Commodore 64 vs. Amstrad CPC - 8 games from 1987 

You could arguably say where devs put effort into speccie games, as most of the great releases here were good slightly faster speccie games where the code waw converted and the graphics improved - e.g. Renegade.

@@Edgel-in6bs You are wrong. Renegade Amstrad do not share code with the Spectrum version. Arkanoid CPC is overscan and is probably running completely different code than the Spectrum

Yes, lots of CPC games were jerky. Even Spectrum version were much better.

@@ZxSpectrumplus CPC had to move data in a video RAM that is double of that of the ZX, with the same CPU.

I think colours is very much what you prefer at an individual level and I rather like the muted duller yet more realistic colour palette from 64 but there's no denying how pretty Amstrad can look at times with it's more vivid colours. Scrolling isn't always so essential I find providing the movement of the framerate is at least consistent and I find C64's drabber tones occasionally make scrolling games sometimes a little bland in comparison to Amstrad games. But then you can have the very best looking and moving games on the C64 like Delta Armalyte or Sams Journey etc etc showcasing it's strengths quite evidently. Strengths both machines have when utilised the best way

I can't hear the SID is better here. Only a few games of the shown ones have a good effort in the sound department, like Monty and Arkanoid, and the SID sounds way worse than the AY in those cases. Most other games just have some blips and noise sounds.

Hey, thanks! Is the game perhaps Chips Challenge? URL: www.lemon64.com/game/chips-challenge

Maybe its a Conversion of BREAKOUT!, nothing to do with the arkanoid type, its a game I know from the MSX 1 - there you have the "inside computer" graphics, more or less above perspective, and to solve an davanture. Might be converted to the c64, spectrum or amstrad. Good luck!

Pastels ? i would say washed out colors exposed to far too much sunlight... and i owned both computers but C64 simply doesnt cut it. We had to wait for the aimga to brilliantly correct that point.

@@jda4887 But scrolling and gameplay wise, i will take C64 anyday. Amstrad games tends to have too much colors and became garrish.

@@ZxSpectrumplus hardware scrolling and sprites makes it easy on the slower C64 cpu. Gotta remember that C64 was aimed to be as a gaming console in the first place

@jda4887 Aren't pastels basically washed out colors exposed to far too much sunlight tho? :D

@@tsuikagura yep but in all honesty colors aren't my sore point with the c64, jailbars are ... at the time the c64 was roughly priced 30 percent more than an amstrad and its tv output was and still mediocre. Not only that bit the c128 would be out with an even worse one at premium price mind you...

Question of taste. Effects offered by the SID chip are impressive but personnally I don't like its nosy sound. AY/YM chips are the sound of the 80's, used in so many consoles, computers and arcade systems 😉

Exolon CPC any day. What's with that monochrome sprite? ugly speccy ported. Arkanoid CPC vertical overscan, winner ...

Largely disagree. Exolon for me is a clear win for the Amstrad, better graphics and even sound for a change. Freddy Hardest too - see, the Amstrad can do good scrolling if programmers make an effort.... Amstrad Arkanoid's narrow window is more authentic, but I get that the C64 one looks impressive at first glance. Having had a Spectrum I prefer the look of Amstrad Monty, perhaps as its so Spectrumy, but maybe that's personal preference?

And the C64 hardware scrolling and sprites

No scrolling on Amstrad though.

awful palette compared to 16 washed out golours? nah

Amstrad palette wins in most cases for me, though the C64 one can be more realistic. CPC wins for 3D and often 2.5D (especially isometric) because of the processor too. The CPC can scroll, but unfortunately most coders didn't work out how to. If you compare games that are on both, the C64 usually wins, but some of the French / Spanish and homebrew games which really challenge the CPC make me think that (sound and music aside) it might actually be the more powerful

Most of these videos are controversy bait. There's always _something._ I had a C64 and later an Amiga but liked every computer, amongst my group of friends we had basically all brands and models available in our market covered and I have many charming memories of every one of them. System wars are stupid.

@@oscarjimenezgarrido7591 I feel the same. I never had any friends with an Amstrad, but I had friends with Acorn Electrons, Spectrums, Commodore +4's and Atari VCS consoles. There were brilliant games on all the systems, and I loved how each system gave a different experience from the other.

Amstrad screens feel unrealistically blocky. It looks a lot better on its bundled CRT RGB monitor though

@@ivarfiske1913 That's emulation for you. Some of these, on the other hand, feel also unrealistically smooth and swift compared to the same games running on real Amstrad hardware, to be honest. And this is coming from someone who also loves the Amstrad. As I said, these videos are always subtly built with controversy bait in mind - not to mention, in this channel's case, a little bit of bias against the C brand, too. But it is what it is.

@@oscarjimenezgarrido7591 games running better on emulation than real hardware. Thats a first in Amstrad emulation. Never heard anyone claim that before. Never seen it in Amstrad emulation either. So which of these games do this in your opinion? My guess is that of what you claim seeing is real, it is your TV that is set to adding frames. That can easily be fixed by turning off the weird things TVs today do with its input signals