года назад
18:00 ish - temperature might be a linear progression based on an algorithmic or exponential increase of Co2 but that isnt the only factor, and temperature itself isnt the endgame; a single digit temperatur increase itself has non-linear effects on climate - weather, glaciers/sea level etc. its complicated and what is negative in one area could be positive in another.. but you can't question that we ARE having an impact
@stevem815
@stevem815 4 года назад
The last sentence reads like a bit of a retreat to the motte.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
He skipped the problem of uncertainty and the Talebian fat tails it includes.
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 3 года назад
If it's truly uncontroversial science, co2 increases lead to increased temperatures, why were so many temperature records set in the 1910s, 1920s, and 1930s? At a time of less human carbon. Even with the "adjusted" data, the 1960s and 1970s were still cooler than those preceeding decades. How can this be possible with ever increasing amounts of co2 emissions?
@mac94312
@mac94312 3 года назад
and why has the warming stopped?
@ciceroaurelius3757
@ciceroaurelius3757 3 года назад
Don't ask questions fear and obey....SCIENCE VAULT!!
@swatisquantum
@swatisquantum 3 года назад
You don’t really know what’s going on. 1) plants need co2 2) climate is always changing. Nothing is fixed.
@shenlonggohan
@shenlonggohan 3 года назад
@@swatisquantum You don’t really know what’s going on. 1) humans need oxygen 2) the planet spins. It doesn't stop.
@oldbear6813
@oldbear6813 3 года назад
I waited all this time to watch this so that I could dedicate my complete attention... Not one minute in and I had to stop to check how much the hairstyles have changed in the past five months 😂😂😂😂
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
Moldbug is the Comic Book Guy of the dissident right.
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 года назад
>dissident Literally everyone hates this word
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
@@Alex-rr7qc but why?
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 года назад
@@easternwind4435 Curtis addressed that numerous times in his works
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
@@Alex-rr7qc really? I read his gentle introduction, can't think of such discussion. Is there a particular piece you remember?
@Alex-rr7qc
@Alex-rr7qc 4 года назад
@@easternwind4435 i think it was in "clear pill"
@zwatwashdc
@zwatwashdc 3 года назад
Too bad the audio quality sucks and goldbug is self sabotaging.
@jupyyy8815
@jupyyy8815 4 года назад
Really excited to hear what Moldbug has to say about everything right now.
@CloverPickingHarp
@CloverPickingHarp 4 года назад
This would be GREAT as a weekly hangout
@TheSLMTube
@TheSLMTube 4 года назад
The most frequent ads I've ever seen on a RU-vid video (why do they even make this setting possible? It's unbearable.) PLUS in video advertisements. NICE
@tteot1wph
@tteot1wph 4 года назад
I think it’s a new YT strategy to disincentivize views
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
why don't you guys use adblock ? There's even a mobile app called tubemate which is basically yt whithout adds...
@city_of_coompton6832
@city_of_coompton6832 4 года назад
use brave browser dumbass
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
@@ChideNorms I think they changed that recently
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 4 года назад
@@city_of_coompton6832 Yeah joke's on people not using Brave
@renaissancestatesman
@renaissancestatesman 3 года назад
After watching you talk to Lex about this guy. So coming to check it out.
@thealienauthor3437
@thealienauthor3437 4 года назад
Malice, please think about having Styxhexenhammer666 on one of your shows!
@thealienauthor3437
@thealienauthor3437 4 года назад
Please!!!
@OblateSpheroid
@OblateSpheroid 2 года назад
Thank you for your work.
@S41NT93
@S41NT93 4 года назад
This is easily the best Come Hang yet
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 года назад
Malice couldn't help his eye twitching when Moldbug said "Clear Pill"
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 года назад
I couldn't either BTW. The term is cringe
@AJ-HawksToxicFinger
@AJ-HawksToxicFinger 4 года назад
@eternal boundlessness I agree people already take enough pills as it is...
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 года назад
@Mikael Johnsen Most internet slang is cringe AF
@MrCarkyle
@MrCarkyle 4 года назад
@Mikael Johnsen I used the term specifically because he was actively work to hold back the muscles in his neck and face from cringing.
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
@Mikael Johnsen “low-brow” is an older alternative I guess
@matthewsnyder674
@matthewsnyder674 4 года назад
really wish this was a regular series like the your welcomes with very failed comedian dave smith
@goldfishy
@goldfishy 2 года назад
Agreed. I’d pay to listen to these two talk every week.
@ultraderek
@ultraderek 3 года назад
Yes! I’ve been wanting to automate folding clothes but that kind of automation won’t happen at least not while I’m alive.
@jonathanvian2607
@jonathanvian2607 4 года назад
"Curtis! Get it together"!😆😅🤣😂😏🦒☻
@nayaleezy
@nayaleezy 3 года назад
new fan, i ❤️ how downy the thumbnail is
@RandomUserName92840
@RandomUserName92840 4 года назад
Didnt even know these were a thing. Should add to the podcast feed
@Simon_Alexnder
@Simon_Alexnder 3 года назад
Never knew Kianu Reevs was so politically savvy...
@Varlwyll
@Varlwyll 4 года назад
How long does it take Moldbug to start talking about WW2?
@MoonshineNL
@MoonshineNL 4 года назад
Baboons with rocket launchers getting the Distributist talking with Yarvin.
@christophercotter166
@christophercotter166 2 года назад
Thanks Malice , I can't stop listening to Curtis and you ,and I am 5 degrees below the intelligence of both.ty
@dartharpy9404
@dartharpy9404 2 года назад
love you both
@MrHappy702
@MrHappy702 4 года назад
Where is index time stamp guy at? I'm use to having all the links lol
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
Time. Time is all he needs.
@m3rbs
@m3rbs 4 года назад
@@zerokev6691 it’s only a matter of, time
@jofohollywood
@jofohollywood 3 месяца назад
Everything is always 3 years ago
@tolpacourt
@tolpacourt 3 года назад
I hope next time Moldbug gets a proper microphone.
@m3rbs
@m3rbs 4 года назад
Do more grifting, Curtis.
@FarazJr
@FarazJr 4 года назад
Who is the writer Moldbug mentions at 1:27:48? I can’t figure out the last name
@bctoy2779
@bctoy2779 4 года назад
Steve Sailer
@Cocoa1million
@Cocoa1million 4 года назад
Moldbug Fridman when?
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
Fridman has to reach out to him and he thinks he's crazy, he talked with George Hotz about having him on.
@lancegrandis6230
@lancegrandis6230 4 года назад
Lex would just ask him whether love can "win" or something similar anyways...
@easternwind4435
@easternwind4435 4 года назад
@@lancegrandis6230 lex is an idealist but at least he asks more difficult questions than Dave Rubin
@clivemathieu9386
@clivemathieu9386 3 года назад
Lex isn’t ready
@itsv1p3r
@itsv1p3r 4 года назад
bro roasted the absolute shit out of sheath underwear wearers lmfao
@alisonbevege7171
@alisonbevege7171 2 года назад
Wow can’t believe Moldbug and Malice both know the John Christopher books!
@zachblackledge1800
@zachblackledge1800 2 года назад
He’s exactly right on the kids at school and politics situation.
@DaniloCarretta
@DaniloCarretta 3 года назад
Moldbug remind me Gaius Baltar (James Callis) from Battlestar Galactica
@Jivansings
@Jivansings 3 года назад
I was at the club that night and hung out with alig, but a guy named Andrew crispo picked me up and took me to a leather party in Chelsea. I was about to go home with him when the host pulled me aside and said “don’t do this, do you know who that Is ?! That guy murdered a German model / s/m gone wrong. Do not go home with him. I dodged many bullets In the NYC years
@doctorbritain9632
@doctorbritain9632 3 года назад
An American reading E Nesbit, Mr Malice never ceases to surprise me.
@libertinax
@libertinax 3 года назад
The Last Psychiatrist YES!
@Orville9999
@Orville9999 2 месяца назад
I am so butthurt he never came to substack. At least we got that book he was promising.
@strickdaddy3912
@strickdaddy3912 Год назад
"um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um um" - Curtis Yarvin, on climate change, 2020.
@jonaskoelker
@jonaskoelker 3 года назад
> Canadian Greg asks: which states moved to the right, economically and/or culturally, after switching from a non-democratic system to a democratic one (in either rhetoric or substance), over a few generations? > MM and MM: nope I don't know that we're "a few generations" in yet, but I my first suggestion would be to look at the fall of communism at the end of the cold war. I don't think one can deny that East Germany moved to the right, economically, throughout 1990. Cthulhu may have been swimming left, but only after a massive jerk to the right. Has it caught up with the status quo ante? Also, is this a proof, refutation or thesis-antithesis-synthesis-zigzag of Moldbug's point?
@michaelhunter1911
@michaelhunter1911 3 года назад
This guy is bright
@Joshua-gu5nj
@Joshua-gu5nj 4 года назад
New mic sounds great! Wahoo!
@mrenovatio3739
@mrenovatio3739 4 года назад
59:12 ... Every mere coincidence is now proof of a simulation... So the idea that we "live in simulation" has gone from an interesting lens on modernity, to a coping mechanism for those to afraid to reckon with reality, to just a word to replace "conindence"... Pretty interesting... giggles, covers mouth and says "Jinx"!
@nicholasfevelo3041
@nicholasfevelo3041 4 года назад
Did you ever read Jean Baudrillard? Simulations is a good short read.
@mrenovatio3739
@mrenovatio3739 4 года назад
@@nicholasfevelo3041 I haven't read his books, but I have read stuff that references it. I really ought to read it. Thanks
@nicholasfevelo3041
@nicholasfevelo3041 4 года назад
@@mrenovatio3739you are welcome. its not as dense as other Post-Modernists that intentionally troll their readers
@thegreathadoken6808
@thegreathadoken6808 2 года назад
"Michael and Mencius sittin' in a tree..."
@ClockwerkIndustries
@ClockwerkIndustries 4 года назад
New mic is 10000x better!
@nietzscheanmiddleman9832
@nietzscheanmiddleman9832 3 года назад
I hereby certify that I do not believe in or advocate the initiation of force as a means of achieving political or social goals BUT THEY STARTED IT .
@drewmc268
@drewmc268 4 года назад
whats the name of the first poet Mulbug mentioned at 39:20
@jdmustard2557
@jdmustard2557 4 года назад
Robert Lowell, WH Auden, Charles Bukowski
@drewmc268
@drewmc268 4 года назад
@@jdmustard2557 thanks
@samk6170
@samk6170 4 года назад
Thanks my dude. I was about to ask the same question.
@davejoe75
@davejoe75 4 года назад
Any help out here with understanding how "power precedes culture"? I've heard of culture dictating future political campaigns, but I don't think this guy is saying the same thing.
@withnail-and-i
@withnail-and-i 4 года назад
I mean chimps use power without having cultures, add a few million years of evolution to that primitive state and you get culture.
@lightdampsweetenough2065
@lightdampsweetenough2065 4 года назад
The question is wrong from the get go. Power has to swim in a culture and without a culture you are barely talking about humans. You can ofc butcher people but your power is predicated on there being someone alive to dominate. It's not true to say that politics is downstream from culture in a straight line either
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
An example would be the power of the Union determining the culture of the ex-Confederacy. This does beg the question of the source of the Union's culture and why that culture evolved over time without the intervention of military defeat. Some of that evolution is forced by developments in science (eg Darwin) and technology. But, those are subject to interpretation. The Cathedral plays interpreter, its interpretations following the preferences of those in power.
@mopedman1
@mopedman1 4 года назад
China couldn't dump its bonds because the US holds more Chinese debt than China does US debt. It's a common fallacy but the rest of this was great. Good talk.
@kreek22
@kreek22 4 года назад
Wrong. Can't dump b/c before they unloaded much the price of the bonds would crash.
@mopedman1
@mopedman1 3 года назад
@@kreek22 why? If threat of mutually assured destruction is there why would they do it? China's economy and society is far more fragile than the US. Explain yourself.
@andyc8215
@andyc8215 3 года назад
Theyre trying to figure out dress code laws of the Tudor's; i'm trying to figure out why Hasbro's clue is in your window
@hardyje1915
@hardyje1915 Год назад
It's unism yt channel, not unist 17:03
@ryanmason9824
@ryanmason9824 3 года назад
1:07:50 “Power precedes culture” does it? Aren’t there tons of examples throughout history of an idea being born on the fringes, making it mainstream, gathering momentum, and then becoming codified in law? Am I missing something here? Sounds like Moldbug & Thaddeus Russell need to sort this one out if they actually are saying opposite things
@zachariedube1796
@zachariedube1796 3 года назад
I think this makes sense if you see it has: it doesnt become culture until people with power embrace the said idea, if they dont, it will be forgotten
@swatisquantum
@swatisquantum 3 года назад
Need an example. Hard to tell without at least 3-5 examples.
@SageManeja
@SageManeja 2 года назад
On the topic of history, theres a libertarian expert on WW2 whose youtube name is TIK, I think he would make for an amazing podcast.
@joshwells4280
@joshwells4280 2 года назад
Has anyone ever noticed that Moldbug with a shaved head looks very similar to a young Klaus Schwab?
@viktorsebastien604
@viktorsebastien604 4 года назад
Audio better, michael!
@MissSunny1966
@MissSunny1966 4 года назад
Lol you look like Ted Cruz and Johnny Cash had a baby ☺
@ryanoreilly7015
@ryanoreilly7015 3 года назад
Anthony Kiedis and Keanu Reeves
@jimc.goodfellas
@jimc.goodfellas 4 года назад
Moldbug talking about Sheath underwear-
@BV-jq2vg
@BV-jq2vg 2 года назад
I’ve been saying since mask mandates started that they are the modern day sumptuary laws.
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 4 года назад
Yessssssss!
@Gunth0r
@Gunth0r 3 года назад
Michael Malice and Mencius Moldbug! MMMM!
@H0mertax
@H0mertax 4 года назад
Anyone find the "unist" channel in the comment at 17:00? I couldn't locate it in a search but it sounded good. From Malin Keisner
@jonfungg
@jonfungg 4 года назад
ru-vid.com
@H0mertax
@H0mertax 4 года назад
@@jonfungg much obliged!!
@zerokev6691
@zerokev6691 4 года назад
He’s a great guy
@labrynianrebel
@labrynianrebel 4 года назад
I like his weird visuals he gives audiobooks
@Btn1136
@Btn1136 4 года назад
It was the Windows ‘95 aesthetic that won me over.
@thegovernmentinthesunshine
@thegovernmentinthesunshine 4 года назад
Moldbug looking like David Longstreth from Dirty Projectors.
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 года назад
I'm dumb and bad at Google. They keep talking about Cathedral. What is that?
@mtsiggy
@mtsiggy 4 года назад
It’s Moldbug’s own coinage for the intelligentsia/ the commentariat. The narrative forming forces who determine the official story. Similar to Weinstein’s G.I.N. The elite political economic class that manufactures consent. I’m sure Curtis has lots of writing about it somewhere :)
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 года назад
OK that makes sense. Thank you.
@555Trout
@555Trout 4 года назад
I'd add to help you understand that the Cathedral consists of the media, "education", government bueacracy. And the Cathedral is actually where power lies. Not the government. And unfortunately it's a very uniform ideology. Conservative ideology really only offers a minor deterance and Yarven sees the Cathedral as unbeatable. The Cathedral is "progressive". Which has Christian dissident origins . Basically we live under a theocracy, where progressive ideology rules. The end game is collapse per Yarvin. And then hopefully a reset. "Democracy" is incompatible with liberty for a variety of unavoidable reasons. So Curtis sees "monarchy" , a special case of monarchy, as being able to give "ordered liberty", which is the only type of true liberty. So there is an illusion of governmental power, but in reality the Cathedral runs things . It's particularly vivid right now because Trump resists the Cathedral. And so you see the media blatantly biased and creating narrative. And certainly the "election" looks very suspicious . It's a compelling argument. A lot if it fits what we see. He's definitely worth reading . Imagine 50(states) different Monarchies with free travel between competing for citizens. Citizens as customers. Anyway, hope that helps
@kinvert
@kinvert 4 года назад
@@555Trout Is there a particular book of his that goes over this in detail? This concept certainly resonates with me. A lot of people can't seem to make sense of the world, because they don't look at the world through a lens that really aligns with what you just said. Though I feel sick, I knew the best shot at freedom in my lifetime is a Biden win based directly on mail in ballots which the right won't trust. Chaotic Neutral etc. The status quo won't let us be free. The status quo hated Trump but he couldn't or wouldn't beat them.
@555Trout
@555Trout 4 года назад
@@kinvert Here you go: www.unqualified-reservations.org/2008/04/open-letter-to-open-minded-progressives/ Seems Grey Mirror , Yarvin's new site is down for some reason, but: graymirror.substack.com/ Your intuitions indicate you'll find Yarvin fascinating. Cheers
@buzzcagney8957
@buzzcagney8957 3 года назад
Anyone suggest where I can read yarwins works or where should I start?
@williamsmithington3157
@williamsmithington3157 3 года назад
Unqualified reservations. The entire collection of blogs is easily found online.
@rodentproblem8723
@rodentproblem8723 3 года назад
Where can I get the audio books?
@jamessheffield4173
@jamessheffield4173 4 года назад
I love the Victorian Age.
@jofohollywood
@jofohollywood 3 месяца назад
Did Curtis literally just take a bracing swig of whiskey at the start??
4 года назад
His hedonic tone clearly increased throughout the conversation. I wonder - is there perhaps not just "one Moldbug" but really "many Moldbugs"? I don't mean that other people write his articles. Rather, he writes some while drunk. IF he instead tried weed I suspect he'd be far more paranoid and would feel the weight of judgements over him far more deeply. It'd be fascinating to do a "high Moldbug" interview - my money is that he'd become quiet and subdued, paranoid and quite contemplative. Who knows, maybe it can be arranged. Cheers!
@kaimacotta403
@kaimacotta403 4 года назад
"Please let Curtis Yarvin on Joe Rogan!"
@fukurouanzu1006
@fukurouanzu1006 4 года назад
Holy 18 ads
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