I address common responses to my perspective on having a child and the child free movement as a generation Z. Follow me on Instagram: / homemaker.finance.wife Be sure to subscribe for more faith, finance, and wifehood chats!
Have you heard of Simone And Malcolm Collins? They're pro-natalists who live a quasi-amish style life. They're strong defenders of people having kids but they're in favor of incorporating fertility-related technology into child bearing. They're probably most known for having gone thorugh IVF and embryo selection for the sake of bearing kids with higher intelligence and less genetic disorders. A lot of people would probably consider it controversial but that's their view on it.
Interesting, I have not heard of them. I'm not necessarily saying that people must have children like these people or that we should create living embryos and then select. If people do have to go through IVF there's ways I think to make only a few embryos so that none are destroyed.
I disagree. All childfree people aren't immature freeloaders and every parent do not plan nor have the ability to take care of children (and I'd also say that to the majority of CF people, money is hardly ever the main reason for them to be CF). A child is only one kind of responsibility you can have on your life. You can have a responsible job (you're not irreplaceable as a parent, either, as many parents seem to think, even by the expense of the well-being of their children). You can do charity work. You can step in to help your relatives or friends. And sometimes it's indeed a sign of maturity to not have children when you realize the reality isn't there to secure their life. It's pretty disrespectful to say all these people are less responsible simply because they don't have children. Also, sometimes parenthood brings the worst out of people as well. Entitlement, will to control, isolation etc. Many parents also have children to "relive" their lives, pushing their dreams on them, or have children to postpone the management of their traumas or other mental issues. Good for those who end up a good happy family. But it's not as black and white as you make it to seem. Also, we do need to drop the number of people on the planet ASAP, that's simply a fact supported by many fields. Longer we wait and greater we grow before we encourage anyone (even just the people who are willing) to be CF, greater the catastrophe will be globally in the future. I see CF population as the natural way to decrease the population, and if anything, we should support this population, not put them down or try to manipulate them to have children.
Did I ever say all? I said that CF should be the exception not the majority. Also if you had all the people in the earth and each person was given 500 sq feet of space the whole earth would fill up the state of Montana. (Note I heard that on a podcast have not done the math personally but even if that's not the case I'd bet that people still would not be taking up that much space.) To your child you are irreplaceable as a parent. However I do agree that some people are not mature when they become parents and so they are actually not beneficial to their children. My point is that everyone should have the maturity to be able to have kids and if one of the reasons I stated poses a problem for them, then there's ways to find resolutions
@@ellianna.keller I don't know exactly how much is 500sq since I'm European. However, just the space to stand and have a house is not all people need. We also spend space on the fields growing food, fields growing food to our livestock (the majority of firlds are for this purpose actually), for the infrastructure, factories, to manufacture the raw material to products, to offer different services so on and so on... We're totally reaching the limit if we're talking about living, breathing, eating, waste-producing humans there's no way to deny that. No you're not. Orphans exist, children living among the host families or relatives exist. It's a sad reality for some children, but they can live without their parents, they're not irreplaceable in that sense like you make it sound to be. Even the children living with their biological parents have (should have) other supporting adults around them moreover the parents. A child only having their two parents around is in a vulnerable position. My point was, some people may have the maturity needed to have children, but they still may not want them, for a myriad of valid personal reasons. Sure if one _does_ want to have children but is just insecure about how it will all work out, we should support them to achieve that dream (in my country we actually do that, by the tax-funded birth, daycare, education, health care, social security services). But you were especially talking about CF people, those are not that target audience.
@@ellianna.keller Being childfree is an INDIVIDUAL & PERSONAL choice. If we decide to remain childfree for the rest our lives, then it's none of your business. It's our bodies and our choice.
Honey the state of Montana is small relative to the ENTIRE WORLD. My point is if the entire current population could fit in that space (it's enough for a small house) then we can certainly still fit in the entire world. I never said orphans don't exist or that people could survive without parents. However in order for humans to thrive they need a mom and a dad there's so much evidence to support that. I also never said that they don't have a benefit of other adults. Family and grandparents are so beneficial. But in order for humans to live a thriving life they do need their parents. Orphans can still eventually have a thriving life and other people who don't have a stable family culture but it will be much harder and there'll be a lot of undoing they'll have to go through emotionally. In order to raise healthy humans they do need their parents. I never said let's force people to have kids. I do think people need to actually start evaluating their motives though
