Fun fact: back in the day you could send off for demos of games off certain game websites EA promised to send me one but never did. Then sent me an apology package of a promotional jumper scarf set of Hogwarts badges and a full copy of the actual game just as an apology blew me away at 16
I think they missed a great opportunity to have a national league. Playing as the Chudley Cannons, Holyhead Harpies, or Wimbledon Wasps would've been such a fun bit of fan service. Bonus points that the tutorial stars Ginny and she goes on to play for the Harpies.
I remember making national Leagues for all European nations as a neurodivergent kid lol. Maybe I'll send the devs an E-mail with all the stuff I wrote.
It's really sad to see so many modern games abandoning local co-op/multiplayer. I understand the reasoning behind it, that it's not worth the money given how few people play locally nowadays. But there's really nothing quite like sitting shoulder to shoulder and play with another person or two.
Yeah it’s really annoying that local multiplayer is all but extinct. So many times my gf and I get excited about the announcement of a new coop game, only to discover that we can’t play it because it’s online only. I’m not about to buy a second PS5 just so that my gf can play with me from another room!
Loved the original but sad to see Ireland is still not a playable team! Which is especially strange seeing as they win the world cup in Goblet of Fire... Great video as always!
I know right. Such a weird omission, how has the best team been left out TWICE. There is no Bulgaria either. So the one World Cup match mentioned in detail can't be recreated. Hopefully they both get added.
So overall the games seem fairly similar bar the obvious graphical differences. Have to say, I appreciate the joke of having the Hagrid PS1 skin in champions.
The similarities are skin deep. And by the looks, less fun. Only gripe with World cup is that they locked AI difficulty behind hard to complete(or just tedious) unlock requirements. Champions doesn't feel like quidditch, doesn't play like quidditch and lack all flair that made world cup fun.
In my opinion, one of the most attractive elements of the Quidditch World Cup was seeing each world team with their uniforms, movements, and even the brooms were different for each team. In the new game, seeing all the world teams have the same uniform where only the color changes is quite boring. I feel that they should design each team's characteristic uniform in the same way. Also, the stadium should be used only for the final match, and each team should have its own stadium. This way, it would be more exciting to play the entire World Cup as a visitor or a local, and the final would feel more epic in the World Cup stadium, as we saw in the movie. Regarding gameplay, I feel that the Seeker should be able to go outside the limits of the stadium. It feels too strange to just go from one side of the field to the other until he catches the Snitch. I understand why they did this with the other players, but the Seeker should be able to go outside these limits to make it feel more epic.
Having countries be different is stereotypical and therefore offensive. Everyone must be the same, that's celebrating diversity. Except black people. Those always listen to rap music, even in medieval Japan.
on top of that they thought jamaica and uganda were very important teams but ireland and bulgary which are actually relevant in the books are nowhere to be seen lmao
@@kingsma98 i'm afraid they'll do something similar to tekken, making you pay for extra teams and some add-ons every season and that's how they'll compensate for the lack of microtransactions...
I remember playing the original on PC and finding that if you charged your throw long enough it would be to fast for anything in the game to catch the ball from you so I managed to steamroll to the world champion section and pretty much only playing as England and Australia because they had the best announcers. I met one of the artists for most of the early Harry Potter games a couple months back at a con and he was very happy that me and my friends remembered the games and liked his creature designs and then burst out laughing when we mentioned this game and the Australians, lovely guy.
The game was incredibly easy. Even as a kid I managed to max out the score meter in every match. Like I’m pretty sure I did some sort of exploit that allowed me to push the snitch over into their side (regarding the thing at the top) in order to keep letting me score goals lol
Doesn't matter how good the gameplay is. A multiplayer game where you're forced to play online only will always be inferior to those you can play with friends or family in the same room.
It seems minor, but the cool stadiums were the most vivid memories I had of the original. It was the main element I was looking forward to for the new one, and ended up being the deal-breaker, I didn't buy it.
Yeah, it's a shame they didn't include a remake of the old national stadiums. I would love to see the old Spain and Japan stadiums in Champions someday. But I wouldn't write the game off just because of that. They have plans to add more stadiums, and if you liked QWC back in the day, Champions is like the spiritual successor to it.
Totally agree. The stadiums and that music (I can't even remember if it was an actual piece of classical music they used or not). The atmosphere is so important.
You should include the GBA connectivity feature in the GameCube version of World Cup. It turns rhe game into a weird co-op where the GBA player does stuff as a beater and eventually the seeker.
I loved the original soooo much when I was a child. I always played it after coming home from school. The opening screen is actually why I'm into classical even to this day.
Having finished the video I'd say I really do like quidditch champions. Biggest gripes right now are: - needing internet 100% of the time - lack of team moves - lack of stadiums - want France and Bulgaria back Other than that I think they're doing alright and I have seen they are actively updating to get rid of any small bugs that may still be in the game, or small updates needed to ensure stuff works
Lack of stadiums was a big one for me. I was really disappointed to only see like 6 different pitches/stadiums. Team USA had my favorite pitch from the original game.
I was surprised about how well it plays, and how it feels like a nod to the old game. It also has that Philosopher's Stone flying vibe too. If they add more content along the way, this will be a solid game that could live for a good while.
I personally do think I prefer the old rules, because the world cup is all about CUMULATIVE points. Individual wins and losses didn't ultimately matter, true. But that's because there was a strategy to earning points in the overall standings. Like maybe you have to be at least 50 points up on the other team before catching the Snitch in order to guarantee your first place win. But I do have to admit that this ruleset makes for a more cohesive videogame. I do think it's really disappointing how much personality was stripped from the game, though. Especially for the World Cup. Team uniforms and designs are not as fun and only a single stadium is kinda lame. I can give a pass for the lack of team-based special moves for sake of game balance I suppose, but beyond that....
Points are the dumbest ruleset for quidditch leagues. Gryffindor could catch the snitch within 5 seconds in all their games and finish on 450 points after 3 games where as Slytherin could lose every game 1000-800 and win the cup on 2400 points... what ever two teams play last could let each other score until they're both first and second then play for real...
@@willnestor6422 ...That's the point. It prevents the teams from just catching the Snitch right away and winning with minimum points and having games last, like...a minute. Because you have to take your overall points into account. Gryffindor deserves to lose at that point because that's just bad strategy because you know that that is the MINIMUM score for a team that wins. We don't know all of the rules for these games either. There could absolutely be something that prevents teams from wasting time like that, like how boxers aren't allowed to clinch with each other too much. Even if there wasn't, the fans aren't going to be happy to see that, so that's going to blow up in both teams' faces as well as the faces of the World Cup committee. I really can't imagine there isn't some kind of massive penalty (like disqualification) for unsportsmanlike strategies like that
Yours is the content that the intersection between RU-vid and gaming was born for. James Rolfe recorded himself ranting about Simon's Quest in 2004, not knowing he was paving the way for games to be compared to one another by Flandrew. (But seriously though, one of my favorite aspects of video game history is the anachronism of comparing games built for vastly different hardware specifications 1:1. I'm so glad I found your channel back when I searched "Sorcerer's Stone PS1 PS2 comparison" years ago. 8:03 Inbreeding.
As seeker in quidditch champions it's purely about being close to the snitch the rings only grant full boost which though is great sometimes you have to do a pre-emptive turn so you don't collide with the walls barriers but I have managed to catch the snitch with only going through 1 or 2 hoops with the dodge bludger speed increase skill and the distance increase to build the meter. Great video and loved the comparison and some of the "emotions" shown from the quidditch world cup.
I'm proud of the developers for changing the rules to rebalance the snitch, seems like a good move to me. And the steam store page says there are NO microtransactions, very important these days! I might check this one out when it comes to the switch later on.
Yeah there's no microtransactions in the game yet, but I wouldn't put it past them to add them into the game later. It feels like it's set up for them. There's 3 currencies in the game, Moonstones, gold and Winged Keys. The Winged Keys feel like a 'premium' currency and even though you earn them in game and can't buy them with real money, it feels like you should be able to. Earning them in-game is few and far between. I've played about 100 matches so far and I've got 50 Winged Keys. You need 250 to unlock one legendary character.
As someone who would still play the old one up to today I have to say I think the new one is technically better and has a lot of charm but does miss some of the charm of the old ones. But being a modern game I know it will probably surpass the charm of the old one with a few updates/extra content
You know, 16 years ago when I gave my copy of the game to my best friend before they left the country, I didn't rhink I'd be finding it as an adult so much later on
Ahhh yes I remember the good old Quidditch days back when I was at Hogwarts. I was a Keeper and occasional Chaser. Had the opportunity to play against both Durmstrang and Beauxbatons. The Durmstrang team was overly aggressive, so long as you know how to maneuver the skies you're good, otherwise they will beat you down without hesitation. The Beauxbatons team was incredibly fast... that's why my role as Keeper was key against them, with help from well-aimed Bludgers. I still have my broom somewhere in the attic, might give it a ride sometime for nostalgia's sake (I'm too old for Quidditch now).
Quidditch Champions honestly seems like a natural evolution to Quidditch World Cup, both in terms of technology and gameplay mechanics. I do hope as time goes on they add more content possibly in the form of additional seasons.
Quidditch World Cup had a real gritty athletic essence to it, but Quidditch Champions is fresh and is actually really fun to play. They did really well for the kind of art and play style they used.
Wait, it's really interesting that they took inspiration from some of the irl quidditch rules. Making the snitch exactly 30 points and ending the match after a set timer. I wonder if we could use quadball's tactics in the videogame, but we'd need all chasers and beaters to be played by different people, and to be in a call to plan it. I'd love it.
Well, the game was initially designed as a 5v5 game with two chasers, a keeper, a beater and a seeker. 6v6 with the current team structure but all-players is supposed to come later this year.
I have to admit, playing quidditch world cup back when it was released and being from Australia, I have to admit I have a definite soft spot for the Australian team (especially their team special move). I haven't got champions yet (I'm holding off for the switch version), but I'll be looking forward to seeing the improvements it's made
I played Quidditch World Cup when I was a kid on GameCube. It was one of my favorite games. So seeing Quidditch Champions be released is amazing and I look forward to getting it.
I remember the first one fondly. It did get to the point that I never even had to worry about the snitch though as I was always about 150-200 points ahead by the time it came out but it was still fun.
I only have one vague as hell memory of the original game: Playing a few levels as Harry to beat Malfoy, finishing the "main plot", and being *so confused, almost disgusted* (for some reason) by the ability to play as completely obscure and random adults (to my autisic kid brain). Also I remember the colour trail for one of the national/adult teams being far less impressive to kid me than the simple red of Griffindor. I was obsessed with Harry Potter as a kid
Qudditch Champions is pretty barebones when you think about it but I will never understand the hate it receives. People are upset at the combos and finishers being gone but fail to realize that it would be impossible to have here. World Cup is focused on single player with you mainly controlling the Chaser, do people really want cutscenes every 10 seconds someone scores a goal? The only thing World Cup beats Champions at is the aesthetics. There 100% should have been stadiums based on each country at launch and we should have at least been given the chance to play as a team other than our created one. It makes 0 sense to go from the House Cup, Triwizard Cup, and then World Cup if most of your team looks like they're in High School. I really liked the idea of winning the House Cup for your preferred house and then getting to see them watch (you) a professional world cup team play. I also feel like there should have been ways to change your "Style". Aggressive, kind, etc would have been a great way to change how certain animations look to make you feel more unique. Not everyone wants to appear smiley and happy all the time.
Multiple teams and naming characters would be a cool addition. If they added that, it could help switch up gameplay a little. I'd probably build a Slytherin Team that specializes in aggressive skills and brooms and a balanced Gryffindor team. But national stadiums like the ones from QWC would be what makes this game a masterpiece.
This. This game was developed as a multiplayer game, it was marketed as a multiplayer game, yet so many people treat it as a "mediocre" singleplayer game with an "afterthought" multiplayer. No? Singleplayer is literally the afterthought here, it's so obviously made last minute by just adding bots to the existing multiplayer design. How ANYONE thinks this game is singleplayer-first is beyond me.
Yeah, the only issue with the new one is at least the original try to rely as much as possible to the original story of the books rather than the new one which key elements are missing like the Ireland national team and the Bulgarian national team from the world cup. Instead, we get some random countries that are never mentioned in books like Jamaica or China. I don't mind adding more countries to the mix it's deffinetly welcoming. Why do you have to remove the originals throughout? That I did not understand at all, and it was a bummer not seeing them there, especially cause in the original Bulgaria was uboockable only through an achievement which was something very cool at the time. Like you said , the national teams also had their unique olsying style, and they had their own unique design stadiums. Very dissapo8nted that in the new one that's not the case. Also, the lack of local play it's iind if a bummer. I mean, the online is great and all. But nothing beats having your friends over and playing it. If it weren't for this issues it could have been a very awesome game. Though because of this issues I have to say the original did it better. There is soace for improvement though.
Ah, quidditch world cup. I loved this game. I had the GBA version, so I always wondered what the PS2 one was like. Turns out it's pretty similar, just 3D.
While i do enjoy QC, after playing it for a few days i just wish they did a remake of QWC, i like playing chaser and seeker way more in QWC and the world cup teams were so much better with different pitches, broom, characters and special moves. Maybe this is my nostalgia speaking but what QC mostly did was make me want to play QWC again.
It's funny how the old game was limited by tech at the time and had no online MP, whereas the new one just phases out local MP instead. One thing the new game won't have over the old one is the classical orchestral blowout on startup. Sure it was an unrelated classical piece, but somehow it made it feel way more intense than it had any right to be as a simple sports game.
Great video, but should be fair to mention that on the two hardest dificulties, Keepers can block bludgers and seekers dodge bludgers better too as well as the snitches path becomes harder to follow and the ai becomes more aggressive with tackles, bludgers and bumping, But I agree, i love the option to either play the whole team or just the role/s you like and the npc's are competant enough that you don't feel handicapped by your chosen playstyle. Also new stadiums, teams, characters and cosmetics aswell as game modes will be realesed in the modern Seasons format that lots of games have adopted.
I only played with combo passes and shots in QWC I would get the snitch out with 2-3 goals, while using special moves and bludgers to keep the enemy seeker bar low. The best part were the team special moves, because you needed to complete some quests to get them. I remember Bulgaria, you had to catch the snitch but lose the game, like in the book.
I never played quidditch world cup but I remember it and it seems like it was really fun. I've played the new one and it's really fun. I can't wait until there add more features and pitches in the future
I was invited to be an early play tester and had to install this werid screen recording program to make sure i wasn't leaking footage of the game or anything like that. In the end, i just recorded everything on my phone. It has very simple gameplay, and isn't as cool as the original game back on gamecube. There's no violence or, knocking people off their broom, its most definitely targeted towards an "elementary school" audience. I was invited for another playtest on September 3, but will only be trying it out to see if anything has changed in terms of gameplay. There weren't any bugs as far as i was concerned.
the OG quidditch wold cup will always have a special place in my heart. But im probably never gonna play another quidditch game ever. the old game was just too good and lore acurate
So far I think all I want right now, is a ranked mode, team moves would be nice even if just for single player, and then FOR SURE MAPS. The each team having their own map was always my favorite. Japan and America were always my go to and so much fun.
i like that the snitch awards less points but i dont like that it doesnt end the game cause that actually was interesting as you werent allowed to catch it if you were too far behind
5:02 Exactly how I plan to grind out to Level 50 so I get all 50 skill points. I've just maxed out my Beater. My first aim every game is to knock out the Keeper 3 to 5 times in a match.
Yeah, I must admit. I like Quidditch World Cup better too, but it's nice to have tried out Champions and had fun with it as well. A tad bit complicated in getting used to, tho.
@@XavierXSimschampions is ok but what i don't like about it is that the snitch is only worth 30 points and not 150 at least with world cup quidditch was accurate to how it was presented in the books and movies which is why I like it more
@@Lion09887 Yeah the snitch point change and the game being 6 person teams instead of actual 7 is a tad odd, I get for "balancing" but still, could have kept it a bit more true to the game. I'm not a big fan of the controls, a bit too many inputs for my liking, I like the simple controls of world cup, but that's just be being old lol.
😐 yall bad at competitive games thats it and the thing about the 150 points is for balance, tgis is not a coop game or si gle player, catching the snitch a finish the game ONLINE yall would be butt hurt if your team lose on ranked 😂
Finally someone who actually likes the seeker change. Honestly the thing i hated about quidditch in the movies was catching the snitch wins the game... lol its such a lazy piece of writing to make harry seem more important. It makes the rest of the players absolutely pointless lol
And makes Krum look like an overhyped dumbass because he caught the snitch and ended the game when his team was so far down on points that Ireland won the match instead.
I grew up with the original on the GameCube. I'm not really a Harry Potter fan so I don't care about the new one but I got curious enough to check out this video on my recommendations
FWIW the Snitch was 150 points in World Cup, like the books. But even with that score, I found the Chaser portion of the game could easily go long enough for far more than fifteen goals to be scored, especially with the team special moves (which gave you multiple goals, and reduced the Snitch bar to boot).
When i first saw the trailer a remake off Quidditch world cup was the first thing to ender my mind. And can you do a comparison between the classic Scooby Doo trilogy??(night of 100 frights, Mystery mayhem and unmasked)
4:55 “Poor Oliver Wood, taking bludger after bludger and there’s nothing he can do about it.” There very much so is something he can do about it on harder difficulties lol. You have to either come from the side or catch ‘em while they’re distracted or they kick it away more than half the time from the cups I’ve played so far. 5:05 “I like to pretend Madame Hooch is just watching from the side saying ‘yep, that’s totally allowed!’” Because she pretty much is lol. There isn’t much that’s illegal in a game of quidditch as long as you’re using the tools provided by the game.
