@@eternalsummer8409 the actual developers are both pretty good so it was very much a publisher meddling and rushing that caused Outlaws to come out horribly. The worst thing to come about of this always online/live service games era, is the terrible mentality of “who cares if the release sucks we can fix it later.”
From personal experience after playing both, I was more invested in Cals story than Kays. Jedi survivor was not "perfect" but it was fun and engaging enough to play through to the end. Outlaws got boring pretty fast for me and made me wish I was playing a better stealth type game. I ended up refunding Outlaws and will most likely pick it up again when it is dirt cheap.
My thoughts on Outlaws: The game is definitely ubisoft in it's purest form which may turn off many. But some like myself don't mind it. I had more issue with the ST references here and there. But given it takes place after episode 5 and before episode 6 for a change is nice. I did not like the disney trilogy. But I guess I don't mind having only the planets from the ST but set before that era is alright. It's a decent compromise. That aside, the game is really fun. The wanted system and open nature of the game makes it very replayable for me. But what really won me over was Nix. That little guy is probably the best thing for me about this whole game.🤩😍 His little animations like hopping on your speeder when u get close and looking at you hoping to go for a ride is fricken adorable. Along with the way he plays dead when u ask him to distract a guard or point your gun at him and the little interactions u can have with him when eating meals. God hes so cute. Lol The story was alright. I didn't love it or dislike it. It was serviceable. But evreything around the story was so fun that I didn't mind. (Minus the instant fail stealth missions ovcourse..) The backlash the game is getting should be directed to ubisoft higher ups. Not the devs themselves. Clearly alot of love went into this game from what I can see. The game didn't deserve to be completely review bombed. If I'm going to be as honest as possible, I would give it a good 7/10. Anything below a 6 or 5 is not right. The game does far more correctly than it does wrong. And I feel an 7/10 reflects that very well. I only hope we get atleast one more planet in the dlc expansions coming up. And maybe a few QOL improvements and fixes to make it better as it Definitely needs that. Anyway, that's about it. Just felt that I needed to say something and be as fair and realistic as possible while not being blinded by hate. 🙂👍
I definitely like the gameplay and story for Jedi Survivor better but the locations and exploration aspect is better in Outlaws. Koboh serves well as a good planet to explore but Outlaws being centered around actual towns and settlements means there's lots more to look at and many more people to interact with. I don't necessarily want this in the Jedi games but it does make Jedi feel a bit more of a solitary experience as a consequence.
Wow just shows how unpopular SW: Outlaws is I didn't even know Darth Vader was in the game. 😂 I know so many people who love JFO and JS and I have replayed those games 3 times each they just so well written and the gameplay is great, graphics could be better though.
Meh, I enjoyed Outlaws. There's things I wish they did different; weapons / armour options, different speeders, a different starship... But the core concept of exploration and world building is great
I told myself to give outlaws a try after the patches and combat/stealth improvements thats coming in november, if it looks better. it just looks way too janky atm
It’s not janky at all for me 38 hours in. Especially the 40 fps mode. The gunplay is fun and the stealth good too. Especially as you progress and gain more skills.
@@User-w3f7j i played outlaws to story completion, minimal bugs beyond some visual glitches here or there Jedi survivor meanwhile was such a buggy mess i gave up 2 hours in after crash number 5 til its fixed
I personally prefer old places being relegated to cameos or places that we get different point of view of. New look at something familiar - so we still have a connection but even in this case Jedi Survivor feels as being better game simply by the fact that developers definitely tried to make a good game first. Also I find Kal being a decently made character - he has his low points but written in more believable manner as a character for space adventure.
It genuinely never occurred to me that we might have a level set inside the Former Jedi Temple on Coruscant in Jedi Survivor when I booted up the game and saw it on the main menu, but damn that would have been super cool.
I would like to see you do videos on the Batman Arkham and god of war games in the future please. I never played them and I think you have a great channel to review them on if you want
@@odrpy793 Movement and combat felt floaty, climbing segments were extremely easy and boring, story was predictable and the main character unlikable. Performance on PC was horrendous at launch and buggy.
first off i agreed but then im mad bc both are different they arent even close one is about a jedi making a name for himself trying to survive one is about a none force user outlaw trying to live and make money to survive one has stelth one doesent
I think you know that you missed a whole bunch. I think that the developers use the same person to create the animals in this game for example, in Jedi survivor, you have the mixed gorilla rhinoceros and in outlaws you have the extra large headed short neck, giraffe animal.. very creative both lol
Let me just point out that Outlaws is similar to the Jedi games and Battlefront which is why I managed to beat the game because I was experienced with those previous ones.
When the main character can use force, a lot of things can be easily justified .... They should have made that girl force sensitive but not trained to be a user.. At least things like her ridiculous stealth ability or her super punches are more acceptable
11:00 It would be difficult to set a canon level in the Jedi Temple during the Imperial era because, although we haven't actually seen it yet outside of the comics, it has canonically been converted into Palpatine's palace and home during his reign unlike in The Force Unleashed where it was simply left abandoned. It would have to be a purely stealth infiltration level, maybe the Star Wars version of Operation Valkyrie with a failed assassination attempt? Otherwise, unless they pulled something as badly written as Vader Immortal, we'd either have to be playing as an Imperial with access (Thrawn game anyone?) or it would have to end without us getting out alive. That said, I love Star Wars Infinities and would be down for a What If scenario.
As much as Nix is a babe I think as a "criminal" Kay should have had a cool and murderous droid assistant not a cutesy pet. It's a lost oppotunity to have something new. But they wanted to make money on toys for children too much I guess
...Her ship is called the Trailblazer? ...I can't even. Also, it's probably for the best Vader was just there for a paycheck in Outlaws. If he actually interacted with Kay, then she'd either be absolutely powerless (unacceptable for Disney) or make him look like an idiot (prove to the last diehard fans that the franchise is dead.)
Jedi Survivor on pc platform is bad but the gameplay still better than Outlaws, although i didn't play the game but seeing other youtuber gamaplay already enough for me to know it a half baked game.
Outlaw is basically a reskinned more boring game. I enjoy not playing as a jedi but they could have done soooooo much more with it. Seems like a really good idea but poorly executed
i think star wars outlaws completely sucks and is soulless but i have to say this feels like a pretty unfair comparsion. like trying to compare football and baseball both have running and balls but entirely different sports. Star wars jedi survivor is a dark soulsish game while Outlaws is something weird and entirely different but having similiar things but i still think it isnt a fair comparsion
I just "finished" Outlaws, really what happened is I was just playing the game organically and I got the "Are you sure you want to continue this is the last part of the game" warning. I was shocked, like "nah you don't really mean that", so I kept going. I was then completely on rails for a couple hours before it was over. I was truly shocked at how short the main quest line was (and it turns out, you don't even need that much progression to finish it easily on normal difficultly). I only had good faction on two syndicates and had unlocked maybe half the "abilities" people.
glad to see an analysis without all those political drama. The primary reason I didn't buy Outlaws is simply because the main character doesn't use a lightsaber, shooting a pistol feels incredibly boring in a universe filled with amazing technology and magic powers.
I really want to see a quality comparison between Space Marine 2 and sw outlaws You know... A game made with heart and compassion by fans for fans vs a mediocre soulless garbage made by people who haven't done anything good for more than half a decade and just helped in the murder of an already dying franchise... Edit: 2:49 is peak sw outlaws/ubisoft
They're totally different types of games how could you possibly compare them? I've played both. I enjoyed Outlaws. SM2 is good but you don't feel like you're living in the 40k universe. Does that make it a "bad" game? Absolutely not it's a blast. But there are definitely things I wish SM2 did in terms of immersion which it doesn't do.
I gave up on Fallen Order because it was more of a puzzle game than anything else. I'm still quite early on in Jedi Survivor and while it doesn't seem as puzzle heavy, it does make it quite difficult to work out where to go as the visual clues are often the same as regular environmental items. I've not played Outlaws and I confess I don't have plans to. Ubisoft games have reached the point where they just don't feel special, they feel like a skin thrown over something pre-existing. There was a hint of that in Odyssey which I probably looked past because I'm a sucker for Greek mythology.
@Animefan-uk8pw Its Star Wars theres aliens and all sorts of abominations and droids, gamers need to stop crying that they can't jerk it to a character. Some people just want regular ass characters not this constant Hollywood star or hentai shit all the time it gets tiring dawg.
I might be on the minority but, after managing to make it work for more than 10-30 minutes, i actually like Outlaws. I don't think it's really great but i enjoy the sabacc minigame (reminds me of poker in Watch Dogs because you can cheat too), Nix is fun, the dogfighting mechanics are fine, the shootouts are serviceable and Iim a sucker for Ubisoft's stealth (i miss splinter cell). The recreation of the worlds from Star Wars... yeah, it's ok, i mean, i don't consider myself a fan of Star Wars so i can't judge that aspect, i think they look fine. Overall, it might be a messy experience (including bugs) but i ended up enjoying it. HOWEVER, i wouldn't recommend it at full price (no even the standard edition). I would say wait for at least 25% if you're eager to try it out but didn't wanted to spend a lot of money for it, if not then at least 50%. Also, if you're on PC and like to have your games on Steam, the game comes out in November (21 i think), it might get a discount then.
Bruh, yall be really band wagoning.. Outlaws is fun to me.. Could it be better. Yes. Does it suck?? Nah.. I been doing this since colecovision. Played and beat the games that started these genres.
Unpopular opinion: Star Wars outlaws is a good game with flaws. People hate on Ubisoft and I don’t like them either, but the crime faction leveling and the open world es of the underworld under the empire’s rule is very cool.
The quality control with Star Wars is shocking. Outlaws and The Acolyte are real lows. Why shut LucasArts who made great games? George Lucas must be so sad at how his life's work has been trashed by Kathleen Kennedy. It's one of life's big mysteries that she's still in charge. Surely after the Galactic Starcruiser cost them a lot of money she should have been sacked.
Lucas was ecstatic that Kennedy was chosen, look it up. He never obsessed about Star Wars as much as the fans did. Remember, the prequels were all his ideas. Anyway, you can't blame one person for everything wrong you don't like, that's just scapegoating.
@@rouviews1864 granted Kathleen Kennedy did make the whole thing a lot worse. I mean didn't Disney threaten to fire her on the spot for the botched film The Last Jedi?
@@Faded.Visuals Under her tenure, Star Wars has made billions of dollars and released more movies and TV than ever. In what way is that making things worse? If Star Wars "fans" really hated the new stuff, then they wouldn't gobble it down like hungry baby birds. And do you have any sources that she was threatened to be fired? Sounds like baseless speculation.
Outlaws has one of the worst video game stories that I've ever paid attention to. However, I still like the game. Idk why stealth gets so much hate. I think the stealth sections are well designed with plenty of options on how to tackle them. It's no MGS V, but it's still good. I was also amazed at how well Outlaws ran on my PC. Jedi Survivor was playable with some tinkering, but Outlaws blew me away with how good it looked and ran.
You answered your own question. The stealth in outlaws is very rough compared to other stealth games like MGSV that did it great in it's open world design, in fact the recent open world ghost recon games (also by Ubisoft) did good as well in this department. These mentioned games also allow you to experiment with the stealth sections through an expansive unlockable arsenal and multiple approaches and paths in areas/sections to improve your score/grade in missions so there is an incentive for investing time there. And even games like the old Deus Ex + the Adam Jensen duology and The old splinter cell games didn't have that much varied arsenal and a very big open world structure like the above, their well crafted and complex levels and areas along with unlockable upgrades and abilities kinda made you want to further explore them and come up with better solutions to solve them. And it's not easy to get away with just average game design when your audience knows that it can be done better. The game isn't bad it's just Ubisoft can do better than this.
As for pc performance, you should be glad you didn't play it in pre-order early access period like my friend because that was a dumpster fire. Worse than jedi survivor.
@adnanasif9538 I still think the stealth was good. Also, the rythym lockpicking is my favorite lockpicking in any game. I didn't even mention the reputation system. I think that adds a lot to the overall game, and I want to see more games implement something like that. Hopefully, they didn't patent it like WB Games' Nemesis System. They aren't even putting that to good use. Supposedly, the Wonder Woman game will have it if it ever comes out.
@@adnanasif9538 Also keep in mind outlaws is not really a stealth game, it’s a scoundrel game. You stay hidden until you mess up, attempt to fast talk your way out, fail, and proceed to try to shoot your way out while running terrified down a hallway with storm troopers running after you.
Honestly, Jedi Survivor disappointed me. I thought it went on for far too long, and it didn't feel like much of an improvement on Fallen Order to me. Outlaws though, I'm not even going to consider playing that.
I'm sorry dude, but it feels to me that you didn't play the game if you really think that way. Jedi Survivor made the combat system a whole new thing. The pacing of the story was perfectly done. Character development was beautiful. And it's by no means a long game at all. Game left many of us hyping for the third part.
I like Star Wars Outlaws. Good for what it is with the stealth. You feel vulnerable in Outlaws too. Meanwhile in Jedi Survivor with a lightsaber, you feel nearly unstoppable
Unstoppable? There are literally hundreds of youtube videos of guys smashing their controllers because of Survivor. What drugs are you on to play THAT good?
@@yozora1047 even on Grand Master difficulty, it's still easy if you know how to play. Once you get mind trick, then you can get enemies fighting for you. Use healing stims wisely. Analyze enemy attack patterns and don't get greedy. Jedi Survivor on Grand Master is easier than Eldin Ring.
@yozora1047 You want a hard game, try Jedi Outcast or Academy on Jedi Master difficulty. Your shields start at half strength. Nar Shaddaa is awful once the Snipers who vaporize you show up.
why do you want to compare them? first of all outlaws style isn't a starwars but an assassin creed game (had a god 5 minutes only in it (vader)) but other than that? it was shit, just like how Ubisoft is, if it wasn't due to crew 2 being 1 euro, their sale would have been less than 1000 in this month.
Prefacing with the fact that I haven’t played outlaws, but if Disney was smart, they’d reintroduce characters from legends like Kyle Katarn, like I thought was in Outlaws when I saw the trailer. Sure he wasn’t necessarily an “outlaw” but definitely an antihero to start his SW introduced. Maybe they don’t lean into his Jedi nature heavy-handedly, but they could allude to it. With Rogue One being canon, they could have him as a rebel freelancer from that battle, which wouldn’t “totally” ruin continuity. There’s just so much Disney is afraid to touch, which is ironic because they leaned really hard into TFA being so close to ANH, because they knew SW fans liked it.
Since playing on release I haven't run into a single issue and I am 60hrs into the game and have been doing all the side quests and jobs I can get my hands on. I am on the 4th planet and still have loads to do. The settings are fantastic to edit what QTEs and puzzles you want to do. Before launch the PS5 had plenty of issues and since the patches they are no longer there anymore. I get not liking Ubisoft however the studio Massive Entertainment did amazing with Avatar Frontiers of Pandora with the graphics, sound, lore and immersion. They have done it again here. This game is very much worth picking up.
