Comparing Healthcare in Denmark versus Healthcare in America

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HEALTHCARE IN DENMARK VERSUS HEALTHCARE IN AMERICA
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In this video we tackle the topic of healthcare in Denmark versus healthcare in America. This basic overview compares both systems from a broad level.
Both Danish healthcare and American healthcare have a mix of private healthcare options and public healthcare systems. However, they are mirror images of one another with Denmark having full national health care coverage paid by taxes levied from regional governments. The United States healthcare system is broadly private, meaning there are employer-provided healthcare plans in America.
We explain how most Americans get healthcare coverage from employers, medicare or medicaid and how Obamacare made insurance more fair and provided increased coverage.
Danish healthcare has some pros like covering every individual when they need it and some cons like increased taxes, increased bureaucracy and inflexibility. We talk about some of our own experiences using the Danish healthcare system and what we like and dislike about it.
We discuss the pros and cons of the American healthcare system like being able to decide the amount of coverage and deductible that you want and the ability to pay less for a riskier healthcare plan. Then we discuss the negatives of the American healthcare system like the fact that not every American is covered, that catastrophic events can leave people with medical bankruptcy and the extreme hidden costs of healthcare coverage from American insurance companies.
We then tackle key misconceptions about both systems and offer correct answers to these questions:
Is all healthcare in Denmark free?
Are Americans unhappy with their healthcare system and healthcare coverage?
Do you wait a long time to see a doctor in Denmark?
Who pays more for healthcare cost, America or Denmark?
Finally we discuss our experiences of positive and negative healthcare outcomes in both Denmark and the United States. We talk about the healthcare culture in Denmark and how they shy away from medication.
CHAPTERS:
Intro - 0:00
Overview of Danish System - 0:21
Overview of American System - 1:16
Is all Healthcare Free in Denmark? - 4:18
Do Americans Hate Their Healthcare? - 5:12
Is There Private Healthcare in Denmark? - 7:00
Is American Healthcare Cheaper? - 7:58
Are Wait Times Worse in Denmark? - 9:30
Our Experiences in Both - 11:21
Final Thoughts - 14:23
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@LadyDoomsinger 2 года назад

All drugs, even over-the-counter medicine, but especially prescription drugs have potential side-effects and can adversely affect your health (your liver and kidneys, specifically). That is why "popping a pill" for every little sniffle is not advisable. That doesn't mean you shouldn't take medication when necessary, but in Denmark (generally speaking) pills are the "last resort" when other, less harmful or addictive options are ineffective.

@Gert-DK 2 года назад

Yeah. All drugs have side effects. If you can carry through without drugs, do it. And don't believe the commercials. BTW, I am on some drugs. I told my doctor that I would not eat a single mg more than necessary. He understood, and together we have found a dose that works for me, and it is way less than normal for the same illness. It can be done.

@ninirossau2304 2 года назад

and another problem is that you can build up resistance to drugs. they simply stop working. and then you end up in my situation. chronic pain and unable to use medicine.

@khellendros1979 2 года назад

not to mention, "walking it off" or "enduring it" will most likely help your immune system more than a pill will.

@Joy-tl1bk 2 года назад

We are vikings - we power trough 😅

@bzdtemp 2 года назад

A few details that needs correcting or elaborate on: - In general clinics including GP's are all private owned clinics, they just have a deal with the state(region) that pays them for treating patients. - Denmark we have aprox. 4 doctors per 1,000 people living here. In the US the number is 2.6 and that is not even accounting for the millions of illegal immigrants in the US. - If you want to change GP then information on choices are readily available, details like age, gender, number of staff at clinics and more is freely available. - As mentioned prescription medicine is not free, but it is subsidized on a sliding scale. You will never spend more than aprox $600 in a year. For the first $150 per year there is no help for adults, it is 60% for those under 18. Spend more and you like half covered and should you reach aprox $500 in a year the coverage is 85%. Should it get even worse then above the a cost of about $3,300 you will have 100% coverage. Ie. You will never pay more than total $600 or so out of those $3,300 since the rest is covered and need even more it is 100% covered. - With regards to medicine it is also worth nothing, that if you are given medicine as part of a treatment at a hospital that is fully covered. So not only no bills for being in hospital, there is also no bills for the medicine. - You don't need a referral from your GP to go see and eye doctor and that is also so for seeing a specialist about anything regarding you nose, ears and throat. Also two other important things. People in Denmark have sick days with full pay, so when sick people stay at home and get healthy with full pay. There is also coverage for the first sick day of a child. Finally. Going bankrupt over medical costs is not a thing.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Oh darn, we totally forgot sick days - we have mentioned it elsewhere but this would have been a good addition.

@sabinahertzum9728 2 года назад

One of the privately payed ( outside of work) companies is ‘sygesikringen Danmark’ - and one of the things the things they offer is kickbacks on medication, dental, glasses/lenses and other things where you pay out of pocket… only downside is you can only get in if your healthy or your parents put you in at 16 or younger!! I got sick at 23, and feel so bad that I didn’t enroll, but I got my son in at 16, because if he has any of my issues, I wanted him to have that extra security..

@anneuldahl 2 года назад

Spot on! Especially the paid sick days make a big difference.. You don't have to take drugs to get back to work as quick as possible, or to be well enough to work sick

@bzdtemp 2 года назад

@@pi2repsilon644 Getting insurance is wise, however I gotta say the name of the company and they way the us it in their adds has always made me cringe. With the insurance haven taken the name of our nation and adds with text asking question "Are you member of Denmark" to me that is just wrong and I imagine that for foreigners it even worse. That they on top of that run a system where they do not allow people in that have preexisting conditions, well that just means that literally not everyone can become a member onf Denmark - the insurance company. Frankly I am like the H.... They don't own Denmark any more than I and all other Danes, so they should not be allowed to use the name in a commercial manor.

@pi2repsilon644 2 года назад

@@bzdtemp Naturally, it does not allow people with preexisting conditions to enter at will, at whatever stage in their life. If it did, the mutual insurance would collapse, since its financial model is based on members joining up for the long haul, being net contributors for years with that money spent on helping those members who need it, and, in most cases, members will *never* ending up with enough refunded that it outweighs their membership contributions over the years. If everybody could wait until they would be net beneficiaries financially before joining, and could enter and leave at will. I guarantee you that many people would avail themselves of that option and destroy the association's finances, and the association itself, in short order. Not just people who wanted to deliberately function as parasites on the finances, but many ordinary good people, who whatever their age or state of health, would have no rush or reason to sign up until they needed it - and would feel like chumps if they did, since they'd be gaining the exact same benefits as those who only joined when they were, or were likely to become, a drain on the organisation. Since the entire purpose of the association is to benefit its members, that is never going to happen - and yes, that includes rejecting people for membership who, for whatever reasons of their own, however good those reasons were, and however sympathetic one might find their life story, were never enrolled by themselves or their parents while they were healthy and thus did not spend years contributing until they needed assistance, as well as rejecting those who were never healthy in the first place. It is not a charity dedicated to helping those in need, funded altruists - it is member-owned and funded health insurance. For health insurance, "everybody can join" only makes sense when it is backed by the finances of the state.

@wncjan 2 года назад

Good video with fair comparisons. I prefer the Danish system though. In 2019 I underwent an EVAR surgery. Check on Friday, surgery Monday and home on Tuesday. For the rest of my life I have to be checked once a year. This is financed through taxes and will not cost me anything except from that. In 2021 my dad was hospitalized for three months before passing away, all tax paid. In 2013 my daughter was taken to an ER in San Francisco, while we were on vacation. She had a C/T scan, spoke with a doctor and a nurse for about 15 minutes and we were 'released' in about two hours. For that the prize was $10,000+ (paid by travel insurance though). The medication she was given was $220 for 8 tablets, that cost less than $10 for 12 tablets in Denmark

@JHEntertainment98 2 года назад

Who wouldn’t prefer the Danish healthcare system except right wing idiots in the United States. Our healthcare system is garbage.

@axelfoly66 2 года назад

About the wait here in Denmark - there may be long wait in the public system for non urgent treatments with specialists BUT in most cases we have something called "behandlingsgaranti" (guarantee of treatment) - where if you have to wait more than 1 month to see a specialist in the public system - the public healthcare will pay for you to go to a privatised specialist or a privatised hospital to get your treatment instead of waiting too long for treatment at a public hospital (so you don't have to pay yourself for the privatised specialist like you normally would have to if you just went straight to them in the first place) - Thats is a really good thing about the danish health care system and I think that is a really important thing to include :)

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Oh wow, something else I wish I knew a little while back when I was in that situation 😃🇩🇰

@bazzakrak 2 года назад

It should be @@RobeTrotting (and dont know how long ago it was you had to see a specialist) if the treatment is something that falls under behandlingsgarantien, I believe it is only if you are refered to a hospital, that you will with your referel get a list showing you the waittime for all the other hospitals in Denmark, so you can choose one of those instead, or if it is above the 30 day limit it will tell you that you can choose a private place to go to instead.

@Litvan 2 года назад

You do have to take into consideration that the "behandlings-garanti" has been partially or fully suspended during covid though.. it's only recently that it's been back into effect.

@linekristiansen7200 2 года назад

I saw some intervews with americans about healthcare and they all said this "why should I pay with MY taxes for someone elses treatment" that mentality is what will burry the states.. a me me me mentality doesnt work, here in denmark I am so happy we have a more united mentality when it comes to healthcare.

@Ormathon 2 года назад

Funniest shit is, they are technically paying more in fee's each year for their insurance then they would have if they payed it through their taxes. And everyone could get healthcare and ESPECIALLY cheap medicine. No control on medicine = Prices can be whatever the companies want. Just look at how much insulin costs, in the US it can bankrupt you to be a diabetic. Since a tax covers EVERYONE it does not affect everyone that much, its a few coins from everyone. Instead of a chunk from your bank account each month.

@linekristiansen7200 2 года назад

@@Ormathon right?! It would only benefit the entire country! The portion of my taxes that goes to healthcare my entire life, might only cover a surgery and 5 month stay at a hospital in the US, the average cost pr Capita in denmark is 32.000kr (5000$) if we we say I live to 80 the total cost for my entire life, from birth to death, is 2.5million kr (406.000$), but we dont pay taxes before we have a job so the time and cost for me is much lower! I am so greatful to live here!

@Ormathon 2 года назад

@@linekristiansen7200 Another reason everything is so expensive is because so many people are in debt, so pretty much everyone that is actually paying is getting double the bill to cover the people in debt :'D

@linekristiansen7200 2 года назад

@@Ormathon it’s just an evil spiral :(

@SuperTweezy5 2 года назад

I think when people say "why should I pay with MY taxes for someone elses treatment" really means they don't want to pay for illegal immigrants' medical, because they're being rewarded for breaking the law to come here.

@Bronzescorpion 2 года назад

One reason to be cautious with medication, especially antibiotics is the arms race we have with the patogene bacteria. We risk running out, because every time we use antibiotics, there is a risk that the bacteria develop resistance towards it and this resistance can spread quickly to other bacteria, thus rendering the antibiotics useless. We have to develop new ones to be ahead in the arms race and reducing the speed of resistance building up in the bacteria is a very good place to start.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Very true - they give them to every kid in the US basically to shut up the parent haha.

@fioxwithoutx 2 года назад

Yea you wouldn't want to treat a symptom to maybe get a new one (and potentially worse one). Drugs should only be used when they outweigh the potential risks.

@Be-Es---___ 2 года назад

Well said.

@muhest 2 года назад

The “walk-it-off”-approach is perhaps also a benefit of the danish system, of not making profit out of it. A lot of pharmaceutical companies could be “donating” to a GPs clinic, in return for that GP to peddle their medicinal products. That incentive is sort of removed, when the GP isn’t in it to make a profit directly from the patient.

@1stCainite 2 года назад

It also helps that our pharmacies are required to offer the cheaper generic equivalent if a doctor prescribes a higher priced medicine.

@FUBBA 2 года назад

adhd "medicine" moment

@MsJakobsen 2 года назад

Interesting 👌 you do choose your gen. practitioner yourself i Denmark. When you move to a different muncipality and register your new address, you get access to a list of doctors to choose between (unless you live in a part of the country where there is a scarcety of doctors). You can also change doctors which is free in the month of October otherwiese it costs 180 dkr (the price of a new "yellow card"

@kirstenfrostholm8063 2 года назад

I think the "walk it off" mentality is mostly some kind of cultural subconscious thoughtfulness 1) We know that the climate in Denmark sucks so we probably all get a cold, sore throat or flu every year...so that's just part of life and you don't need a doctor unless it's worse than that. 2) We know that the healthcare system will be there if we need it so if it is not necessary for you right away we don't call a doctor because other people may need the resources more then youself do at that moment. 3) if it is not serious sickness the body are often better at fighting it at it's own 4) we have a saying "don't fights small birds with cannons" meaning "don't make a big deal about something that a day in bed can fix" 😉

@MortenPeterHaghJensen 2 года назад

Some years ago I watched a documentary-sort-of-thing about the US Health Care system where an American woman was battling cancer, and while she had that fight hospital bills just kept pouring in and the family were on the brink of loosing the house. As a Dane, it is completely insane why Americans is okay with a healthcare system that works in this way.

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

Seems like a propaganda piece-this is rare

@andrewmattox1233 2 года назад

The US already has "free health care" for the poor. Many in the US, live beyond their means. If she was on the brink of losing their house, they were probably living pay check to pay check, by living beyond those means. ^This is common in the US. 70% - of Americans live paycheck to paycheck. -Most of these people make enough money to not live paycheck to paycheck.

@MortenPeterHaghJensen 2 года назад

@@andrewmattox1233 Fair enough that the poor have access to "free health care", but do they have access to the best possible health care? In Denmark, even the poorest of the poorest will have access to the exact same universal health care as the richest of the richest. You can call it socialism - I call it basic human rights.

@SMFrost 2 года назад

This reminds me that the whole premise of the series 'Breaking bad' would not work in Denmark... "Walter White got cancer and went to get treated at the hospital. The End."

@andrewmattox1233 2 года назад

@@MortenPeterHaghJensen, If the free health care, isn't the best, then why would everyone want it? If everyone gets the same healthcare, then everyone gets the best and the worst. How many research hospitals does Denmark have?

@lameduck3105 2 года назад

Medicine costs are regulated every 14 days in Denmark to ensure medical companies stay competitive on the costs of it and your GP will generally favor prescribing that certain type of medicine that has offered the lowest cost for those 14 days periods. So there is less of an incentive for medical companies to "bribe" doctors to prescribe a certain type of meds here in DK. Pharmacies are required by law to advice you on the possibility of a cheaper type of medicine if there is one, for whatever type of meds you've been prescribed.

@sjokomelk 2 года назад

I don't know if I read it in your comments or somewhere else, but regarding the Nyquill debate - In the US I guess you don't have enough sick days, so you do what ever you can to get well quickly, or just to a state where you would be able to go to work the next day even if not feeling fine. But in Scandinavia (Norwegian myself) the employer does not want you to come in sick, as you could infect your coworkers, and they would you rather stay at home for 1-3 days and heal completely before coming back. And you are of course still being paid 100%.

@shirleylechner8230 2 года назад

When you are feeling achy and congested, OTC Nyquil helps relieve cold and flu symptoms so you can get the rest you need. (No doctor needed). I have always had ample sick days (paid at full salary). My employers (in the U.S.) preferred that employees take time off and come back to work when they are well and can perform their work duties properly.

@oOPPHOo 2 года назад

The reason why healthcare expenses are cheaper here isn't just about the lack of a monetary incentive. There's still a monetary incentive. It's just if you're for example a private company that manufactures wheelchairs, you can't really divide the Danish market up between you and your competition in the field. You and your competition largely have one big contract to compete for and it's an all or nothing situation. If you can't offer the state the best wheelchairs for the lowest amount of money, you're practically not gonna sell any wheelchairs in Denmark. It's much harder to negotiate with a unified single payer system than it is to negotiate with for example individuals in desperate need of a wheel chair. It's all about making capitalism work on behalf of the people rather than on behalf of just itself. Price is determined by supply and demand and a single payer system has tight control over demand compared to the US where numerous private providers have tight control over supply.

@klapstol 2 года назад

Well, I'm sick (just a cold), and I'm sitting here in my home in Denmark and I did not even consider going to the doctor because she is just going to tell me to go home and sleep and drink tea and wait until it is over, and I think it's a good approach despite feeling sick. Most of us in Denmark stay home in we are sick and it is considered rude to go to work and most of us are getting paid sickdays.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

The sick days issue is a big one that I wish we mentioned - we may need a part 2 to discuss some of these really great points coming up in the comments. Thanks Sebastian and get well soon 🤒

@helenaemmarasmussen1073 2 года назад

Everytime I watch your videos I get so impressed by how much you have researched on the topic! 👍

@ninapjust7165 2 года назад

There is the insurance company "Danmark" where I think there is three different member plans with obvious different cost depending on the level of insurance and they cover a fixed prize on everything from a therapist, dentist, glasses, chiropractor, acupuncture ect. The time I realised, I really thought the American system was out of this world, was when I was told you have to pay for an ambulance ride. So the potential of saving somebody's life by calling them an ambulance can have servere debt effects afterwards. Mind-boggling.

@Bojan_V 2 года назад

Paying for an ambulance ride is ridiculous! In Slovenia we don't have to worry about that.

@WolfieSilveira 2 года назад

Not to mention the cost of giving birth in America, like they even charge extra if you want to HOLD YOUR OWN BABY like what in the world?!

@ninapjust7165 2 года назад

@@WolfieSilveira so I was today years old when I really learned that the United States is broken. Oh I have had a horrified notion of how expensive child birth could be. But the charge of holding your own baby can not be a real thing. There cannot in any world regardless of greed be any one who had the audacity to make the suggestion of charging to hold your own baby. And there cannot in this world or any other world be anyone who would find this acceptable. What and I cannot stress this enough the fuck is going on…

@duckmcduck007 2 года назад

I definitely understand the sentiment of "if there's a pill for that, why not take it", especially if there were things I had planned, and really wanted to do, and suddenly I feel awful. But in my later years, I have really come to appreciate my body, co-workers and bosses for telling me to take it easy when I feel sick. Obeying the call to sleep and do nothing (though sometimes boring), I feel does me good in so many ways more than just taking care of the illness. I have stopped complaining about it like I used to, and since acknowledging that my body wants me to rest, and giving in to it, that in itself gives me pain relief to the point where being sick is almost enjoyable in its own weird way, and I no longer desire that pill, I used to long for that would make it all go away. Instead I sleep, and dream of all the wonderful things I look forward to doing when I am again able.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Hej Jakob, thanks for watching and the comment - very wise words. I think you’re spot on and touched on an important factor that we left out - in Denmark you have paid sick days available in a way that American workers do not. It may be the source of why we try to treat our own sicknesses at home.

@mememe733 Год назад

@@RobeTrotting indeed wise words. It made me think about how for instance stress and depression are known to weaken our immune system, and if that’s the case, taking pills so that you can continue going to work and be active/busy is rather counterproductive for your health. Perhaps we simply have to be better at recognizing the signals our body and psyche are sending us when it needs a break and reset. Of course that doesn’t matter if you are not in a position where you can take that time to rest and heal.

@m1ndf8ke 2 года назад

Some clarifications on the danish part. You choose your GP when you move to the municipality. Some GPs maybe be unable to take in new patients, but besides that it's up to you. The fee for changing CP within the same municipality is very small and the proces is quick. There's also free choice of hospital. This means you are free to choose another public hospital (which ofters the treatment, care etc. you need) and as such reduce the wait time in exchange for a bit of travel. Your GP or the hospital can see the current wait-times for all the treatments nationwide online - use this, really. If you think the wait-time is to long, as if them to check other hospitals, the difference can be huge. Finally, some treatments have a "wait-time guarentee" which mean, if the public option can not provide what is needed within the period specified in the guarentee, the state will pay for you to have it done at a private hospital.

@BenjaminVestergaard 2 года назад

GP's in Denmark is most often actually private businesses. But they work on a contract with the public system, all gets the same amount of money per consultation and per patient assigned to them. There are some public run GP clinics, mostly in rural areas where the population density gets so low that it's difficult to survive as an independent clinic. About the price of prescription drugs, there's a ceiling of how much you can get to pay in a year. I think it was 1200kr in a year last I checked. About the thing about changing your GP, it's actually not necessary to change, you have the right to a second opinion, so if you're not satisfied with your own GP's diagnosis, you can actually just contact another, as long as you've been to your own GP first. But it may be a good idea to warn either your own doctor, or the one you want a second opinion from first... Because even though vaccine history and prescriptions are central, it's not all of your journal that's kept centrally, but there are standards on how to exchange digital journals. And about waiting times, about my own GP clinic, if I try to book online, it can easily be 1-2 weeks wait, but if I call early in the morning they have an "emergency service" where I can most often get booked same day. If I call a little later, they can most often find time the day after. But I have to give you that the specialists can have very long waiting lists, my son had a rash of some kind, and the waiting time was like 2 months, by that time the rash was long gone, so just cancelled the booking. Anyway, had talked to the GP, so we knew it wasn't dangerous... But still.

@sabinahertzum9728 2 года назад

About the Max yearly pay for prescription medication - it’s 4270 kr ( $680) but that’s ONLY for most prescriptions… Even if my doctor prescribes me to take something there are things that are not covered under that… Like melatonin for example…. I have prescriptions for melatonin, vitamin D, multi vitamin and iron supplements - I need to take those to stay healthy - but none of these are covered!! So I need to pay for those out of pocket - which for me adds on 1820 for melatonin - 1140 for iron - 700 for vitamin D - and another 950 for multivitamin… So that adds on another 4600 a year on top of the around 4000 I pay for my prescriptions that are covered…. Don’t get me wrong!! I’m pretty happy with living in Denmark under the system we have - but I still remember what it was like before the sliding scale was rolled out, and those first 2-3 months after it starts over each year can be brutal for someone like me…. I remember the first medication I had to pick up after the new system was put in place - I had to pay 2000 kr that first day!!! As a single mom training to be a hairstylist - I didn’t have that kind of money!!! Luckily I contacted my doctor at the hospital that were treating my ulcerative colitis at the time, and they could give me a bunch of that medication to use, so I could buy smaller quantities over the next months so it didn’t break the bank!!

@BenjaminVestergaard 2 года назад

@@sabinahertzum9728 ah okay, then that number has really gone up then. Or perhaps kids have a different number idk. And yes, it only covers prescription-only products. If it's vitamins or other over-the-counter stuff, like regular painkillers, it doesn't count.

@JohnnieHougaardNielsen 2 года назад

One difference is that the US system have encouraged lax prescriptions of max strength painkillers leading to lots of opiate overdoses and "unneeded" deaths due to people getting severely addicted. I find it much better that the doctor does not just give people what the ads have persuaded them that they "need".

@sheilanixon4479 2 года назад

In Britain drugs like Parecetemol can be bought at a local pharmacy (16 tablets at the most ) but a Pharmacist will only sell them to you if he/she knows you ,and that you are sensible to use the tablets as instructed by a Doctor.

@Duspende 2 года назад

Just want to say; Polling Americans on whether or not they are satisfied with their healthcare is begging the question. If you gave every American the kind of healthcare system we have in Denmark, and you waited, say, 10-20 years, and then polled them on whether or not they'd want to go back to the old system, you would probably see a large majority being disinterested in that.

@nielsen145 2 года назад

well the americans did have almost the same kind of medical system in place, before an insurrence agent in late 40s, got the idea of making an insurrance out it, where it was not needed at all at the time and soon all followed suit, why, because their was money to be made and from there, slowly went into for profits instead. most famous orgnization is the blue cross non profit runned hospitals, i dont know if they still runs them, but 40s and earlier they ran them, where every american could get free healthcare or almost free healthcare, it was depended on your income.

@MrFtoudalk 2 года назад

I think the fundamental difference is healthcare in USA is a for profit profession as you mentioned (unless you're a nurse, in which case it's considered a 'calling', so you can't get paid too much), whereas in Denmark healthcare is a service provided so the population can remain healthy and productive. Well, essential healthcare that is. Most elective services are not free of charge, because the state won't cover those. But that's the same in USA, Medicare and Obamacare will cover the essential health benefits. For elective services, you can have private insurance, that will be capped over a year or lifetime.. Anyway, great video as always!

@sabinahertzum9728 2 года назад

Ohhh I missed the ‘thank god you’re here!!! ;)

@ClareBearCB 2 года назад

I was a nurse in the UK before moving to Denmark. I never understood the need to take pills for symptoms.. if you are in pain or have swelling etc sure, but if you have a minor fever, uts the body's way of fighting so taking medication to lower it makes it take longer to get better, honey is proven to be more effective than cough syrup, without the side effects, so take that instead. I've not had a problem with wait times (I'm not in Copenhagen though) longest wait for us was 1 week to get my son into the eye doctor and 1 week for the ear doctor, and 2.5 weeks for the gynecologist (none emergency) I can usually call my gp if we need to see him and they will ask if I can get there in half hour

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Yeah, they always try to use wait times as a scare tactic to keep healthcare private in the United States but it’s really just to scare people. We do just think treating symptoms is fine in many cases - like taking an anti-diarrhetic for example. I’m not sure cough medicines have serious side effects that would keep me from taking them either - but that’s just how we grew up.

@dyseskytten1 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting You can buy anti-diarrthetic at every Pharmacy without a prescription. As for cough medicine, you can get addicted to those.

@brucebro586 2 года назад

Great job explaining the differences guys. Tak og venlig hilsen!

@dolhaylevente4168 2 года назад

Thank you for the video! I moved half a year ago to Denmark to study. I also have asthma therefore I asked for an appointment for a check up and got an appointment in a week. I guess the waiting time also depends on the region.

@jrgenhald3520 2 года назад

The best remedy for colds is a rum toddy made with Stroh Rum 80%. You have to drink 1 toddy every 15 minutes and after 3 to 4 hours you've forgotten all about having a cold.

@zymelin21 3 месяца назад

nailed it!!

@joanssparetime4752 2 года назад

You can change your gp in DK without paying a fee. You just have to make known that you don't trust your gp anymore. A's for the meds : take a Tea with lots of rum, that will knock you out too 😉😀

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Didn’t know you can just complain! That’s good to know. And NyQuil is basically just fancy whiskey in pill form so it has the same effect 😝

@Donnah1979 2 года назад

If you are moving, it's free to change GP. (Check if the wanted GP takes in new patients first.) No need to complain.

@LasseLuttermannPoulsen 2 года назад

@@Donnah1979 paying 205dkk (~$30) for changing GP is properly cheaper than moving.

@sarah4hp 2 года назад

@@Donnah1979 Well, I don't know that I would go through the expensive process of moving just to be able to change my doctor free of charge, so... while that is certainly a great thing if you are moving anyway for other reasons it is hardly a practical solution in most cases.

@Be-Es---___ 2 года назад

So, maybe the Danes are training their immune system a bit better by not swallowing pils for every cold. Relying on their body instead of pills.

@weeardguy 2 года назад

Though the Netherlands is probably doing slightly less good, we have the same attitude (hell, I think half of Europe takes the same approach). Take pills when someone really benefits from them, don't just give 'm to anyone who wants them. But the many commercials about all kinds of over-the-counter stuff are a real pain. So many people seem to have completely forgot their classes of biology in middle school and believe all that stuff actually works. Don't get me wrong, I've taken some Otrivin as well once (when my nose was severely blocked for 1,5 weeks or so and sleeping started to become a problem) but my mom was VERY reluctant on me using it and said I could only use it a few days in a row. I only take medication for hayfever, otherwise I can hardly breathe or look through my eye-lids at all ;)

@hansen0000 2 года назад

Hey Mike and Derek :-) Another amazing video from you guys, 😃when you say private insurance through your work, i think you mean through your pension company, which you can use for 5 years after you are jobless, my benefits are free chiropractor, physiotherapy, psychologist, all up to 7 treatments pr year, quick diagnosis from a private hospital, help from a social worker/nurse, if you are sick during long time, a one time money amount (100.000 kr) if you get serious ill or early retirement and a high life insurance, but no dental care in my case, but there is Sygeforsikringen Danmark, (private insurance) which also helps with dental and if you need glasses. But really good video guys😃And if you need a ophthalmologist, they are the worst, it can take months to get an appointment.

@Noblemand 2 года назад

Side effcts from having a cold is good. It makes you feel that you are alive(Even though you may not wish that feeling). It isnt untill you do not feel anything that is worrieng, because that means you are most likely dead, and we will, mostly, all stay alive as long as possible ;-)

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

😂 that is definitely one way to look at it haha

@christinar6227 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting And most ofen the body are working to heal you. The body is giving you a fever to make you well again. If you take painkillers you are reducing the fever and the bodys natual way to heal. It is also harder to diagnose and make sure that it is not progressing to more serius condision. By the way, the doctors makes sure that you are getting better, and you will get medicin if its more long term problem.

@heidio1260 2 года назад

My former doctor said: It takes 3 days to get over a cold if you don’t treat it. If you treat it, it will take 5 😂😂

@janmortensen9314 2 года назад

Besides the sideeffects; another reason for the stingent handout of pills is also to avoid groving super bacterias/virus that are immune to the drugs that we have today. There are already examples of this in USA. There they have to keep some drugs out of normal usage so there are something effective when it is really needed

@shirleylechner8230 2 года назад

I assume you are referring to the overuse of antibiotics. Physicians have been taking a more conservative approach when it comes to prescribing antibiotics,

@sasusakufangirl 2 года назад

This was a good and easy to understand comparison that I didn't know I needed. Also, I'm watching this while being sick and my approach was just naturally the "walk-it-off" that you describe XD Except mine was more focused on lots of fluid and sleep as well as airing out the room while wearing thick clothes.

@avejst 2 года назад

Great walkthrough of the difference of healthcare

@owia1 2 года назад

You may have mentioned it and I didn’t hear it, but I’d like to add that if you go to your GP and they give you a “henvisning” (send you to a specialist) as a chiropractor or something Else, you only have to pay about 2/3 of the bill than if you went directly by yourself. Hope it makes sense 😂 Ps. You are a great couple, I enjoy watching you interact.

@saranissen6210 2 года назад

Another nice video with good views on both sides/systems. I had the impresion that if your private healthcare in the US didn't cover what you needed or for some reason you didn't have healthcare insurance it could be really expensive.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Oh no, it is still VERY expensive if you don’t have insurance.

@saranissen6210 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting yeah I got that, when you talked about it being normal for people to come together and do a fundraiser for people Who might no be able to affort ex a (special) operation for their kids.

@thesteelrodent1796 Год назад

11:50 "Everything is on an app." Yes, now it is. Fully aware you've only been in Denmark for five-ish years, but healthcare and government services in Denmark only just went fully digital in 2016 and the integrated system behind the app took a couple years to implement and get working. It was only just fully deployed across all hospitals and treatment centres in 2019. Copenhagen was however the first place to get the new system (as it's home to the national hospital, Rigshospitalet, which gets all the new toys first), which is likely why you haven't noticed how new this system is. Many GPs still have their own IT system that is more or less integrated into the national system, but before the new system was up and running it was limited how much of this information was easily available to citizens and even how easily available things like test results were between different hospitals or clinics. I have had issues just a few years ago where I had blood tests done at Rigshospitalet, which my local hospital in the other end of Copenhagen couldn't see because they had yet to get the new system, so i had to get the tests redone there. The benefit of the new system and the app are massive, but it is a very, very new system. You also only have to pay a fee to change GP if you don't have a valid reason. Like if you feel you don't get the medicine you should have or the treatment you think you should be getting, those are not valid reasons as it's up to the GP to decide those things. Especially if you think there's something specifically wrong with you, you need to see a specialist about it anyway, and not your GP.

@RexPRogers 2 года назад

First time I have ever commented on a video. You definitely missed a major advantage to the Danish system, the 30-day guarantee of "service". In the US I was put on bed rest for about 4 months because of scheduling of a 15-20 minute surgery. Just recently I was told I could not see my doctor for more than 2 months for a wellness check-up, so I get to see a nurse in about 2 months. On the other hand, my son was in Demark at school. He needed minor surgery, not at all life-threatening. He got an appointment with his doctor within 2 weeks, got his surgical consult within 4 weeks after that, and had his surgery within 4 weeks after that. All to fit into the legal 30 days limit. I know the time frame was less than that, but at most it was 10 weeks. In the US the projected time was "several" months plus they would do a 'quicker' procedure that would have had him on bed rest for 6-8 weeks. In DK they did a surgery pioneered in the US that had him back in school in about 4 days. In the US it was all about time management, so he could be recuperating for 2 months... If I need to see a doctor in Denmark, the co-pay in Denmark is similar to the full payment in the US. Found that out a couple years ago when I trashed my knee.

@bethc7494 Месяц назад

What surgery did you need? I have lived in the US my entire life. I have never had to wait more than a few days (under a week) to be seen by my general practitioner. I have had a few surgeries in my life. Every time i was able to see the doctor, have any needed test like an MRI, CT scan, ultrasound, etc…, have surgery, and go back to doctor for a followup appointment ALL happening WITHIN a week’s time. I have never heard of anyone in the US having to wait months to see a GP or nurse, or having to spend weeks on bedrest before a surgery. Ever. So, I do have to question the validity of your claim. I am very happy with the heathcare system in the US. I love that i can walk into any pharmacy and get any supplement or vitamin i want for minimal cost and without a prescription. I love the speed with which i receive care - receiving all the care I need *within* a weeks time. I love the number of specialists we have here and the ease and speed of being seen by them. We have outstanding research and cutting edge technology. I feel very blessed to live in the USA.

@tineditmarunnerup9513 2 года назад

I love that you say "we in Denmark"!!

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

We 100% feel like Denmark is home but quite literally it's where our doctor is too haha

@larsrons7937 2 года назад

Great video, good comparison. When we Danes are more hesitant before we take medicine it can either be because we are not sure how healthy it is to fill our body with drugs, or that we may fear that the medicine might be less effective if we take it too often, so we would rather wait till it really counts.

@ppunion 2 года назад

This was a fairly balanced review of the healthcare systems. The only thing I would have added are the numbers of bankruptcies due to medical debt and people with no healthcare in the US.

@steffenhenriksen6530 2 года назад

I think the "get a pill for everything" has had the side effect of the opioid crisis in the US. The medicinal industry's hunt for money has created a pill (profit) for every illnesses. Just a thought🙂

@victimedelamode1 2 года назад

It has, the problem too has been that the pill has led to street drugs which are criminalized and unregulated, creating then a host of further problems. You're right on the nose with your thought.

@hejmuesli 2 года назад

Very nice segment. I was hoping you would have covered how you overall "feel" about the two systems. I would have thought that the subject of "peace of mind" would have come up - or that you would have addressed it. In Denmark you don't have the same worry of ending in crippling debt if you have an accident or find out you suffer from some illness, and I would have liked to hear how (or if) that has shifted your perspective on which "role" health care plays in your lives. :)

@saschao7966 2 года назад

As usual loved your well researched little introduction. I am a Dane living abroad and I kinda enjoy this "outsider" look at Denmark and Danes. I just wanted to add in regards to prescription medication that these are free for illnesses such as diabetes which will require constant medication.

@sandramatras8345 2 года назад

Diabetes medication isn't free. Cheap, but not free.

@sandreid87 2 года назад

A good point about medicin is that you work up an immunity to it, over time. Its the reason why you shouldn't take a pill every time you have a lil bit of a headache. You'd simply need to take more and more pills to reach the same effect. One day, you'll be in severe pain, and unable to minimize it, without something more powerful, like morphine. This is another reason why we have more of a "walk it off"-approach to medicine.

@amorawitchempath 2 года назад

Endnu et super show gutter, det hammer fedt. ( yet another super show guys, it is awesome )

@EMB238 2 года назад

Could it be that Americans who like their health insurance are healthy, middle-class, and employed in a stable job they like. All these elements (in the US ) can be destroyed by major illness/accident, job loss, or divorce. Agree: no American wants to imagine bad stuff happening!

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

No, thats not it. Most americans are more than fine, if not all.

@TheQeltar 2 года назад

@@jimmybaldbird3853 lmao

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

@@TheQeltar i see i triggered your inferiority complex

@TheQeltar 2 года назад

@@jimmybaldbird3853 Yes, I'm very jealous of the American public.

@jimmybaldbird3853 2 года назад

@@TheQeltar i know, i can feel it

@axelfoly66 2 года назад

12:40 it may theoretically be that way, but I have never heard of anyone who actually had an issue with that here in Denmark

@Gr8dane85 2 года назад

I can almost always get an appointment the same day.

@Gert-DK 2 года назад

My doctor is weird, he only takes appointments same day as you call. He changed to that system a couple of years ago. If it's a lengthy examen or things like that, you might have to wait a couple of days. But normal illness is only same day as you call.

@JonIllescas Год назад

Thank you for your interesting anlysis guys. In Spain, the National HealthCare (“Seguridad Social” in Spanish) is quite the same like in Denmark. I hope USA people can change the things and go towards a real public National Healthcare. Besides they will be able to pay for a private one like we do if they fanzy. But National Healthcare should be a human right and being guaranted for any government around the world. A big hug from Spain!!

@RobeTrotting Год назад

We agree 100% Jon. A lot has been done and the US is down to only 8% uninsured, but that is still 8% too many. Thanks so much for watching and big hugs right back to you! 😀

@andrewjensen8189 Год назад

I like your videos! Good conversational style makes it easy to listen to. Too bad there isn't a massive population of people interested in Denmark from the outside... Glass cieling

@Simpopcorn 2 года назад

Great video! Thank you for saying out loud, that the health Care system isnt free! So important because many really Think it is. 😃

@_-martin-_ 2 года назад

He has a Philly T-shirt on. This can only mean one thing! Authentic Philly Cheesesteak review coming up! YAY! :D

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Hahaha next time for sure

@jamesabber7891 2 года назад

A few years ago the rules were changed in the US, so hospitals had to disclose the deals they make with insurance companies. The insurance companies fought the new law hard in court, but lost. Now most hospitals comply with the new law, and what we can see from the data is not good: In many cases the fee to the hospital is lower if you just pay cash - compared to what you would have to pay with insurance after the insurance company paid their part.

@andreass1060 2 года назад

As a Dane i prefer the danish way at any time. 💪

@Svendskommentar 2 года назад

The more medicine we have to buy, the less we have to pay ourselves, in Denmark and at a point medicine will be free. It's based on a year, so at some point we start over, New Year medicine wise and will have to pay full price ourselves, until we start getting some payment help again. The receipt include these informations.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Ah wonderful, we never knew it was on the receipts! Thanks for this 😃🇩🇰

@Svendskommentar 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting My english is bad, so please tell me how the danish system of payment for medince is, in your words.

@notcompletelynormal 2 года назад

About the Nyquil/Dayquil: One of their main "ingredients" are dextromethorphan, which is technically a synthetic opioid. Taken in very large doses, it can get you high, in huge doses you can OD. There were a a few deaths some years ago and consequently medication with dextromethorphan can only be bought with a prescription.

@mikkeldresler9391 2 года назад

Never underestimate the purpose and results from modern medication - I totally agree with you guys!

@henrietteolsen2396 2 года назад

As a Dane who had lived for many years in the Netherlands I was astonished about the healthcare in Danmark once I moved back. Living on an isle in need for special treatment in a hospital in Copenhagen I got free travel and treatment including flights to get there and to get home again for many many times. I was taken with the Falck in the morning and delivered, :D , back again in the evening. Had no worries at all.

@annicaselberg3158 2 года назад

Something I have found to be very effective for colds is to take a sauna. It speed up the illness so one feel three double sick the day after but then it very quickly disappear. A private sauna or if you have one in the cellar to share in the house.

@arne.munther 2 года назад

Today I had to get an appointment to Ear-Nose-Throught specielist. The second one I called this morning could take me in today. (Living in Copenhagen, Denmark)

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

I need to do that too! I’m glad it was quick for you, it really isn’t what the right-wing American media want to make it.

@Galka_DK 2 года назад

In Denmark, if your GP give you a referral for a "Specialist" you are free to choose which one, Many just go witch the first on the list or the closest. And end up waiting for weeks, whereas if they checked 2-3 of them, they could get in, in a matter of days.

@JB-st8ul 2 года назад

I remember having food poisoning about 10 years ago, when i was just a kid and that was without a doubt the worst pain i've ever felt and I felt it constantly for days and compared to everyone else i had and still have a very high pain tolerance, but man do I stil wish I got something to deal with the pain back then.

@eidodk 2 года назад

People in the US that are satisfied with their healthcare system, are the ones who don't use it alot.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Precisely

@andrewmattox1233 2 года назад

That is true for all insurance though... Lol.

@Lorentari 2 года назад

The app is actually quite nice. You and your doctor can for example see what exactly (time-stamped) was done during a surgery years ago.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Which is brilliant and worth the investment

@hairyhornyhog 2 года назад

thanks guys great video :D how do you feel the quality of danish healthcare is ! asking as a dane ; really curious ;D

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

I guess we tried to stick to mostly facts without making it seem like an “America sucks” video - but we definitely think the Danish system is superior when it comes to efficiency, cost and the most important factor of covering everyone in the country.

@kimrnhof107 2 года назад

actually the general practitioners are NOT employed but the regions (or the state) They own their own clinics - and have a contract with the regions to provide healthcare to the patients that have chosen them. This means that it is the doctors that own the clinic, that decide how many and what nurses they want to employ - and what clinic facilities they want work in (They paid the nurses and the rent for the clinic). This makes the system much more streamlined.

@user-rq4ni1qh2g 6 месяцев назад

You could also consider that having a state funded system makes it worth while for the state to invest in education programmes to keep the population healthy eg healthy eating, anti smoking, mental health, regular exercise campaigns. It is far cheaper for government to do this than treat the illnesses that result from lack of simple self care. The byproduct being you have a healthier population, which is good for the economy of any country. Just discovered you guys and really enjoying binge watching your videos. I am a Brit, married to a Dane (who left Denmark 30 years ago) and in the process of looking to relocate with our 4 year old son to Copenhagen. So not not totally unfamiliar with the Danish way but will very much be foreigners regardless.

@RobeTrotting 6 месяцев назад

So true - even with a majority-private healthcare system in the US we do all of those things in education programs (even if they're mocked by some political circles). I guess the reasoning is the same, those who become ill eventually end up in a public system and it's cheaper to prevent this. So glad you found us :)

@erikengheim1106 2 года назад

Interesting to hear your perspectives. You seem to have a pretty balanced view. Danish systems sounds almost identical to the system here in Norway. I have lived in the US so I also feel I can compare. I think in the US there is definitely more eagerness to "do something" when you got a condition. Sometimes that felt great at other times, I realized this had a darker side. Like I noticed that in the US one is often not treating conditions at all but simply treating symptoms. E.g. the heavy use of pain killers for almost anything. I lived in the US about 20 years ago and remember thinking that the insane use of pain killers is going to get people in trouble eventually. Sadly the opioid crisis happened years later, sort of proving my suspicion about the heavy emphasis on drug use in the US. You also see that with anti-biotics. Not something you mentioned, but I suspect Denmark like Norway can use almost any anti-biotic developed the last decades because there is little antibiotic resistance in Nordic hospitals. That is down to far more restrictive use of antibiotics. I know this is something that foreigners really react negative to, but it is also what keep a much wider variety of antibiotics available for use. As for the "Viking" approach to being sick. I am not sure if that is about being Viking necessarily but rather a welfare system which allows sick people to stay home and recover when they are sick. Americans often don't have that luxury. They have to feel at their max at all time, because many Americans don't have the luxury to take sick days. I've seen e.g. in the Midwest how drug abuse starts because many have to push themselves through far to hard work days for far too many hours. I think in the Nordics we just allow people to be sick, and be a bit lazy in the couch in front of the TV until they recover. In the US it seems to be a lot more pressure to get back to work and show that you are a hard-working American. No doubt the American for-profit drug industry and heavy advertisement plays a role as well.

@annejeppesen160 2 года назад

It takes about 15 minutes to change doctor. The change takes a couple of days to go through the system and your new doctor gets the information. It takes a couple of weeks before your new yellow card arrives in the mail, the app is updated immediately. If you move you can choose a new doctor cost free. You are only assigned a doctor if you fail to choose one, but as it is part of the registration process when you move it rarely happens. Some procedures at the dentist is partly paid by the healthcare system and prices are regulated. If you get a referral from your GP, part of the fee for physiotherapy, therapy (shrink), chiropractor and feet therapy (can't remember the English name) is paid by the healthcare system.

@mememe733 Год назад

I just want to mention that all dental care is free for the first 21 years of your life. So there’s no children in Danmark with bad teeth due to poverty. You don’t need a referral for a chiropractor either, I’m not sure if you consider chiropractors specialists though. Also if you are a member of the insurance “danmark” before your children are born they are automatically covered (regardless of their health situation when born) without extra cost until they are 18 (unless you cancel your insurance policy of course) There are 4 options for coverage, the more you pay the better you are covered. You can choose to be a basic member though and only pay about 6 dollars a month for as long as you desire, you will have no coverage as a basic member, but you can later upgrade if you need it without having to be approved again. This is great especially for young people who can keep their insurance once they have to pay themselves. It’s also very helpful that if you in a period have financial problems, you don’t have to cancel your insurance, you can be a basic member until your situation are better and then upgrade again once you can afford it. However, you understandably have to stay with an upgrade for minimum 12 months before you can downgrade again.

@flemmingsondergaard223 2 года назад

Thank you for a fun an interesting video. As a Dane I prefer our health care system in around most matters because no Danish residents can risk to be in a situation where they cannot get needed treatment just because lack of money, but I have to admit that I sometimes envy you Americans for the typical American drugstore where you can by sleeping tablets without presciption like chocolate if you for some reason just need a sleeping tablet for a day-just like you can buy good effective medizin against a severe cold. In Denmark you always need a prescription from your doctor and sometimes they wont give you one if they estimate it is not good for you. You almost feel you have to convince them you do-where in the Amercian system you are free to jugde yourself if it is good for you or not. Of cause there is a risk of adiction but I should prefare to jugde myself and be able to buy someting like that freely if I choose it could help a single time.

@nadiaengelstrostved3913 2 года назад

I hear that some americans havde to leave thier house or die if the insurancecompany dont want to pay anymore. Its so sick that someone have to rely on a crowdfund to survive. That will never happend in Denmark. "Come on America - even Pokemon has free healthcare"

@hoodrichracing3901 Год назад

For me in the US, I can call my allergy and asthma specialist and get an appointment in 3 days. I can also call my chiropractor and get in today or no later than a day. I pay $180 per month for my healthcare through my work. Before I had healthcare I would use apps like goodrx to get huge discounts on prescriptions. I typically work out and stay healthy as well. When I visited the ER, I got a grant through the hospital to only pay 20 percent of the bill combined with my insurance so it was definitely manageable. Being resourceful in the US is a must.

@JunkerOnDrums 2 года назад

You must have penicillin on prescription in Denmark for a god reason - bacterial resistance, which create major problems. In Denmark you only have to pay for your medicine up to a certain level, then it will be either much cheaper or free, depending on income. You can buy additional health insurance e.g. "Sygesikringen Danmark". Doctors in Denmark are well payed, compared to the average income. You can always call a doctor on "Lægevagten" 24/7, and thus see a doctor immediately. Helped me severel times through my life :D And you mentioned the dubble cost of the US system - what a waste. That's not to say the Danish system can't aprove, but at least it offers universal heathcare, which is fundamental in a free democratic country. Freedom, equality and brotherhood creates good dynamism in a society. Med Grundtvigs ord: Vi har i rigdom drevet det vidt, når få har for meget, og færre for lidt - "Then in wealth we have driven it far, when few have to much, and fewer to little". Just my thoughts.

@Pallepop909 2 года назад

Worth mentioning that if you get refered to a chiropractor in Denmark by a doctor you can get the treatment for mostly half the cost of if you went there directly on your own. meaning you would end up paying about 45$ instead of 90-100$

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Wish i knew that a few years ago 😂

@Jasper0o0 2 года назад

Interesting. I was curious if the Danish healthcare system was similar to the Canadian, & for the most part it is.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Yes, our North American neighbors are doing well with healthcare too. (Eh?) 😂 🇨🇦

@Jasper0o0 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting Yes, but we do have some issues, such as wait times for non emergency cases. It’s funny, at election time our Liberals trash on the US system, & the US republicans usually trash on the Canadian system. Lol.

@Bojan_V 2 года назад

@@Jasper0o0 But still, the Canadian sistem is better.

@charpost62 2 года назад

I am fine with the wait knowing the serious is getting paid for. In 2002 my son was born 2 month premature, cesarean section and 6 weeks in the nicu = 0 money. In the US I would have been bankrupt. In 2012 i had brestcancer, 2 surgery's, 6 rounds of chemo and 15 rounds of radiation = 0 money In the US i would have died

@bengtandersson2649 2 года назад

Best of all you are in the system than sorry (usa) your Insurance is not valid at this hospital.

@henrikbuhl2135 2 года назад

What you are describing is what is called "Sygesikringsgruppe 1" (Public Healthcare group 1). Actually you have a choice between two different kinds of Public Healthcare since there is also a "Sygesikringsgruppe 2" (Public Healthcare group 2). If you choose the second group you are not connected to a specific GP but you can go to any doctor you want. You can also in general go to a specialist without being referred by your GP. The downside of being in the Public Healthcare group 2 is that you have to pay a fee when going to the doctor although the consultation is also (partly) subsidized. You can even buy an insurance (from Sygeforsikringen Danmark) that will help pay the fees. The choice between Public Healthcare group 1 and group 2 is entirely up to each citizen, but very few go for the second group - probably because they are happy with their GP, whom they see as the “family doctor”, and probably because there is a fee involved when being in group 2. However if you prefer something much closer to the system you know from the USA, this should solve your problem.

@ghc7400 2 года назад

I moved town and I could choose for myself which GP I wanted provided they were accepting new patients. But I had 15 different practices to choose from.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Yeah, always when you move and we didn’t know it but apparently in the month of October too 🤷🏻‍♂️

@winterchild6120 2 года назад

The reason I think that most Danish people prefer not to take medication if it isn't necessary, is that we in general are a lot more concerned about putting chemicals off any kind in our body. If you look up our standards for what qualifies as organic, or what we allow to be put in processed foods before 2000 you will see what I mean. Our standards are way above most of Europe, or at least they used to be

@stinealbrechtsen9650 2 года назад

During this whole covid mayham, how did you feel about the danish approach compared to what family and friends told you about their's in the US?

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Good question, and I think once it really seems like it’s finally over we will do a video looking back on both - Denmark’s testing approach was by far better and saved lives etc. America had a new government in the middle so that also means the approach changed… but overall Denmark didn’t politicized the response as much, which was also better. In the end some of the closures and restriction in Denmark probably went on way too long and weren’t making a lot of sense (ex: checking everyone’s Corona pass to get into a restaurant or bar, but then STILL forcing them to close down early… why do that if everyone inside is deemed safe to enter?).

@LiLBitsDK 2 года назад

have no issues getting an appointment... usually within a week... if it is urgent it is ALWAYS the same day in "akut tid" the non-urgent can obviously wait and if you need bloodsamples etc. then the nurse can take them a few days before the appointment, never been an issue. yes we are more viking about drugs, especially compared to the US wimps :-P if you have a cold (snotty nose) then you CAN get a nosespray that help and can be bought in most supermarkets at the registry and if you have a fever then Panodil will help with that (not remove it, but help) while you body fixes itself (aka you get and keep a healthy immune system instead of never training it because of constantly using drugs for even the most minor sniffle)

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Haha, we are wimps, but we don't get sick that often. When we do though, it's lemon tea with a side of Nyquil pills haha. We have a pretty good experience getting into our doctor when we need it and it's rarely an emergency. We also DO think that Americans go to the doctor wayyyyy too often for things that should just be treated at home. Kids always get sick - schools are basically a petri dish of germs, no need to rush to the doctor for every sniffle. We agree with you there 😀🇩🇰

@LiLBitsDK 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting oh yeah the youth petridish but that is what gives them a nice well working immune system for the rest of their life :D I don't get the ppl that constantly run to the doctor... most of the stuff just needs to go away on it's own, if you got the flu and stuff like that then go to bed and stay there, no reason to infect ppl at work or at the docs office... if it takes "too long" or get seriously WORSE then of course go to the doc, but we have ALL tried the flu... it can be rough... but we know it usually takes 3-5 days... we don't need the doc to tell us to go home and stay in bed until you have been fever free for 24 hours before you go back to work... it's common knowledge

@doltBmB 2 года назад

Typically, treating symptoms is making it harder for your body to heal. Symptoms are most often an effect of your immune response and not so much the disease itself. At least for the milder diseases.

@patmaurer8541 2 года назад

Dental and vision care and mental health are all ESSENTIAL to physical well-being and the ability to be a contributing member of society!

@timholstpetersen79 Год назад

One thing, that you also mention, that REALLY is different is our digital reality. We store almost all our information digitally and centrally and can access almost all information using out NemID (or MitID now). And our security in that regard _is_ second to none. Take Germany as a counter example: Almost everything is still done manually with signatures on physical paper. Here, almost everything is signed digitally. Banks Insurance Healtcare Schools etc. etc. etc.

@Real_MisterSir 2 года назад

Another hidden benefit of the Danish healthcare is that considering it is free to use by anyone of any wealth and life situation, people are much more likely to actually get checkups when they feel something is wrong outside the normal cold and headache, which means people in general are more likely to take informed decisions and prevent future issues, thus exponentially lowering medical costs over time because illnesses are more likely to be treated at an earlier state. You're never gonna have the thought of; "The doctor recommends I undergo this medical procedure, but my financial situation is not good so I will wait it out a year or two". Then after a year or two the situation develops and now you're forced into a hospital bed, with a bill you can't possibly afford. Compare this with people in the US who might not be in a position with a job-financed healthcare that covers basic checkups, let alone higher risk illnesses and potential surgeries etc that could financially cripple an entire family. Essentially, the system in the US works well, as long as you are in a decent situation with your life (as well as your family). But if the accident happens while you're not in a good position, then you're utterly destroyed, even for more basic medical needs since the for-profit approach spikes prices like crazy (in many cases 10x or more compared to prices of Danish medication).

@bjornh4664 Год назад

The healthcare system in Sweden is very similar to the Danish system. We may gripe about waiting times and high taxes, but when my wife (who moved from the US to Sweden six years ago) had a brain hemorrhage ten months ago, the intensive care cost us the equivalent of $10 a day - the actual cost was $8,000 a day. She was in intensive care for three weeks... If that had happened when she still lived in the US, I don't dare to think what could've happened - or with the extensive aftercare. While I'm fiscally conservative, this is one of the times when I feel that I have got more than my money's worth for the taxes I've paid.

@fantaziggy1322 2 года назад

Nice video! I think your comparisons are wary inseitfull and great for both culturs 👍

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Thank you so much! No where is perfect but we DO think it’s better to start by covering everyone and go from there.

@alexanderishere1857 2 года назад

It would be super interesting if you invited a Danish doctor in, and had a discussion about why they don't prescribe medicine nearly as often as in most other countries! We know they don't, but the interesting part is WHY?

@agffans5725 2 года назад

If you are unhappy with your private practice doctor in the area where you live in Denmark, you are free to find yourself another at your own choice, but at the cost of around $79 (mainly because you will need a new social security card, which obviously is not free of charge, unless you move to another area)

@birterasmussen8133 Год назад

Did anybody mention Sygeforsikringen Danmark? A lot of people in Denmark are members of that society. You can choose between 3 groups (1, 2 and 5), and they pay a portion of the price for dental treatment, some other areas and new glasses etc. and they also pay a portion of your medicine.

@eidodk 3 месяца назад

And alot aren't. Simply because you can't become member if you have a chronic condition. I'm born with a missing thyroid gland. That ends my chance of membership right there.

@annemarienordby4326 2 года назад

Letting your body heal it self will help it built a better defense against sickness:)

@elsebethlind1076 2 года назад

I have lived in the USA for many years still am Dansk the only thing I can not do here is not voting and not work for the federal government. I can work and vote for the locals! When I had to renew my new Alien card immigration send me a letter that stated that I did not have to drive to a city that is 1 1/2 hours away from her reason was that I am Danish and do not have a criminal record. The most people you see in the immigration are from the poor countries as Europeans do not migrate to the USA anymore.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Wow, super interesting how that works. They definitely find ways around things for certain groups of people haha

@stagger5863 8 месяцев назад

In Denmark everyone are covered if getting sick, that counts for visitors in Denmark as well *”free of charge”* in that manner you don’t have to pay out of pocket, we pay a high tax as Derek and Mike said, but that covers healthcare, education and much more, we don’t have *(hidden taxes)* we don’t have a minimum wage, but even the lower work skill force are so much better paid then the average American, because of our unions, we don’t choke in hectare depth, i know that personally because some year’s back i got a decease there rendered me unable to work, but don’t feel left out, got a early pension, got a hefty settlement from my union, don’t have to worry about not being able to afford simple things, so even though I’m not working I’ve have a safety net picking me up

@IncredibleJim 2 года назад

My Brazilian wife and American self are interested in moving to Denmark.

@olexxr8503 2 года назад

But what happens if you loose your job ?.. fundraising for a childs cancer, that stinks ..

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Yeah, it’s really sad - it’s such a relief just living in DK and knowing we are always covered. I’m America you can do all the right things and get screwed over majorly. Medical bankruptcy is the most common reason for bankruptcy.

@olexxr8503 2 года назад

@@RobeTrotting you are more than welcome, your both taking part in the danish way of life and you are both interested in blending in .. nice vids by the way .. I would like to meet you both some day to show my danish life ..

@Akinto710 2 года назад

To me, the biggest pro of free universal healthcare is that it promotes competition. I have private healthcare through work, so it both has to be better than free healthcare, and competitive on price. So for example i needed spinal surgery, but it had 4 months wait through public healthcare. I contact my private insurance and i get surgery 3 days later from one of the top surgeons in the country, a $15,000 operation. I get a private room overnight, steak dinner etc. All with as $0 deductible, $0 co-pay. All procedures with my private insurance is $0, i can never be charged. They also can't drop me, or raise the price. I pay $10 a month.

@RobeTrotting 2 года назад

Great point! The private coverage available through companies is better than anything in the states.