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thanks for watch, share the video if you liked.
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el puede ser muy dedicado en otros aspectos, solo me refiero al dibujo
In the part of togashi vs liefeld, i compared these artists like this because that is how they are considered in their areas, or what many think at least, and the objective was never to attack anyone, it was just FUN, I like the versus, and if I hadn't liked I wouldn't have made this video, think about it.
This is a drawing versus, not a story versus, Liefeld has a unique style that differs from the rest, it is unfortunate that when a superhero comic artist moves away from realism a bit to get more personality he is highly criticized. Many tell me that the proportions are bad, but in the Mangas I generally see super deformed art, ultra-thin bodies and eyes the size of a tennis ball, but they don't complain about that because it's completely accepted.
Togashi fanboys, stop with the victimization, I only analyze the content and the empirical information of the works.
Of course, I said, that he is not very dedicated and that he scribbles, that is nothing personal and is totally related to his drawings.
If they make so many excuses for empathy, This is a possible solution that I am providing:
1) If the author's decision is not to continue with the manga because he cannot continue it, then it is preferable to end it, either for his health or for the problem he has.
2) He can use a different artist, an example is the Dragon Ball Super Manga, you can have helpers if you want, practically does not want to continue drawing by pure personal decision.
The fanboys put excuse after excuse to justify the bad drawing due to a health problem, over think to justify any mistakes in the play rather than use judgment and reflect on the problems in the series or the mangaka
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@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
Yes, I reissue this comment for the criticisms and complaints. made these videos to better explain this topic Comics Artists vs Mangakas Explained ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7RQgtqlyYyA.html Comics Artists vs Mangakas - THE REVENGE ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7gEhtLTBYBo.html This video is meant to be entertaining, not to be taken seriously, and made for FUN. This is an art versus related only to drawing, many told me that I did not do justice to the work of many artists and there were other complaints about Togashi, I already explained everything in my video of comic artists vs mangakas explanation and comic artists vs mangakas revenge, if you do not want to see that or read the description of this video, then I will not write a wall of text, I have every right and my reasons to respond to the fanboys in my own video, do not tell me what I have to do on my own channel. Yes, Togashi has bad drawings, stop victimizing, I only mean the explicit content of the drawings, let's give the medal to the best runner to someone without legs, the intention and the merit are not related to the result, He can be very dedicated in other aspects, I ONLY MEAN THE DRAWING, he is a good writer but his drawings are full of inconsistencies, the fanboys only saw the anime and did not read the manga or analyze the drawings, do not give me the example of ONE who makes psychedelic art and izayama who was someone who was starting, Togashi has been in this business for dozens years old and liefeld, who is more criticized, draws better.
@youraverageguy4930
@youraverageguy4930 4 года назад
If you're gonna persist on being "empirical", then how about you start comparing fairly. You brought up how Rob Liefeld and Togashi are bad at anatomy when the first does it due to lack of experience while the latter does it due to stylization. Hell, if you wanna bring up his health problems, why don't you start using examples from when he's at his peak? Yu Yu Hakusho is one of his early works, and the character you showed wasn't even supposed to be anatomically correct or natural. Rob Liefeld's Captain America is supposed to be a fucking human, of course people are put off by it.
@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
@@youraverageguy4930 I did not say that togashi did anatomy badly, I put that he is considered one of the worst mangakas because of the doodles and his little dedication (as I said before, he can have a drawing assistant or finish the manga) If we are going to use that logic, then let's say that what Rob Liefeld does is also an artistic style, I can also play the same game. the manga generally does not have a realistic style, in this same video I put a drawing of the toguro team that does not have a mile of comparison with the quality of the liefeld designs. the comic has a standard and liefeld brings his own touch, in my opinion the idea of captain america of liefeld is that he does not look human, he is a super human after all. But of course we are all going to defend Togashi because we have no criteria.
@youraverageguy4930
@youraverageguy4930 4 года назад
@@NUEBOHEMIO Most of Togashi's character designs and overall style range from cartoonish to semi-realistic. His art during his peak is nowhere near "doodles", just take a look at his recent chapters and volume covers. Compare that to Rob Liefeld whose designs are extremely repetitive and aims towards realism. His inability to express form in his drawings clash horribly with his inkers and colourists. He aims for a realistic style yet he fails to apply one of the basic fundamentals of drawing. Also, Captain America is supposed to LOOK human. Your super human argument doesn't work because he's supposed to be a buff dude with super human strength, compared to a character that *literally* changes his physical appearance.
@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
@@youraverageguy4930 everyone will have their own way of seeing a character and their own version, nobody complains when Frank Miller makes a square batman. You do not have to defend the indefensible, Togashi put scribbles in the manga, just read the end of the chimera ant arc, on the other hand Rob Liefeld has very good drawings that I did not put in the video. Togashi's designs look better in anime, one example is Yu Yu Hakusho's anime, which improved on several of the manga's designs and the characters look more anatomically correct. I inform myself of the work of both, if you do not believe me, investigate rob liefeld's drawings to see that he has more details and does everything in a more dedicated way, I do not blame togashi, he is good at writing stories, but leaves much to be desired in the drawing.
@youraverageguy4930
@youraverageguy4930 4 года назад
@@NUEBOHEMIO No one complained about Frank Miller's Batman because it's an artistic choice. He was aiming for a semi-realistic art but he still knew how to apply basic fundamentals of drawing. His later works however, is another story. "I inform myself of the work of both"? "investigate Rob Liefeld's drawings to see that he has more details and does everything in a more dedicated way"? You are literally cherry-picking Togashi's works from the time when he was just starting out as a manga artist and the period when his health started to fuck him up while comparing them to Liefeld's works during his supposed prime. Have you seen Hunter x Hunter's re-released volumes of the Chimera Ant arc and the following arcs? have you seen his Volume covers?
@bruh......2005
@bruh......2005 4 года назад
Winner? Both Mangaka and Comic artists. They are equally amazing
@level9drow856
@level9drow856 3 года назад
And have heavily influenced each other as well. I would say they coevolved and you can see the influence they have on each other.
@TCMECH79
@TCMECH79 3 года назад
Finally someone who gets it
@jonnymario771
@jonnymario771 3 года назад
Not really, both can be amazing in their own way, but still totally different.
@VITOLLFOTOGRAFIA
@VITOLLFOTOGRAFIA 3 года назад
@@jonnymario771 that doesn't make any sense. There are as many styles as there are artists, there is no such thing as "manga" Style.
@dx5gaming715
@dx5gaming715 3 года назад
@@VITOLLFOTOGRAFIA yep
@nathanwilliam4780
@nathanwilliam4780 3 года назад
R.I.P to the greatest Kentaro Miura - your work will forever be a legacy of greatness in the whole world
@krossbyxv5931
@krossbyxv5931 3 года назад
Rip legend
@fenzuwenser6670
@fenzuwenser6670 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman meanwhile Manga is outselling Western comics in their hometurf 😂😂😂
@themanwhodidyourwife1255
@themanwhodidyourwife1255 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman whoa dude your kind of a piece of shit
@introspectivesense6485
@introspectivesense6485 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman man wtf you have problems, you are discussing in this comment thread for 3 months and now you are disrespecting one of the precursors of dark fantasy genre, if you dont like berserk then fine but you dont need to be an idiot, you fkin manchild.
@miguelangelquicenohincapie2768
@miguelangelquicenohincapie2768 3 года назад
@@introspectivesense6485 that's probably just an inmature kid without friends, don't pay atention to him
@discipleofthecapedbaldy962
@discipleofthecapedbaldy962 3 года назад
The choice of examples for Takehiko Inoue, Kentaro Miura, and Yusuke Murata nowhere near does their work justice.
@alejandrolizama9564
@alejandrolizama9564 3 года назад
Same with Kohei Horikoshi, not even a single panel showing his backgrounds.
@risn5478
@risn5478 3 года назад
That's what I think when I see Murata, not even the spaceship of Boros.
@knganarxhy
@knganarxhy 3 года назад
Same with togashi, there are shots in the yu yu hakusho manga that’s just breathtaking and it felt so disrespectful to show so little of his work
@YumiSax
@YumiSax 3 года назад
@Carlos Gabriel Amparo the best art of hirohiko araki is volumen covers jojolion
@blakechildress944
@blakechildress944 3 года назад
@Shaman X troll
@deadpoollove3905
@deadpoollove3905 3 года назад
I'm Japanese. I think manga considers movements to be most important, and comic considers paintings to be. So average comic picture looks less lively but more sophisticated as one artwork. Ofcourse there are many exceptions, but there's a certain tendency. I like both.
@phantasosxgames8488
@phantasosxgames8488 3 года назад
you pretty much nailed. Superheroes do not particularly have some array of named attacks , repeated over and over , showcasing every motion of it. Let's put "My Hero Academia" as an example , with Endervoir vs Human Torch: Endervoir have "Jetburn" , "Proeminence Burn" and that Fire Web attack and Fire Javelin...all of those are clear-cut attacks that you know what they do and their motion. Meanwhile , Human Torch just flies and makes fire blast , improvising on the spot , his only realy signature move is "Supernova" which is an AoE Explosion , which the closest motion to it would be "Proeminence Burn". But like you said , there are exceptions , there is not much naming and a lot of improvisation on the characters in how they fight , but Batman and Spider-Man puts movements in a more front seat , specially Spider-Man.
@TheHermesLP
@TheHermesLP 3 года назад
It's preatty visible on "Spider-Man by Bagley" vs "Spider-Man by Murata". Murata's Spider-Man looks like he could start moving at any second and his webs look like they are still mid-extending outside the screen, while Bagley's looks like a photo with perfect lightning and composition, Like Spider-Man posed mid action for the selfie. There are exceptions, of course, but in general comics and manga look like that.
@kjamaronica
@kjamaronica 3 года назад
Well, in a comic three people can work as a basimo inker and colorist in a manga they can work up to an entire studio in fact a manga by Kentaro Miura (Duranki) had help from a studio
@liyuu7033
@liyuu7033 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman whut? One page from Vagabond (you can pick any page) looks better than any American comic
@wanpro7328
@wanpro7328 3 года назад
@@liyuu7033 Just look at his channel he is completely troll
@lunasea8908
@lunasea8908 3 года назад
90s comic and manga artist are just insane
@y0n_8
@y0n_8 3 года назад
Yeah better than the typical anime art style that people in manga keep using.
@IAm-zo1bo
@IAm-zo1bo 3 года назад
@@y0n_8 you only saw the popular shonen mangas?
@imlenny9257
@imlenny9257 3 года назад
@@y0n_8 most romcom and isekai manga
@kaisarr7632
@kaisarr7632 3 года назад
90s is when creativity truly flourished after that it was all down hill
@dragonpulse9977
@dragonpulse9977 3 года назад
@@kaisarr7632 I beg to differ
@stoney9894
@stoney9894 3 года назад
R.I.P to the GOAT KENTARO MIURA
@georgejoestarii9469
@georgejoestarii9469 3 года назад
F. *I gave Guts and Casca my salute.*
@ramens
@ramens 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman your whole channel is just tragic. Every video is a miss 😪
@_b_e_a_n_s_
@_b_e_a_n_s_ 3 года назад
rip 😓
@freedom8163
@freedom8163 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman why did they take Kentaro and not you ? Such a cruel world smh.
@TapiocaMCZ
@TapiocaMCZ 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman another troll channel, how original! Talking trash about popular games? Daring today, aren't we?
@vandad13
@vandad13 3 года назад
This feels less like a versus and more like a “if you like this artist then check out this artist”
@pojfgdlkfgjgdlkfg6912
@pojfgdlkfgjgdlkfg6912 3 года назад
Same
@user-xh6ju3pg8c
@user-xh6ju3pg8c 3 года назад
Yes the way he showed similar artstyles
@britneymybeloved2979
@britneymybeloved2979 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman L
@antoniogrady5954
@antoniogrady5954 2 года назад
@Shin Shaman na
@reginaldforthright805
@reginaldforthright805 2 года назад
It’s stupid because the mangakas are all doing thousands of pages while the comic artists make about 200 and call it a career.
@skye387
@skye387 3 года назад
I like that the video shows the art that looks similar in style instead of some others where it'd be like cartoonish style vs realistic style.
@buddiosgaming8541
@buddiosgaming8541 3 года назад
Agreed
@rulerofroombas1443
@rulerofroombas1443 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman troll
@D_us_T
@D_us_T 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman bait
@MrGalRoz
@MrGalRoz 3 года назад
this video is proof that there is no shortage of drawing talent in america for comics, the thing that went wrong are the stories, while in Japan the creator have their own story the present it the publishers give it a chance and things go from there, in America there is a narative to push certain stories and agendas and ignore the ones that dont follow it. such a shame.
@qmulus_yt
@qmulus_yt 3 года назад
@@MrGalRoz the whole idea of certain publishers having their own universe is what kills the comic industry in the us, and that's why invincible is so highly appraised because it's its own thing
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947
@giulyanoviniciussanssilva2947 4 года назад
❌VS❌ COMPARISON✅
@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
??? i dont understand
@alesandranasywanawfa6388
@alesandranasywanawfa6388 4 года назад
@@NUEBOHEMIO basically what they're saying is that, it's better if you put in your wording as in Comparison and not vs
@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
@@alesandranasywanawfa6388 fun vs are fun
@theanimelibarian7881
@theanimelibarian7881 3 года назад
@@NUEBOHEMIO were in this trophy for participation era so everyone is so adverse to competition it’s sad
@blakechildress944
@blakechildress944 3 года назад
@@theanimelibarian7881 The video would be two hours long if he were to compare each artist in detail and give his reasoning for each choice. The video was simply intended to be an interesting face-off of artists for us to think about. So I don't know why you assume this guy is a softy who's "averse to comparison" or hurting anyone's feelings with his opinions.
@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250
@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250 4 года назад
The thing i like manga is that the characters are owned by their creators, all the mangakas presented here own and created their respective characters and their universes, meanwhile the american ones, they indeed draw well, but they didn't create the characters( in the majority of drawings i see) and these are owned by corporations, the only real creator was stan lee, who is resting in heaven.
@ariace6547
@ariace6547 3 года назад
Very true
@memecream752
@memecream752 3 года назад
Stan Lee is a irreplaceable legend
@upon1326
@upon1326 3 года назад
Thats not fair to say at all and that's rude to comic creator there many western comics where they create there own universe and characters your just talking about marvel and DC which is rude to western comic creators.
@upon1326
@upon1326 3 года назад
@@memecream752 sad to say stan lee was very original but also took alot of work from DC because he worked for dc
@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250
@freddyromariovasquezcairo2250 3 года назад
@@upon1326 but marvel and DC are the heart of Comics, they are the ones that sell the most, but I feel you, there are some good independent creators, and none of those are presented in this video.
@facuswag4247
@facuswag4247 4 года назад
I think, Hirohiko Araki style is epic
@MrZaku-rh4qt
@MrZaku-rh4qt 3 года назад
My only problem with his work is that some scenes are so confusing at times
@stay4rosty382
@stay4rosty382 3 года назад
They didnt even show his best work, part 7 and 8, here
@loneavenger7907
@loneavenger7907 3 года назад
@@stay4rosty382 part 7 and 8 are the best
@TheUltimaBoxer
@TheUltimaBoxer 3 года назад
Yare Yare Daze
@_kira_760
@_kira_760 3 года назад
Yes but i think inoue is the best
@SirDieALot666
@SirDieALot666 3 года назад
The winners are us, the fans for enjoying the best of this artist.
@reigenlucilfer6154
@reigenlucilfer6154 3 года назад
best answer
@bigdaddyb1837
@bigdaddyb1837 3 года назад
Manga better than marvel DC shit
@SirDieALot666
@SirDieALot666 3 года назад
@@bigdaddyb1837 Don't come with that BS of tjis is better than this. Slrry for you if you don't enjoy both of them. But don't say manga is better than comic or comics are betrer than manga. Both of then are amazing, with amazing art and storyline.
@SirDieALot666
@SirDieALot666 3 года назад
@tom gu that could be true, but that doesn't make comics worst than manga o better. As i see, with all this Disney taking Marvel, comics has rebirth in all the world. And there's a lot of real good comics from another editorial.
@parkeranimations3671
@parkeranimations3671 3 года назад
@tom gu you clearly have never read any comic books if you think they died out in the 90s.
@izrael820
@izrael820 3 года назад
I'd be interesting for mangakas to draw comic characters and comic artist draw anime characters
@allansmic4363
@allansmic4363 3 года назад
I would love to see that!!!
@fluiddityy7398
@fluiddityy7398 3 года назад
Horikoshi and Isayama have done so. Hajime Isayama I know specifically had a crossover with Marvel I believe
@thejonker6980
@thejonker6980 3 года назад
@@fluiddityy7398 Yes there's that Avenfers vs Titans crossover, I had a copy of it hehe
@juryn7297
@juryn7297 3 года назад
I think Yusuke Murata have drawn spiderman. I'm not so sure.
@thatonequietkidthatcarries5139
@thatonequietkidthatcarries5139 3 года назад
@@fluiddityy7398 wait what where can i see it??
@MrSoso1050
@MrSoso1050 3 года назад
DC and Marvel should start encourage Comic artist to create their own stories. with their original characters. Just like japan
@super88cloud
@super88cloud 3 года назад
Vertigo and wherever saga is published are creator owned
@BasedVidya
@BasedVidya 3 года назад
@@super88cloud And Saga, Scott Pilgrim, and The Walking Dead are the only western comics I've bothered reading in a decade.
@Elricsedric
@Elricsedric 3 года назад
They already do that alot do it's just doesn't get out there much plus everyone has there own storylines with the characters they use its still great
@samueljones3668
@samueljones3668 3 года назад
They do not sell and ended up wasted, Yes Vertigo, Image Etc broke this mold, but ironically they ended up being just like Marvel & DC with new created characters being sucked in to the Universe of each company. What the West needs is its own Shonen Jump as a way for aspiring artist to get recognition that way the mold of "insert comic house here" would be broken.
@swift_lordyt6865
@swift_lordyt6865 3 года назад
@@samueljones3668 Vertigo is DC tho. Some of their works are creator owned.
@Cavi587
@Cavi587 3 года назад
I'm not gonna lie, the matchups were crazy well chosen. Props for putting in extra effort to compare the artists as fairly as possible by choosing really fitting matchups.
@bait5257
@bait5257 3 года назад
Yes and Also props for not showing any of good panels from berserk at all
@Vasharan
@Vasharan 3 года назад
@@bait5257 Haha, I noticed that as well. Miura's early work was... rough (both in writing and art), but the later Berserk mangas are otherworldly (sometimes literally).
@Yikeo
@Yikeo 3 года назад
@@Vasharan Some of the best art I've seen
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@bait5257 they probably Show them at the most similar and not at their best for example closeups of part 7 and 8 would have painted Araki in an entirely different light.
@bait5257
@bait5257 3 года назад
@@lorddio2737 still that's not fair. Why don't compare a manga artist with same art rather then showing miura's early work
@lloydjobbings2676
@lloydjobbings2676 3 года назад
Honestly, there is no better or worse here, just different styles and preferences
@lomejor7855
@lomejor7855 3 года назад
Totally 100%
@emperorfaiz
@emperorfaiz 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman Nice bait
@rafaelrocha5626
@rafaelrocha5626 3 года назад
yes there is,manga is way better
@krunkle5136
@krunkle5136 3 года назад
Comics are stuck on superheroes and the joker too much.
@johnlawful2272
@johnlawful2272 3 года назад
@@krunkle5136 no it's not go look into the indies comics that's like saying video games are stuck on call of duty
@auliasa6602
@auliasa6602 3 года назад
C'mon can we just agree that both are great?
@SomeOne-bs1rd
@SomeOne-bs1rd 3 года назад
Agree uwu.
@XETSUKI
@XETSUKI 3 года назад
Yes and some kiddos or ( some of the fans ) just being cringe and kiddos to say comic this manga this lol . They didn't know some mangaka and comic artist loved each other art
@auliasa6602
@auliasa6602 3 года назад
@Shaman X being toxic online sure is veeerrryy cool right mate?
@Syma408
@Syma408 3 года назад
@Shaman X why?? Both have beautiful arts Edit: i am a brazilliam Sorry for my poor english
@auliasa6602
@auliasa6602 3 года назад
@Shaman X oh, self awareness!
@jacksonwireguy2188
@jacksonwireguy2188 3 года назад
At this point im just walking around in a art museum.
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
Especially true the moment you realize that Hirohiko Araki's artwork was displayed in the Louvre Museum.
@BerserkerGoji9973
@BerserkerGoji9973 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman Cope lol
@azammudin882
@azammudin882 3 года назад
@Dan Hernández he is kiddo.Ignore him no wonder currenct American comic fall down Like shit even trash generic isekai superior than this woke currenct American comic
@vin6665
@vin6665 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman if you don’t like it, then just respect it.
@jordannetwork9046
@jordannetwork9046 3 года назад
Definitely Alex Ross alone should be in the Smithsonian I wish they did have like a comic book / manga museum somewhere
@mikesaharat4356
@mikesaharat4356 4 года назад
something about Americana comics that doesn't look as expressive as manga. May be it looks too realistic and not and exaggerated in facials.
@abhimanyukanwal2955
@abhimanyukanwal2955 4 года назад
Maybe you haven't read enough American comics or maybe you've read the wrong ones
@mikesaharat4356
@mikesaharat4356 4 года назад
Both style are amazing, but still preferred manga expressions.
@Bestialce2007
@Bestialce2007 4 года назад
That could also be a plus, no?
@Shyntie
@Shyntie 4 года назад
They overly use square-shaped, cross-hatching as being using a rule as well. The smoth transition drawn in manga by a loose cross-hatching outlining sphere shapes makes it look more "alive", the gesture and action is pushed-up. Also dirtiness spots aren't drawn in comic, making a illustration as clean as they can. There's no uneveness as in manga- even smoke is clean making motioned action scenes feel a bit dimmed compared with manga. Ah, also the diference between black and white zones are sharply distincted, there's vaguely a intermediate zone between them. That narrows a little the expresiveness of some escenes.
@artbyatticus3001
@artbyatticus3001 4 года назад
@@Shyntie Great comparison
@denontown
@denontown 3 года назад
I love how back then comics were so menacing and cool, and we now fucking get “I’m not starfire” lmaooo
@всемпривет-и1щ
@всемпривет-и1щ 3 года назад
One thing I miss especially is the art style. Man wtf happened
@xenalien355
@xenalien355 3 года назад
Read some alien comics ;)
@bistromathcommander8950
@bistromathcommander8950 3 года назад
This is completely downplaying so many other comicbooks that are not for a certain demographic. This anti-sjw babble is useless.
@ButIamAStick
@ButIamAStick 3 года назад
@@всемпривет-и1щ Nothing happend, they chose that artstyle for a Oneshot comic targeted to teenagers that is not canon. Normal comics still have amazing artwork.
@chubz6211
@chubz6211 3 года назад
@Dr.Sir Bruce Armstrong Mother Fucker The Third I'd say the recent death metal comics from DC was pretty good for modern day comics
@fafiade
@fafiade 4 года назад
It almost feels like taboo if a comic artist doesn’t draw Batman or Superman. I always thought I was weird how DC and Marvel monopolize the comic industry in the west. And we have these new upcoming comic artist with unique styles that are kind of wasted on marvel and dc. And the concept of heroes and villains is too cut and dry to be relatable and kind of boring.
@JmizZl3
@JmizZl3 3 года назад
I mean... You are not wrong
@maxicam5980
@maxicam5980 3 года назад
It isn't just hero and villain, some comics are, but not all of them, is more complex than that, of course those conceps are there, but in what story arent? Almost every story has those conceps, and its fine, what matters is what the writter does with them
@cradodragmire1563
@cradodragmire1563 3 года назад
Spiderman and Daredevil are the only ones I could see people relate too. But unfortunately neither has gotten a really faithful movie adaptation.
@jmgonzales7701
@jmgonzales7701 3 года назад
@@cradodragmire1563 tbh i might have a unpopular opinion but i like superman the most because he is the OG he paved the way for most super heros in comics. But the reason i find him interesting is not because i could relate to him. But because he is inspiring. Everytime they make superman relatable he becomes more uninteresting example n52 they made his powers weaker and became more cool and it absolutely bombed...... the way to make superman is he has to be noble, a boy scout and inspire. Although i do want to see a Non american take on Marvel and DC. And im not talking about in terms of animation and drawings. Like litteral own take of it. Hopefully we do get an japanese take on DC and marvel or any other european take.
@93King
@93King 3 года назад
Why does everything have to be relatable?
@rami7333
@rami7333 4 года назад
6:14 god tier both guys.
@DanteAlighieri612
@DanteAlighieri612 3 года назад
Add alex ross to that
@mintyal1382
@mintyal1382 3 года назад
Jim Lee has a lot of respect for manga artist. He talked about it during a panel at fan expo.
@yakupylmaz5853
@yakupylmaz5853 3 года назад
which manga
@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist
@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist 3 года назад
god yes
@ocalvinista1646
@ocalvinista1646 3 года назад
Jim Lee was better in the 90s. His anatomy nowadays is somewhat weird. And manga was important for him.
@thenabj5905
@thenabj5905 4 года назад
Togashi doesnt have bad art, he just has bad schedules plus a lot of the art he redrew looked better than their original
@zacharypreval3186
@zacharypreval3186 4 года назад
Nah it's mostly heath problems that affect his art. When he's feeling better his art is amazing.
@memecream752
@memecream752 3 года назад
Damn he needs to retire then
@memecream752
@memecream752 3 года назад
@trihard ok?
@maz4425
@maz4425 3 года назад
@trihard what the fuck was the point of your comment?
@ext_sans8399
@ext_sans8399 3 года назад
@@memecream752 Apparently hes too prideful to hire someone to draw for him. People are saying that he should just let his wife do it (Sailor moon Author).
@ira-jay
@ira-jay 3 года назад
i like when people appreciate both for being what they are instead of directly comparing them, it's a nice breath of fresh air
@robinfranz17
@robinfranz17 3 года назад
RIP Kentarō, you may live forever in our Hearts
@mmlttv7256
@mmlttv7256 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman please have respect for the dead you may have not liked his work but respect him as a human being atleast okay
@pradeoo3918
@pradeoo3918 4 года назад
19:08 That's not Eiichiro Oda. Thats Eiji Aonuma . A video game designer from Nintendo
@NUEBOHEMIO
@NUEBOHEMIO 4 года назад
Thanks for say it.
@luissantiagomijareso.2450
@luissantiagomijareso.2450 3 года назад
Thank you so much for playing my game! 😜
@Dastardly_Duo
@Dastardly_Duo 3 года назад
18:34***
@Dastardly_Duo
@Dastardly_Duo 3 года назад
@Madu Abeykoon ??
@BIDEOSNOJAJA
@BIDEOSNOJAJA 3 года назад
@@luissantiagomijareso.2450 Cómo que tu juego bro?
@reiiz9942
@reiiz9942 3 года назад
The different is only one thing. Creativity and freedom. Tell me, when is the last time you see an original comic from western reach the same height with batman/superman? Close to none. Western talent are wasted imo. They have amazing talent but never utilize it. No original character and original story. All refresh same story but with a twist here and there and spin off.
@post-humangod2575
@post-humangod2575 3 года назад
Because they only care about what is popular and what will make their comic sell.
@centuryfiles9558
@centuryfiles9558 3 года назад
This is what I wish changed about the western comic industry
@joshgroban5291
@joshgroban5291 3 года назад
The only comics are old ones, when the industry was just born. There are barely any new western comics that apply to what you speak off sadly
@ootoritheboobsman.9421
@ootoritheboobsman.9421 3 года назад
Exactly....
@mohitkhati5302
@mohitkhati5302 3 года назад
@@post-humangod2575 the irony is that the top selling comics in the world are not western comics but mangas and it isn't even close
@Lemon3_Works
@Lemon3_Works 3 года назад
Respect for Stan Lee and Kentaro Miura, they are probably watching us and waiting us to become the greatest comic/manga artists of all time.
@ErenYeager-yc2do
@ErenYeager-yc2do 7 месяцев назад
Stan Lee wasn't an artist
@lordbot9170
@lordbot9170 4 месяца назад
​@@ErenYeager-yc2do filthy weeb without respect
@giabaonn600
@giabaonn600 3 года назад
There’s shitty comics and trashy mangas but there’re also a lot of great comics and mangas. Don’t judge things by it lowest point, be fair. If manga fans want to bring out Vagabond and Berserk then Comic fans can bring out masterpieces like Sandman, the Dark Knight or The Killing Joke,... Overall this video is only based around art so I think we should talk about art style more. Personally I prefer comic art style for its epic coloring and amazing anatomy, poses! Nonetheless, some mangas really exceeded those criteria too, it’s amazing to see how different culture adapt the same kind of visual storytelling
@PixelBraint
@PixelBraint 3 года назад
This
@onionsoup3570
@onionsoup3570 3 года назад
Preach
@giornogiostar3214
@giornogiostar3214 3 года назад
Killing Joke is overrated and rushed, not a masterpiece.
@thelastgigachad7994
@thelastgigachad7994 3 года назад
@@giornogiostar3214 cap
@giornogiostar3214
@giornogiostar3214 3 года назад
@@thelastgigachad7994 No cap, even Moore said it.
@junioravila853
@junioravila853 3 года назад
Rest in peace Miura sensei.
@akumuryuuzaki5992
@akumuryuuzaki5992 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman Actually disgusting, I feel ashamed for living in the same planet as you
@hardikrai2836
@hardikrai2836 3 года назад
You can't say yoshihiro togashi like the "worst" mangaka. The man is a genius . His physical condition rendered him unable to draw
@kekbin1697
@kekbin1697 3 года назад
Nah he just lazy
@hardikrai2836
@hardikrai2836 3 года назад
@@kekbin1697 would you mind shutting up
@kekbin1697
@kekbin1697 3 года назад
@@hardikrai2836 just like miura, togashi become lazy shit that rather play dragon quest than drawing manga. Also, he is rich as fuck now, why bother drawing manga again?
@hardikrai2836
@hardikrai2836 3 года назад
@@kekbin1697 sorry I don't speak wrong
@thelastgigachad7994
@thelastgigachad7994 3 года назад
@@hardikrai2836 bruh why are you so childish
@jacobisla2819
@jacobisla2819 3 года назад
What the title should be: Legendary western artists vs. Legendary eastern artist.
@P5Joker
@P5Joker 3 года назад
I'll be honest man, the west _had_ amazing artists as household names in the comic industry at one point. But nowadays unfortunately not so much, at least the great ones aren't well known. The only ones getting any form of recognition are the ones drawing sub-par "politically correct" comics.
@user-ow1qs7jo7f
@user-ow1qs7jo7f 3 года назад
@@P5Joker now we have " I'm not Starfire"
@P5Joker
@P5Joker 3 года назад
@@user-ow1qs7jo7f 🤮🤮🤮
@yuukiruka3717
@yuukiruka3717 3 года назад
@@P5Joker agree, and sadly many of them only famous for superhero theme while eastern manga had more varied theme to use, even in my country manga is more popular than american comics and manga also easier to find in our bookstore, while western comic that sell in our country usually had relation to DC and marvel which didn had many variation than manga, u can correct me if im wrong im not really familiar with western comic but i many western author drawing are really good and it's such a shame to see good artist talent to be wasted and didnt being recognize by many people
@guts1859
@guts1859 3 года назад
The examples for Miura and Inoue don't do their work justice at all.
@bait5257
@bait5257 3 года назад
Yup
@justarandomgundhamtanakaen3344
@justarandomgundhamtanakaen3344 3 года назад
And araki, Part 7 is gorgeous but isnt showed here
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@justarandomgundhamtanakaen3344 ho Enrico! What a nice gravity this place has collected.
@natsukisubaru2763
@natsukisubaru2763 3 года назад
And Murata
@kow__
@kow__ 3 года назад
And murata
@thegaminguy3578
@thegaminguy3578 3 года назад
Mangakas can shine better as the industry is not saturated with just a few characters.the problem with American comics is that it's soo convoluted,most of the characters have a shit ton of comics and it makes it hard to follow
@Elricsedric
@Elricsedric 3 года назад
Comics aren't really saturated with few characters there is millions of characters and stories and even comics aren't just Marvel/dc theres multiple different stuff
@MrBigall
@MrBigall 3 года назад
So true, just discovered Invisible. It's way better than another rehashed known hero marvel/DC they keep writing. It gets tiresome.
@kominatoriku5483
@kominatoriku5483 3 года назад
@@Elricsedric by comic people mostly mean dc and marvel which are and that being one of the big reasons mangas are outselling comics
@shigeokageyama5938
@shigeokageyama5938 3 года назад
Yeah. I tried reading MARVEL/DC but I don't really know where to start. I read guides. But for some reason the start doesn't feel like a start. So yeah, i just gave it up LOL. And there's too many things going on anyway. Too messy. Searching standalone comics now though. I've watched Invincible S1 and now reading the comics. And it's good.
@Elricsedric
@Elricsedric 3 года назад
@@kominatoriku5483 even then i still disagree with that assumption
@wo0o0o97
@wo0o0o97 3 года назад
As a... uhm, WEEB, i can truly say that after this video, i have a lot more respect to comic artists and illustrators, i'd even put my baises aside and say that this illustrator, Alex Ross, does art better and more realistically than any artist i've ever had the pleasure of witnessing, and this is including the manga illustrators that i hold so much biased towards, like Kentarou Miura, Takehiko Inoue, and even Junji Ito. Great vid man! 👍
@joeclarke7982
@joeclarke7982 3 года назад
Ya Alex Ross is possibly the GOAT when it comes to comic art imo
@jonathanche6553
@jonathanche6553 3 года назад
@@joeclarke7982 his art is absolutely insane
@riardomilos8014
@riardomilos8014 3 года назад
@Shaman X damn bro that's gonna change somebody's mind if not for the broken English you wrote.
@askyourmama5862
@askyourmama5862 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman congratulations
@poof9327
@poof9327 3 года назад
@@joeclarke7982 it’s too realistic for me xD but he is great!
@varence7007
@varence7007 3 года назад
Winner: Jim Davis for Garfield 🏆
@Antioxidantz_
@Antioxidantz_ 4 года назад
Togashi Sensei stated that either his manga’s story will end first ir his life’s story will end first, Hunter x Hunter was one of the most notable mangas that Togashi had written. The story is long but not boring. He wanted Hunter x Hunter to have a satisfying ending but due to his current health state, he cannot continue the manga for awhile.
@memecream752
@memecream752 3 года назад
He should end it fast. The fans are assholes
@StrayLancer
@StrayLancer 3 года назад
The problem is he cant his back is killing him
@fahmiazhari1627
@fahmiazhari1627 3 года назад
@Shaman X sounds like bullshit for me
@musketeers9196
@musketeers9196 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman bro chill
@exist.mp4
@exist.mp4 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman Daddy chill 🙄👋
@zacharypreval3186
@zacharypreval3186 4 года назад
The video was overall good. But that shade you threw at togashi was unfair. Dude has chronic back pain which is why his art is not always consistent. When he is feeling well his art is God tier. Versus lifield who has bad anatomy.
@wherestoomy8880
@wherestoomy8880 3 года назад
I feel it is unfair as well, looking at the amount of beautiful artwork he’s committed in YYH and HxH before his hiatus went far off shouldn’t make him even close to being one of “the worst”, he even reworked on panels in HxH which he himself knew was inexcusable. Sure I agree he is literally shitting out dialogue in the latest HxH chapters but come on, the dude himself has drawn so much beautiful artwork in the panels of his manga. Which the majority of them have been great to look at, especially for a Weekly Shonen Jump magazine.
@kohaiame2691
@kohaiame2691 3 года назад
Shin Shamen was making fun of Muira's passing in another video; saying he was glad that he died.
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@Punch Line It doesn't surprize me though from other comments
@HerMi.T
@HerMi.T 3 года назад
Bad anatomy of liflied is just his artstyle like Eichiro oda's artstyle of one piece.
@historyking9984
@historyking9984 3 года назад
@@HerMi.T no it’s not. It’s different in a fantasy world like one piece where the anatomy of that kind is part of the world. In the comics liefeld was making it doesn’t make sense. Like arms don’t bend that way, that extra muscle doesn’t exist. He literally hates drawing feat so hurts the story and arch for images to not fit that
@sababichnig7729
@sababichnig7729 3 года назад
Why dont use part jojo 8 and 7 pannels.they have best art .
@iliveinsideyourhouse3943
@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 года назад
Part 7 is the best part
@ununun9995
@ununun9995 3 года назад
It's because this is supposed to be a comparison between two fairly similar work, not nessesarly the best
@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist
@YeahButCanISniffUrPantsFist 3 года назад
true, Araki shines also i didnt see D Gray mans mangaka Katsura Hoshino here yet despite of her ETHERAL art
@pinhead5467
@pinhead5467 3 года назад
Ehh I liked part 3-6 more since the characters rn feel like they have same face syndrome
@shaositofreemelee7345
@shaositofreemelee7345 3 года назад
True?
@kerrygamer9359
@kerrygamer9359 3 года назад
Rest in peace miura kentaro, I huge respect for you
@lukefloor
@lukefloor 3 года назад
Conclusion: if given enough time the most talented artists will have godly work no matter what they draw
@riardomilos8014
@riardomilos8014 3 года назад
Refined conclusion: time exist so does practice.
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
yeah just use Made in Heaven and your draftsmanship skills will rise from 20 to 150 in one day.
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@handmethatpochitussy Unless you Rohan Kishibe then you will just be the only one to keep up with the pace for a long time.
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
@@lorddio2737 true😭😭😭😭
@4nem0ne
@4nem0ne 3 года назад
doubt
@malagames5331
@malagames5331 3 года назад
Kentaro :(
@Yarnooee
@Yarnooee 3 года назад
take a shot when you see another batman.
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
I'm so fucking wasted rn
@vin6665
@vin6665 3 года назад
You’re gonna kill somebody.
@metaouroboros6324
@metaouroboros6324 3 года назад
So you've chosen death
@nittayoshifumi8252
@nittayoshifumi8252 3 года назад
Stop! Im ded already!
@bigdaddyb1837
@bigdaddyb1837 3 года назад
Manga better than marvel DC shit
@dimazulfakar7466
@dimazulfakar7466 3 года назад
I don't see any differences, just looking at the fact that all of this, whether comic or manga, requires great skill and great effort to become what it is today.
@bryanmerel
@bryanmerel 3 года назад
If the comparison was done current year, witch comics like "Im Not Starfire" and "New Warriors", manga will mop the floor with comics. ._.
@demonslayer6648
@demonslayer6648 3 года назад
True it's kinda sad because I use to love how western comics were colored and drawn but now everything just looks so bland while Manga is almost more artistic and expressive
@zombiecandy570
@zombiecandy570 3 года назад
I agree. But at the same time there’s stuff like dark knights death metal, king in black, x of swords, etc. which are all super recent and they have phenomenal art.
@bryanmerel
@bryanmerel 3 года назад
@@zombiecandy570 can't say that's enough. Specialy since for every one good comic out there, there's 20 good manga to challenge it.
@zombiecandy570
@zombiecandy570 3 года назад
@@bryanmerel I’m not saying one is better than the other. I highly respect both. I just wanted to make it clear that there are still passionate and skilled western comic artists in the industry. And that isn’t to say that there aren’t equally as passionate and skilled manga artists.
@demonslayer6648
@demonslayer6648 3 года назад
@@zombiecandy570 True there are definitely still a number of amazing western comic artists
@KiraDidNothingWrong
@KiraDidNothingWrong 3 года назад
Actually funny how people get so defensive. Is just a video HxH is good, stop whining
@TheUltimaBoxer
@TheUltimaBoxer 3 года назад
Want to use killer queen on them?
@alessandrofilippetti
@alessandrofilippetti 3 года назад
I agree, I also love yu yu hakusho but it's undeniable what is stated about the author
@TheUltimaBoxer
@TheUltimaBoxer 3 года назад
@Shaman X you are garbage
@u-thix2436
@u-thix2436 3 года назад
@Shin Shaman Okay cool
@Agustin_Leal
@Agustin_Leal 3 года назад
@@TheUltimaBoxer You are all garbage! (Keanu Reeves reference)
@cankul7745
@cankul7745 3 года назад
I reaaly want to see Junji Ito in here...
@Simone-ep8wu
@Simone-ep8wu 3 года назад
Holy words
@bait5257
@bait5257 3 года назад
Berserk takes it away. He just didn't show any good panels at all
@cankul7745
@cankul7745 3 года назад
@@bait5257 tastes are indusputable :/
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
you mean the TREVOR HENDERSON of Japan?
@zionpark0803
@zionpark0803 3 года назад
I'm Japanese myself and prefer mangas over comics overall, but The Adventures of Tintin has special place in my heart. It's my childhood.
@doodleboi7034
@doodleboi7034 3 года назад
Its great.
@doclouis4236
@doclouis4236 2 года назад
I'm surprised no one has done a video about European comics vs. Manga yet.
@ananya3171
@ananya3171 2 года назад
Exactly my words
@Mikazuchireborn
@Mikazuchireborn Год назад
@@doclouis4236 European comics is an absolute goldmine, and it deserves more attention in North America. For me, Asterix is absolutely magical. I could pick an old book every couple of years and have a completely different experience. Reading Asterix as kid: Laugh at all the funny jokes and slapstick. Reading Asterix as an adult: Suddenly notice all the historical jokes and references that completely flew over my head!
@steelymanfan7276
@steelymanfan7276 10 месяцев назад
When people say this same thing but with comics all the anime fans start assuming they've never read any manga's. I don't know why everyone pushes down comics so much, they are good a lot of the time, and as well as this people complain about how op the characters are and complain about scaling (and having looked at how some anime characters are scaled, making fun of comics scaling is amusingly ironic)
@jas_bataille
@jas_bataille 3 года назад
I think that people need to understand the vast difference between the Manga industry, the traditional comics industry in the US, and the European comics industry. In Japan, manga books are so mainstream that people left them on the subway's seats! Also, the characters are totally not owned by their creators, legally talking, the creators are bound to the magazines and publication houses they signed with. Example : when Shaman King was cancelled from Jump because the ratings got too low according to Jump magazine, which is a huge corporation in Japan, Hiroyuki Taikei could NOT self-publish or even seek another publisher...! He lost the possibility of ending is epic 32 books series, up until another publication house decided to buy the rights from Jump. The Manga industry is a lot more like the Pop music or Hollywood industry in the West. It's hugely mainstream, competitive, the creators are rock stars, but there a whole team behind the most popular series, much more than for comics. The size and nature of the industry is entirely different. Mangas are consumed like fast-food. In the West the comics is now mostly a collectors' market; and in Europe, it turned into a collectors' market a long time ago with the large-format hardcover books. I'm not sure people get the scope of work needed to be a successful published mangaka in Japan. 60-80 hours weeks non-stop and your entire life's work, even if it's cult, can get cancelled over some rating. Think 3x the amount of work needed for a successful webcomic. It simply is not the comic paradise we want to believe it is here in the West. There is a cost to selling so many copies of anything.
@cyberman1305
@cyberman1305 3 года назад
European comics industry are dead!!!!!!!!!!
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@cyberman1305 Yes
@gamenorman1961
@gamenorman1961 2 года назад
It's obvious, isn't it, that other companies can't sell Spiderman exclusively on their own, even in west? The main issue is the payment of royalties to the author. manag gets royalties to the author. The comic system, where the author does not receive royalties, should be seriously considered.
@edinsonbentancurt6520
@edinsonbentancurt6520 3 года назад
Bringing imagination to life with a pencil is a very amazing thing, I don't think we should compare them, they're different styles
@cyspiegel8603
@cyspiegel8603 3 года назад
I never liked this stance in these kind of discussions... cause deep down you have a preference if you're honest with yourself. Ferrari vs Lamborghini, Red or Blue, Madrid vs Barcelona, Prince or Michael Jackson... deep down you have a choice for all those, and that's ok.
@damianogiolitti3416
@damianogiolitti3416 3 года назад
@@cyspiegel8603 yeah you have no control over your preferences so why hide them. At the end it's just an opinion
@Wishhuhhh
@Wishhuhhh 3 года назад
@@damianogiolitti3416 yeahh but many people become toxic and hate each other There are some toxic comic and manga reader
@M3M33thousand
@M3M33thousand 3 года назад
@@cyspiegel8603 it’s common sense really. What you prefer is not the same as what is objectively “better". I may like metal more than rock but that doesn’t make rock worse, it’s just different, which is why art is mostly subjective rather than factual
@shakthiganesh5117
@shakthiganesh5117 3 года назад
@@cyspiegel8603 Preference is different though. What the OP is saying is that one is not objectively better than the other since they are both different styles.
@theblackwheelbarrow1562
@theblackwheelbarrow1562 4 года назад
this video should be discounted for the mere fact that Togashi is 'considered' to be the worst mangaka. Absolutely bullshit.
@eh5349
@eh5349 3 года назад
Cool a guy who never probably even watch or read the manga callin it sucks
@ovfilho
@ovfilho 3 года назад
Togashi em "Level E" tá sensacional
@splashbin
@splashbin 3 года назад
why do people hate togashi’s art so much? it’s not even bad
@felizianosole896
@felizianosole896 3 года назад
@@jalenharris7326 es que es que hxh siempre es lo mejor
@azammudin882
@azammudin882 3 года назад
@@splashbin hater always being toxic.
@captainavenger360
@captainavenger360 3 года назад
While you can't deny Kirby's influence and talent. I'm pretty sure the Father of Comics is Will Eisner. He had an amazing output of comics after serving in WWII. He even invented the term "Graphic Novel" when trying to pitch some comics.
@fernandosiahaan906
@fernandosiahaan906 3 года назад
Both are amazing, but there is something 'alive and breathing ' inside manga drawings. I dont know how to describe it
@ahmadsyukrimohdshamsul6768
@ahmadsyukrimohdshamsul6768 3 года назад
Probably because the face are too perfect. I duuno don't flame me
@Ouchthathurt843
@Ouchthathurt843 3 года назад
Its just the style of comics, but you get used to it in my opinion. Coming from manga to comics I thought was weird too, but I learned to enjoy it and get a feel for it. I feel like some in this comment section came from a more manga background and find comics strange or even inferior when they're just different.
@mohammadshabih5293
@mohammadshabih5293 3 года назад
@@Ouchthathurt843 do you have any recommendations?
@babywolf4238
@babywolf4238 3 года назад
@@mohammadshabih5293 What are you looking for?
@Christopher._M
@Christopher._M 3 года назад
@@Ouchthathurt843 artistically they both have their strengths and weaknesses. Story wise and even emotionally i would pick manga. Not to mention they also have so much more variety. They can literally make a story about farming, cooking, and sleeping have a nice spin to it.
@Remholder
@Remholder 3 года назад
I think my favorite thing from this video was seeing the similarities between these artists. In regards to Mignola vs. Atsushi, you can see how they use depth and shadow in their work. Its semi simplified but it never loses its emotion. I feel this was less like a "who did it better" and more of a "hey look, these are two different genres of art, but look at how alike they can be!" and for that, i appreciate this video, it was nice to see this.
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
They aren't different genre's more different adaptations of one Medium The difference is literally only the place of origin and the cultural influence in that.
@YannickTMessiah
@YannickTMessiah 3 года назад
Same, I never realized how close some of these artists are, it's very interesting.
@TheMousePokemon
@TheMousePokemon 3 года назад
Broke: Comics vs Manga Woke: Comic Artists vs Mangakas
@SFTaYZa
@SFTaYZa 3 года назад
Broke and woke are one in the same.
@prajawalgurung6121
@prajawalgurung6121 2 года назад
Notice how a lot of the comic artists' works shown here are superheroes/supervillains but mangakas have a wider array of character types.
@deavinwarren1412
@deavinwarren1412 2 года назад
Notice how most of the Manga look the same while the comics have very different art styles and character designs
@prajawalgurung6121
@prajawalgurung6121 2 года назад
@@deavinwarren1412 I think that applies more to mainstream anime, would you happen to be talking of big eyes, small nose, small mouth, big head attributes?
@DrWiki-po1hk
@DrWiki-po1hk 2 года назад
@@deavinwarren1412 Notice how comics are for identity politics while manga is about conceptual art?
@DrWiki-po1hk
@DrWiki-po1hk 2 года назад
@@prajawalgurung6121 Yes because he doesn't read manga. Don't let the wannabe anime in his profile picture fool you. Japan doesn't draw that.
@deavinwarren1412
@deavinwarren1412 2 года назад
@@DrWiki-po1hk manga also has Politics as well and notice how you don't actually know s*** about comics because they're still making incredible art dumbass look I know you're just a biased anime weep that has no real arguments and hasn't picked up already comic only watch those why manga is out selling comic videos how about actually reading comics before you try to talk about them
@Drawingsagespaz
@Drawingsagespaz 4 года назад
I like the fact that all the comic artists and manga artists are line up is base on how each of their work mirrors each other.
@moriarty5863
@moriarty5863 4 года назад
hmmm, i personally wouldnt say Togashi was bad, the character was supposed to look grotesque, it wasnt supposed to be human. It was literally written as a monster, so it should look like one.
@dedcapybara9158
@dedcapybara9158 3 года назад
We have the same 💭thoughts
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
Indeed
@realefrain7179
@realefrain7179 3 года назад
With Comic book artists, they put a lot of shadow and detail, which I love and is really difficult to imitate With Mangakas they simplify a few things while managing to make it look cool, they create new cool characters which I like Conclusion: Comic book artists are amazing at shadow and detail Mangakas are better at fashion and characters But both are good at making characters seem 3D and realistic
@akirosensei
@akirosensei 3 года назад
Nowaday comic artist focus on black people if you hate your favorited character got blacked = you racist, Or they force you to like LGBT characters or make some straight guy into gay, if you don't like that they wanna make you a jerk. Comic now just focus on that and there no equally people got bored of Dc and mArvel got reboot every damn times then where to start to read comic now? Got To say Now in monthly sales Manga is fuking winning, Yes they are winning. Mangaka don't give a damn about gay or lgbt or black people it dont matter because the story is about asian people, there tan character don't make big deal. They Focus on story, as manga artist if you story suck, You OUT, lose view in magazine you OUT, All the manga came from Japan, they are really good that why they got out Japan and came to Wester for example Attack on titan, Boku no hero, demon slayer took over the wester. Focus On the damn story, as an Asian i don't care if you "comic" artist force me to like a black or lgbt people in their comic, no i dont give a damn you story suck, you OUT
@jaegerbombbomb6129
@jaegerbombbomb6129 3 года назад
The worst thing is they take like hours or days to paint them and some people only watch it for like 10 seconds T-T
@user-xh6ju3pg8c
@user-xh6ju3pg8c 3 года назад
I take my time to know and analyze how they did such amazing work
@handmethatpochitussy
@handmethatpochitussy 3 года назад
The Berserk manga takes months for each chapter to release because Kentarou needs time to do his "Magic" on the manga.
@erenyeagerist7681
@erenyeagerist7681 3 года назад
This guy is being disrespectful to Togashi. I can see which this guy favors to
@michaelthexm048
@michaelthexm048 3 года назад
How?
@zeflox_
@zeflox_ 3 года назад
Shut up
@pinhead5467
@pinhead5467 3 года назад
💀what?
@michaelthexm048
@michaelthexm048 3 года назад
@@zeflox_ who me?
@ahmadsyukrimohdshamsul6768
@ahmadsyukrimohdshamsul6768 3 года назад
Relax jeagerist. Continue following eren to destroy marley rather than being picky
@iliveinsideyourhouse3943
@iliveinsideyourhouse3943 3 года назад
You don't even compared the arts of osamu tezuka and Jack Kirby.
@pedromendonca1240
@pedromendonca1240 3 года назад
You can't just put gods to fight
@Wellshem
@Wellshem 3 года назад
Their fight would break the universe apart, it's like the OG superman vs Simon the Digger
@thegeniekazam2820
@thegeniekazam2820 3 года назад
Jack Kirby was more of an artist, Tezuka was more of a cartoonist
@BadassMoFo.
@BadassMoFo. Год назад
Alex Ross's art has more realism into his tone of skills but Kentaro Miura had more detail to the characteristics involving its grittiness of his style. Both of them are legends *R.I.P. Kentaro Miura*
@wiktorija3
@wiktorija3 3 года назад
I think both comic artists and magakas are amazing at their art.
@nikhilpandey2618
@nikhilpandey2618 3 года назад
I love both comics and Manga art. ❤️❤️
@eu.p.5807
@eu.p.5807 4 года назад
I lol'd at the "worst" comic artist and "worst" manga artist.
@cyspiegel8603
@cyspiegel8603 3 года назад
Whoever does Mob Psycho 100 should've gotten an honorable mention in that category 😂😂
@guy-rk1jj
@guy-rk1jj 3 года назад
Thats the same dude that did one punch man lol. He wasnt an artist to begin with but he is a pretty damn good storyteller
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@cyspiegel8603 "One" the same guy behind OPM
@paste5502
@paste5502 3 года назад
I can't let you get away with that togashi shit man, he's one of the best mangaka ever. His art is only really bad pretty rarely, and it has more to do with his mental health than his artistic skill. But when he's good, he's fucking good. Some of the best design sense, paneling and just visual storytelling in either comics or manga
@amoralpedantic
@amoralpedantic 3 года назад
Yeah I thought that was pretty disrespectful to Togashi. Considering the health issues he's had to deal with, while penning some of the greatest Action/Shounen of all time.
@paste5502
@paste5502 3 года назад
@hobo I mean yea lol, there's a point where that shit is just unreadable. But when hunter hunter is good, it's really fucking good
@JohnVmc2
@JohnVmc2 3 года назад
Yes, but Rob Liefeld is, actually, a better comic artist them him. or you're trying to imply that the creator is trying to say that both as trash, except that only Togashi isn't as bad as people claim? If that's the point you're trying to make, them you're being unfair.
@MegaJdavis15
@MegaJdavis15 4 года назад
Hard to say, there are a-lot of great works from these artist. The only thing I can says is; in manga the artist puts in a-lot more emotion in there works.
@username2872
@username2872 4 года назад
Plus alot of screen tone hehe
@juanherasme5693
@juanherasme5693 4 года назад
That's why it's their own characters that they put a little bit of their persona in them
@sladethrasher7569
@sladethrasher7569 4 года назад
I wouldn't say that. They have to follow a certain style to be considered manga. Comic don't have boundaries, they could even do manga looking art style. But yes I do agree they put more emotion into the faces, kind like whay Todd mcfarlane does, he breaks the anatomy.
@dc3540
@dc3540 4 года назад
The selling rate of manga us much higher
@sladethrasher7569
@sladethrasher7569 4 года назад
@@dc3540 That's because stupid kids like boys that look like girls. Weirdest generation ever...
@Janintong
@Janintong 3 года назад
I just love seeing Guts and Wolverine side by side
@Wellshem
@Wellshem 3 года назад
Those two gritty would secretly like each other
@tahmkench118
@tahmkench118 3 года назад
@@Wellshem And both of their lives have been filled with nothing but pain and suffering.
@georgejoestarii9469
@georgejoestarii9469 3 года назад
Gambino and Thomas Logan are pieces of SHIT MAN. John Howlett Sr is the Dad that we need.
@jordannetwork9046
@jordannetwork9046 3 года назад
I would never compare beautiful art to each other they're both honestly talented without manga and comic book artists our favorite characters would be nothing they're just important as their stories
@onewingedren2228
@onewingedren2228 3 года назад
My favorites: Hirohiko Araki, Kentaro Miura (Rest in Peace), Yusuke Murata and Takehito Inoue Bonus: Akira Toriyama his style it's simple but one of the most recognizable and unique
@cilantro5221
@cilantro5221 4 года назад
I honestly prefer manga to comics but comics still look amazing
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
The art is more refined in realismwhile manga tend to stylise.
@jsonboy2365
@jsonboy2365 3 года назад
Yeah but comic don't have many charater then manga
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
@@jsonboy2365 they will counter that with crossovers.
@eyeviewer7298
@eyeviewer7298 3 года назад
Tanto los creadores de cómics como mangakas tienen una pasión increíble por dibujar y crear historias.
@jawohs5118
@jawohs5118 3 года назад
Despite how different the artstyle is from comic vs manga, you can tell they are very similar. Whether it’s detailed, perspective or inking, they’re all equally amazing. They’re all amazing artists and there’s no need to say which is better. :)
@ナギサ-y8l
@ナギサ-y8l 3 года назад
ほんと外国人って「VS」やらで、どっちが優れてるか優劣を計ろうとするよな。そんなんだから差別とかなくならねぇじゃないの?
@ブリロー
@ブリロー 3 года назад
最後まで観ような。 日本人が制作した動画だぞw
@shiw5373
@shiw5373 3 года назад
言葉狩りしないで肩の力抜けよ。リスペクトに溢れてて良い動画だったぜ
@moooxxx
@moooxxx 3 года назад
似た作風の作家同士で比べていてすごい。コミック・マンガ両方へのリスペクトを感じる
@だいじょぶだぁ
@だいじょぶだぁ 3 года назад
分かる。 よく調べであるし、愛感じる。
@TheZooropaBaby
@TheZooropaBaby 3 года назад
個人的にはあんまり比較が上手くできてないような…
@Chicxulubs
@Chicxulubs 2 года назад
yes
@一木健作-n8u
@一木健作-n8u 2 года назад
メビウスの一人勝ちでしょ
@tsudeki
@tsudeki 3 года назад
why are bald guys so good at drawing
@cochayuyo1084
@cochayuyo1084 3 года назад
Being bald gives you power
@maximumcola9424
@maximumcola9424 3 года назад
Frank Miller’s work is personally my favourite, I also like Kentaro Miura’s art (Rest in peace)
@spaaaaace8952
@spaaaaace8952 2 года назад
Wow. I honestly thought this would be just an average video of a fanboy, instead, I found an unbiased comparison of powerhouse artists and their counterpart of the other side. Well done, NUEBOHEMIO. You're obviously knowledgeable on the stuff, and you clearly did your research.
@thelastonetofall108
@thelastonetofall108 3 года назад
For anyone who's here for Kentaro Miura: 14:30
@royolaniye6643
@royolaniye6643 3 года назад
Actually it's 15:20 don't know what this idiot was saying
@coltwgrice
@coltwgrice 3 года назад
@@royolaniye6643 Yes and 48 people liked it?
@royolaniye6643
@royolaniye6643 3 года назад
@@coltwgrice I'm just as confused
@MisterBungle
@MisterBungle 3 года назад
People hate on American comic art because it's harder to draw, whereas anime/manga is more simplified, so everyone and their grandma can draw anime, it so easy. That's why everyone loves and prefers it. I do like Yusuke Murata's art style, he's got a hybrid of comic and manga in his art style at times. Overall, American Comic art is superior.
@kindlingking
@kindlingking 3 года назад
No, they hate on endless rehashes of the same characters and stories. Both manga and comics can be highly detailed or simplified and stylised, don't misinterpret manga as some kind of child's play. Or if you insist, I dare you to replicate some pages from Vagabond, since it's supposed to be so easy.
@user-xh6ju3pg8c
@user-xh6ju3pg8c 3 года назад
You are competitors wrong about manga
@josealzaibar5274
@josealzaibar5274 3 года назад
Manga: all original characters encompassing all kinds of genres Comics: same characters over and over again, all super heroes.
@James-oj6ru
@James-oj6ru 3 года назад
Reason why being.... DC and Marvel... you know, popularity, mangaka.... although got slave drive to hell, has more freedom in what they want to draw.... somewhat (editors are there to regulate quality or choose which design choices is bad... or be a total fucking ass), comic artist... don’t get the same treatment, there will be some new IP there and there but... yeah.... not to mention, _IT IS NOW A GROUP OF PEOPLE GETTING SLAVE DRIVED_
@cassi8397
@cassi8397 3 года назад
Basado
@astronomical3342
@astronomical3342 3 года назад
Oh if comics were original they would be god tier and worth reading
@TheZooropaBaby
@TheZooropaBaby 3 года назад
also a lot of these images from comic book artists include commission and promo art and im sure they get lots and lots of DC/Marvel characters requested, so...that's not a comparison, a lot of artists listed here have done original series (ie most of Image founders, Frank MIller with 300 and Sin City, Greg Capullo is working with Scott Snyder now, Bill Sienkiewicz did some work with Alan Moore including unfinished but veer ambitious Big Numbers.....its kind of ignorant to assume US comic book is all big 2, that's not really true since 80s/90s
@notaperson3786
@notaperson3786 3 года назад
@@astronomical3342 bro you'd love image comics lmao
@stzk2
@stzk2 9 месяцев назад
漫画って日本語だから日本人作者が描いたものをMANGAって言われるようになったけど、韓国や中国のものもMANGAと呼ばれてるのは初めて知った まあ韓国だったら正確にはMANHWAだよね
@sethleoric2598
@sethleoric2598 3 года назад
Same profession.different countries. All equally good. Anyway you can clearly see they all took inspiration from each other and the old masters so..
@corrinflakes9659
@corrinflakes9659 3 года назад
While both comic artists and mangaka are wonderful, in Mark Bagley vs. Yusuke Murata, I have a bias towards Yusuke Murata's foreshortening of Spider-Man (last image between the comparison of the two) more. Yusuke Murata is a master of technical/interesting/wild perspectives. Even going so far as to make a rotating shot that could be animated but in a manga.
@dushaunlewis7574
@dushaunlewis7574 Год назад
I've read Murata's redraws of One Punch Man and looked at some of his other drawings; this man is talented. With that said, I still prefer Mark Bagley's Spider-man - maybe because I'm used to that particular style for him
@felixdom9693
@felixdom9693 Год назад
All those comic artist they been drawing the same character whatever be a DC characters or marvel characters! So different when it come to Japanese mangaka that they created their OWN CHARACTER OWN STORY AND BE THE REAL LEGEND TO EVER EXIST
@keremmazman3761
@keremmazman3761 Год назад
Most of the western artists in this video have worked on creator owned stuff as well. But video didn't incude them because everybody knows Batman and spider-man, not everybody knows The Maxx or Ninjak.
@千利休の暇つぶし
@千利休の暇つぶし 3 года назад
弐瓶勉さんが入ってんの嬉しいな 作風が似てるもの同士を比較してんのか 編集とチョイスがうまい
@muffdingo
@muffdingo 3 года назад
Comic book artists take it for me. Very close but the fact that they have a more realistic art style in the comics is what I like more personally
@guts1859
@guts1859 3 года назад
Go look at vagabond art, it's incredibly realistic
@muffdingo
@muffdingo 3 года назад
@@guts1859 one artist doesn’t make up for a collective of artist. Sorry just not how it works
@fluiddityy7398
@fluiddityy7398 3 года назад
@Hamza Akram it should be evident comics go for a more realistic art style. If any “anime weebs” won’t admit it I seriously doubt they are above the age of 13. Manga IMO still have much better storylines and characters.
@fluiddityy7398
@fluiddityy7398 3 года назад
@Hamza Akram I was agreeing with you idiot
@Wishhuhhh
@Wishhuhhh 3 года назад
I have read both comics and manga so Manga:artistic Comics:realistics In the end both are equally good cause both have there pros and cons
@luissantiagomijareso.2450
@luissantiagomijareso.2450 3 года назад
I'm looking for a Scot Eaton fan to discuss why Araki is better *JUST JOKING BOYS, BOTH ARE GREAT ARTISTS*
@lorddio2737
@lorddio2737 3 года назад
I realy think Scott eatons style is great for Iron man because the shading and reflections are Intense and dynanic. The difference would araki's sketchy shading wich just complete turned itsself into our heads as this truly unique thing.
@BioStock08
@BioStock08 Год назад
Japanese's guys know how to put motion into their art. Westerns just make characters stand around looking cool.
@milagrosalfonso2501
@milagrosalfonso2501 8 месяцев назад
Basically, it's a lot more dynamic in general. I absolutely hate how much of comics too have this exaggerated facial expressions.
@ryxarkhalyx
@ryxarkhalyx 11 месяцев назад
its fascinating most of idiots here only think about superhero when it comes too western comic😂
@tunneler9967
@tunneler9967 2 года назад
Moebius and Alex Ross are kings western comic.
@draco9.364
@draco9.364 3 года назад
Adios kentaro :(
@wolfbrigade8042
@wolfbrigade8042 3 года назад
As someone already mentioned I also think that comic artists should start to develop their own stories and characters instead of rehashing the same 10 heroes over and over again. Manga still stays fresh all the time because so many new stories and characters are constantly coming out which boosts its variety a lot over comics.
@seedad117
@seedad117 2 года назад
Alot of them did that and most of them are published by image comics like James Harren he was doing thor now he went on to do rumble and ultramega now
@dushaunlewis7574
@dushaunlewis7574 Год назад
I'm late, but this comment sounds like it comes from someone who doesn't read much American comics.
@JoJoOnYouTube
@JoJoOnYouTube Год назад
@@dushaunlewis7574 usually people that say this don't, I've met people that didn't know TWD and Riverdale were based on comics.
@Claude-wd8hi
@Claude-wd8hi 9 месяцев назад
De ce que je sais y'a des comics independant et puis moi ça me dérange pas
@milagrosalfonso2501
@milagrosalfonso2501 8 месяцев назад
I jusr hate how much of comics have this exaggerated looks on them
@thelivingshado5
@thelivingshado5 2 года назад
Okay, seeing Darwyn Cooke paired with Akira Toriyama was just one of the godliest things I've ever seen.
@Emy-fv5ny
@Emy-fv5ny 3 года назад
I prefer Mangakas always, Why? Just look at the panels of Katsuhiro Otomo, Shinichi Sakamoto, Inoue Takehiko and the great Kentaro Miura (Rest in greatness). 🙏 Not only for the drawing the stories are solid too.
@swift_lordyt6865
@swift_lordyt6865 3 года назад
How many lol? Watchmen, Sandman and Saga are still miles better than any comics /mangas ever.
@nonetheless3520
@nonetheless3520 Год назад
There is no fucking comparison on manga over comics so don't do that
@yagacomicart
@yagacomicart 3 года назад
19:54 ok ok ........... ditko for gods sake
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